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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: Black Sheep on October 08, 2019, 05:18:37 PM

Title: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Black Sheep on October 08, 2019, 05:18:37 PM
Just a quick link to find FTTx availability for noobs, or anyone wishing to set up a community partnership, register an interest.


https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: kitz on October 08, 2019, 09:14:25 PM
Happy that they use the correct terms FTTC & FTTP rather than the "Superfast fibre" rubbish :)

[vimeo]https://player.vimeo.com/video/327855568[/vimeo]
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Black Sheep on October 09, 2019, 07:21:05 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Chunkers on October 09, 2019, 03:28:58 PM
It mainly for annoying people who live in the countryside :

"Unfortunately, your address isn't part of our current rollout programme."


Imagining OpenReach execs sitting around giggling from their fibre-connected city apartments .....  >:(
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Rich44 on October 12, 2019, 07:56:30 PM
We live in the countryside & rather surprisingly I found out last week that we're about to get FTTP, work starts on 21st October.

We have FTTC but it was unusable to we cancelled the VDSL & line, was 10Mbps down & 0.2Mbps up but it was just unusable & unreliable. Some neighbouring villages are getting it too altho not all I think it's BDUK related rather than commercial BT rollout.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Chrysalis on October 13, 2019, 09:18:24 AM
always find it funny BT keep finding attractive female engineers for their website :)

Checker seems broken here, I do the captcha, postcode, get a green tick to say I passed captcha, but no information popping up.

But to chunkers I am in a city and is no openreach plans, its not a city exclusivity thing.  They are rolling out in rural and urban areas, like rich44 confirmed.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: gt94sss2 on October 13, 2019, 12:59:20 PM
Checker seems broken here, I do the captcha, postcode, get a green tick to say I passed captcha, but no information popping up.

It’s poorly designed - after you do the captcha press on the magnifying glass and it asks for your specific address.

It’s definitely not a city thing - nothing showing for me in multiple areas of London or in Sheffield where I used to be.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: watcher on October 13, 2019, 01:34:09 PM
I live in a locality that a 7th October press release from Openreach described as one of the 13 remote rural villages and towns in the UK that will be used for "...trials to test a “range of new tools and techniques” for deploying their 1Gbps Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) broadband ISP network". Using the checker allowed me to sign up for news and updates about FTTP (presumably the trials), thanks for that. Let's see what happens...
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: j0hn on October 13, 2019, 03:09:13 PM
Checker seems broken here, I do the captcha, postcode, get a green tick to say I passed captcha, but no information popping up.

Very awkward search.

You need to enter postcode, tick I'm not a robot, then click the search icon next to the postcode you entered, then select individual address.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 13, 2019, 03:32:08 PM
FTTP...

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We don’t have plans to upgrade your area yet.

That does not surprise me, living in a very small village with long lines from sole cabinet.   But I see the same status for a previous address, which a vast and densely populated 1990s housing estate.  And same again, for Mum&Dad’s old address in Glasgow, walking distance (for the fit) from the city centre. :-\
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Ronski on October 13, 2019, 04:19:25 PM
In line with recent announcements we get following  ;D Which is good news as our estate is DIG.

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Faster and more reliable fibre is coming to your area soon.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Chrysalis on October 13, 2019, 06:13:30 PM
Very awkward search.

You need to enter postcode, tick I'm not a robot, then click the search icon next to the postcode you entered, then select individual address.

thanks works now, yeah isnt well designed.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 13, 2019, 06:48:04 PM
thanks works now, yeah isnt well designed.

It might feel awkward but actually seems logical to me.

The first step is to enter a postcode.    If you don’t know that you are wasting your time, and wasting the server’s time, so it is right to make it clear that it is a fundamental requirement, without which you are doomed.

You then want to select a pulldown address from the postcode, but doing so unimpeded might impose an overhead on the server.   It might also attract bots that just want to build lists of UK addresses for junk mail, so that is the correct point in the sequence to insert the captcha  - after postcode, but before the pulldown list.

Together with the correct technical terms FTTC/FTTP rather than nonsensical “super-fast” or “full fibre”, I get a warm feeling that this thing was designed by engineers.   :)

Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: j0hn on October 13, 2019, 11:21:59 PM
A more sensible design to me would be to enter postcode then hit search, then be prompted by the captcha.
Alternatively enter postcode, do captcha be presented with addresses.
They could even ask for a captcha before entering the postcode.

It's instinct to me to want to click the search button after entering the postcode and I was threw off by the sequence.

It feels very out of sync to type the postcode, be prevented from clicking the search icon next to it, doing the captcha below, then the search icon appears above.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Chrysalis on October 14, 2019, 02:22:20 AM
agreed, usually captcha is a last stage thing.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on October 15, 2019, 12:15:37 AM
It mainly for annoying people who live in the countryside :

"Unfortunately, your address isn't part of our current rollout programme."


Imagining OpenReach execs sitting around giggling from their fibre-connected city apartments .....  >:(

I don't think they update that site until an area is live TBH.

My cabinet appears to have a G.fast pod recently fitted, my exchange was announced as a Fibre First exchange, but it stills says "no plans for your address".
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Ronski on October 15, 2019, 06:21:48 AM
We're not live, but it does say it's coming for our address.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Weaver on October 15, 2019, 06:52:37 AM
God I wish it didn’t use that captcha thing. I really hate them and sometimes they seem to go round forever. Also I’m not American so sometimes I don’t understand USA speak questions.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 15, 2019, 11:41:42 AM
I played for quite a while with this site, and its various captchas.  The only one I got wrong was 'tick the boxes that contain traffic lights'.

One box showed only the lower half of some poles, with the button boxes for pedestrians.  Might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was an old fashioned 'pelican' signal with pedestrian lights in among the vehicle signals, rather than a modern 'puffin' with pedestrian lights at elbow level.

So I reasoned "that's a box with a button, not a traffic light", and I left that one unticked.  It seems that was the wrong answer I should have ticked it, but I still feel cheated. >:(

Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Bowdon on October 15, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
I just had to tick the box to say I wasnt a robot.

My area so far isn't in line to be upgraded.

I would still like to know what is the significance of the lines on the FTTP and FTTC boxes. I've noticed in the past other peoples pictures seem to have them at different lengths. Does it mean anything or is it just randomized to make people think its a progress bar?
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 15, 2019, 01:11:33 PM
I would still like to know what is the significance of the lines on the FTTP and FTTC boxes.

Well spotted, I’d missed that subtlety.   My guess it it’s just a visual cue to emphasise that FTTP is a lot faster than FTTC.

But I wholly approve of the fact that even the FTTP bar has some expansion room.   Might help to destroy the myth that 1Gbps is ‘future proof’ which, of course, it is not.   Once such speeds become widely available, and useful applications are rolled out, a need for even faster speeds will always emerge.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: j0hn on October 15, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
I don't think they update that site until an area is live TBH.

My cabinet appears to have a G.fast pod recently fitted, my exchange was announced as a Fibre First exchange, but it stills says "no plans for your address".

Have they actually released a list of exchanges in Sheffield getting Fibre First?

It updates well before it goes live.

In line with recent announcements we get following  ;D Which is good news as our estate is DIG.


His area was announced at the same time as Sheffield and work hasn't even begun.
Title: Re: FTTC/P checker
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on October 19, 2019, 06:36:01 PM
Have they actually released a list of exchanges in Sheffield getting Fibre First?

It updates well before it goes live.

His area was announced at the same time as Sheffield and work hasn't even begun.

Yes, its only Intake for now which AFAIK is the largest exchange in the city.