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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 02:31:23 PM

Title: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 02:31:23 PM
Just connected to new VDSL2 router. The DSLstats with select Zyxel VMG8924-B10A with CLI command prefix: xdslctl but bottom of DSLstats say Modem uptime: Not available (?) but the DSL uptime is working. Did I put the right settings?

I try HG612 Modem stats but it won't work as I put modem type: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A with Telnet shell: sh - any advice how to get these working?

Another one how can I enabled BMQ as it seem not pick it up? https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/d3e60413fe4ce714d2eff50230f56fe7210244e6

The stats below:

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xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 24783 Kbps, Downstream rate = 90723 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        8.2             15.7
Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5            2.2

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              130             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              8               16
S:              0.0518          0.3781
L:              21468           5374
D:              16              1
I:              139             127
N:              139             254
Q:              16              0
V:              14              0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               437178
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             133460608               18353390
RSCorr:         0               6
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            108077          0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             1296187         0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         0               0
rtx_c:          0               0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        79988           0
errFreeBits:    2118175         0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    267074909               0
Data Cells:     136700          0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            42              42
AS:             1736

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80614.82        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        231/233         290/290

Total time = 29 min 38 sec
FEC:            0               6
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            42              42
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 14 min 38 sec
FEC:            0               6
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            42              42
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 29 min 38 sec
FEC:            0               6
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            42              42
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 28 min 55 sec
FEC:            0               6
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH>

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xdslctl info --pbParams
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25065 Kbps, Downstream rate = 91019 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
VDSL Port Details               Upstream                Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:        25065 kbps              91019 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:          2.2 dBm                12.5 dBm
====================================================================================
  VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 U4 D1 D2 D3
  Line Attenuation(dB): 2.2 13.9 23.2 N/A N/A 7.2 17.3 28.8
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.2 13.2 22.3 N/A N/A 9.5 17.2 28.9
        SNR Margin(dB): 15.6 18.4 15.6 N/A N/A 8.3 8.3 8.3
         TX Power(dBm): -12.3 -29.2 2.0 N/A N/A 8.2 7.8 7.1
        kl0(dBx100):    650     700       N/A     N/A     N/A   550     664     730     
ZySH>

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Stats recorded 18 Jul 2019 14:41:26

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pvfbH043q.d26u
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  0 hour 39 min 36 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 18 Jul 2019 14:16:23)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  12.0 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 79999 19999
SNR margin (dB):        8.2 16.4
Power (dBm):            12.5 2.3
Interleave depth:        16 1
INP:                    48.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 0

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============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 3 hours: 0 minute
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.063 Mbps       79.998 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     19.999 Mbps       79.999 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:       15.8 dB            8.3 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:        2.2 dBm          12.5 dBm
           Receive Power:      -13.4 dBm           0.7 dBm
              Actual INP:        0.0 symbols      48.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       15.6 dB           13.2 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     24.623 Mbps       91.007 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.2    13.9    23.2     N/A     7.2    17.3    28.8   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.2    13.0    22.3     N/A     9.6    17.2    28.9   
        SNR Margin(dB): 16.0    15.5    15.9     N/A     8.3     8.3     8.3   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-12.3   -29.2     2.0     N/A     8.2     7.8     7.1   
============================================================================

            VDSL Counters

           Downstream        Upstream
Since Link time = 31 sec
FEC: 652 1171
CRC: 0 5
ES: 0 5
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 1 min 14 sec
FEC: 0 167
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 116 385
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: N/A
HostInitRetr: N/A
FastRetr: N/A
FailedRetr: N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 1 min 14 sec
FEC: 652 1171
CRC: 0 5
ES: 0 5
SES: 0 0
UAS: 42 42
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Total time = 3 hours 1 min 14 sec
FEC: 652 1171
CRC: 0 5
ES: 0 5
SES: 0 0
UAS: 42 42
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
============================================================================
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: roseway on July 18, 2019, 03:02:24 PM
The modem uptime is obtained from the command cat /proc/uptime . If DSLstats reports it as not available, it means that the command is not recognised by the modem, or doesn't return a sensible result.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on July 18, 2019, 03:24:09 PM
The Zyxel XMG3927-B50A seemingly is not able to work with HG612 Modem Stats. When you login to the router via telnet or SSH, it is already in Zyxel's own shell; therefore, "sh" does nothing. I do not know the scope of commands needed by HG612 Modem Stats, but Zyxel's shell has limited commands available and I do not know a way to access any utilities such as "cat".

To address the BQM for IPv4, you must enable PING on WAN under remote management at http://192.168.1.1/RemoteManagement (http://192.168.1.1/RemoteManagement) (or whichever IP addres you have it configured to).
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: j0hn on July 18, 2019, 04:03:22 PM
what were the Billion stats prior to switching?

Interested in the difference in SNRM/attainable to see how the newer chipset performs on VDSL2.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 04:04:36 PM
That my billion stats before switch over to this new router below
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 04:07:43 PM
@ re0

Thanks I have now enabled PING on WAN under remote management let's hope it working now

Disappointed to hear that HG612 Modem Stats will not work (how odd) maybe someone will look into this and try to get fix next version.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
what were the Billion stats prior to switching?

Interested in the difference in SNRM/attainable to see how the newer chipset performs on VDSL2.

I did notice that.

Billion SNR 8.5dB / 14.7dB 91889Kbps / 25289Kbps
Zyxel SNR 8.3dB / 16.5dB 90758Kbps / 23697Kbps

It's appear it reduced than Billion. But the power (dBmV) went from 0.6 (billion) to 2.1 (zyxel) on the upstream but downstream about the same at 12.5 but Line attenuation (dB) went up from 11.8 to 12.0 on the zyxel.

With 21 days on Billions upstream got a total of 1838 errored seconds and 3001 CRC errors but NONE on the downstream before switch over to new router, let see how new Zyxel will do in the next 21 days to compared Billions.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 05:31:09 PM
Pretty good router. The wifi are quite strong but I notice there is a bug on untick untick Keep 2.4G and 5G the same on the wireless setting but I manage to force to untick by F5 refresh the page and untick that box quickly before it went back to greyed out. :)

Wireless status:

WLAN 216 Mbps WLAN 1733 Mbps (have changed that now to this one: WLAN 450 Mbps WLAN 1733 Mbps)

Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on July 18, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
Nice router. Good old AAISP  :clap:
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on July 18, 2019, 06:06:49 PM
@max

RE the Wi-Fi "bug", IIRC you have to disable MESH in the Wi-Fi settings before you should be able to untick that setting. With a bit of browser magic, it's possible to bypass... but there is actually a way.

I hope you'll find the Wi-Fi performance more than satisfactory, especially compared to the 8800NL.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: ejs on July 18, 2019, 07:02:44 PM
So you've decided to attempt to use 40MHz of the 2.4GHz spectrum. Why? It won't necessarily be any faster in a crowded environment.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 07:02:52 PM
re0

Thanks for this. I have finally got everything working correctly now after powered down 30 minutes twice today because I get rid of China ugly plug and replaced with Genuine UK Plug (Netgear powerswitch)

New stats below as of now and leave it leave it alone for next 4 weeks to see how it go.

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xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 27286 Kbps, Downstream rate = 90770 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        8.2             14.8
Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.4            2.1

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              130             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              8               16
S:              0.0518          0.3781
L:              21468           5374
D:              16              1
I:              139             127
N:              139             254
Q:              16              0
V:              14              0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               469924
OHFErr:         0               1
RS:             143460544               19728086
RSCorr:         40              3
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            116171          0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             1393307         0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         0               0
rtx_c:          0               0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        80005           0
errFreeBits:    2276795         0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    287074781               0
Data Cells:     5794581         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
AS:             1866

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80614.82        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        243/246         328/328

Total time = 31 min 46 sec
FEC:            40              3
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 1 min 46 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            0               2
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 31 min 46 sec
FEC:            40              3
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 31 min 5 sec
FEC:            40              3
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH>
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 07:05:24 PM
So you've decided to attempt to use 40MHz of the 2.4GHz spectrum. Why? It won't necessarily be any faster in a crowded environment.

I left it with auto 20/40MHz on it
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 07:07:54 PM
Nice router. Good old AAISP  :clap:

Oh yeah very kind of them. As it was last one in stock! :)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 18, 2019, 09:44:22 PM
Latest graphs below for new router so far

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Bitswap:        1559/1583               2003/2003

Total time = 3 hours 13 min 26 sec
FEC:            196             22
CRC:            0               8
ES:             0               8
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 13 min 26 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            1               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 13 min 26 sec
FEC:            196             22
CRC:            0               8
ES:             0               8
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 3 hours 12 min 45 sec
FEC:            196             22
CRC:            0               8
ES:             0               8
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH>
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on July 18, 2019, 11:46:31 PM
If that error rate remains consistent like that, it should be better than with the Billion. Only time will tell, but here's hoping :fingers: (though, not like it was bad before anyway).
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: tubaman on July 19, 2019, 07:45:22 AM
..... I get rid of China ugly plug and replaced with Genuine UK Plug (Netgear powerswitch)

I suspect you'll find the Netgear plug was made in China too. It it were me I'd be using the supplied adaptor on a new and expensive bit of kit like this.
 :)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 26, 2019, 11:55:30 AM
Just been having a short break away back now. My mind are lots ease better.

Here is my latest stats for over 7 days from this new Zyxel so far very good. I am now happy and stay with FTTC for a long while because it one of the best connection say Kitz last week.

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xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 26829 Kbps, Downstream rate = 92578 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        8.5             14.9
Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.4            2.3

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              130             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              8               16
S:              0.0518          0.3781
L:              21468           5374
D:              16              1
I:              139             127
N:              139             254
Q:              16              0
V:              14              0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               168124267
OHFErr:         0               719
RS:             4082464960              2763131136
RSCorr:         13048           20197
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            41541353                0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             498495502               0
RSCorr:         47              0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         102             0
rtx_c:          102             0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        79988           0
errFreeBits:    814153500               0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    3870113021              0
Data Cells:     863703474               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               451
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
AS:             667244

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80614.82        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        28882/29224             48855/48855

Total time = 7 days 17 hours 21 min 24 sec
FEC:            13048           20197
CRC:            0               719
ES:             0               451
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 6 min 24 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            14              2
CRC:            0               2
ES:             0               2
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 17 hours 21 min 24 sec
FEC:            454             259
CRC:            0               64
ES:             0               53
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            633             2383
CRC:            0               230
ES:             0               84
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 7 days 17 hours 20 min 43 sec
FEC:            13048           20197
CRC:            0               719
ES:             0               451
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH>
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on July 26, 2019, 05:35:52 PM
This hardware seems absolutely awesome:

Total time = 7 days 17 hours 21 min 24 sec
FEC:            13048           20197
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: RealAleMadrid on July 26, 2019, 07:17:13 PM
I don't think it's the hardware, even a rubbish modem would work perfectly well on the Op's very short line. :)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on July 26, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
Maybe. Attn(dB):  12.0 seems average to me.
My cct is 17.0 and 420m...
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: j0hn on July 27, 2019, 01:39:07 AM
This hardware seems absolutely awesome:

Total time = 7 days 17 hours 21 min 24 sec
FEC:            13048           20197

His Billion had 77,000 FEC in 21 days uptime in the screenshot above.
Roughly half the amount of FEC's.

Not that simple to compare though as he may have had a very noisy day in that 21 days or different levels of FEC applied to each modem.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: tubaman on July 27, 2019, 08:57:38 AM
So is my line running at about 500,000 FECs per hour not quite to the same standard?  :lol:
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on July 27, 2019, 11:01:46 AM
His Billion had 77,000 FEC in 21 days uptime in the screenshot above.
Roughly half the amount of FEC's.

Not that simple to compare though as he may have had a very noisy day in that 21 days or different levels of FEC applied to each modem.

Will post screenshot once it has reach 21 days to compared Billion v Zyxel.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 08, 2019, 08:56:04 PM
Here is completed 21 days Billion v Zyxel

Code: [Select]
Billion 21 days: (downstream) (upstream)
SES: 0 0
ES: 0 1838
Bitswap: 24215 30081
CRC: 0 3001
HEC: 0 0
FEC: 77869 80531

Zyxel 21 days: (downstream) (upstream)
SES: 0 0
ES: 0 1443
Bitswap: 29650 50152
CRC: 0 2596
HEC: 0 0
FEC: 49118      49774

Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on August 08, 2019, 10:01:39 PM
I think I am going to order one of those too  ;D
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 09, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I think I am going to order one of those too  ;D

It's a very good Zyxel router (great wireless too) much better than Billion. The broadcom chipset are excellent too for FTTC (those who are on the Huawei cabinet) it also support G.fast too (those who live with a stone throw by the PCP cabinet)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on August 09, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
I can vouch for this device. At least on G.fast, it has been incredibly stable; recently had a month of uninterrupted connection, until the power went out.

Sadly, I don't have a baseline to compare devices since so few G.fast devices floating around that:
Certainly think it's worth it's cost if you have G.fast, or intend to upgrade to G.fast - or apparently even if you have VDSL.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: johnson on August 09, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Certainly think it's worth it's cost if you have G.fast, or intend to upgrade to G.fast - or apparently even if you have VDSL.

I can agree with the having G.fast or intending to upgrade to it, but that expensive a unit just for VDSL?

Had a look see at the firmware notes and its a similar broadcom chipset to the VDSL2 Zyxels, same broadcom DSL kernel driver version as the VMG3925 - d26u. Uses a different phy blob, A2pvfbH043q vs A2pv6F039x6 in the 3925, but thats to be expected considering it can do G.fast I guess. Still on the same ancient 3.4.11 kernel.

Would be nice to see some pics of its insides, but a little googling hasnt revealed any to me.

Would also be nice to see FTTC comparisons with a VMG1312 or 8x24 rather than a billion, I have a suspicion they will be very similar.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: j0hn on August 09, 2019, 07:16:39 PM
I can agree with the having G.fast or intending to upgrade to it, but that expensive a unit just for VDSL?

Agreed.
Unless you're intending to get G.Fast I think it's overkill and expensive.
I wouldn't expect a higher sync from it on VDSL2 either.

My Zyxel VMG1312-B10A with its BCM63168 syncs higher than 2 different  units with BCM63138 chipsets that I've tried.
A Technicolor DGA4130 with the non G.Fast BCM63138 chipset and the Asus DSL-AC88U with G.Fast support.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 19, 2019, 11:59:46 AM
Here is Zyxel full stats (1 month):

Code: [Select]
xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 26809 Kbps, Downstream rate = 90797 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        8.3             14.7
Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.4            2.1

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              130             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              8               16
S:              0.0518          0.3781
L:              21468           5374
D:              16              1
I:              139             127
N:              139             254
Q:              16              0
V:              14              0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               690655602
OHFErr:         0               3729
RS:             398984848               3224911251
RSCorr:         105159          82455
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            170652202               0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             2047825681              0
RSCorr:         204             0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         511             0
rtx_c:          511             0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         2               0
minEFTR:        80021           0
errFreeBits:    3344548827              0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    798107005               0
Data Cells:     3966492099              0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               2262
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
AS:             2741041

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80614.82        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        29722/30066             51386/51386

Total time = 31 days 17 hours 24 min 41 sec
FEC:            105159          82455
CRC:            0               3729
ES:             0               2262
SES:            0               0
UAS:            40              40
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 9 min 41 sec
FEC:            0               1
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            5               0
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 17 hours 24 min 41 sec
FEC:            1219            3021
CRC:            0               69
ES:             0               59
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            4921            4011
CRC:            0               107
ES:             0               90
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 31 days 17 hours 23 min 59 sec
FEC:            105159          82455
CRC:            0               3729
ES:             0               2262
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH>
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on August 19, 2019, 01:23:34 PM
That is a very good result. Very low error rates considering the amount of thunderstorms recently.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 19, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Mind you I didn't have any thunderstorms in Telford all this summer, none at all. As it have missed out.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: Sniper on August 19, 2019, 06:47:16 PM
 I switched over from Ultra Hub while back (sometime in June), no issues.

Code: [Select]
ZySH> xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 200000
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 100323 Kbps, Downstream rate = 327755 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 49972 Kbps, Downstream rate = 327755 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.fast Annex A
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 2.9 16.7
Attn(dB): 30.1 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 0.0 3.6

G.fast framing
Bearer 0
R: 8 10
N: 250 99
Q: 7 11

L: 9552 5512
Lrmc: 0 0
Ldoi: 0 5440
Rrmc: 250 99
Drmc: 13 4

Mf: 36 36
M(ds/us): 27 8

MNDSNOI: 2 2
ackWindowShift: 10 3
Ldr: 8622 4936
etru: 327394 49917
ETRminEoc: 11917 0

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 571732196 28967690
OHFErr: 14 8
RS: 877371319 1003272143
RSCorr: 2743169 69026
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 21267 4245
rtx_c: 14014 0
rtx_uc: 399 185

G.fast Counters
minEFTR: 328681 50972
errFreeBits: 286570241 2667596294

NOI
BSW: 711152/711152 576/576
SRA: 14/14 99/99
FRA: 0/0 2/2
RPA: 0/0 26/26
TIGA: 299/299 0/0
DOI
BSW: 0/0 0/0
SRA: 0/0 0/0
FRA: 0/0 0/0
RPA: 0/0 0/0
TIGA: 0/0 0/0

eocBytes: 3222311491 3493803060
eocPkts: 199849330 50809857
eocMsgs: 199849330 50809857

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 859585647 458111165
Data Cells: 771452035 435679221
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

LORS: 0 0
LOSS: 0 0
ES: 38 31
SES: 0 0
UAS: 763 762
AS: 3430295

Bearer 0
INP: 550.00 535.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 305.06
OR: 818.74 272.19
AgR: 36841.43 19743.80

Total time = 90 days 2 hours 19 min 58 sec
FEC: 6223370 213610
CRC: 53 34
ES: 38 31
SES: 0 0
UAS: 763 762
LOS: 1 0
LOF: 1 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 1
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 1
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 1
Latest 15 minutes time = 4 min 58 sec
FEC: 405 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 1139 21
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: N/A
HostInitRetr: N/A
FastRetr: N/A
FailedRetr: N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 2 hours 19 min 58 sec
FEC: 10416 21
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 77778 1101
CRC: 1 0
ES: 1 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 39 days 16 hours 51 min 35 sec
FEC: 2743169 69026
CRC: 14 8
ES: 12 8
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
HostInitRetr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on August 19, 2019, 06:57:41 PM
I switched over from Ultra Hub while back (sometime in June), no issues.
That's some insane upstream attainable! Basically 33 Mbps more than mine:
Code: [Select]
xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    200000
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 67255 Kbps, Downstream rate = 347559 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 50016 Kbps, Downstream rate = 335116 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   G.fast Annex A
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        4.5             8.6
Attn(dB):        31.5            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        0.0             4.0
I do actually have quite a bit of intereference on my upstream, which has been noticed through running DSLstats; SNRM spikes and whatnot. Darn aluminium!
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on November 12, 2019, 05:12:27 AM
Uptime on modem as of now

Bitswap:        706/737         1379/1379

Total time = 78 days 2 min 8 sec
FEC:            2204329         37732834
CRC:            22              6877
ES:             13              3925
SES:            10              75
UAS:            84              74
LOS:            1               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           1
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0

Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on November 12, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
Does anyone know if you can set an MTU of 1500 in the GUI?

You can test with:
ping -c4 -M do -s 1472 1.1.1.1 (Linux)
ping -f -l 1472 1.1.1.1 (Windows)



Hopefully the output would be like this:
PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) 1472(1500) bytes of data.
1480 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=17.1 ms
1480 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=17.6 ms
1480 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=17.3 ms
1480 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=17.3 ms
--- 1.1.1.1 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 17.094/17.311/17.577/0.173 ms
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 12, 2019, 08:59:09 PM
You absolutely can. I have mine set to 1500 on Zen.

I'm on mobile at the moment and had to VNC to a Linux machine on the network to run the command. Can confirm that works and outputs like your example.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on November 12, 2019, 09:20:02 PM
Thanks for the info re0  ;)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 13, 2019, 03:19:21 AM
I know it is a bit late, but I was going to run the command on my PC and paste the output here. I forgot, but here it is anyway:
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Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 1472 bytes of data:
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=1472 time=17ms TTL=60
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=1472 time=16ms TTL=60
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=1472 time=17ms TTL=60
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=1472 time=17ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for 1.1.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 16ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 16ms
Not like it says anything that you wouldn't have known anyway since I already confirmed. :D

Is this on your Christmas wishlist for Santa?
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on November 13, 2019, 09:50:13 AM
Yeah, just ordered one  :)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: Jon21 on November 14, 2019, 02:37:20 PM
Yeah, just ordered one  :)

Just wondering where you ordered one from? A&A? Seem to be impossible to find in the UK, not that I really need one :)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on November 14, 2019, 03:16:52 PM
Yeah, it arrived this morning. Very quick service from A&A!

Code: [Select]
Stats recorded 15 Nov 2019 08:16:29

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pvfbH043q.d26u
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  7 hours 31 min 32 sec
Resyncs:                1 (since 14 Nov 2019 20:46:28)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  16.4 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 79965 19999
SNR margin (dB):        3.2 15.4
Power (dBm):            13.4 7.0
Interleave depth:        8 1
INP:                    53.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0198 0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                1.20 7.08
A

xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 28699 Kbps, Downstream rate = 82208 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79965 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        3.2             15.4
Attn(dB):        16.4            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        13.4            7.0

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              235             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              10              16
S:              0.0939          0.3781
L:              20953           5374
D:              8               1
I:              246             127
N:              246             254
Q:              8               0
V:              1               0
RxQueue:                90              0
TxQueue:                18              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         18              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               6826173
OHFErr:         0               56
RS:             1149245968              286572564
RSCorr:         227235          4
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            1686661         0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             20239191                0
RSCorr:         923             0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         13540           0
rtx_c:          13523           0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        79969           0
errFreeBits:    90515726                0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    4165777526              0
Data Cells:     6030425         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             10              120
SES:            10              0
UAS:            129             119
AS:             27092

                        Bearer 0
INP:            53.00           0.00
INPRein:        1.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80092.14        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        5149/5307               5/5

Total time = 21 hours 10 min 15 sec
FEC:            481936          8
CRC:            0               129
ES:             10              120
SES:            10              0
UAS:            129             119
LOS:            1               0
LOF:            5               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           2
HostInitRetr:   1
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 15 sec
FEC:            2062            0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            4575            1
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FastRetr:       N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
FailedFastRetr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 21 hours 10 min 15 sec
FEC:            481936          8
CRC:            0               129
ES:             10              120
SES:            10              0
UAS:            129             119
LOS:            1               0
LOF:            5               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           2
HostInitRetr:   1
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Since Link time = 7 hours 31 min 31 sec
FEC:            227235          4
CRC:            0               56
ES:             0               52
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FastRetr:       0
FailedRetr:     0
FailedFastRetr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
ZySH> 

MTU 1500 works fine in routing mode (not in bridged mode though A&A say, but I will test that later):

Code: [Select]
tracepath bottomless.aa.net.uk
 1?: [LOCALHOST]                      pmtu 1500
 1:  router                                                0.964ms
 1:  router                                                0.752ms
 2:  bottomless.aa.net.uk                                 17.593ms reached
     Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 2 back 2
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 15, 2019, 12:41:27 AM
It's time to update that sig then.  :cool:

I've seen a few retailers that sell in the UK list the device, but I don't have a list off the top of my head. Last I noticed, it wasn't in stock.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: hushcoden on November 15, 2019, 06:35:18 PM
It would be nice if someone would be able to post a list of places (possibly in the UK) where to buy this modem from...

I checked on https://www.aa.net.uk/broadband/buy-accessories/ and it's not listed...
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 15, 2019, 07:18:50 PM
RetailerPrice (inc. VAT)LinkAvailability (as of 15/11/2019)Notes
A&A~150(?) deliveredSee notesSee notesEmail sales team for stock and pricing. (https://www.aa.net.uk/etc/contact/)
LambdaTek146.38 deliveredLink (https://www.lambda-tek.com/Zyxel-XMG3927-B50A-EU01V1F~sh/B43527536)0It is not clear whether this item comes from Europe, so it may or may not come with a UK plug.
MoreComputers (see notes)168.24 deliveredSee notesSee notesThe listing no longer exists, but perhaps it will return when in stock. Retailer is ZyXEL reseller.

Those are the only retailers I am aware of that actually sell the item through their UK sites. It is a shame to see MoreComputers no longer has the listing up. The best bet for anyone looking for one of these is to drop A&A sales an email. Other than that, you could contact authorised resellers to see when/if they will stock this or just wait until they maybe become more widely available.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: underzone on November 15, 2019, 09:40:43 PM
hushcoden, here bud:
https://support.aa.net.uk/Category:AA_Routers

You need to call them. You can't order it online yet...

--------------

PS. I tested bridge mode with the current latest firmware (5.13 ABMT.0 C0) - and MTU 1500, aka baby jumbo frames are not supported  :no:
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 16, 2019, 02:39:40 AM
PS. I tested bridge mode with the current latest firmware (5.13 ABMT.0 C0) - and MTU 1500, aka baby jumbo frames are not supported  :no:

I thought A&A prepared you for that inevitable disappointment? :P
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: hushcoden on November 18, 2019, 09:14:28 AM
Thank you all for the info... I've just received a reply (email) from the A&A sales team saying "Sorry this is not a router we supply"  :(

Never mind, not in rush to get one of those, so will wait a bit longer...
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on November 18, 2019, 09:22:38 AM
That's very strange. Cos I brought my router from A&A. I been chat to them just five minutes ago, yes indeed, they do have it in stock. Maybe u spoken to the wrong saleperson. (ah, don't bother email them, give them a call on 03333 400222)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on November 18, 2019, 11:25:36 AM
Seems a bit strange. Probably the sales person who responded isn't aware of that. I checked my previous emails and it looks like I emailed support instead of sales, but I would have thought both would have had known of its existence.

As max says, give them a call. You already tried the email avenue without success.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on January 10, 2020, 09:07:25 AM
Seems to be out of stock throughout Europe at the moment.
A few EU dealers are showing estimated stock arrival in 2 weeks (22 - 25 Jan).
Has anyone got this working with the BT (Openreach) Ultrafast service?
I'm looking to replace my BT HH6XA G.Fast router as it's Wi-Fi is rubbish!
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: dorzb on January 10, 2020, 09:28:40 AM
Seems to be out of stock throughout Europe at the moment.
A few EU dealers are showing estimated stock arrival in 2 weeks (22 - 25 Jan).
Has anyone got this working with the BT (Openreach) Ultrafast service?
I'm looking to replace my BT HH6XA G.Fast router as it's Wi-Fi is rubbish!

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Zyxel-XMG3927-B50A-Wireless-AC-N-G-FAST-VDSL2-Combo-Gigabit-Gate_1328696.html

They have it in stock according to their website and they can ship to the UK. Just found it on Google, but I know nothing about this website so you'd better dig more about it.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: dorzb on January 10, 2020, 09:35:36 AM
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Zyxel-XMG3927-B50A-Wireless-AC-N-G-FAST-VDSL2-Combo-Gigabit-Gate_1328696.html

They have it in stock according to their website and they can ship to the UK. Just found it on Google, but I know nothing about this website so you'd better dig more about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcRetailers/comments/544777/review_mindfactoryde_germany_online_retailer/
It seems that their "In stock" status is not trustworthy
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on January 10, 2020, 09:57:23 AM
U can request order it via pulse8 only if u order G.fast product with them as they do selling G.fast 160/30 and 220/50 here: https://pulse8broadband.co.uk/docs/Pulse8-Broadband-and-Line-Rental-Charges.pdf

Zyxel XMG3927-B50A AC 2400Mbps G.fast Router 186.00 inc. Openreach Approved Dual BandAC2400 ADSL2/VDSL2 Modem / Router with built in 4 x 1000Mbps Network Switch + Wan(Wireless IAD MU-MIMO Multi Pro 4x4 802.11ac Router with G.fast VDSL2 Modem + dedicated WAN port / VoIP / USB Sharing / 3G Backup)

Pulse 8 G.fast 160/30 48 a month inc line only (1 month contract) via request form only
Pulse 8 G.fast 220/50 57 a month inc line only (1 month contract) via request form only

Updates: Mark from pulse8 say there is no G.fast 330/50 product (only 160/30 and 220/50 for G.fast for their selling products)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on January 10, 2020, 11:47:29 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PcRetailers/comments/544777/review_mindfactoryde_germany_online_retailer/
It seems that their "In stock" status is not trustworthy
According to their shipping page: 'Shipping to consumers outside of Germany is not available'
Looks like it's trade account holders only if outside Germany
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on January 10, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
Seems to be out of stock throughout Europe at the moment.
A few EU dealers are showing estimated stock arrival in 2 weeks (22 - 25 Jan).
Has anyone got this working with the BT (Openreach) Ultrafast service?
I'm looking to replace my BT HH6XA G.Fast router as it's Wi-Fi is rubbish!

I'd throw the money at an Access Point instead personally if its only the WiFi that is bothering you.  I have no regrets getting the Ubiquiti nanoHD, even connecting to WiFi seems to be faster than any other device I've used.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on January 10, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
The other problem is, just like the original HH6, my HH6XA router resets itself every 2 weeks without fail.
Unfortunately my BT TV (HUMAX 4K YouView) box doesn't always reconnect when this happens, causing lost timer recordings if I don't spot it.
Anyway, I've found a company in Germany (with an English language website!) who have stock & ship to the UK via FedEx (actually delivered by TNT in UK).
I've placed an order, delivery 3 - 5 days, cost with tax & shipping 176.87 (they offer to bill in but at a poor exchange rate), paid via PayPal in , works out at 150.95 on my no fee visa card.
(A note about PayPal - if you've a no-fee credit card you can set it up on paypal to pay in the currency of the transaction, that way you don't pay in @ paypal's rubbish exchange rate!)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on January 15, 2020, 03:59:23 PM
Ok, so the router arrived on time BUT the auto setup wizard didn't detect my BT G.Fast line, I guess the current firmware hasn't got a BT profile in it.
So a bit of manual tweaking was needed, when it couldn't connect to the internet it offered manual configuration.
The wizard was trying to use IPoE, so I changed it to PPPoE, then added the username: bthomehub@btinternet.com - password: bt
It now found the G.Fast line but it still wouldn't log into the BT server, at this point I skipped to the next setting, completed the wizard & exited.
Then in the main menu I went to Network Settings/Broadband, here I had to edit the VDSL settings:
VLAN was set to off, so I turned it on & entered 101 under the 802.1q setting (I didn't touch the 802.1p setting).
Clicked APPLY & after a short wait it logged in, then it worked fine.
I was pleasantly surprised to find the PSU comes with interchangeable plug-tops, & both UK & EU plug-tops were supplied.
============================================================================
    xDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   G.fast Annex A
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 1 hour: 44 minutes
============================================================================
       xDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     50.307 Mbps      330.759 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     50.011 Mbps      330.052 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        9.1 dB           12.3 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      - 1.6 dBm           0.0 dBm
           Receive Power:        4.7 dBm           3.0 dBm
              Actual INP:      607.0 symbols     550.0 symbols
Attainable Net Data Rate:     69.347 Mbps      490.381 Mbps
============================================================================
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on July 20, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
Just a word of warning for BT customers, this unit doesn't support BT TV!
Even though it says it supports multicast it doesn't work with the BT subscription services.
My old VMG8924 suffered from the same problem, but the solution was to turn on concurrent WAN for the port the box was plugged to.
Unfortunately Zyxel, for some unfathomable reason, have decided not to provide the concurrent WAN option on this model.
I have informed Zyxel of the problem & they've passed it on to Taiwan, hopefully a new firmware will appear with a fix (but don't hold your breath!)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on March 08, 2021, 02:56:17 PM
Sorry for dragging up an old thread, but as I have just won one of these on Ebay, has anyone requested the source code for the XMG3927-B50A: https://www.zyxel.com/form/gpl_oss_software_notice.shtml
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on March 09, 2021, 11:24:46 AM
Arrived,

made request for sourcecode, it's in a KCOM box  :lol:
model number XMG3927-B50A-GB01V1F

Anyone want an unboxing or a dismantling, as it cost me 30

Well this seems a rabbit hole, there's a remote code execution vulnerability for a firmware version 5 revisions higher than what is on the zyxel ftp: https://www.zyxel.com/support/Zyxel-security-advisory-for-remote-code-execution-and-denial-of-service-vulnerabilities-of-CPE.shtml

Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: re0 on March 15, 2021, 09:29:11 PM
I have seen a few KCOM branded ones on eBay recently around the 30 mark. I was going to pick one up to help diagnose a fault but I just used the Openreach modem instead. Seems a good bargain anyway, even more so if you need a G.fast modem.

I have skimmed your other thread about the vulnerability and I think it is disappointing that the FTP server has not been updated with the latest firmware since I have been checking that every now and again for months, as that's where I would expect it to be. I have requested the firmware so hopefully I will get that very soon. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: SE on June 03, 2021, 06:20:26 PM
Hi
Whats the chipset in this
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on June 03, 2021, 06:32:29 PM
Hi
Whats the chipset in this

Code: [Select]
BusyBox v1.20.1 (2018-10-12 12:32:49 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor       : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
processor       : 0
BogoMIPS        : 398.13

processor       : 1
BogoMIPS        : 398.13

Features        : swp half thumb fastmult edsp tls
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant     : 0x4
CPU part        : 0xc09
CPU revision    : 1

Hardware        : BCM963138
Revision        : 0000
Serial          : 0000000000000000
#

It's a BCM963138 according to busybox
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: j0hn on June 04, 2021, 12:33:13 PM
Hi
Whats the chipset in this

BCM63138/BCM963138 (https://www.broadcom.com/products/broadband/xdsl/bcm63138)
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on August 09, 2021, 11:28:40 AM
Finally: ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/XMG3927-B50A/firmware/ now has firmware v5.17 available
Note: Microsoft Edge doesn't support ftp sites so use IE11 or another browser to access
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on August 09, 2021, 02:16:44 PM
Finally: ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/XMG3927-B50A/firmware/ now has firmware v5.17 available
Note: Microsoft Edge doesn't support ftp sites so use IE11 or another browser to access

Most browsers have dropped ftp, its really annoying.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 09, 2021, 02:24:51 PM
The latest firmware directly from Zyxel are V517ABMT5C0 Here is the latest firmware:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9i4m1bh5buxnuhc/V517ABMT5C0.zip?dl=1

Supported Platforms:
Zyxel XMG8825
B50A
Zyxel XMG3927
B50A
Zyxel VMG3927
B50A
Zyxel VMG3927
B60A
Zyxel VMG8825
B50A
Zyxel
VMG8825 B60A
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on August 09, 2021, 03:12:53 PM
@adslmax thank you,

There's a newer version for the vmg8825: VMG8825-V517ABNY6C0.zip found here: https://eyenetworks.no/fw/
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 09, 2021, 03:47:49 PM
@adslmax thank you,

There's a newer version for the vmg8825: VMG8825-V517ABNY6C0.zip found here: https://eyenetworks.no/fw/

Thanks but Zyzel has advised me not to use this version VMG8825-V517ABNY6C0.zip for my router Zyxel XMG3927-B50A as the latest firmware with stable (not beta) are V517ABMT5C0

The file u metion are for this router below:
Supported Platforms:
ZYXEL VMG
8825 B5 0B VMG 8825 B60B VMG 8825 B 5 0C
VMG 8825 B60C / AM3100 B0
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on August 09, 2021, 07:20:11 PM
Oh okay, C0 releases are general release aka stable, betas end with the character b1, b2, b3 etc.
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on August 18, 2021, 10:47:19 AM
Looks like Zyxel may have tweaked the modem code slightly for G.Fast in the new firmware.
On my line everything on the stats is pretty much identical except ACTUAL INP.
The downstream remains the same (at 640 symbols) but upstream goes from 607 symbols with V5.13 to 676 symbols with V5.17
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: meritez on August 18, 2021, 12:54:25 PM
Looks like Zyxel may have tweaked the modem code slightly for G.Fast in the new firmware.
On my line everything on the stats is pretty much identical except ACTUAL INP.
The downstream remains the same (at 640 symbols) but upstream goes from 607 symbols with V5.13 to 676 symbols with V5.17

Tweaked for better or worse?
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: smallal on August 18, 2021, 01:39:07 PM
Tweaked for better or worse?
No idea, my line has always been stable & I get full capped speed, perhaps someone who doesn't get the max. speed has noticed a difference?
Title: Re: Zyxel XMG3927-B50A
Post by: adslmax on August 18, 2021, 05:41:33 PM
Mine is v5.17 and here is my sync rate below:

============================================================================
    xDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   G.fast Annex A
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   17 days: 2 hours: 3 minutes
============================================================================
       xDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     33.185 Mbps      229.567 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     33.041 Mbps      229.119 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        2.7 dB            2.9 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:        4.0 dBm           0.0 dBm
           Receive Power:        4.7 dBm           3.0 dBm
              Actual INP:      540.0 symbols     550.0 symbols
Attainable Net Data Rate:     33.297 Mbps      229.273 Mbps
============================================================================