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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: Mark07 on July 20, 2018, 03:58:20 PM
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Hi all,
Had a quick browse and the general consensus is that OR don't tend to do this, however it looks like my local ECI cab is being replaced with a Huawei!
Can't imagine I'll see much benefit, the new cab is about 2 metres closer to me so I might see an extra half a meg or so :D
Anyone know if this is something OR are doing nationally? I originally thought this was an expansion but my local cab has never shown full (as far as I'm aware) so I'm included to think this replacing the current Huawei.
Planning PDF below, any thoughts / comments? :)
https://publicaccess.northumberland.gov.uk/online-applications/files/4EA803AFE214019B44ACB08143B29952/pdf/18_02501_MISC-CORRESPONDENCE_AND_ASSOCIATED_DOCUMENTS-1138127.pdf
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I've seen dozens of ECI cabinets that aren't at capacity being added to with a Huawei cabinet.
I have never once seen 1 replacing the other.
the link doesn't work
edit: https://publicaccess.northumberland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=PBR8GWQS0CS00&activeTab=summary
looks like they are adding new DSLAM's to PCP's 2,4 & 9
These will be in addition to any existing DSLAM's.
No existing ECI DSLAM's are being removed.
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AH, I didn't realise that was a session based link, yeah there's 3, looks like it is for capacity then!
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How do you know yours has never been full? If checking via your phone number and you have FTTC then it will always show as available, you need to use a phone number you know that doesn't have FTTC or the full address checker, only then will it show waiting list if there's no capacity.
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Did anyone notice this in the link?
Notice of intention to install a Broadbank equipment cabinet
I couldn't the hole for the cash card! >:D
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Did anyone notice this in the link?
Yes. :)
And does this lonely "find" belong to you? Apparently it was last seen holding hands with an abbreviated "not" and a definite article! :D
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it could be a fatal fault has developed and they may have no ECI stock so its been replaced with a hauwei, I would be surprised if they were replacing it for other reasons.
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I just noticed that spelling mistake :D I've seen a lot in planning apaps from BT, not sure what monkey they've got submitting them :P
Yes I check every week or so using the full address just to see if anything new pops up / changes, it's possible I missed it being full of course
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I just noticed that spelling mistake :D I've seen a lot in planning apaps from BT, not sure what monkey they've got submitting them :P
Yes I check every week or so using the full address just to see if anything new pops up / changes, it's possible I missed it being full of course
Mark07, does your monkey possibly come from the same troop? ;D
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Up road from me,they are replacing a ECI cab here with a Huawei.
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Up road from me,they are replacing a ECI cab here with a Huawei.
Which cabinet number/exchange? I'd love to look up the reasons for that.
AFAIK they have plenty ECI stock for repairs/damage.
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Which cabinet number/exchange? I'd love to look up the reasons for that.
AFAIK they have plenty ECI stock for repairs/damage.
It's cabinet 31 at side of 6 Vane Street,Bath, it on Roadworks.org for starting 3rd -16th August, & exchange is Kingsmead.
Just across road from that cab is another cab, at bottom of Bathwick Hill by church,FTTC cab is in Vane Street by phone box.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3840212,-2.3516339,3a,75y,232.16h,93.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3c6OpR9DBPyM2-RKMIKRNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
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It's cabinet 31 at side of 6 Vane Street,Bath, it on Roadworks.org for starting 3rd -16th August, & exchange is Kingsmead.
Just across road from that cab is another cab, at bottom of Bathwick Hill by church,FTTC cab is in Vane Street by phone box.
Something just doesn't seem right . . . and I believe we've looked at the area before, with some assistance from Black Sheep.
Outside 6 Vane Street, the PCP cabinet is clearly marked as number 1. I've checked in all the images, from all angles, for all the available years. Moving along Vane Street, towards the telephone box, the "fibre" twin cabinet is Huawei SmartAX MT5603T equipped.
Over at the bottom of Bathwick Hill, near St Mary's Church, there is another PCP cabinet whose marking is difficult to see but after checking all the images, from all angles, for all the available years, it can be seen to be marked as number 31.
I'll be interested to read what j0hn might be able to unearth.
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If BT are changing ECI cabs to Huawai they should do all cabinets not just some.
I would really like to know their reasons for doing this so if anyone can find out why I am sure that would be useful information especially for ECI cab sufferers.
There are many things BT do not do as it will set a precedent so if they are swapping this cab I hope they are ready for my email asking to do my cabinet!
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If BT are changing ECI cabs to Huawai they should do all cabinets not just some.
We do not know that as a fact.
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Something just doesn't seem right . . . and I believe we've looked at the area before, with some assistance from Black Sheep.
Outside 6 Vane Street, the PCP cabinet is clearly marked as number 1. I've checked in all the images, from all angles, for all the available years. Moving along Vane Street, towards the telephone box, the "fibre" twin cabinet is Huawei SmartAX MT5603T equipped.
Over at the bottom of Bathwick Hill, near St Mary's Church, there is another PCP cabinet whose marking is difficult to see but after checking all the images, from all angles, for all the available years, it can be seen to be marked as number 31.
I'll be interested to read what j0hn might be able to unearth.
Your correct Burakkucat along with BS, a few months ago.
The cab on Bathwick Hill, (No 32 according to OR where & when checker), no idea where it's fibre twin is located.
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What it says on roadworks.org is "erect/renew 1 PCP cabinet" - maybe there is not enough space on either side of the existing PCP cabinet for a G.fast pod, due to the stone wall. I didn't see anything about replacing a FTTC DSLAM cabinet.
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Mark07, does your monkey possibly come from the same troop? ;D
Apparently so! Haha ::)
Be cool if the extra H cab was to fit a g.fast pod, but surely they can add these to eci aswell?
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Be cool if the extra H cab was to fit a g.fast pod, but surely they can add these to eci aswell?
Currently a "G.Fast pod" is fitted to the primary cross-connection cabinet (PCP) and not the "fibre" cabinet.
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Well that certainly is a confusing junction.
Even just looking at codelook and google maps it doesn't quite add up.
PCP31 has a Huawei FTTC cabinet.
PCP1 has none. It only serves a couple of dozen properties, most of them at flats at Grove House, 12 Pulteney Road.
PCP31 is full with a waiters list in effect. The roadworks description suggests the PCP is being reshelled and not a new DSLAM fitted.
600mm x 300mm x 1000mm is the size of the new fancy PCP's.
If the numbers on streetview are correct then it's strange that they put the DSLAM for 31 beyond PCP1 like that.
My initial suspicion would be that they were numbered incorrectly, but I really don't have a clue here.
Roadworks shows ducting coming from the cabinet numbered 31 and lists the position of PCP31 as being right where it appears to be
Location:
(PCP31) ACROSS CARRIAGEWAY JUNCTION OF DARLINGTON STREET, BATHWICK HILL
Then the other works listed contradicts this.
Location:
(PCP31) SIDE OF 6, VANE STREET
Description:
Erect/Renew 1 PCP cabinet and base (600mm x 300mm x 1000mm),Install 1m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,Install 3m of 7 poly ducts in Footway,Install 5m of 4 poly ducts in Footway
The site of the reshell is where the PCP1 appears to be.
I'm none the wiser, but there's no ECI being replaced.
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The cab on Bathwick Hill, (No 32 according to OR where & when checker), no idea where it's fibre twin is located.
PCP32 is much further up Bathwick Hill, with its fibre twin (Huawei MA5603T) round the corner on St Anns Way
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3822671,-2.3472347,3a,75y,43.57h,75.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA_p11FmOXmwz3845aNXawA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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PCP32 is much further up Bathwick Hill, with its fibre twin (Huawei MA5603T) round the corner on St Anns Way
Yes, so it is. Well found. :)
I really can't work out what is going on. I guess it's just a case of wait and see. There certainly isn't an ECI equipped "fibre" cabinet anywhere in that area of Bath.
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Go past there most days, so will see what happens..
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PCP31 is full with a waiters list in effect. The roadworks description suggests the PCP is being reshelled and not a new DSLAM fitted.
Just as an aside. Openreach reshelled most of the PCPs around here last year. It's not as if all of them were really old type either.
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Currently a "G.Fast pod" is fitted to the primary cross-connection cabinet (PCP) and not the "fibre" cabinet.
Ah, I see! Wasn't there talk of BT removing those PCPs once the network goes IP switched? Or did I make that up...
Suppose if they did, part of the decommissioning would be to move the pod to the DSLAM
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Can't see that happening.
I can't see how this would even be feasible.
The jumpering of pairs to activate an FTTC service is done in the PCP.
To completely remove the PCP but keep FTTC would require giving most engineers access to the DSLAM (this is NOT gonna happen) or doing this work in the underground junction box in front of the PCP instead.
Even when PSTN goes IP they will still need PCP's, unless they completely rip out the E-Side cables
I really really can't see them ripping up the E-Side cables and running the voice service from the FTTC DSLAMs.
LLU operators won't like the idea of that 1 bit.
As well as making their ADSL equipment obsolete they would also have even less control of the voice side of things.