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Title: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Bowdon on July 10, 2018, 11:19:36 AM
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/07/nic-wants-uk-gov-to-set-full-fibre-broadband-plan-by-spring-2019.html (https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/07/nic-wants-uk-gov-to-set-full-fibre-broadband-plan-by-spring-2019.html)

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The Government’s National Infrastructure Commission (NIC) has today published the United Kingdom’s first-ever National Infrastructure Assessment, which among other things calls for nationwide coverage of “full fibre” (FTTP/H) broadband by 2033 and for a related ‘National Broadband Plan‘ to be devised by Spring 2019.

The NIC, which is chaired by Sir John Armitt, consists of 7 commissioners including Dame Kate Barker, Professor Sir Tim Besley, Professor David Fisk, Andy Green, Professor Sadie Morgan, Julia Prescot and Bridget Rosewell. At present the NIC does not have statutory independence and their charter merely requires that the Gov respond to its recommendations “no more than a year after publication, and wherever possible within six months.”

At the time of writing we haven’t yet read the full report, although a sneak peek of the document seen by ISPreview.co.uk yesterday states that the broadband plan must deliver “full fibre connections across the whole of the country, including those in rural areas – this should ensure that the technology is available to 15 million homes and businesses by 2025, 25 million by 2030, and all homes and businesses by 2033.”

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    Sir John Armitt said:

    “Whether it’s electric or driverless cars, new energy sources, tackling the risk of climate change or preparing for the newest and fastest broadband speeds, the issues we’ve been considering profoundly affect people’s everyday lives.

    The whole purpose of the UK’s first-ever National Infrastructure Assessment is to think beyond the technologies of today and to ensure we can make the most of future innovations. It’s why it’s not just a one-off but something we will be repeating every five years to ensure we remain on the front foot.

    This is not some unaffordable wish-list of projects: it sets a clear direction for how to meet the country’s future infrastructure needs, and makes a realistic assessment of what can and should be delivered within the stated aim of Ministers for steady and continued investment over the coming years.

    I therefore look forward to the Government’s response to our report, and seeing how our recommendations can become reality.”

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    An Openreach Spokesperson said:

    “We share the Government’s full fibre vision for Britain. This year we’ll double our FTTP footprint and by 2020, we will have built it to 3 million homes across the UK.

    We want to reach 10m premises by the mid-2020s, and believe we can ultimately fully-fibre the majority of the UK under the right conditions.

    This is an expensive, complex, once-in-a-generation engineering project which the industry can only deliver with longer term certainty over the return on investment.

    We therefore agree with the NIC’s view that to achieve the 2033 ambition, the UK needs to cut the cost of full fibre deployment, promote a competitive market with a stable regulatory regime, and commit to deregulate in areas where competition is effective.”
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Ronski on July 10, 2018, 03:51:58 PM
ORs comments are quite interesting, clearly referring to not being able to remove copper and what they are allowed to charge for each line, as holding them back.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: CarlT on July 10, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
OR have been pretty consistent on that score. The #1 obstacle to wider FTTP in the UK remains Ofcom, as it has been for a while.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Ronski on July 10, 2018, 08:09:14 PM
Perhaps they need to be more vocal about it. No other operator is forced to endure what OR have to, we need to scrap LLU and the restrictions it imposes.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Weaver on July 11, 2018, 05:48:16 AM
Perhaps Ingintiinner would tell me a little more about Ofcom?

Presumably someone who pays their wages could go round and light a bonfire under them as needed?
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Chrysalis on July 11, 2018, 06:11:18 AM
Perhaps they need to be more vocal about it. No other operator is forced to endure what OR have to, we need to scrap LLU and the restrictions it imposes.

A reasonable and fair solution to me is that openreach are allowed to retire the copper in FTTP areas, but talktalk and sky get first refusal on the copper, meaning if they want to keep their ADSL LLU going they can buy it from openreach and maintain it themselves.
I also believe price controls on openreach need to be removed, any pricing regulation needs to be at the retail level only.  The wholesale market is so big now that BT group wont willingly destroy it, there will be a degree of self restraint on pricing to keep their wholesale customer base intact.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: burakkucat on July 11, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
A reasonable and fair solution to me is that openreach are allowed to retire the copper in FTTP areas, but talktalk and sky get first refusal on the copper, meaning if they want to keep their ADSL LLU going they can buy it from openreach and maintain it themselves.

That is a very good suggestion and one that I would happily endorse.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Ronski on July 12, 2018, 04:25:32 AM
But that would mean the power masks to protect ADSL would have to stay in place, which restricts VDSL speeds.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Chrysalis on July 12, 2018, 04:32:07 AM
yeah I dont think we ever gonna see retirement to improve VDSL, thats not going to be seen in the same degree of importance as costs of rolling out FTTP.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: Bowdon on July 12, 2018, 10:55:06 AM
But that would mean the power masks to protect ADSL would have to stay in place, which restricts VDSL speeds.

It amazes me that there are some people who can only get a decent speed using ADSL technology. The operators have different solutions at their disposal yet don't seem to be trying to move people towards FTTC technology.

I think there is something of the Yorkshire man when it comes to how some companies operate i.e. wanting to squeeze the very last drop out of the technology to save a few pennies.
Title: Re: NIC Wants UK Gov to Set Full Fibre Broadband Plan by Spring 2019
Post by: burakkucat on July 12, 2018, 06:34:15 PM
But that would mean the power masks to protect ADSL would have to stay in place, which restricts VDSL speeds.

Hmm . . . I need to further think about all the implications.  :hmm: