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Title: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Bowdon on May 16, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/05/openreachs-london-fttp-broadband-rollout-face-wayleave-obstacles.html (https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/05/openreachs-london-fttp-broadband-rollout-face-wayleave-obstacles.html)

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The boss of Openreach (BT), Clive Selley, has expressed concern over the delays being caused to their rollout of 1Gbps capable Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP/H) broadband ISP services across the UK City of London, which is partly due to the challenge of getting permission (wayleaves) from landlords.

Wayleaves are notoriously complicated and often costly legal agreements, which grant special access to land or buildings for the deployment and management of new infrastructure, such as running a new fibre optic cable through buildings or installing related infrastructure. But these can be tricky because each land or building owner requires a separate approach and then the wayleave may need approval from tenants, which takes time.

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    Clive Selley, Openreach CEO, said (City A.M.):

    “The one obstacle we face is with the owners of big buildings in city of London. It’s tough in London to work out who owns buildings and contact them, it’s quite unique as its an international city and buildings are owned by people across the planet.

    I worry that some connections could take years if the building owners don’t come forward.”

My advice would be to forget London until they change the process. I'm sure when fibre isn't being put in they will soon change their minds.
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Ronski on May 16, 2018, 01:23:30 PM
I'm sure some of the tenants will complain, but doubt the landlords will so long as the rent comes in.
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Weaver on May 19, 2018, 02:51:34 AM
Or we could just just pass a law, cut the crap.
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Bowdon on May 19, 2018, 10:17:59 AM
It's kind of interesting these days that at one point the government used to be very authoritarian and these days it seems nervous to make any major decision
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: niemand on May 19, 2018, 11:33:59 AM
You're having a laugh. This lot are horrendously authoritarian and a bunch of people want to be dictated to some more.

In these polarised days people would be told that a wayleave adjustment would be tantamount to compulsory purchase of their properties, which is ridiculous unless Jeremy Corbyn gets into power in which case it becomes perfectly feasible.
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Weaver on May 19, 2018, 01:17:28 PM
I understand Ignition's point. I presume there have been compulsory purchases associated with the is it HS2 train line thing?
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: Bowdon on May 19, 2018, 01:50:12 PM
You're having a laugh. This lot are horrendously authoritarian and a bunch of people want to be dictated to some more.

I meant to say that they seem to be less confident to come out and say it. There are very few major decisions that they publically state. Usually decisions seem to be whispered and murmered about, and the actual decision is made in some back room with media coverage months after.
Title: Re: Openreach’s London FTTP Broadband Rollout Faces Wayleave Obstacle
Post by: niemand on May 19, 2018, 10:28:00 PM
If politicians are doing things they know are likely to be unpopular why would they broadcast them?

Authoritarianism and confidence don't go together, quite the opposite: politicians are authoritarian precisely because they lack confidence. To be liberal takes confidence and a commitment to convictions. To be authoritarian requires a heavy hand, ideally some deviousness so the plebs don't get uppity before you've cemented your authority, and if possible enough influential support from those on the 'right side' to benefit from the authoritarianism to make it easier to carry the plan out.

See Singapore.