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Title: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 12, 2018, 01:12:22 PM
Hello folks, I would appreciate some advice on the current recommended VDSL modem for those of us on long lines.

My current situation is that I am in a new property on a 40/2 package with BT around 3300m from the FTTC cabinet. As a result, my speed is fairly slow. When the line was new around a year ago, the BT HH6 would sync at around 9.0Mbps down 1.0Mbps up. I then changed over to my own HG612 / ASUS RT-AC86U and got on with using the internet.

Gradually thoughout the past year, the speed I have obtained has slumped to around 5.6Mbps (ThinkBroadband Speed Test) which is getting to the point where the two of us are struggling to use the internet without conflict. We generally have one Apple Music stream and one YouTube video at 1080p. When were are both hitting it at once, there is buffering. The speed is completely consistent at all times of day with no "peak" slowing at all. All speed tests are wired.

Since it was trying our patience, I swapped back to the BT Home Hub 6 and it immediately negotiated a better speed out of the line of 7.3Mbps (ThinkBroadband Speed Test). It is reporting 1181/8474 Kbps at 6.5dB/6.4dB SNR. As soon as I put the HG612 back on, it dropped back to the old, lower speed of 1137/6812 at 6.1dB/7.1dB SNR.

While the HH6 was an improvement, I went through the BT Troubleshooting Tool which reported that I should still be getting more out of my line. I have been through Chat and have an Engineer on his way to check our wiring to make sure I am getting the best out of our package but that brings me to my question...

Given that the BT HH6 can negotiate and hold a better speed than the HG612, what VDSL modem would help me match what the HH6 can negotiate but still allow me to use my own router? Do you feel the HG612 should be able to do better if configured differently?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: j0hn on May 12, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
The HG612 has a pretty old DSL chipset.
My chipset of choice is the BCM63168
It syncs higher than any other chipset I've tried.
I'd confidently say it's preferred chipset for the majority on this forum.

Kitz has compiled a list with most of the modem/routers using Broadcom DSL chipsets.

https://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/BCM_routers

I find the Zyxel VMG1312-B10A (Not the VMG1312-B10D) syncs the highest on my line.
It's no longer manufactured so is becoming harder to source at a reasonable price. You can pick them up on EBay for about £40 new.

The Billion 8800NL R1 (NOT the newer R2) is also a highly recommended modem on these forums. It also has the BCM63168 chipset.

There's a newer BCM chipset, the BCM63138 that seems to perform as good as the 63168 for some users.
I found it synced slightly lower than my Zyxel though.
The choice of modems with this newer chipset is still quite limited.

After saying all that, you may find you see no improvement what so ever compared to the HH6/smart-hub.
I've never tried it myself (sold the 1 BT gave me, still sealed) but it seems to sync pretty well.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 12, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
Thank you for the very detailed reply. It is appreciated.

I had a quick look for Zyxel VMG1312-B10A and it looks like the price is going up and up. I will have a more thorough rummage and see what I can find.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 12, 2018, 06:03:57 PM
I'd encourage you to look at completed listings rather than the buy it now if you're looking at the auction site.

Many to be had for ~ £20 delivered second hand.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 12, 2018, 08:47:57 PM
I see what you mean about the completed listings. The one that is currently there for £21 sets off quite a few warnings. It is described as New but is clearly used, the buyer has a No Returns policy, is only a week or so old with one rating and has a lot of other similar routers for sale.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: banger on May 12, 2018, 11:28:37 PM
Dont worry about the no returns, ebay will cover you. I had a duff ZyXel and ebay gave me a pre-paid label to send it back, the seller refused the delivery so it ended up back with me then ebay refunded my payment.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 15, 2018, 12:15:22 PM
Well we just had the Openreach chap round for a chargeable visit to check my wiring. First obvious thing he found was star wiring for the extensions which was a surprise since the property is brand new. I will be raising that with my builder in the next few days.

Once he corrected that to just a single extension, he tested the line and said it was actually very clean apart from its length (around 3300m we estimate). The first visible change was the SNR dropped from 7.1dB to 6.3dB and the HH6 synced a *little* higher. Not much of an improvement but at least I now know the home wiring is clean and that what we get now will be our max speed.

The HH6 is syncing at 1173 / 8620 at SNR 6.7dB / 6.3dB. Line attenuation is 33.1dB

Now all I have to do is wait for a ZyXel to pop up at a sensible price.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: Weaver on May 15, 2018, 03:20:47 PM
@DanielCoffey there is a B10A on ebay for £67 at the moment
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 15, 2018, 04:25:15 PM
I have set up a watch for them. Hopefully one will come up soon at a bit less than that.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: Weaver on May 15, 2018, 05:09:46 PM
So my lines are more than twice as long as yours, at over 7300m.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 15, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
Hmm... sync speed is creeping up slowly which is a good sign. I'll leave it on the HH6 for a few days. One advantage on my particular line is that I find that my speed is very consistent throughout the day. There is no slower service at peak time.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 15, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
I have set up a watch for them. Hopefully one will come up soon at a bit less than that.

There are a couple of VMG8324-B10As finishing in the next 5 days that should go for reasonable money.

Edit: And if you are feeling adventurous, there are several VMG3925-B10Bs for around £30, it uses the same good BCM63168 and the firmware has even later xDSL driver A2pv6F039x1 vs the A2pv6F039v on the 1312 & 8324. Changes can be seen here:

https://www.cisco.com/web/software/282821780/140978/ReleaseNote_A2pv6F039x3.pdf

Must say I'm tempted to try one, or at least try getting the later dsl driver into the firmware for a 1312/8324 as there are several mentions of improvements to vectoring, which I have on my long line:

Quote

Fix G.993.2 Showtime drop issue for certain G.INP configuration

Improve G.993.2 stability in the presence of ADSL xtalk

Improve G.993.5 performance in long loop
...

Improve G.993.5 reach beyond 4kft
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: Weaver on May 15, 2018, 07:46:51 PM
What is the difference between the different models?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 15, 2018, 09:49:06 PM
When used as just a modem as DanielCoffey intends to replace a HG612 very little.

The VMG1312-B10A, VMG8324/8924-B10A & VMG3925-B10B all use the same broadcom chipset the BCM63168 that seems to have the best VDSL performance out there. Experience from the forums (and my own) suggests they all achieve very similar sync speeds, with the VMG1312 maybe just a little higher (I have experienced this, but the different is less a mbit so could be random). Maybe its input circuitry is slightly superior somehow, who knows.

Aesthetically the 1312 is preferable I guess as its a smaller rectangular box, with the 8324/8924 being quite a bit larger and an awkward shape for wall mounting.

Its the other features that serve no purpose when used as a modem that make the models different, the 8324/8924 support directly connected VOIP handsets, the 8924 has AC wireless etc.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 15, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
It will be for bridge/modem-only, yes.

I spotted a clean VMG3925-B10B for £30 boxed with all accessories from a good seller so decided to take it. It will be living in a cupboard so the looks and size are not critical.

Apart from factory reset and flashing to the latest firmware, do I need to do anything else? Is it likely to have any old ISP-specific stuff I need to get rid of for modem-only use?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 15, 2018, 10:20:14 PM
Ah great stuff! Be sure to let us know how it performs.

You may need to do some finagling to get the supervisor password to disable TR069 remote updates, but the methods are well documented I believe.

Edit: spotted the one you snagged I guess, brand new in box for £33.45 delivered, seems like a good deal given the retail is £115-130.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 15, 2018, 10:24:46 PM
I did wonder about that as I spotted some earlier posts about that. The 3925 I have grabbed is a "never unboxed" one with no ISP-specific branding on the box as far as I can see so I have no idea when it was last used. I have already grabbed the version 5.13 firmware from the end of last year in readiness.

The good thing is that I can put it up against the HG612 and the BT HH6 on a pretty clean (but long) line.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: burakkucat on May 15, 2018, 10:43:23 PM
Apart from factory reset and flashing to the latest firmware, do I need to do anything else? Is it likely to have any old ISP-specific stuff I need to get rid of for modem-only use?

As well as a factory reset, I would also advise clearing ROM-D.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 16, 2018, 08:11:52 PM
I have asked the seller if this will be an ISP-tied router or if it is a private purchase. I understand that makes a difference with what has to be cleared, yes?

Do I need a 4-pin to serial connection for any of this? I don't have one yet and don't know what they are called.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: burakkucat on May 16, 2018, 08:26:45 PM
With any (new to me) ZyXEL device I would, as a routine reaction, always clear ROM-D regardless of its provenance. No hardware manipulation will be required, so you will not need to source a USB to TTL serial console lead.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 17, 2018, 12:22:34 PM
I have just received the 3925-B10B today in mint condition.

It was in a KCom box. Do I need to do anything to snag the Supervisor password before flashing and ROM-D clearing? I saw a post a while back where some ISPs used a human-readable Supervisor password that was obfuscated when you cleared the ROM-D.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: tubaman on May 17, 2018, 12:37:37 PM
If its a KCom one the Supervisor password will likely be "retu0R1n0tsgn1K" (without the quotes).

Be a bit careful with clearing the ROM-D as it went a bit pear-shaped for huscoden at https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,20006.150.html (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,20006.150.html).
I suspect it was because he factory reset it and then upgraded the firmware, but it's hard to be sure.
 :)

Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 17, 2018, 12:39:10 PM
Thanks - I will have a look shortly after reading and saving any instructions for the correct reset procedure.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 17, 2018, 07:21:25 PM
You were quite right about the default KCom password but of course once I cleared ROM-D it changed it. I will go through the necessary steps to find out what it is now.

Just so I can get this straight, could folks check I have got all this set up properly please...

1. I have pinhole reset and updated firmware to 5.13(AAVF.10)C0 (which I know has nobbled DSLStats usage for now)
2. I have logged into supervisor and done a ROM-D clear
3. I have repeated the pinhole reset and connected the RJ11 to the master socket
4. IP Address is 192.168.1.1
5. Using the admin login I have changed to VDSL Bridge but don't know what settings to use for VLAN 802.1p and 802.1q. My ISP is BT.

I cannot suppress the firmware dial home function if it is enabled because admin does not see that menu. I need the supervisor

6. Connected LAN1 to the WAN on my ASUS RT-AC86U (192.168.1.254)
7. Connected LAN4 to the Netgear switch
8. Power cycled both Zyxel and ASUS boxes.

Could someone on BT VDSL please advise on the VLAN settings?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: sotonsam on May 17, 2018, 08:39:37 PM
I just setup a VMG1312-B10a on as Bridge.

802.1q vlan is 101.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 17, 2018, 09:38:44 PM
I am making a mess of this I think...

I have the Zyxel as bridge and 192.168.1.1. The ethernet cable goes from LAN1 to the WAN of my ASUS router, like I used to with the HG612. The ASUS is set to 192.168.1.254 and has its wifi on and is signed into the PPPoE BT details. When I look for the ASUS wifi SSID, I see the ASUS SSID but the Zyxel 192.168.1.1 address. Pretty frequently the ASUS WAN IP changes too.

I have a second ethernet cable going from Zyxel LAN4 to my switch so that I can get in on the 192.168.1.1 IP and check the settings. That works.

Is there a step by step guide to this somewhere?

EDIT : It may be a similar issue to grahamb's problem about bridge mode and subnets. When I pull the LAN4 ethernet cable and just have simple path of RJ11 - Zyxel - ASUS - switch it works perfectly but of course I have no access to 192.168.1.1 and the Zyxel stats.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: grahamb on May 17, 2018, 10:15:21 PM
Don't know if you've already looked but I've managed to solve my problem just using the one cable from bridge to wan. You'll have to try to find out what the Zyxel's bridge ip address is though because it's different to the lan ip you're currently using to access it. Although I'm not sure how you'd find that out through the Zyxel's GUI.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: j0hn on May 17, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
it is 192.168.2.1 by default
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: Weaver on May 17, 2018, 10:53:06 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by bridge IP?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: burakkucat on May 17, 2018, 11:13:20 PM
You were quite right about the default KCom password but of course once I cleared ROM-D it changed it. I will go through the necessary steps to find out what it is now.

By clearing ROM-D you have reverted the device back to the ZyXEL "factory fresh" default. The supervisor password is now the default value for your particular ZyXEL VMG3925-B10B.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: grahamb on May 17, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by bridge IP?

In Chrysalis' thread that J0hn links to on my thread, he has a picture of the Billion's lan config which shows the Billion's bridge ip. I needed to input that as the default gateway on my Asus to access the Billion's GUI and also use it as the IP address on the login page in DSLStats. I'm not 100% sure it works the same way for the Zyxel though but can't see why it wouldn't.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 17, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
I was wondering if we  had to do point 5 on this link... https://kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm on the Zyxel?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: grahamb on May 17, 2018, 11:31:34 PM
I've done it on my Billion because before I solved my problem with access and stats, I had to reset it as I'd tried to follow someone else's method elsewhere and found I couldn't access the modem at all afterwards. The Billion only showed it's bridge ip after I'd done the interface grouping thing.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 18, 2018, 07:25:53 AM
I was wondering if we  had to do point 5 on this link... https://kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm on the Zyxel?

Have you set up the interface groups as per the final section of the guide?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 07:30:15 AM
I am not sure I am setting up the LAN1 interface properly as per those instructions I linked... as soon as I reboot the modem and router when there is a cable from the Zyxel LAN4 to my switch, the Zyxel IP address (192.168.1.1) appears in the wifi from the ASUS router (192.168.1.254) and I cannot access the internet.

At the moment, cables are Zyxel LAN1 to ASUS WAN and Zyxel LAN4 to ASUS LAN (via switch).

On the Zyxel I was able to go to Network Settings > Interface Group and create a new group called Bridge with VDSL used and LAN1 assigned. I rebooted both devices and go the problem. As soon as I unplug the LAN to LAN cable and reboot, it is fine but I have no access to 192.168.1.1
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 18, 2018, 07:37:26 AM
Might seem like over complicating things, but I recall having similar issues to you when I was using 2 cables with a 1312-B10A, they went away when I set it up to use just one as per:
https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14621.0.html


Edit: Also have you disabled DHCP on the 192.168.1.1 interface in "Home Networking"? You dont want the modem trying to give out IPs.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 08:03:51 AM
I had not suppressed DHCP on the Zyxel, no as no guide I found had suggested it. I have now though (pending a reboot).

When reading part 5 of Crys' guide about interface groups the bit I was stumped on was the "Broadband > WAN Interface" part as that was not present on my 3925-B10B. I have stopped with just the "Network Settings > Interface Group" set as instructed for LAN1. Should I revert that to default and forget the second cable?

I am not really network-savvy so am unsure if I should set the Zyxel to 192.168.2.1 or it it does that itself in bridge mode. This is all new to  me so I am having to pick my way through those guides about subnets very slowly.

If it helps, my router is an ASUS AC-RT86U with ASUS-Merlin firmware.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 18, 2018, 08:16:30 AM
When you created the separate interface group for the VDSL connection it will have defaulted to 192.168.2.1, you can go check it under "Home Networking" and choosing the VDSL interface instead of Default from the drop down box at the top of the page.

Have you tried plugging in the 2nd lan cable since you have disabled DHCP? It should not require a reboot, but I may be wrong.


Edit: Also you seem to still have the wireless enabled on the zyxel, I'd disable.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
The wifi was disabled on the Zyxel - the odd behaviour I was getting was that I could see the SSID from the ASUS router but the IP address was the one from the Zyxel in bridge mode. Naturally no wireless devices could actually see the internet.

DHCP is now off on the Zyxel and I have re-connected the cable and restarted both devices. So far the wireless is behaving correctly with no mistakes on the IP address. Wireless devices can currently see the internet.

You are correct in that I can now see the 192.168.2.1 in my Bridge group on the Zyxel. Does that mean I am now set up to try the 1-cable subnet way of accessing the Zyxel (and hopefully stats)?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 18, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
So both cables in and you still cant ping the zyxel on 192.168.1.1?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
I could ping it on 192.168.1.1 earlier with both cables but I had left DHCP on the modem. As a result the router clients were confused about their addresses. Now modem DHCP is off, all seems to be behaving as expected.

To summarise where I am at now...

1. modem is in bridge mode and a network interface is set up for the VLAN.
2. modem DHCP is off.
3. modem is set to 192.168.1.1
4. cables are modem LAN1 to router WAN and then modem LAN4 to router LAN via switch
5. router is set to 192.168.1.254 with DHCP

All is behaving as I would expect. Since I have a 16-port netgear switch I can choose to leave the second modem LAN4 to router LAN cable attached if that will allow me to check modem stats.

I know I have to check stats manually since DSLStats was blocked with the latest Zyxel firmware for the 3925-B10B. I can live with that since I can check the connected speed on the modem myself.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 09:57:36 AM
The line seems pretty stable at the moment. I see the Zyxel 3925 reports line errors over 15 minute intervals and it is doing pretty well. The previous 15 minute interval had 2 FEC and no other errors. The current interval has zero FEC so far.

The HG612 settled at 1137 / 6812.
The BT HH6 settled at 1173 / 8664.

The VMG3925-B10B is currently at 1117 / 8626 but had drooped a lot to the low-7000s overnight. I will watch it over time today.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 18, 2018, 10:20:24 AM
So you are all up and running then, good stuff.

I know I have to check stats manually since DSLStats was blocked with the latest Zyxel firmware for the 3925-B10B. I can live with that since I can check the connected speed on the modem myself.

Do you know the nature of how DSLStats is blocked? Can you still telnet or ssh into the modem?

Sure you are aware, but it reads like you have been rebooting the modem quite a lot, be careful doing it any more as you may fall foul of the DLM.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 18, 2018, 12:32:21 PM
The DSLStats block is discussed in this thread... https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=20842.0

It centres around xdslctl being blocked in the current firmware I think.

I certainly do not wish to wake "He who must not be woken" so will leave the modem alone for a day now. It has held 1117 / 8626 for four hours now with just the odd FEC.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: burakkucat on May 18, 2018, 06:30:22 PM
The DSLStats block is discussed in this thread... https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=20842.0

It centres around xdslctl being blocked in the current firmware I think.

For posterity, I shall mention that the thread, linked above, is discussing the ZyXEL VMG1312-B10D.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 19, 2018, 08:20:04 AM
The DSLStats block is discussed in this thread... https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=20842.0

It centres around xdslctl being blocked in the current firmware I think.

I certainly do not wish to wake "He who must not be woken" so will leave the modem alone for a day now. It has held 1117 / 8626 for four hours now with just the odd FEC.

What sort of commands are you able to run in the sandboxed console in the latest firmware? Is there an "xtm" command?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 19, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
? gets us this... (see attached)
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 19, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
They really locked it down tight...  :(

There are still possible firmware modifications to get xdslctl accessible again though.

How far back into old firmwares do you have to go to get it back?
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 19, 2018, 09:57:17 AM
Not sure, but I am happy with its performance so far. It has held 1117 / 8626 overnight but has had one re-train in the early hours.

The thread talking about the DSLstats on the VMG1312-B10D did mention the firmware version you had to go back to on that model so I might have a look on the 3925 page and see what was around at the same time. I will wait for the DLM to forget about me first.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 19, 2018, 10:04:47 AM
Fair play. How are your error numbers? Does it seem like there was a burst before the retrain?

I'l keep pottering around with 1312 to see if there is an easy way to change some things to get shell access again (they blocked it in the most recent firmware). There are cmds to get it still, but circumventing what protections they have in place could provide a better solution that doesnt get patched.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 19, 2018, 10:10:13 AM
Yes there was... it looks like there was a burst of around 140k FEC, a few (single figures) downstream CRC and EC errors and a small number of upstream CRC/EC too.

Looking at the time it happened, we were up, had used the PC to check email and morning websites and then slept the PC to get ready and have breakfast. It is possible we have a device that is causing EMI so I will have a look over the next few days. DSLstats would make that more convenient.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 20, 2018, 03:36:31 PM
Thanks for all the help folks - it is really appreciated.

The VGM3925-B10B is holding 1117 / 8626 nice and steady for a couple of days now, a lot better than the 1137 / 6812 the HG612 could manage and only a smidge behind the BT HH6.

I know I am on the current locked-down firmware but for bridge mode (thanks too for the help setting that up) I am satisfied. If I need to query the modem, I'll log in and look at the stats.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: johnson on May 26, 2018, 08:00:48 AM
Think there might be solution to getting the supervisor pw and so stats monitoring working if you take a look at the thread in the unlocking forum.
Title: Re: Suitable replacement for HG612 on long rural line?
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 26, 2018, 08:02:24 AM
Thanks - I'll go have a look.