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Title: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 02, 2018, 12:23:42 PM

I know IBM launched their Quad9 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,20589.msg358961.html#msg358961) (9.9.9.9) DNS service recently to block malicious domains and Google have 8.8.8.8 but Cloudfare have now announced its own 'privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1 which they say is faster than Google's service.

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Focused on speed and privacy, 1.1.1.1 harnesses the power of the huge and widely distributed infrastructure built worldwide by Cloudflare to provide the fastest DNS service to date, according to DNSPerf. If that's not enough, Cloudflare consulted with browser manufacturers to understand their needs for a DNS service, with a resounding answer: privacy.

Browser manufacturers suggested Cloudflare should not keep transaction logs for longer than a week. But since the company's business model does not require it to harvest users' data, it has decided to go a step further and not even write the querying IP addresses to disk, wiping all the logs within 24 hours. Such a move blocks Cloudflare from building a detailed profile on each 1.1.1.1 user based on every website visited, as most - if not all of the other DNS services around the world - do. Also, Cloudflare's DNS service supports both DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-HTTPS protocols, two new approaches with the target of increasing DNS resolving security.

Above from Neowin (https://www.neowin.net/news/cloudflare-has-launched-the-internets-fastest-privacy-first-dns-service-1111)
Official Cloudfare announcement  (https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-1111/)

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: jaydub on April 02, 2018, 11:19:54 PM

Published on 1st April?  Hmmmm. ;)

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: renluop on April 02, 2018, 11:31:10 PM

Though Cloudflare comes up in Google aside mentions of 1.1.1.1 and article from ZDnet dated today. If it is an AFJ, it caught some surprising people.

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: Chrysalis on April 03, 2018, 12:16:02 AM

also has native dns over tls support

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 03, 2018, 03:34:08 AM

Quote from: jaydub on April 02, 2018, 11:19:54 PM

Published on 1st April?  Hmmmm. ;)

Its not an April Fool.. from the blog:

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Seriously, April 1?
The only question that remained was when to launch the new service? This is the first consumer product Cloudflare has ever launched, so we wanted to reach a wider audience. At the same time, we're geeks at heart. 1.1.1.1 has 4 1s. So it seemed clear that 4/1 (April 1st) was the date we needed to launch it.

1.1.1.1
Never mind that it was a Sunday. Never mind that it was on Easter and during Passover. Never mind that it was April Fools Day — a day where tech companies often trot out fictional services they think are cute while the media and the rest of the non-tech world collectively roll their eyes.

We justified it to ourselves that Gmail, another great, non-fictional consumer service, also launched on April 1, 2004. Of course, as Cloudflare's PR team has repeatedly pointed out to me in the run up to launch, the Gmail launch day was a Thursday and not on Easter. Nearly every media briefing I did this week ahead of the launch the reporter made me swear that this wasn't a joke. And it's not. I swear. And the best way to prove that is go to 1.1.1.1 (https://1.1.1.1), follow the instructions to set it up, and see for yourself. It's real. And it's awesome.

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: jelv on April 03, 2018, 09:55:38 AM

Looks good to me:

C:\Users\John>nslookup www.facebook.com (http://www.facebook.com) 1.1.1.1
Server:  1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com
Address:  1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    star-mini.c10r.facebook.com
Addresses:  2a03:2880:f129:83:face:b00c:0:25de
          157.240.1.35
Aliases:  www.facebook.com (http://www.facebook.com)

ETA: https://www.dnsperf.com/#!dns-providers,Europe

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: jelv on April 03, 2018, 10:08:59 AM

It doesn't rank top using DNS Benchmark - Level 3 does (and Google is well down):

 Final benchmark results, sorted by nameserver performance:
 (average cached name retrieval speed, fastest to slowest)

  192.168.  1.  1 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  + Cached Name   | 0.001 | 0.002 | 0.003 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  + Uncached Name | 0.013 | 0.060 | 0.265 | 0.069 | 100.0 |
  + DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.017 | 0.023 | 0.003 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
           Non-routable local internet address
                Local Network Nameserver


    4.  2.  2.  5 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.060 | 0.318 | 0.076 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.039 | 0.112 | 0.045 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 e.resolvers.level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


    4.  2.  2.  3 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.064 | 0.290 | 0.080 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.021 | 0.112 | 0.028 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 c.resolvers.level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


    4.  2.  2.  6 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.071 | 0.305 | 0.088 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.038 | 0.150 | 0.046 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 f.resolvers.level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


    4.  2.  2.  4 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.072 | 0.762 | 0.125 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.044 | 0.150 | 0.049 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 d.resolvers.level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


  129.250. 35.250 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.043 | 0.267 | 0.065 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.022 | 0.157 | 0.037 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                    x.ns.gin.ntt.net
     NTT-COMMUNICATIONS-2914 - NTT America, Inc., US


    1.  1.  1.  1 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.046 | 0.213 | 0.057 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.011 | 0.012 | 0.013 | 0.001 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
            1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com
        MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc., US


  129.250. 35.251 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.047 | 0.231 | 0.069 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.023 | 0.160 | 0.040 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                    y.ns.gin.ntt.net
     NTT-COMMUNICATIONS-2914 - NTT America, Inc., US


    4.  2.  2.  2 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.013 | 0.001 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.071 | 0.295 | 0.078 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.050 | 0.151 | 0.053 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 b.resolvers.Level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


    4.  2.  2.  1 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.009 | 0.010 | 0.012 | 0.001 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.010 | 0.075 | 0.762 | 0.123 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.010 | 0.050 | 0.156 | 0.053 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                 a.resolvers.level3.net
            LEVEL3 - Level 3 Parent, LLC, US


  208. 67.222.222 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.100 | 0.423 | 0.132 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.012 | 0.089 | 0.310 | 0.080 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                  resolver1.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  208. 67.220.123 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.012 | 0.100 | 0.443 | 0.128 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.108 | 0.317 | 0.089 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                resolver2-fs.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  208. 67.220.220 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.102 | 0.498 | 0.142 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.081 | 0.182 | 0.075 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                  resolver2.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  208. 67.222.220 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.103 | 0.461 | 0.135 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.091 | 0.184 | 0.076 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                  resolver3.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  208. 67.222.123 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.109 | 0.448 | 0.138 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.087 | 0.303 | 0.080 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                resolver1-fs.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  208. 67.220.222 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.010 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.119 | 0.455 | 0.152 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.094 | 0.185 | 0.073 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                  resolver4.opendns.com
               OPENDNS - OpenDNS, LLC, US


  156.154. 70. 22 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.012 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.011 | 0.059 | 0.270 | 0.072 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.012 | 0.015 | 0.020 | 0.003 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
          ··· no official Internet DNS name ···
              ULTRADNS - NeuStar, Inc., US


  156.154. 70.  1 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.010 | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.012 | 0.061 | 0.237 | 0.070 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.012 | 0.016 | 0.021 | 0.003 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
                   rdns1.ultradns.net
              ULTRADNS - NeuStar, Inc., US


  198.153.192.  1 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.012 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.012 | 0.062 | 0.274 | 0.074 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.013 | 0.016 | 0.022 | 0.003 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
          ··· no official Internet DNS name ···
              ULTRADNS - NeuStar, Inc., US


    8.  8.  4.  4 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.019 | 0.066 | 0.395 | 0.085 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.025 | 0.028 | 0.054 | 0.004 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
             google-public-dns-b.google.com
                 GOOGLE - Google LLC, US


    8.  8.  8.  8 |  Min  |  Avg  |  Max  |Std.Dev|Reliab%|
  ----------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
  - Cached Name   | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.011 | 0.000 | 100.0 |
  - Uncached Name | 0.019 | 0.066 | 0.314 | 0.080 | 100.0 |
  - DotCom Lookup | 0.025 | 0.031 | 0.133 | 0.017 | 100.0 |
  ---<-------->---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
             google-public-dns-a.google.com
                 GOOGLE - Google LLC, US

Title: Re: New 'fastest privacy-first' DNS Service 1.1.1.1
Post by: jelv on April 03, 2018, 11:04:21 AM

They are also on 2606:4700:4700::1111 and 2606:4700:4007::1001