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Title: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tbailey2 on March 04, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
MyDSLWebStats (MDWS) is closing down on Monday 12th March 2018

It is with some regret that I have to announce the closure of MyDSLWebstats. There are many reasons behind this but it's mostly due to the fact that it's taken over my life to the extent that it is about to become a victim of its own success as it's just proving too much for me to cope with. The server is also showing signs of overload recently with a rapidly increasing user base and would likely need a rewrite to get over this. I also have increasing difficulty coding/concentrating these days now I'm 73.

Another major problem is the looming implementation of GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) on May 25th. Since I am advised that even as an individual I hold sufficient data on everyone Registered as using MDWS to come under its umbrella, I just don't have the resources or effort needed at my age to get involved in meeting the many requirements it enforces or face the possible penalties it imposes so all that data has to go.

MDWS started as a pure experiment in 2014 with no idea if it was even feasible but it eventually was up and running with a lot of unpaid effort from all those involved (BaldEagle1, roseway, Ronski and tbailey2). We have since lost contact with one of the founding contributors (BaldEagle1) who wrote HG612 Modem Stats which now runs unsupported, which has put more pressure on roseway  when changes are needed to DSLStats.

So on Monday 12th March 2018 MDWS will become unavailable. If anyone wants a refund of any recent donation(s) they made I can do so on request but please do so quickly. Please cancel any standing orders related to donations and you will need to stop uploading by the cessation date else you will just be wasting your bandwidth.

MDWS is no longer accepting Donations or new Registrations as of today.

Thanks for your support over the years and hope the facility was useful to you.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: adslmax on March 04, 2018, 01:08:32 PM
@tbailey2 I would like to request a refund please. All the best for your healthy future.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: dgilbert2 on March 04, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
I am really sorry to read about the decision to close MDWS, but it is understandable.

I wish you well and thanks for the short time I was able to use your service.

Best of health to you.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: ktz392837 on March 04, 2018, 01:31:04 PM
I want to pass on thanks for providing the service over the years.  I will certainly miss it.

If anyone wants to provide a similar service I would consider donating.

I will miss the 24h overview graph, the all user stats page and the historic archive of snrm, sync speeds, errorred seconds and attenuation the most.

I guess everyone will be increasing the number of days and frequency dslstats keeps snapshots for now but it will not come close to keeping minute by minute data.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: pooclah on March 04, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
Iím sorry to hear that youíre shutting down MDWS but totally understand your decision.

Thank you for the service you have provided and please enjoy your retirement.

All the best

Kevin
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: j0hn on March 04, 2018, 01:55:35 PM
@tbailey2 I would like to request a refund please. All the best for your healthy future.
Hardly a recent donation. DONATION. It was never a paid service.

Thanks for all your hard work Tony.

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MDWS is no longer accepting Donations or new Registrations as of today.

No way to send a wee thank you donation?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
I will split this off into a separate topic so that is easier to spot and keeps comments about closure of MDWS in one place.
The old thread can still be found here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14361.0.html).





I would like to thank Tony for all his hard work and effort into creating MDWS.  Together with input from Eric (DSLstats) and BE1 & Ronski (HG612_modem_stats) for getting their own programs working seamlessly with MDWS the project was a huge success.

However the huge amount of unpaid time and effort into getting this working has perhaps been under estimated by some and I have no doubt that a few have become over demanding in their requests for features and queries.  Yet throughout Tony has tried to be accommodating and IMHO done an excellent job.

Whilst I too shall miss MDWS I fully understand Tony's reasoning behind this.  GDPR is going to be a headache for certain sectors which retain personal data. It is going to affect communities and charities.  I too was a bit worried how it would affect this site, but since the only 'personal data' stored is email addresses and because those are never used for marketing my interpretation is that normal forums are OK.   If not then the new regulations will destroy an awful lot of sites, forums and blogs. :(
It will likely impact the likes of TBB who keep speed test results to location, so not sure how they are going to deal with it.

Unfortunately I don't see anyone wishing to take over responsibility for GDPR on MDWS unless they are willing to designate someone responsible for that side of things too.  :(

Thank you Tony for what you have done and wishing you all the best for the future. :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2018, 02:13:16 PM
Hardly a recent donation. DONATION. It was never a paid service.

I saw the original post before the edit and must admit my eyes widened when I saw first saw it!  :o
Some people have used the service far more than others and I'm glad that the particular post was edited to actually wish Tony the best for the future.
 
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: roseway on March 04, 2018, 02:40:03 PM
>>> Thank you Tony for what you have done and wishing you all the best for the future.

Seconded. :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: skyeci on March 04, 2018, 02:42:59 PM
Many thanks Tony for all your work.

all the best for the future!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: bilbokitz on March 04, 2018, 02:58:12 PM
Thank you Tony.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: ktz392837 on March 04, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
Does anyone know why MDWS was going to be so impacted by GDPR?  I thought it only really had an email address that is perhaps personally identifiable what else could be causing the issues?

Adslmax i dont know how to say what i want to say but here goes anyway could I suggest you post more information on why you need a refund (eg it could be you just donated again etc)?  I was surprised when I read your original reply especially as I get the uniformed impression you should have already got plenty  value from all but the most recent donations?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: g3uiss on March 04, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
Tony

Thanks for all the hard work over the years. If it was a consideration, I might be able to sort the GDPR having just done this for two organisations much more complicated with marketing data etc

Tony
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: banger on March 04, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
Thank you Tony. :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
I honestly don't know as it seems a bit of a minefield, but I believe Tony has looked into it and asked for professional advice,  it does affect MDWS on several counts and it would be time consuming to ensure that he complied.

I could be wrong (possibly am as I no expert) but off the top of my head these could be some of the areas.
-Info viewable by others
-ISP info
-Use of Geo Location
-Storage and security of running own server

There's also something else which I can envisage being problematic for some site/forum owners and that's to do with subscriptions, so if you run a forum and you have member sectors based on those who may have donated to obtain a different status. Anyone who takes subscriptions could be affected. 

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At first I was thinking it me affect me because even though I don't use mailing lists,  I store email addresses for log-on info.   But if they go that far then half of the internet is going to end up shutting down.   There's millions of forums that require this info, what about blog sites too?  What about IP addresses?  all servers store this data.  All forum/blogs etc use IP data so that bans can be placed.    I think if GDPR goes to that extent then they will have destroyed the internet to all but the big corporate sites who can afford to employ data controllers.   :(

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ETA
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted.

It looks like g3uiss may have a much better idea than me.

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: NewtronStar on March 04, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
Have really enjoyed using MDWS over the past few years and this helped me get a better understanding of how FTTC lines differ in lots of ways than you can imagine.

All I can say is thanks for making this possible for us and you go an relax now.

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: 4candles on March 04, 2018, 04:48:11 PM
Sorry to hear it's ending, but totally understand why, Tony.
Many thanks for all your hard work - much appreciated.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Westie on March 04, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Thank you, Tony, for all your hard work and dedication, and I wish you all the best for a long, happy and healthy future.

Although I 'came late to the party', my gratitude for what you have achieved and the service you have provided is immense. I have always found graphs to be a great way of presenting complex data in easily comprehended ways, and it's been very instructive in my foray into the world of understanding broadband. The ease with which I have been able to compare my line stats over such varied time periods, and also compare them with others' stats is a tribute to both your skill in coding and your understanding of the subject. Furthermore, your response to user requests (even the 'silly' ones) has been exemplary. There are 'professional' companies who would do well to learn from you, and I have been amazed at the quality of what has been essentially a free resource.

I can see I'm going to be busy this coming week, finding other ways to do the data analysis you have made so easy! ;) I'll miss MDWS, but my main response is gratitude that I had the opportunity to use it at all.

Take care,

George

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: broadstairs on March 04, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Thanks for all your efforts Tony. I fully understand why you feel it necessary to take this action. As Kitz says if this all goes too far then lots of things will end up in the 'bit bucket'.

Stuart
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Adam86 on March 04, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
This is some really sad news to hear, each member of my family has an account on there.

I know it might be a bit much asking but is there any possibility of a slight extension on the cut off date? I only ask because it is rumoured that ECI Lines are meant to be getting G.INP and 3db profiles W/C 5th March, so it would just be nice to potentially see some stats coming through over the new few weeks to see if this is indeed the case or not.

Cheers
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ronski on March 04, 2018, 05:15:02 PM
I would also like to say a big thank you to Tony, and I fully understand why he's closing it down. The work on the GUI for HG612 stats took up a lot of time when I was writing/updating it, but that hasn't required ongoing work recently. For Tony the ongoing maintenance, fixing issues and upgrading the system/hardware must be very time consuming.

Thanks again Tony, hope you have a great second retirement  :fingers:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: j0hn on March 04, 2018, 05:23:51 PM
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I only ask because it is rumoured that ECI Lines are meant to be getting G.INP and 3db profiles W/C 5th March

The info given was 4th week in March, but seems to have been interpreted as 4th March.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tommy45 on March 04, 2018, 05:51:30 PM
General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) I can't see how this would apply to this facility because IMO no personal data that isn't already publically available is there, info from an IP addresses doesn't constitute personal info, 
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Bowdon on March 04, 2018, 06:04:23 PM
I didn't use the service myself. But recognise how much value and impact it has had on the community.

To have been running such an important service for so long, and holding to a high working standard shows a dedication that few have these days.

Thank you for your service.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: g3uiss on March 04, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
I honestly don't know as it seems a bit of a minefield, but I believe Tony has looked into it and asked for professional advice,  it does affect MDWS on several counts and it would be time consuming to ensure that he complied.

I could be wrong (possibly am as I no expert) but off the top of my head these could be some of the areas.
-Info viewable by others
-ISP info
-Use of Geo Location
-Storage and security of running own server

There's also something else which I can envisage being problematic for some site/forum owners and that's to do with subscriptions, so if you run a forum and you have member sectors based on those who may have donated to obtain a different status. Anyone who takes subscriptions could be affected. 

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At first I was thinking it me affect me because even though I don't use mailing lists,  I store email addresses for log-on info.   But if they go that far then half of the internet is going to end up shutting down.   There's millions of forums that require this info, what about blog sites too?  What about IP addresses?  all servers store this data.  All forum/blogs etc use IP data so that bans can be placed.    I think if GDPR goes to that extent then they will have destroyed the internet to all but the big corporate sites who can afford to employ data controllers.   :(

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ETA
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted.

It looks like g3uiss may have a much better idea than me.

I've being doing this work for some time on a couple of theatres that store extensive marketing data.

In a VERY broad sense, there isn't so much of an issues about whats stored but having a clear policy how its used and how long its kept that is available to users of the "Service" There is no intent to stop data being stored (as you rightly point out - everything stops)

Tony
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Browni on March 04, 2018, 06:12:20 PM
I'm a relatively new user of the service but still sad to hear of it's impending closure although I can understand why.

Thank you very much Tony for providing such an excellent service and best wishes for the future.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: atkinsong on March 04, 2018, 06:23:29 PM
Like Bowden I didn't use the service, but having spent an entire career in IT (before it was called IT), and being of a similar age, I fully understand why.
It is clear to me that Tony has gone "above and beyond" and deserves all credit for that. All the best for the future.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: JamesK on March 04, 2018, 06:27:03 PM
All the best Tony. I've used the service for a few years, and certainly appreciated all the info its provided me about the health (or lack of) of my line.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: underzone on March 04, 2018, 07:05:20 PM
Tony, maybe you should transform MDWS a locally logging service only.

You have the Pi installer for example, let the Pi store 30 days of stats for users. The Pi could run a web interface accessible only locally on the internal network.

It would just be a local client type service - no centralised server needed or required.

You could charge a modest fee, like you do now to allow 30 days stats if paid, or just 1 days stats if using a trial version.

People could still export stats and post them on Kitz if they desire.

Just an idea  ;D
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tiffy on March 04, 2018, 07:08:32 PM
As a MDWS user / subscriber on my line, son's & daughter's lines for under a year since my migration from ADSL to VDSL, I can only echo the already expressed sentiments of the other forum members, in conjunction with DSLStats, what a fantastic facility this has provided, will be sadly missed.

Tony, I can only imagine the amount of skill, time and effort put into the creation, maintenance and day to day running of the system, it is completely understandable that the time has come for you to call a halt and take a well earned rest, thank you so much for your efforts.
The ability to so easily monitor, trend, archive my line stat's and compare results with other contributors has increased my knowledge and understanding of xDSL systems enormously with the always willing help from other kitz forum members.
The ability to keep an eye on my son's and daughter's VDSL line stat's remotely has been invaluable.

Very best wishes for the future Tony.

Eric, keep up the good work with DSLStats, your efforts are very much appreciated.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tiffy on March 04, 2018, 07:14:07 PM
Tony, maybe you should transform MDWS a locally logging service only.

You have the Pi installer for example, let the Pi store 30 days of stats for users. The Pi could run a web interface accessible only locally on the internal network.

It would just be a local client type service - no centralised server needed or required.

You could charge a modest fee, like you do now to allow 30 days stats if paid, or just 1 days stats if using a trial version.

People could still export stats and post them on Kitz if they desire.

Just an idea  ;D

What an excellent idea, having 3 RPi's in place on the lines I look after I would certainly subscribe to that.

Would be such a shame to just abandon the first class interface of MDWS when Tony shuts down his on line server and DSLStats is still operational and supported.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: roadsnail on March 04, 2018, 07:19:34 PM
Yet another user late to the party wishing you the best and sending my thanks. Thanks for a great site and your superb support the time my ip address was accidentally blacklisted  ???

I understand completely how much time and effort this project can consume, so enjoy your retirement!

Finally, wouldn't it be great if you could open source the server side code if that's possible? Just a thought.



Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: simon194 on March 04, 2018, 07:46:31 PM
What an excellent idea, having 3 RPi's in place on the lines I look after I would certainly subscribe to that.

Would be such a shame to just abandon the first class interface of MDWS when Tony shuts down his on line server and DSLStats is still operational and supported.
I'll second that. I run several Rpi's myself and it would be great to have the MWDS functionality available locally.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: j0hn on March 04, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
That would require every user wishing to run it locally to have all the code, sql, webserver, database, etc installed.

It would require the entire project to be rewritten and packaged into an installer. That would be a huge task.
If money was the issue then it would be much easier for Tony to simply charge for access rather than voluntary donations.

The reason the project is ending is due to the huge amount of time Tony needs to spend on it, and that it would need a complete rewrite to continue to run on its current hardware.

Considering these circumstances I don't think it's fair to ask for the entire code to be rewritten to run locally. It may not even be possible to package everything that would be needed.

DslStats runs its own webserver. That can be used in the meantime.

You could always add a redirect of www.mydslwebstats.co.uk in your HOSTS file and point the uploads to your own IP. Have a play with Google charts and see what you can come up with (I'm tempted to try something like this). The validation check may prevent this though.

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Finally, wouldn't it be great if you could open source the server side code if that's possible? Just a thought.

This is the only way that I could see this project continuing, with someone taking up the development, hosting and running of the site.

I totally understand why someone who has spent years writing code on something doesn't want to just give that away, for various reasons.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: V_R on March 04, 2018, 10:07:15 PM
Such a shame to see it go but as others have said, I can understand why.

Thank you for all you have done in the past and if you ever decide to restart the project again, I'd happily donate again, and I can't believe anyone would even ask for a refund.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: adslmax on March 04, 2018, 10:31:50 PM
I do hope that MyDSLWebStats will be handed over to someone and get it back and up running in the future. I would donate £10 back.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Black Sheep on March 04, 2018, 10:53:55 PM
I do hope that MyDSLWebStats will be handed over to someone and get it back and up running in the future. I would donate £10 back.

I know Tony said he'd refund anybody who requested it .... but £10 .... really ??  ::) :-X
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: marjohn56 on March 05, 2018, 08:08:36 AM
Just like to add my thanks to Tony for all his hard work and effort over the years. MDWS has become part of my daily ritual and will be greatly missed, on the other hand, all the hours spent viewing it can now be put to better use. ;)

Rather than a refund I would have liked to send Tony one final donation as a token of my appreciation - have a drink on me, sadly the site is not accepting donations.

I have just quickly enabled the web server and email settings in DSLStats and all is working well.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jt999 on March 05, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
Such a shame as MDWS was something I'd check daily, but GDPR is a scary beast so I totally understand the reasoning.

Thanks for all the work you put into it, whilst I was quite late to it also it really helped me sort out my connection issues.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: stevebrass on March 05, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
First of all - thanks to Tony for all his hard work and dedication.

Secondly - is there any mileage in using Google Docs to keep some limited data?

As I understand it, GDPR does not apply to personal contacts not being used for any commercial gain. If I am wrong let me know.

But some sort of summary data - similar to that shown on the all user summary on MyDSL - might have some value?

If DSL Stats could produce a CSV file I would consider be the shared spreadsheet editor.

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: valleysboy on March 05, 2018, 11:41:38 AM
I'd like to add my grateful thanks to Tony for all the hard work he has put into keeping the site going.

It's been a fascinating resource, and I shall miss it, but totally respect the decision to close.

Best Wishes to you Tony,

Val

[Edit]

It would be remiss of me not to also thank Eric for his sterling work on DSLStats, especially the raspberry pi version....
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jaydub on March 05, 2018, 01:54:47 PM
Thanks, Tony for all your efforts.

It's a shame to see such a useful tool disappear into the sunset, but the hobby has turned into an unpaid occupation and you don't need that at your age.  Time for you to manage time for your best benefit and not ours.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: gazaai on March 05, 2018, 03:32:51 PM
Thanks for your hard work on this Tony. I will certainly miss the tool as will many others!

Been using it for years. Hopefully someone else can create another version just as good :fingers:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ixel on March 05, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
Just like to say thanks for MyDSLWebStats. I will miss it and you can keep my donation (I think I donated in the past?) as a thanks.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Deathstar on March 05, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
Again, another one late to registering and using the portal.

But thanks

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: grahamb on March 05, 2018, 06:39:46 PM
I set up and joined three days ago - looks like my timing was spot on.  :comp:  ;)

Have to say I think the site is really rather impressive to look at, even if I have barely any understanding of what it all means.  :no:

Anyway, here's wishing good health to Tony.  :)  :drink:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: colin79666 on March 05, 2018, 08:03:33 PM
As per previous comments this is disappointing but completely understandable.

I only got into monitoring my stats in January and have invested in a Pi and HG612 as well as MyDSLStats. It has been most useful and while DSLStats has the web server component it isn't as fully featured and of course can't send alerts when the line goes down.

I live in hope someone else can take on this great service and wish Tony all the best in his well earned retirement from the site :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Zico on March 05, 2018, 08:12:32 PM
Another recent user of MDWS here and another thank you for the time you spent on the service.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Jasonkruys on March 05, 2018, 08:51:10 PM
I echo all (actually only most ) of the comments posted so far - a tremendous thanks for all of the personal time and effort you have put into this.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: JezR on March 05, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Many thanks Tony for all the hard work, will miss my daily hit of MyDSLWebStats   :'(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: iusetheinternet on March 06, 2018, 07:31:42 AM
I just signed up to say a big thanks to Tony and everyone else involved with this project. I've only recently discovered and started using all these cool tools so I've missed most of the fun, but it was very impressive what you built.

I'm not surprised to see GDPR mentioned when discussing this sad subject of closure. Time for a rant, hello everyone btw!

<rant>
I suspect we'll be seeing many more smaller sites shutting down once they get exposed to the demands of GDPR. Much of we do online is going to get caught up in these new regulations. It's not just large e-commerce and business sites - but even small blogs, forums, anything too that uses ads or analytics to help pay the bills - all this will at least need legal statements from you to your end users, and you'll need to ensure your partners are fully compliant with GDPR. There are other compliance issues too such as where the data is stored if you are hosting outside the EU as some people do, although this happens less frequently now than used to be the case when EU data costs were much more expensive - but can be an issue if you use services outside the EU such as mailing list providers, engagement and commenting systems, etc.

The wordpress community is scrambling to try and respond before these regulations come fully into force in May this year. It's not just the platform (such as a Wordpress CMS or forum system), but any plugins you have installed too that might do anything with personal data needs to be compliant and included in your statement. Usernames (can be), IP addresses, and email addresses are to be treated as personal information. If someone on a forum requests to be forgotten at the very least you have to anonymise all their data (i.e. change the usernames attributed to every post and quoted reply, which may be enough according to some people, or maybe even destroy all that post data). You need to lay out all data collection you do, including partners such as advertising companies, google analytics, etc. and the EU expects this to be in human digestible form - i.e. no longer buried in long legal disclaimer text. Most people also collect server log files that contain identifying information so you'll need to deal with that too and include those in any requests for data.

There are also data security requirements. There are also questions about who would be responsible for any breaches should exploits be found in the software you are using on your site.

Anyone you hold personal information about can demand to see all the data you hold about them, and you are required to respond within a reasonable time frame. This one could be fun on a forum. There are also provisions for providing export of all this data you hold in a common useful format (such as CSV) but it's questionable whether this would apply to blogs/forums. And the right to be forgotten stuff I mentioned earlier could be messy for forum sites with threaded conversations, if you choose to comply in the most extreme way and simply destroy all user contributed data when asked (again, this won't be as easy as just deleting all the posts that belong to their userid in your database, any quotes in other posts will need handling too).

It's an absolute minefield for people who don't have the resources to hire lawyers and security consultants.

I know of some US sites that are planning to just outright ban all EU citizens via geoblocks to avoid GDPR. There are rules about geoblocks inside the EU, but obviously there's nothing the EU can do if an overseas site denies access to those based in the EU. I wonder how EU citizens will feel about the EU if some of their favourite sites get shut off to them due to these burdensome regulations? Or even EU communities that shutdown entirely due to GDPR? Let's just say I doubt many of these people will celebrating "thanks EU for trying to protect my privacy".
</rant>

So yeah I can see why MyDSLWebStats is going away just because of GDPR alone, let alone all the other reasons that were outlined in the sad announcement that just caught my attention.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: d2d4j on March 06, 2018, 07:52:00 AM
Hi

Iím sorry for lateness, just getting over a chest infection (long story sorry)

Good luck tony and all the very best for the future. I appreciate all your hard work

Like others, if you open your donations for a short time, I would certainly donate as a leaving present

All the very best and enjoy retirement

John
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: KingJ on March 06, 2018, 09:40:41 AM
I'm sad to hear that it's closing down, but thank you very much Tony for running this service. The reasons for closure are regrettable, but totally understandable. Without MDWS, I think I would have struggled to get my FTTC line performing as it is today! I made a donation in the past and consider it worth every penny. I would be more than happy to send an additional final thank you donation as others have also mentioned.

Would you be willing to share the source code to MDWS? Either just as a simple dump here in a compressed attachment or uploaded to Github or similar. Although I can appreciate the reasoning behind development issues and regulatory issues with running the service, if the source was available to the public others may be willing to take it on - in terms of overall development, hosting and regulatory compliance (and for example, I could quite easily see users wanting to run small private instances!). Understandably of course, it is your code and if you do not wish to share it publicly I completely respect that choice!

Thank you once again for developing and running this service.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: adrianw on March 06, 2018, 01:54:23 PM
Another belated thank you Tony!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Browni on March 06, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
As the donations route is reportedly closed down, I went for plan B and bought Tony's book 'The Churchill Veto' (http://boggydog.wixsite.com/cveto) as a further token of my appreciation.

Best wishes Tony.

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: 22over7 on March 06, 2018, 07:57:16 PM
Thank you very much Tony.  You're a marvellous and rare  public-spirited individual.  I wish you peace and fun.

I mulled over what MDWS was worth to me. In reality, it gave me (in conjunction with the Kitz forums)
some very-lacked insight into the very arcane topic of broad-band technology. I could look at my own stats in a beautifully
laid out and finely judged way, and other peoples too, and try to make out what was meaningful, or not, and why.
I'm slightly less ignorant now.

In money, after some humming and hawing, I think it was worth something like a fiver a month. I mean, I would have paid that,
and maybe then made better use of it.  To my shame, I never contributed anything like that, over two years of using
this marvellous resource.

Makes me wonder about the Kitz web-site...


Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: adrianw on March 06, 2018, 08:14:19 PM
As the donations route is reportedly closed down, I went for plan B and bought Tony's book 'The Churchill Veto' (http://boggydog.wixsite.com/cveto) as a further token of my appreciation.
I bought this some time ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: d2d4j on March 06, 2018, 08:19:40 PM
Hi

I didnít even know about Tony wrote sorry

I too have just purchased a book as a thank you to Tony

I hope Tony, you enjoy retirement

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tbailey2 on March 06, 2018, 10:26:29 PM
DONATIONS

Kitz has persuaded  me to resurrect the donations facility in view of the number of people wishing to do so. It works as before except there will be no further acknowledgement from the site(i.e. no email or enablement of other facilities.) Thanks in advance if you do.

I have been quite moved by many of the comments made and they are very much appreciated. It makes me feel the project was worthwhile and that I achieved something.

I'm staying in the background with respect to replying to all the suggestions and ideas here but am keeping in contact with Eric, Kitz and others where I feel I can help. The FTP idea is good - in fact it's almost the first thing we tried in MDWS!

Thanks for the comments on my novel, I've almost run out of copies now. There is a film/TV script being professionally written but it has stalled and I need to chase it up.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: MaximusPrime on March 07, 2018, 10:30:52 AM
DSL Stats is a great piece of Software, thank you, it has helped me

Maybe you could sell it? Let some1 else take over?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: underzone on March 07, 2018, 11:23:35 AM
I think Kitz should fold this MDWS stat gathering into her site. It is a perfect fit.
Much like thinkbroadband monitors speeds, produces stats and articles - basically anything they can to monetise that data.
It could also produce a steady income stream for kitz, and drive more traffic to this site.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: roseway on March 07, 2018, 11:36:31 AM
@MaximusPrime: DSLstats is a separate program, and is not closing down.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: roseway on March 07, 2018, 11:51:57 AM
@underzone: Apart from the complexity and cost of what you suggest, the Kitz sites are not commercial. There is also the looming problem of GDPR. It's not going to happen.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: d2d4j on March 07, 2018, 11:59:01 AM
Hi

Sorry @tony, I tried to donate but I could not see the donate sorry

It maybe my tired eyes though so Iíll look again when back later

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: AngelRex on March 07, 2018, 12:18:58 PM
Hi Tony,

Thank you for an amazing service and all the help to this community.  Although I haven't used MDWS for some time, it was an amazing resource when I needed it - so a big thank you and to echo what everyone else has said, I'd like to wish you well and less stress!

Many thanks again
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tbailey2 on March 07, 2018, 12:23:26 PM
Hi
Sorry @tony, I tried to donate but I could not see the donate sorry
It maybe my tired eyes though so Iíll look again when back later
Many thanks
John
You need to have logged on reasonably recently as the donate link is only visible to registered users (for reasons that I won't go into). I've PMd you a link that may work if not.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: gt94sss2 on March 07, 2018, 04:21:48 PM
Thanks for the comments on my novel, I've almost run out of copies now. There is a film/TV script being professionally written but it has stalled and I need to chase it up.

And you will have one less copy now given I have just purchased one as well.

As others have already said, I also wanted to express my appreciation at your work on MDWS and while disappointed, fully understand your reasons for not being able to continue to support the service.

While I hope others may be able to work on an alternative, I wish you the best of luck in your 'retirement' :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: GaryW on March 07, 2018, 06:18:36 PM
Sad but understandable that you're shutting down.  I've only used MDWS since late last year, but I've found it hugely useful and educational - so a big thank you from me for creating it in the first place and keeping it going for long enough for me to experience it!  (And the value I got from it was massively more than the donation I made.)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on March 07, 2018, 09:57:09 PM
Thanks for the time and effort on the project Tony, would you be willing to share the code and database so someone could possibly take the project over?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: kitz on March 08, 2018, 11:44:08 AM
I'm not surprised to see GDPR mentioned when discussing this sad subject of closure. Time for a rant, hello everyone btw!
I suspect we'll be seeing many more smaller sites shutting down once they get exposed to the demands of GDPR. Much of we do online is going to get caught up in these new regulations.
<snip... >  </....snip>

It's an absolute minefield for people who don't have the resources to hire lawyers and security consultants.

Hi and welcome to the forums and thank you for your insightful post. :)

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: kitz on March 08, 2018, 11:49:59 AM
I think Kitz should fold this MDWS stat gathering into her site. It is a perfect fit.
Much like thinkbroadband monitors speeds, produces stats and articles - basically anything they can to monetise that data.
It could also produce a steady income stream for kitz, and drive more traffic to this site.

Sorry I can't for several reasons.
iusetheinternet (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.msg366970.html#msg366970) covered a lot of the points why GDPR is going to be a complete nightmare for many smaller and unprofitable sites who just do not have the resources to be able to meet the requirements.  :(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: freelander on March 10, 2018, 06:04:26 AM
Many thanks Tony for all you have done, good luck and good health for the future
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: cwaite on March 10, 2018, 10:08:12 AM
Thank you Tony you have really helped me monitor my flaky connection over the years, MyDSLWebStats will be missed,  Enjoy your retirement!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on March 11, 2018, 10:39:18 AM
i could handle the running costs, put it on a windows/linux vm in a datacentre, guiss can handle legal side, 3rd piece of jigsaw is a dev, if no volunteer here ill ask martin


it would be much easier if we had the existing code, but not impossible to start again

if starting from scratch i also have another php developer in mind.

personally i feel yes new regulation needs to be adapted to but once its understood it wont be a big deal. also they not going to be proactively forcing compliance, they dont have the manpower for that.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: marjohn56 on March 11, 2018, 11:30:38 AM
@Chrysalis - I'm prepared to help where I can, If Tony can be persuaded to 'gift' the system as is, we could adapt it as required.

Of course there would need to be a large header thanking Tony and possibly a link to purchase his books.  :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on March 11, 2018, 01:07:55 PM
Thanks martin, so we have some kind of plan now at least, Eric is going to make a new build of dslstats which will present the data as is uploaded to MDWS, so we can use that to see the data format.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: g3uiss on March 11, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
i could handle the running costs, put it on a windows/linux vm in a datacentre, guiss can handle legal side, 3rd piece of jigsaw is a dev, if no volunteer here ill ask martin
OK by me if required Tony
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ronski on March 11, 2018, 05:34:51 PM
I would like to see the project continue, My DSL Webstats is a great service and very useful, so I'm all for Chrysalis taking it on, hopefully Tony can pass the code on  :fingers:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ronski on March 11, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
I've created an update for HG612 Stats which turns off and removes MyDSLWebstats functionality  :(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: NewtronStar on March 11, 2018, 10:08:26 PM
hopefully Tony can pass the code on  :fingers:

Hello Ronski was wondering what you mean by code is that his whole database for all MDWS user to date including there usernames & passwords + email addresses
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ronski on March 11, 2018, 10:30:24 PM
The code that is the website, so as to save them from starting from scratch.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: d2d4j on March 11, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
Hi

Sorry a lot has happened today whilst itís been Motherís Day

I would think legally/morally it is is wrong to pass over user details from tony mdws and new agreement should be sort for any user whom wishes to use any new software.

I also have been thinking long and hard over mdws, and I even got to the point of graphing but unfortunately not knowing exactly what the numbers meant, would mean a steep learning curve

I came to the conclusion that as roseway and hgstats weíre both been modified to store data which mdws stored, locally is there a need or would users want to use a mdws function.

I guess time will tell but kudos to chrysalis and all

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: NewtronStar on March 11, 2018, 10:51:30 PM
Thanks Ronski and d2d4j for clearing that up, The database I guess would have personal info mixed into it for each user, and I could not agree for my user data to be copied or placed onto someone else's server without my permission.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ixel on March 12, 2018, 12:16:07 AM
There's only two options as I see it.

1) An option to export your original account's data on MDWS, then an option to import this yourself on the new website

... or ...

2) No such options, just sign up as fresh
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: V_R on March 12, 2018, 07:58:48 AM
If I had the option to transfer my data to a new system I would, I'd very much like to keep my history.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: marjohn56 on March 12, 2018, 08:11:55 AM
The issue with transferring data would mean that Tony would have to create export routines and effectively re-open MDWS and that's something I for one do not want Tony to do, let him enjoy his retirement. Otherwise, if Tony does give MDWS to the community then ALL data would need to be given along with the system code. As NewtronStar has pointed out that he would not be happy with that situation we are left with a catch 22 situation.

The only clean way forward is the operating code without user data and everyone starts from scratch.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jt999 on March 12, 2018, 09:32:45 AM
It's gone  :(

Thanks again for all your hard work running it! Hope retirement is good!  ;D
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: V_R on March 12, 2018, 09:34:02 AM
...and its gone.  :'(

Once again Thank you Tony for everything you have done, and best of luck to you. :)


@marjohn56: Agree, I was simply suggesting if the option presented itself I would take advantage of it. :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Ronski on March 12, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
Could everyone please make sure that your stats uploads are turned off, for those using HG612 stats you can simply update to the latest GUI version.

Once again, thanks to Tony, enjoy your retirement.

I would also have not minded my stats data being transferred to Chrysalis, but agreed we don't want to create work for Tony or expect him to do it, it's only stats after all, and of course it would have to had been opt in.

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jelv on March 12, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
I'm surprised the website has been totally taken down. I was expecting it to be replaced with a hard link to http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.0.html (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.0.html)

Or perhaps a custom 404 page saying it is closed with the link.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: tbailey2 on March 12, 2018, 12:13:57 PM
That is what I have done by setting up Web Forwarding at the domain Registrar direct to that link which is the quickest and easiest way to do it. But the change takes a while to filter through the DNS system, maybe 24 hours to fully complete (and hopefully work)  :)

Thanks for the further comments and donations.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: LordSven on March 12, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
Dear Tony,
Thank you so much for the time and dedication that you gave to us all through MDWS.
Between Kitz site and forum, DSLstats and yourself you not only educated me in adsl/vdsl technology but
also gave me practical advice and information that has more than doubled my vdsl connection speed.
Bless you sir; enjoy a well earned rest!
LS
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jelv on March 12, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Tony, it doesn't look as if what you have done is going to work.

I've checked that my ISPs DNS is giving the same as ns.123-reg.co.uk. (212.67.202.2) which is 94.136.40.82. That IP is redirects.123-reg.co.uk.

I'd have left the DNS pointing where it is a just put a simple html page:

Code: [Select]
<html>
    <head>
        <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="3;url=http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.0.html/" />
    </head>
    <body>
        <h1>Redirecting in 3 seconds...</h1>
        <p>MyDSLWebStats has now closed - please see <a href="http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.0.html">http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21151.0.html</a> for more information</p>
    </body>
</html>
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: d2d4j on March 12, 2018, 03:02:55 PM
Hi

@jelv I hope you donít mind, but redirect of domain name requires domain name to work

I think you just tried accessing website through IP address, which will default to a holding page for that IP address

You could try clearing your dns cache and web browser cache, then ping the domain to make sure it resolves to new IP address and then browse to it

I could be wrong sorry

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: jelv on March 12, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
http://mydslwebstats.co.uk/ (http://mydslwebstats.co.uk/) has started working now - before it was just sitting for ages on a blank page before failing (I'm well aware that with multiple hosted sites on the same IP you can't access sites by IP!).
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on March 16, 2018, 11:01:19 AM
Thanks Ronski and d2d4j for clearing that up, The database I guess would have personal info mixed into it for each user, and I could not agree for my user data to be copied or placed onto someone else's server without my permission.
just the code not existing data, users would need to reregister
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on March 19, 2018, 09:31:20 PM
Only just set dslstats to stop uploading so sorry if my requests were flooding the server, I have been sidetracked this past month or two.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Tayta on April 24, 2018, 10:09:00 PM
Has any clever member created an alternative setup for us to upload our stats to?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: j0hn on April 25, 2018, 01:08:08 PM
Nope.
No such project is actively being worked on to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: roseway on April 25, 2018, 04:00:17 PM
There are some people quietly working on it, but nothing is in concrete yet. There are some other projects adding capabilities to the DSLstats webserver, see:

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21237.0.html
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21305.0.html
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: boost on May 07, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Today, I was upgrading dslstats on my laptop; 5.9 to 6.5.

I glanced at the MDWS tab and was pleased to see my creds populated. After the upgrade, I noticed the tab was gone. Several seconds elapse as I frantically searched for it... to no avail :P


I can't believe this has shut down tbh. What a huge loss to the xDSL community! It goes without saying, I hope, thank you for looking after it for so long.

Has anyone offered to re-host? Ignoring GDPR for a second, it should be trivial for someone to do? I'll do it if no one else is able to.

Diagnostically, the information/service is too useful to lose, surely? There's likely to be many people out there locked into poor service, MDWS and the strength of the community behind it might be all they have?

GDPR. There's already talk of whitelists for GP surgeries so we're probably a hop skip jump from a full blown farce on that front. Plus, it's designed to stop corporations from taking the pee, not a community trying to help each other out.

Either way, I don't anticipate GDPR to be an issue for me.

Where do we go from here? :)


Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: ejs on May 07, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
It closed in March and you've only noticed now in May? When did you last access MDWS?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: boost on May 08, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Dunno! Set-and-forgot it on an RPI :)

I always hoped my data was contributing to easing the diagnostic process for someone, somewhere, though.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: loonylion on May 08, 2018, 06:58:14 PM
Wonder if AAISP might be interested in weighing in, I'm sure they would find the data useful as if nothing else it gives a view from the other end of the line as it were.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: burakkucat on May 08, 2018, 08:23:31 PM
Wonder if AAISP might be interested in weighing in, I'm sure they would find the data useful as if nothing else it gives a view from the other end of the line as it were.

 :hmm:  Hmm . . . I can see both positives and negatives to that suggestion.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: boost on May 08, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
May as well just rewrite it as an AWS lambda function. The first million requests or so are free, IIRC?

Combine it with some sort of local proxy so it's very obvious to the end user you're grabbing SNR margins and not exfiltrating their card details or something.

Job done? :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: Chrysalis on May 09, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
Today, I was upgrading dslstats on my laptop; 5.9 to 6.5.

I glanced at the MDWS tab and was pleased to see my creds populated. After the upgrade, I noticed the tab was gone. Several seconds elapse as I frantically searched for it... to no avail :P


I can't believe this has shut down tbh. What a huge loss to the xDSL community! It goes without saying, I hope, thank you for looking after it for so long.

Has anyone offered to re-host? Ignoring GDPR for a second, it should be trivial for someone to do? I'll do it if no one else is able to.

Diagnostically, the information/service is too useful to lose, surely? There's likely to be many people out there locked into poor service, MDWS and the strength of the community behind it might be all they have?

GDPR. There's already talk of whitelists for GP surgeries so we're probably a hop skip jump from a full blown farce on that front. Plus, it's designed to stop corporations from taking the pee, not a community trying to help each other out.

Either way, I don't anticipate GDPR to be an issue for me.

Where do we go from here? :)




To me GDPR is the easy part, its not a big deal.

The hard part is the code, sadly Tony didnt want to share it, Stuart and kitz have written some code which me and a few others are hosting online, I have yet to post my own stats as I need to add some security first.

The ideal solution is to have the server generate the graphs which stuart's code is capable off, I do aim to have a service running to replace MDWS but it needs time to get setup.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT - MyDSLWebStats is closing down ...
Post by: boost on May 09, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
Agreed. Well done for trying to get something up and running!

I'm not a coder either but I've managed to hack bits n bobs together in the past.

I guess code sharing is a very personal thing? My tendency is to overshare, lol.

Either way, I'm sure there's no need to borrow code off anyone?
Ideally, the MDWS part of DSLstats should be modular anyway, assuming it will continue to be part of it which I really hope it will. I have no desire to use more than one tool and DSLstats has served me well.

You could, arguably, make the MDWS component, functionally, independent (retaining the tab within DSLstats though, somehow) so there's no sharing of the underlying poll data. This would introduce waste, of course but something to consider if needs must?

I'd be happy to try and help (read: potentially hinder) in some way if I can? My email address is probably in my profile, etc.