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Title: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Bowdon on January 16, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/01/uk-isp-bt-launch-152mbps-314mbps-ultrafast-broadband-packages.html (https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/01/uk-isp-bt-launch-152mbps-314mbps-ultrafast-broadband-packages.html)

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UK internet provider BT has today launched a new range of “ultrafast fibre broadband” packages to support both the latest hybrid fibre G.fast and “full fibre” FTTP technologies, which offer download speeds of up to 152Mbps and 314Mbps. On top of that there’s a 100Mbps “speed guarantee.”

Previously the ISP only offered a 200Mbps (20Mbps upload) and 300Mbps (30Mbps upload) service under the Infinity 3 and 4 tiers respectively, which made use of the operator’s Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) technology. However Openreach has been busy rolling their new hybrid fibre G.fast technology to 1 million UK premises, which forms part of an initial pilot and under ideal circumstances this service can reach a similar top speed.

On top of that Openreach has already moved to streamline the speed profiles of their FTTP and G.fast services in order to make the cost different between their wholesale 160Mbps (up to 152Mbps) and 330Mbps (up to 300Mbps) tiers as small as possible. Today BT have predictably become one of the first ISPs to take advantage of this by launching their new BT ULTRAFAST 1 and 2 packages to harness both G.fast and FTTP for the same price.

So G.fast as now been released in to the wild. It'll be good to get some feedback from anyone who has upgraded to G.fast to get stats, setup and performance information from.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: skyeci on January 16, 2018, 12:51:30 PM
even though a g.fast pod was added over 6 months ago to a family members pcp still not showing as available and it's in the trial area...
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Black Sheep on January 16, 2018, 02:33:13 PM
The trail was still on-going in order to find the best way to deliver a 'brilliant customer experience', before it goes to full launch.

Sit tight, it's not far off now. 
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: NewtronStar on January 16, 2018, 05:55:54 PM
Will Back Sheep take the plunge into G.FAST when it comes knocking on your door ?
£55 a month for ULTRAFAST 1 (152Mbps)
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Black Sheep on January 16, 2018, 06:17:33 PM
Ha ha ..... don't wish to sound al smug-like, but that's one of the perks of working for the company as it is now, (who knows when OR get separated ??) ... is that we get free broadband.

Would I pay £55 for ultrafast ..... not on your Nellie !! My circa 65Mbps is more than enough for our household.  :)

This has been my 'argument' since my time on these boards ...... fantastic speeds are all well and good, if one is prepared to pay the supplement. I personally feel most EU's would be happy with ~50Mbps ... just mho though.  :)
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: 22over7 on January 16, 2018, 06:37:03 PM
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Would I pay £55 for ultrafast ..... not on your Nellie !!

Nor would I. I'm retired and just watch cat-videos. When working remotely via VPN for people in eg Israel, I'd have asked for my employers to pay it. 






Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: NewtronStar on January 16, 2018, 06:38:00 PM
They maybe happy with 50Mbps but on 40Mbps a youtube 4K demo buffers a lot when set to 4K on my system it's fine on HD 1080 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MpUj-Aua48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MpUj-Aua48)

Test it and tell me if works fine for you, could do with a extra 30mbps from Openreach here.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Black Sheep on January 16, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Clicked your link and probably watched 5mins in total (I wish I had 25mins spare, I really do  ;D) with no buffering, and I was 'jumping' forward to different parts of the VT, too.  :)

Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: roseway on January 16, 2018, 07:25:32 PM
That's really lovely. :)
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: kitz on January 16, 2018, 07:43:08 PM
Nice vid.   Watching it at Ultra 4K HD @ 2160p.   :)

When it first start it took 70 Mbps so it got quite a bit ahead.   It then settled at 9 Mbps - presumably because there was >10min of play ahead in the buffer stream.

4k should be able to cope OK with 40Mbps as it requires ~25Mbps.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: adslmax on January 16, 2018, 08:19:13 PM
Far too expensive £55 a month. I am happy to stay with FTTC 74Meg at £26 per month. Don't need faster fibre now.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: NewtronStar on January 16, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
4k should be able to cope OK with 40Mbps as it requires ~25Mbps.

It buffers all the time as soon as I set it to 2160p when using Google Chrome Version 63.0.3239.132 (Official Build) (64-bit), the MS IE 11 only allows up to 1440p.

PS any extra bandwidth is more than welcome from are friends OR but please do not forget about  customers who's lines are further out of reach for G.FAST more work needs to be done for them.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: S.Stephenson on January 16, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Will rollout phases be a thing like last time?

Saves checking roadworks all the time....
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: burakkucat on January 16, 2018, 09:20:33 PM
Will rollout phases be a thing like last time?

I suspect it will be rather like when the G.993.2 (FTTC) service was very new.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: stevebrass on January 16, 2018, 10:02:12 PM
Ha ha ..... don't wish to sound al smug-like, but that's one of the perks of working for the company as it is now, (who knows when OR get separated ??) ... is that we get free broadband.

Would I pay £55 for ultrafast ..... not on your Nellie !! My circa 65Mbps is more than enough for our household.  :)

This has been my 'argument' since my time on these boards ...... fantastic speeds are all well and good, if one is prepared to pay the supplement. I personally feel most EU's would be happy with ~50Mbps ... just mho though.  :)

I agree BS. You are smug 😂! Seriously though I think 50 mbs ds would do us fine. I could do with a bit more us as uploading HD photos can be a pain. My only avenue to beat my FTTC of 15ds and 0.9 us is VM. I suppose 4K might make me jump. For now I’ll stay in the slow lane.


Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Chrysalis on January 17, 2018, 12:46:00 AM
so as I thought, infinity 2 is not becoming g.fast.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Chrysalis on January 17, 2018, 12:48:42 AM
Ha ha ..... don't wish to sound al smug-like, but that's one of the perks of working for the company as it is now, (who knows when OR get separated ??) ... is that we get free broadband.

Would I pay £55 for ultrafast ..... not on your Nellie !! My circa 65Mbps is more than enough for our household.  :)

This has been my 'argument' since my time on these boards ...... fantastic speeds are all well and good, if one is prepared to pay the supplement. I personally feel most EU's would be happy with ~50Mbps ... just mho though.  :)

The people to take this is up is those far from the cabinet with speeds of under 40mbps, however, the idea of not deploying pods closer to the home (for the moment) means the prime target wont be able to get the product.

Also I throttled youtube to 40mbps on pfsense, and the video is fine. :)
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: stevebrass on January 17, 2018, 01:43:04 AM
Watched the 4k on a 19mbs line. Almost instant start and no buffering. Must say I was very impressed with the quality.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: niemand on January 18, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Will rollout phases be a thing like last time?

Saves checking roadworks all the time....

G.fast as deployed so far doesn't involve any roadworks unless the PCP needs a reshell.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Bowdon on January 19, 2018, 01:17:23 PM
Does anyone know someone who as ordered G.fast yet?
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: NewtronStar on January 20, 2018, 09:28:54 PM
Found the issue my CPU is to weak to run 4K on Chrome and it does not utilize the GPU very well taking the CPU to 98% while IE 11 only uses 15% of CPU and rest is being done by the GPU 49% while streaming 4K Video.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: skyeci on January 20, 2018, 10:34:07 PM
Does anyone know someone who as ordered G.fast yet?

enquired as parents cab was g.fast podded many months ago and it's in the trial area. Told still not available to order.. ::)
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Black Sheep on January 21, 2018, 10:55:59 AM
enquired as parents cab was g.fast podded many months ago and it's in the trial area. Told still not available to order.. ::)

I refer the readers back to reply #2 of this thread. The clues are all there.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: gt94sss2 on January 21, 2018, 01:17:32 PM
My parents cab in Wandsworth (one of the trial areas) has gone live in the last week. Sadly, the checker doesn't show it as available to them due to the distance from the cab.

Properties closer to the pod but still on the same road as my parents show G.Fast with 'Amber' listed under WBC FTTC Availability Date. Those near to the PCP just state 'Available' instead.

Would be interesting to know precisely what the 'Amber' means and if its possible that OR will one day replace the line cards with newer versions



Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: burakkucat on January 21, 2018, 06:16:59 PM
Would be interesting to know precisely what the 'Amber' means . . .

My feeling is that it indicates a borderline circuit line length and until it has been tried, the status for a G.9700/9701 (a.k.a. G.Fast) service is unclear.
Title: Re: ISP BT Launch 152Mbps and 314Mbps UK Ultrafast Broadband G.fast
Post by: Ronski on January 21, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
I'm just hoping that the launch of G.Fast will encourage VM to raise their uploads speeds (they certainly seem to be preparing to), as that's going to be far more use to me than G.Fast I expect for years to come.