| IDNet Aquiss Pulse8 Mean 59.7 60.8 64.2 Median 63.6 69.5 66.9 |
IDNet are offering to move the backhaul service from TTB.
From TTB to whom?The last email I had from them suggested BTW, which has confused me as I thought they either used Fluid Data or Zen for backhaul services and consequently BTW only came into play if your cabinet wasn't connected to a Zen PoP, which ours is.
I see, thank you. That is a little puzzling. ???
I think that most of us who take note of "what is going on" will be aware that A&A use both BTW and TTB for backhaul . . . with the latter being slightly more favoured than the former.
Not intending to be provocative but I have to ask the question --
Does the problem with single thread speeds actually stop you making the use of the provided broadband service connecting you to the Internet?
As a fellow scientist, I can now say that I understand your logic. :)
my single tbb matches the multi yes, if its variable 24/7 regardless of peak hours imo it means one off following
1 transit problem between isp and tbb
2 congestion thats persistent all day, if it were this it would still be noticeably worse at peak so unlikely
3 misconfigured traffic shaping at ISP
4 local problem in your network
Can you stick in a rescue OS USB in the imac, boot off it, so you can speedtest using a different OS at its defaults?Have struggled with creating a rescue disk off High Sierra, but have created a bootable install disk and reloaded the OS from there.
Various images come with a browser that can be used so can run speedtests etc.
Hi
Just to add I've not had maximum throughput via Uno (which use TalkTalk) for many, many months on the single thread speed test, regardless of the time day or night, I usually get around 60-64Mbps on the single thread test, with the multi-thread test always ~74Mbps. I know when you first posted about this and I replied I was getting maximum on both types of test, but at some point that changed, although nothing my end has changed.
However playing about with TCP Optimizer https://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php I can improve the single thread speeds back up to almost match the the multi-thread speed, so I don't think it is something being deliberately throttled by TalkTalk, just some interaction between Windows (10 in my case) automatic network settings just not hitting an optimal match against TalkTalk and the site it's connecting to. This may explain why some speed tests are okay and others are not.
Edit: if I test here https://testmy.net/results and use the single thread speed test option I get consistently > 73Mbps, it's only ThinkBroadband's single threaded part of the test that is impacted, which I think was your original issue? I think the problem is with Thinkbroadband and how the test is routed or network parameters and there isn't really any problem at all with the speeds, just the test.
Regards
Phil
Didn't AA have a similar experience with TT at some point? I can't remember.
Would AA suit you? They are very keen on performance monitoring.
I might just try running a few manual tests back to back to see how consistent they are one after another.
You are questioning why you are not getting the speed you were getting from Pulse8. The question not asked (and not possible to answer without trying it) is what speed would you be getting now with Pulse8 if you were still with them? Would it have also degraded?
| IDNet (BTW) IDNet (TTB) Aquiss Pulse8 Mean 69.4 59.6 60.8 64.2 Median 71.1 63.3 69.5 66.9 Std Dev 5.5 10.0 17.5 9.4 |
Btw, this has been said before. AA publish their own congestion figures (http://control.aa.net.uk/congestion.cgi). I don't know if anyone else does. There used to be a detailed table of packets dropped - don't know where that went. Perhaps it is because they are using some Cisco core switches and routers now instead of all Firebrick kit, until the forthcoming high speed Bricks become available.
That in itself is an interesting question, but one that is likely to remain unanswered.
I guess the more fundamental question is whether there was actually any value in changing, especially as I am now paying more per month than with Pulse8.
By way of an update, this Tuesday IDNet transferred my backhaul from TTB to BTW, and although the results aren't absolutely amazing they have resulted in a significant improvement (see attached IDNet scatter plot).
The first couple of days were pretty good, but am seeing some degradation in single thread speeds since yesterday (see attached IDNet BTW scatter plot).
In terms of a straight forward figures analysis, the answer at the moment is that IDNet on a BTW backhaul are still doing better than Pulse8 did in my last few weeks with them.
IDNet (BTW) IDNet (TTB) Aquiss Pulse8
Mean 69.4 59.6 60.8 64.2
Median 71.1 63.3 69.5 66.9
Std Dev 5.5 10.0 17.5 9.4
What I'm really struggling to understand is the variation in TBB single thread speeds on consecutive tests. I always do them in packets of 3 tests and the most recent gave me 72.5, 59.7 & 42.3 Mbps.
Does anybody else see that level of variation? Any guesses why back to back tests should be so different?
I don't think that table shows up unless there's actually a problem. I'm pretty sure I recall seeing such a table at some point in the last few months.
That level of variation does seem a bit large compared to the variation I see on my connection. I'm seeing a variation of no larger than 10 megabits typically (download speed maxing out at around 60 megabits).
This is a recent test I did (via the TTB backhaul):
(https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/button/1516358581545376955.png)
Bear in mind I'm using QoS (fq_codel) on my EdgeRouter.
There's some occasions on other tests where it can be a larger variation though, but when I monitor my own network it's usually when another device is also using the internet for that moment. My ping would normally be much lower but DLM kicked in recently and I don't know what exactly happened but I guess downstream MTBE exceeded the threshold. I've noticed I'm getting large bursts of FEC errors on my DrayTek again, so I'm guessing my original fault is returning (or has become a bit more noticeable now?). I might put the HG612 or Zyxel back on, capped though, to mainly check if the Hlog and QLN have changed... but that's another story.