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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: burakkucat on November 17, 2017, 12:48:47 AM
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I find that the Uno Knowledge base article (https://uno.help/knowledge-base/article/openreach-approved-vdsl-modems) tends to be kept up to date --
Data obtained from --
https://uno.help/knowledge-base/article/openreach-approved-vdsl-modems
Openreach Approved VDSL2 Modem/Routers (MCT).
This is a list of Openreach MCT approved VDSL2 modem/routers.
The list is correct as of 17/10/2017 and will be updated when
Openreach add/remove models from the list.
AVM
FRITZ!Box 3490
Arcadyan
Brightbox 2
Cisco
1921
897VA
C897VA-K9
CISCO887VA-K9
CISCO887VA-M-K9
CISCO887VA-SEC-K9
C887VAM-K9
C887VA-W-E-K9
C887VAM-W-E-K9
C887VA-V-K9
C887VA-V-W-E-K9
C887VA-CUBE-K9
C887VAG+7-K9
C887VAMG+7-K9
C887VAGW+7-E-K9
C887VA-WD-E-K9
C887VAG-4G-GA-K9
C897VA-M-K9
C897VAW-E-K9
C897VAM-W-E-K9
C897VAG-LTE-GA-k9
C897VAMG-LTE-GA-K9
EHWIC-VA-DSL-A
EHWIC-VA-DSL-M
NIM VA
Draytek
Vigor 2860
Vigor 2860vn Plus
Vigor 2860vac
Vigor 2860n
Vigor 2860n Plus
Vigor 2860L
Vigor 2860Ln
Vigor 2860ac
Vigor 2862
Vigor 2760
Vigor 2760vn
Vigor 2760n
Vigor 130
Huawei
HG633
AR129
AR129W
AR129GW-L
AR509G-L-D-H
AR169FVW
AR169FGW-L
AR169FGVW-L
AR169F
Kenton Comtrend
VR-3030
KBR1645 Velocity Lite
Kenton OneAccess
1321 Ethernet Access device
1322 Ethernet Access device
1645 Ethernet Access device
One 270 AV2
One 425 AV2
One 445 AV2
One 540 AV2
One 700 AV2
One 1540 AV2
Netgear
D7000
D7800
Technicolor
TG589Vac
TG579vac v2
TG588v2
TG589Vac v1
TG589Vac v2
TG589vac
TG789Vac v1
TG789Vac v2
TG789vac
DGA1430
Virtual Access
GW33110-V
ZyXEL
VMG8324-B10A
VMG8924 (Z-400UK)
VMG1312-B10A
VMG1312-B10D
VMG3925-B10B
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I'm interested to see that the Technicolor DGA1430 is on the list. It isn't officially available in this country, but there's a thread in this section about getting it and unlocking it for use here, and it's proving to be the best modem/router I've ever used.
[Correction] The model I'm using is the DGA4130, not DGA1430. However, as far as I can see, DGA1430 doesn't exist, so maybe it's a typo in the list.
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Can this be made sticky? would probably help people in finding this sort of info
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There is an article on the main site which also includes the firmwares. - BT Openreach Modem Conformance Test (MCT) (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/MCT.htm)
The new inclusions are the Netgear D7000 & D7800 and the Technicolor DGAx
However its not clear from that Uno list which model of Netgear ie D7000v1 or D7000v2
There is also no such Model as a Technicolor DGA1430 and its possibly a typo. :(
I'll add the Netgear & Technocolor info but I was hoping to get some sort of clarification about the new modems before saying anything further.
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ETA - Done see section ~ List of approved MCT modems (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/MCT.htm#MCT_modem_list)
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Actually not sure whether to merge this thread with the article that appears on front page of the main site about the last MCT update?
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The second Netgear model is actually the D7800, there is no D8000. D7800 and D7000v2 are both Lantiq DSL.
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Cheers
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Here is the latest list, from Uno.
Data obtained from --
https://uno.help/knowledge-base/article/openreach-approved-vdsl-modems
Openreach Approved VDSL2 Modem/Routers (MCT).
This is a list of Openreach MCT approved VDSL2 modem/routers.
The list is correct as of 15/03/2018 and will be updated when
Openreach add/remove models from the list.
Please note, some devices may only be modems which will require
usage of a separate router.
AVM
FRITZ!Box 3490
Arcadyan
Brightbox 2
Cisco
1921
897VA
C897VA-K9
CISCO887VA-K9
CISCO887VA-M-K9
CISCO887VA-SEC-K9
C887VAM-K9
C887VA-W-E-K9
C887VAM-W-E-K9
C887VA-V-K9
C887VA-V-W-E-K9
C887VA-CUBE-K9
C887VAG+7-K9
C887VAMG+7-K9
C887VAGW+7-E-K9
C887VA-WD-E-K9
C887VAG-4G-GA-K9
C897VA-M-K9
C897VAW-E-K9
C897VAM-W-E-K9
C897VAG-LTE-GA-k9
C897VAMG-LTE-GA-K9
EHWIC-VA-DSL-A
EHWIC-VA-DSL-M
NIM VA
Draytek
Vigor 2862Ln
Vigor 2860
Vigor 2860vn Plus
Vigor 2860vac
Vigor 2860n
Vigor 2860n Plus
Vigor 2860L
Vigor 2860Ln
Vigor 2860ac
Vigor 2862
Vigor 2760
Vigor 2760vn
Vigor 2760n
Vigor 2762
Vigor 130
2862ac
2862L
2862n
Huawei
HG633
AR129
AR129W
AR129GW-L
AR509G-L-D-H
AR169FVW
AR169FGW-L
AR169FGVW-L
AR169F
Kenton Comtrend
VR-3030
KBR1645 Velocity Lite
Kenton OneAccess
1321 Ethernet Access device
1322 Ethernet Access device
1645 Ethernet Access device
One 270 AV2
One 425 AV2
One 445 AV2
One 540 AV2
One 700 AV2
One 1540 AV2
Netgear
D7000
D7800
Technicolor
TG589Vac
TG579vac v2
TG588 v2
TG588v v2
TG589Vac v1
TG589Vac v2
TG589vac
TG789Vac v1
TG789Vac v2
TG789vac
DGA1430
DGA2231
Virtual Access
GW33110-V
ZyXEL
VMG8324-B10A
VMG8924 (Z-400UK)
VMG1312-B10A
VMG1312-B10D
VMG3925-B10B
VMG3925-B10Bv5.13
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Oh dear. My BT supplied HG612 is not on the list. Should I be concerned?
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Nor is any member of the Billion tribe. Does that mean they are non compliant?
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My Netgear is not there either.
Stuart
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Asus are noticeable by their absence although I've been led to believe the DSL-AC88U is being put forward to be accredited.
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b*cat joins in the fun . . . I see that the Openreach badged ECI B-FOCuS /r device is not on the list. ::)
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As the main site (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/MCT.htm) states these lists usually come with text along the lines of:
Modems listed below do not include some ISP specific devices such as the BT HomeHub or Sky Hub which will have been submitted by the ISPs themselves.
This also helps explain why the ECI B-FOCuS and HG612B are not listed given they were OR issued.
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Thanks B*cat. Not really much new only the Cisco 1921 series and a f/w update for the VMG3925-B10B
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Oh dear. My BT supplied HG612 is not on the list. Should I be concerned?
b*cat joins in the fun . . . I see that the Openreach badged ECI B-FOCuS /r device is not on the list. ::)
As the main site (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/MCT.htm) states these lists usually come with text along the lines of:
Correct, the list is for modems submitted by manufacturers direct to Openreach. SP submitted modems never get included on the list.
Nor is any member of the Billion tribe. Does that mean they are non compliant?
Billion submitted a couple of their modems and they failed. From memory they were the 8800 series, particularly surprising was the failure of the 8800NL :(
Last I heard was that Billion were given the chance to re-submit after making some changes to the f/w, but never did.
Asus are noticeable by their absence although I've been led to believe the DSL-AC88U is being put forward to be accredited.
I have hopes that this one may pass. :fingers: :fingers: ASUS appear to have moved over to using a BCM chip and from what I have seen this particular modem does seem to perform quite well on the line. TBH I hope it does pass because atm, its about one of the few viable alternatives for use with g.Fast.
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ASUS appear to have moved over to using a BCM chip and from what I have seen this particular modem does seem to perform quite well on the line. TBH I hope it does pass because atm, its about one of the few viable alternatives for use with g.Fast.
I thought one of the big issues preventing Asus from passing MCT was their unwillingness/refusal to alter their firmware to remove certain options such as UPBO that OR did not want consumers to have.
It will be interesting to see if their attitude has changed re:g,fast. If not, I am sure other manufacturers will be available shortly - certainly by the time I can get g.fast!
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I wouldnt worry billion owners, if the ASUS isnt even banned for all the tricks it does, then the 8800 series modems are not going to get banned.
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.....Billion submitted a couple of their modems and they failed. From memory they were the 8800 series, particularly surprising was the failure of the 8800NL :(
Last I heard was that Billion were given the chance to re-submit after making some changes to the f/w, but never did......
Is anything known about the reasons for failure, and/or the modification required? I'm thinking 'no'!
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What we know is that zyxel devices have newer broadcom drivers, zyxel dont seem to have much of an issue updating firmware for their devices whilst billion seems very conservative about it, one firmware had a problem reported and got pulled very quickly as an example, I dont think that firmware ever got re-released.
So a possible reason is that the newer zyxel firmware complies with what openreach want, from observation on my line I know my zyxel devices have a high UPBO than my 8800nl, skyeci also confirmed the same on his line as well.
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So a possible reason is that the newer zyxel firmware complies with what openreach want, from observation on my line I know my zyxel devices have a high UPBO than my 8800nl, skyeci also confirmed the same on his line as well.
This may be drifting off-topic...but by higher UPBO do you mean that the zyxel reduced the power more or that the power was higher? (I'm interested because I have a Billion 8900AX and my US sync is very low at a little over 500k, so even a bit more power could make a significant difference)
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I thought one of the big issues preventing Asus from passing MCT was their unwillingness/refusal to alter their firmware to remove certain options such as UPBO that OR did not want consumers to have.
The rogue UPBO options are on their Mediatek chipset devices. They wouldn't pass in a million years.
The DSL-AC88U has a Broadcom chipset, and therefore none of the rogue options the DSL-AC68U has.
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They claimed they did pass equivalent testing: http://www.econet-inc.com/en/1_1_newsview.php?news_id=103
(The tests in NICC ND1436 being a copy of those in BT SIN 498).
And somehow Origin Broadband appear to provide an Asus DSL-N16 as standard, with the option to buy a DSL-AC68U instead.
I don't think any of the tests cover configurability. You could turn off G.INP or SRA with the xdslctl command.
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This may be drifting off-topic...but by higher UPBO do you mean that the zyxel reduced the power more or that the power was higher? (I'm interested because I have a Billion 8900AX and my US sync is very low at a little over 500k, so even a bit more power could make a significant difference)
the zyxel reduced it more aka higher error rates and lower snr.
upbo shouldnt be applicable on your line with that speed