Post by: Deathstar on October 07, 2017, 09:54:15 AM
Currently I have the one box solution for my VDSL connection using an Asus DSL-AC68U. However as much as a great router for WiFi, I feel the modem is not as robust as I would like. Plus I've not found a way to export and log the router stats. (Recently had issues with RFI, now solved (homeplug issue)).
I want to keep my Asus, but I would like a dedicated modem where I can log and export stats so I can monitor my line and help with diagnosis in the future. Thanks
So what would you recommend?
I'm currently watching an H612 on the bay of flea's, but is there anything else I should be aware of?
I do have a pair of ECI modems, even though I believe I am on a Huawei DSLAM.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by: kitz on October 07, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
If you are watching e-bay, other modems to perhaps look out for any good deals on are the Zyxels and Billion 8800NL which can be used as modem only - see Zyxel bridge mode (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm).
The caveat with the HG612's is that they have been around a while now and its highly unlikely there will be any f/w updates as far as stats go.
Personally I prefer the Zyxels with the BCM63168 chipset which for most lines perform better than the HG612. I also have a VMG1312-B10D which has a BCM 63381 and whilst it doesn't quite perform as well as my VMG8324-B10A, it still does a decent job about on a par with the HG612.
I'm sure others will also add their thoughts :)
http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/BCM_routers
Post by: burakkucat on October 07, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
It might also be worthwhile taking a look at what is available here (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/board,52.0.html).
Post by: Deathstar on October 07, 2017, 07:23:46 PM
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Post by: banger on October 07, 2017, 07:54:36 PM
Post by: 22over7 on October 07, 2017, 11:49:45 PM
(EDITED: to clarify. I said "router", but meant "modem". My point, below, is that if you have a noisy line,
modem A might be better than modem B, but it could be vice versa on a clean line.)
Although I am crow-flies quite close (200m?) to my PCP/DSLAM, my line goes "round the houses", and connects to my premises
from the last of 2 poles. I'd guess this is far from ideal, and my line hoovers up copious noise of various kinds en route to my modem.
Currently, after a fortnight spell using a VMG1312-B10D, I have INP of 52, INT of 8, and various other ugly
numbers, despite capping my line to 72 Mbit down and 16 down. Not only are the figures ugly, but also the graphs of
eg SNRM/DS. A couple of days ago I switched back to a Huawei HG612. The figures are still ugly, but the various graphs
on MyDslWebStats are now, to my untutored eye, relatively pretty. It seems consistent with my observations that the HG612 handles
a dodgy line better than a VMG1312-B10D. It could well be the other way round for a sane line. (Mine insane line was sold to BT for
about 6 old pence in the 80's.)
I am going to try substituting a VMG1312-B10A in a few weeks. I have a feeling, or hope, in my waters (based on
various posts in these forums) that this will improve things; but no certainty. Anyone interested in my experiments is welcome
to look at SandReck's data on MyDslWebStats. I believe so far that in my particular case, the HG612 hands-down beats the VMG1312-B10D.
In MyDslWebstats, the historical data shows what looks to me like a remarkable improvement late on Oct 5.)
I'm far from an expert on such things.
Post by: Deathstar on October 08, 2017, 10:10:03 AM
For me, a modem creates the physical link, where as a router then routes the traffic around a network.
So based on that, I am looking for something that provides a good fast stable physical link and robust enough not to drop at the wind changing direction.
I'm running at 47, with an expected of 60.
O fastpath, but without G.INP.
Had a recent reset due to REIN (cause found!).
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Post by: Deathstar on October 08, 2017, 10:56:17 AM
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Post by: Deathstar on October 18, 2017, 07:14:00 PM
My experience, for what it (little) is worth, is that the question "what modem is best?" depends on your line.Thanks for the clarification.
(EDITED: to clarify. I said "router", but meant "modem". My point, below, is that if you have a noisy line,
modem A might be better than modem B, but it could be vice versa on a clean line.)
Although I am crow-flies quite close (200m?) to my PCP/DSLAM, my line goes "round the houses", and connects to my premises
from the last of 2 poles. I'd guess this is far from ideal, and my line hoovers up copious noise of various kinds en route to my modem.
Currently, after a fortnight spell using a VMG1312-B10D, I have INP of 52, INT of 8, and various other ugly
numbers, despite capping my line to 72 Mbit down and 16 down. Not only are the figures ugly, but also the graphs of
eg SNRM/DS. A couple of days ago I switched back to a Huawei HG612. The figures are still ugly, but the various graphs
on MyDslWebStats are now, to my untutored eye, relatively pretty. It seems consistent with my observations that the HG612 handles
a dodgy line better than a VMG1312-B10D. It could well be the other way round for a sane line. (Mine insane line was sold to BT for
about 6 old pence in the 80's.)
I am going to try substituting a VMG1312-B10A in a few weeks. I have a feeling, or hope, in my waters (based on
various posts in these forums) that this will improve things; but no certainty. Anyone interested in my experiments is welcome
to look at SandReck's data on MyDslWebStats. I believe so far that in my particular case, the HG612 hands-down beats the VMG1312-B10D.
In MyDslWebstats, the historical data shows what looks to me like a remarkable improvement late on Oct 5.)
I'm far from an expert on such things.
May go for the HG, as you can pick them up cheap. Then move to the Zyxel.
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Post by: machare on October 19, 2017, 07:37:03 PM
May go for the HG, as you can pick them up cheap. Then move to the Zyxel.
The Zyxel's are also quite cheap on ebay.