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Computers & Hardware => Networking => Topic started by: bigbig on September 28, 2017, 02:27:36 PM

Title: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: bigbig on September 28, 2017, 02:27:36 PM
Hello

first of all i'm not located in the uk. but i need isp ip in my home computer.
I need to reach web application that require uk ip.
Tried using few VPN's and proxy but it seems the web application blocking them somehow.
for now i'm using Team viewer to a VM on friend's house. but i'm looking for permanent solution.
of course i have no problem paying for this kind of service / solution.

Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Dray on September 28, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
I need to reach web application that require uk ip.
What is the web application?
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Ronski on September 28, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
If your friend has a decent connection get him to setup a VPN for you and use that.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: bigbig on September 28, 2017, 06:08:19 PM
If your friend has a decent connection get him to setup a VPN for you and use that.

continue using his connection will not be possible anymore.
need someone else or direct connection to ISP or different solution i didn't think about.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: psychopomp1 on October 01, 2017, 10:50:29 AM
Two solutions for you OP:

Easy Peasy Solution

Buy a new standalone router which supports L2TP VPN authentication - vast majority do, eg Netgear. Plug that router into a free LAN port on your existing router overseas. Subscribe to a VPN service (i highly recommend vpn.ac its the connoisseur's choice  :P) and establish a new L2TP connection on the new router using your VPN credentials and a UK server address supplied by your VPN provider, eg uk1.vpn.ac. You will now get a UK IP address permanently provided all your devices are connected to the new router.

Not so easy Solution
If your existing router (eg Asus) supports OpenVPN or PPTP VPN routing then no need to buy a new router and you can route all your traffic within the router to your VPN (using a UK server of course).. However OpenVPN, whilst extremely secure, can be a pain to setup at router level and often you will find there's a severe speed loss. PPTP and L2TP have less overheads so will give you better speeds. IMHO L2TP is a good balance between speed v security, PPTP isn't that secure but is the fastest VPN protocol.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: phi2008 on October 01, 2017, 10:56:24 AM
Commercial VPN services often get their IPs blacklisted/tagged - sometimes for abuse, sometimes to enforce geo-fencing. Another alternative is to use a UK based VPS(Virtual Private Server) as a VPN server/proxy - less likely to get blacklisted and they're also cheap(5/month?).
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: psychopomp1 on October 01, 2017, 01:39:22 PM
I agree, IPs of VPNs can get blacklisted but from my experience its usually the free VPN services which get blacklisted due to the sheer number of users. Paid for VPN services keeps the freeloaders at bay so the risk is less. Having said that, a good VPN provider will give you an alternative (usually unadvertised) server address should you find their regular IP address blocked.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Chrysalis on October 01, 2017, 01:59:48 PM
agree with phi2008, get a vps, install your own vpn, far less likely to be a vpn tagged ip.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: bigbig on October 01, 2017, 02:47:27 PM
thank you guys for the suggestions.
already tried few paid VPN service with dedicated uk ip and didn't work. VPS might work but i'm afraid it will not last for long plus very difficult to configure by myself .
i think they are using this site http://getipintel.net to check the ip.
i read online about DD-WRT router. i think this can be good solution if someone have it.
anyone up to the task? (will be happy to pay for your internet bill and use my name for the bill if you worried)
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Dray on October 01, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
What is the web application you want to use?
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: bigbig on October 01, 2017, 03:18:18 PM
What is the web application you want to use?
it's irrelevant to the issue and prefer not say it over open forum.
of course all will be shown/explained on private if someone can help.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: bigbig on October 01, 2017, 03:30:46 PM
It sounds like what you're trying to do is illegal, therefore reported
Thank you for your contribution for this issue. you are the real deal
as i suggested i have no problem that my name will be there for the bill or anything else
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: kitz on October 01, 2017, 03:47:50 PM
Your offer to pay the ISP bills seems rather strange, when the monthly cost for the cheapest vdsl line is going to be 19.99 pm, when VPS can be obtained much cheaper.   
Nor do I recommend setting up a VPN for someone else who you do not know to use. Putting the bill in someone else's name is also very risky because its you that is going to be residing at the address of the fixed line, nvm sorting out things such as paying the direct debit via a bank account.

This site does not condone use of VPN for illegal purposes and as such this thread is locked.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: kitz on October 01, 2017, 08:04:36 PM
OK.  The information supplied seems a plausible explanation.  I can see the OP is coming from where he says he is and he was more than willing to supply further evidence.

I can see why perhaps he may wish to continue visiting a site he previously was a member of, but which now blocks IPs from the country he is now in.
Its tricky and I don't intend to get mixed up in anything which would be considered illegal or even to defraud which is why I will not condone the suggestion of taking out a service in the name of another, because that IMHO is giving false information to obtain a service and therefore fraudulent.

I suspect the OPs only option would be to go for a VPS.

I will re-open this thread if anyone has anything further to add, but I will not and cannot condone taking out a line in someone else's name, nor any discussions of.   
It is also dangerous for anyone to set up a VPN on your own line for someone who you don't know and give them access because if they did do something wrong, then you could find yourself liable,  so I don't condone that either.
INAL and therefore don't fully understand something that even the country itself isn't totally clear on, but IMHO it could be dubious if money exchanged hands to access say for example a gaming site.

I don't know enough about VPN myself so if anyone has anything else they wish to add then feel free, but I recommend that you keep things open and above board to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: kitzuser87430 on October 01, 2017, 08:30:50 PM
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/general/f/4566931-seeking-to-rent-remote-dsl-connection-in-uk.html (http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/general/f/4566931-seeking-to-rent-remote-dsl-connection-in-uk.html)

@Kitz for further information....Mr S over TBB deleted bigbig's post.

Ian
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: kitz on October 01, 2017, 08:58:27 PM
>> Saffy deleted

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deleted as advertising and not comfortable with people doing this.

Thanks k.u. I wasnt aware of that.
 
Both Eric and I were simultaneously dealing with moderation at same time.  I locked but the OP explained more info to Eric - he definitely isn't advertising.  Just in another country now trying to access another site where he is already a member.
 
Whilst I definitely do object to trying to him offering to pay for a UK line (which is possibly the secondary reason Saffy deleted after advertising) because as I mentioned above I considered that fraud..  or asking for someone in the UK to set up a VPN for him..  which is a liability on the line holder.  Saffy also suggested a VPS or VPN of which I have no objection to discussing as in open forum & as long as no money exchanges hands.

Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Chrysalis on October 02, 2017, 07:29:24 AM
Yeah my only further comment is that the IP scoring service is not very reliable, it considers a broadband IP I put in as a confirmed VPN,proxy (scored 1), likewise with a unused ip from one of my vps's. It is possible the vps ip could have been used by someone else prior to me getting it, but I have had it for over 3 years now, which would mean they dont clean their database.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: kitz on October 02, 2017, 11:14:11 AM
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the IP scoring service is not very reliable,

Out of interest I put in a few Plusnet IPs (static & dynamic) which scored between .93 & .95 which is pretty high for valid broadband accounts 

My server IP which has never been used for VPN scored 1.  I wonder if they are using AS numbers to identify webhosts from the IP.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: WWWombat on October 02, 2017, 12:41:35 PM
I also tried with Plusnet static and VPS server IPs. Same result as @kitz

I've had those for 6 years, and never used as proxy or VPN
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: highpriest on November 06, 2017, 02:39:13 AM
I achieve something similar using an IKEv2 site-to-site IPsec VPN between a Raspberry Pi 3 at home and a VPS in a different country. In my case, however, I live in the UK and my requirement is to have traffic from certain devices on my LAN to automatically go over the VPN and egress from a different country.

It's a bit complicated and fiddly to set up, and it took me a while to get to grips with IPsec, but it works a treat.

I have a /24 network at home and a smaller subset of it (a /28) is included in the "encryption domain" of the VPN and gets automatically routed over the VPN if devices with those IPs use the Raspberry Pi as their default gateway. Simple as that.

To achieve that, I set up static reservations for those devices on my DHCP server (in the EdgeRouter):

Code: [Select]
static-mapping PS3 {
    ip-address 192.168.1.33
    mac-address fc:0f:e6:cf:57:8d
    static-mapping-parameters "option routers 192.168.1.7;"
}

As you can see, that reservation get a different default gateway, 192.168.1.7 (IP address of the RPi), instead of 192.168.1.1, which is my EdgeRouter, which is the default gateway for all other devices at home.

The subnet for the encryption domain is 192.168.1.32/28 (192.168.1.33 - 192.168.1.46 usable). I used the auto=route option in ipsec.conf which installs kernel traps that automatically bring the VPN up when it detects traffic between the left and right subnets (in case the SA is not up).

In your case, all you need is a VPS in the UK (around $5 a month) and a 30 Raspberry Pi (or any capable router or Linux machine). I tried various commercial VPN providers, even the really big ones, and their IP addresses were always easily detected by various content providers as a VPN exit point. Some people have reported better success by purchasing a dedicated static IP from VPN providers, which tends to be outside of their usual VPN pools, but YMMV.

If you need more details, let me know :)
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Chunkers on November 06, 2017, 05:24:04 AM
A side note, but relevant in a generic sense, I work internationally and away from home frequently.  In the past I have tried using VPN from various places (hotels etc) to my home in order gain access to UK content. I stopped doing this pretty quickly because it annoyed the family at home - the upstream bandwidth wasn't enough to make it work very well and it caused internet-sadness amongst the teenage population.

Currently I am in Egypt, and like in many countries, the internet is censored here and this includes the blocking of VPN services (https://www.reddit.com/r/Egypt/comments/6d95me/help_vpns_in_egypt_blocked/) and recently they began blocking more VPN services.

Content piracy in most forms here is absolutely rife - which you can kind of understand when you know how poor many people are, illegal streaming and copying are very common.

I have no idea what the OP wanted to do, or where he / she might have been from but obviously allowing someone to "hire" your phone line would be a super-bad idea!  :police: :police:

Cheers big ears!

C
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: highpriest on November 06, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
I stopped doing this pretty quickly because it annoyed the family at home - the upstream bandwidth wasn't enough to make it work very well and it caused internet-sadness amongst the teenage population.

Hence the VPS :)

Most $5 plans give you 1TB of transfer each month. Scaleway offers 200 Mbps unmetered, but they only have 2 locations atm.
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: Chunkers on November 06, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
Hence the VPS :)

Most $5 plans give you 1TB of transfer each month. Scaleway offers 200 Mbps unmetered, but they only have 2 locations atm.

My problem is typically that I want to get TV I have recorded from my house to me and the connection from my house to the internet is 1Mb.

So now I just use Dropbox and traffic management on my router to limit the speed down to a point where it doesn't affect anyone at home and it just means it takes me 24 hours to upload Match of the Day, which is fine.....

C
Title: Re: VPN to UK Isp - how to do it
Post by: highpriest on November 06, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
But wouldn't it be better to stream it from iPlayer direct? If you have a VPS based VPN, that is.