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Title: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: phi2008 on August 22, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
Quite interesting  :) -

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Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: Bowdon on August 22, 2017, 02:06:37 PM
Interesting video and great they have commercially released it.

I noticed in the video he says its FTTN (fibre to the node). It sounds abit like G.fast when its finally pushed out to the pole, which will have a node on it.

If I'm wrong in that thought let me know?
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: phi2008 on August 22, 2017, 02:33:25 PM
Think FTTN typically means FTTC VDSL in regards to NBN.
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: Black Sheep on August 22, 2017, 02:48:28 PM
The Aussies, like us .... are very much into the G.Fast technology as well. I wish I could post a link to it, but it was in that report that I linked to on another site that costs a grand and a half to access !!!  :o ???
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: ktz392837 on August 22, 2017, 03:18:04 PM
Video showed what looked like fibre cable into his router though so isn't that fttp?  Strange?
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: WWWombat on August 22, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
This installation looks like it is FTTP, but NBN has others types (the presenter mention HFC too).

Wider Context:

NBN Co is a single NGA network provider, but uses different technology in different areas:
- FTTP
- FTTN, which uses vectored VDSL2, on existing copper. Rather like our FTTC.
- FTTB, which uses hardware similar to FTTN I think
- HFC, which is cable running DOCSIS
- Wireless
- Satellite (NBN launched 2 satellites for this)

Aussie copper cabling is done using pillars; the nodes in FTTN tend to be slightly closer to homes than our cabs, so lines are a little shorter.

NBN are looking at G.Fast too, with Adtran.

I understand the cable network part isn't as good as they expected, so they will replace parts of it. I suspect this is where G.Fast comes in.

Main NBN packages:
- 100/40 (up to for FTTN, FTTB; not wireless or satellite)
- 50/20 (up to for FTTN, FTTB, wireless; not satellite; ignored by a lot of ISPs)
- 25/5
- 12/1

There are 3 package with higher speed for FTTP only, up to 1000/400. Takeup is miniscule on all 3 (about 0.01%).

Subscriber Counts:
- FTTP = 1.1m
- FTTN = 0.9m
- Wireless = 190k
- HFC = 150k
- Satellite = 75k
- FTTB = 60k

Coverage Counts:
- Fixed = 4.7m
- Wireless = 533k
- Satellite = 418k

Takeup
- On FTTP, about 15% take 100/40, while 80% take either 12/1 or 25/5.
- On FTTN, about 10% take 100/40, while 85% take either 12/1 or 25/5.
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: burakkucat on August 22, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
The provided facts were interesting, however the video itself was ten minutes too long.  :-X
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: RealAleMadrid on August 22, 2017, 08:14:19 PM
The guy in the video is Dave Jones who hosts EEVblog and he does like to talk a lot. :)
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: burakkucat on August 22, 2017, 10:05:36 PM
The guy in the video is Dave Jones who hosts EEVblog and he does like to talk a lot. :)

Ah, so that is his name. Thank you for providing the identification, thus saving me from searching.  :)
Title: Re: Australian finally gets NBN Internet installed ...
Post by: WWWombat on August 23, 2017, 01:02:48 PM
The provided facts were interesting, however the video itself was ten minutes too long.  :-X

Agreed, but his excitement it almost infectious, isn't it?

I remember feeling the same way over installing the initial broadband I had, and almost the same way over getting the first FTTC.

Nowadays, it has fallen back to just being a tool to be used.