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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: portishead350 on August 01, 2017, 12:45:14 PM
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Hi all.
I've decided to have a go at fibre and upgrade from standard bb to fibre optic. (plusnet)
According to the checks on here I am 2.98 km direct and 4 km by road from the exchange and currently I get a pretty pathetic 2-3mb dl speed.
Now, according to the checks I 'may' with fibre get somewhere in the region of 19mb to 26mbps. That's a pretty huge theoretical leap in speed and life changing I might add ;D.
So, what I am wondering is, if I get fttc and assuming the cabinet is perhaps half way between me and the exchange ???
Will this little extra 2km of FTTC from the exchange really give me an increase of around 20mbps ? Or am I missing something??
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"Will this little extra 2km of FTTC from the exchange really give me an increase of around 20mbps ??"
Not sure what that means but to put it in simple terms ........... ADSL (The Broadband you are on now), is fed over copper cable direct from the Exchange, the maximum you can get on this product is 24Mbps. The further you are away from the Exchange the less you will see of the 24Mbps.
VDSL (or Fibre To The Cab), see the broadband signal start its journey at a green box (Cabinet) somewhere between you and the Exchange. The speeds available on this product (Downstream) are 'Up to' ... 18, 40,55 and 80Meg. The speed you will receive, ie: as in the estimate they have given you, is based on the distance from the Cabinet to your premises, as this is what it says on the tin 'Fibre To The Cab' ........ the broadband still uses the copper cable from the Cab to the premises. :)
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So what I am saying is - I currently get bb on copper cable from the exchange through to my house .
So with fibre , there must be a cab somewhere half way or so between me and the exchange. Half of this connection then will still be copper to my house.
So the other half from the cab back to the exchange is fibre - About 1.5km /2km ish
So, by upgrading to fibre, what I am asking is - Does that initial '1.5km' really make this massive difference of around 20mbps
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The Cab isn't necessarily half-way between you and the Exchange. It could quite feasibly be outside your front door.
But yes, in layman's terms, it is this distance from the Cab to your premises that dictate the speed you will eventually receive. If you GOOGLE 'VDSL speed v distance graphs' ..... there will be something lurking that gives an idea of what to expect.
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if you read the instructions on this page (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/cabinet-lookup.htm#pcp) You should be able to identify/locate your local PCP cabinet.
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Looks like I may be a bit late, but entering your number in the DSLchecker (http://dslchecker.bt.com/) it will show your cabinet number, and then follow the steps shown elsewhere on this site (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/cabinet-lookup.htm) to find the cabinet,
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Thanks guys . Yes I was going to say that the cab could be anywhere in the stretch. And I guess that could make a huge difference.
So it's cab 9.
Cant locate cabinet 9. Have to go out on foot!
However, The tests here indicate it's VDSL range B impacted which worries me now. It could be a rubbish signal coming through. I guess Ill have to wait and see. ..
TAlk about a postcode lottery . :o
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What telephone Exchange are you connected to, I'll tell you where Cab9 is ??.
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Why do you think its an impacted line? If your internal wiring is OK there should be no problem assuming no aluminium cable on your line. If the checker says you are on a Market B exchange that is something else and nothing to do with FTTC speeds.
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I used this link http://dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.TelephoneNumberOutput
I have a feeling I mistook MARKET B for VDSL RANGE B which means impacted.
And I am on Portishead exchange ........
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The Cab is in the vicinity, at the junction of ........... Down Road / Highfield Dv/ Nore Rd.
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Good news it's a Huawei cab :)
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Voila !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4742421,-2.8051609,3a,37.5y,261.81h,72.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svt41TAzaxUnfcxoWj262tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4742421,-2.8051609,3a,37.5y,261.81h,72.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svt41TAzaxUnfcxoWj262tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
And a Huawei cab.. Awsome......... Because....... it's made by the Chinese ??????? ? :dance:
0.5 of a mile . Should be good??
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...and not ECI which don't work as well :)
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Fantastic. No more buffering utube music!!! ;D
Finally should be able to try my 4k tv lol. Only been a year ...
Youve been great help guys . Thank you
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It's awesome because it's far superior to the alternative model DSLAM that OpenReach use.
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So how far from the cab are you?
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It's awesome because it's far superior to the alternative model DSLAM that OpenReach use.
Oh excellent . That's great then.
I guess by google street, 0.5mile. 2 miles from the exchange.
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Now, according to the checks I 'may' with fibre get somewhere in the region of 19mb to 26mbps. That's a pretty huge theoretical leap in speed and life changing I might add ;D.
Depending on the ISP, some quote the Range A(clean line) figures from the DSL Checker, some quote the Range B (impacted line) figures.
If you have a "clean line" then you should get somewhere in the Range A bracket, despite what the ISP quote you.
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Voila !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4742421,-2.8051609,3a,37.5y,261.81h,72.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svt41TAzaxUnfcxoWj262tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4742421,-2.8051609,3a,37.5y,261.81h,72.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svt41TAzaxUnfcxoWj262tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Your link, above, brings up an image of the PCP. To see its "fibre twin", rotate by ninety degrees anteclockwise and look across to the junction with Highfield Drive. There you will see the cabinet, equipped with a Huawei SmartAX MA5603T MSAN (operating just as a DSLAM). :)
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That's the kiddie. I best wander up and dust off the cobwebs and clean the weeds away to make sure she's in good order.
Oh God, today the router arrived. Wife says it looks like a pharmacy pill box with a big plus on the front. She's right.
And she's not happy.
Why don't they put a bit of contemporary art into these things that go into every house in the world.
I best find a place to discreetly hide it away.
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Oh God, today the router arrived. Wife says it looks like a pharmacy pill box with a big plus on the front. She's right.
And she's not happy.
Oh dear. "Senior management" has indicated her disapproval. :-X
Would she have a bottle of black nail-varnish, for example, the contents of which you would be allowed to use to paint the front of the offending device? :-\
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Wife says it looks like a pharmacy pill box with a big plus on the front.
That made me laugh. I see her point!
(https://www.broadbandchoices.co.uk/remote/cc-umbraco-images.s3.amazonaws.com/bc/NewsImages/plusnet-hub-one-front.jpg.ashx?width=304&height=171)
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What is that router and does it support G.Inp?
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Well I mean surely to God They can mould plastic to a decent shape. They are in every home now. They make millions of them. I know it's included in the price but seriously...
And g.inp......I'm just getting into fibre so someone else can chime in on that as I don't know if it is or what that is.
Bring on your worst router pics!!
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I'm still laughing. :lol: :lol:
I hope you dont mind portishead, but I shared it on Facebook because I found it so amusing.
https://www.facebook.com/Kitz.co.uk/posts/909635352508031
What is that router and does it support G.Inp?
Its basically a customised HH5A
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Share away!
Good one...
So is it a g.inp? << Hopefully it means it will work from the shed :D
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Downstream yes - which is what matters most.
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Its basically a customised HH5A
My experience of the HH5A is that it didn't appear to support G.Inp as it synced at a lower speed than either a HH5B or a Huawei HG612.
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Says sagemcom on it
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From the PN Forum this week
VDSL customers get a Sagemcom Hub One (rebadged BT Home Hub 5 type A). Dual band AC wifi with gigabit ethernet ports. Lantiq SoC, with Atheros wifi.
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My experience of the HH5A is that it didn't appear to support G.Inp as it synced at a lower speed than either a HH5B or a Huawei HG612.
According to Openreach it does for downstream. I think the lower speeds is probably a result of the lantiq chipset. The others use BCM chipsets.
Ive never used a HH5A, but when using a TDW-9980 which has the same VRX268 chip my speeds can be 5~8Mbps lower... and that's despite me being on an ECI cab.
Says sagemcom on it
Yes, the HH5A is manufactured by Sagemcom - link (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15108.msg281148.html#msg281148)
The HomeHub 5A contains a Lantiq VRX268 chipset (Same as the ECI modem) and manufactured by Sagemcom.