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Computer Software => Linux => Topic started by: Chunkers on February 23, 2017, 04:04:13 PM

Title: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: Chunkers on February 23, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
I have been fiddling with Linux for a lot of years and usually have my work laptop setup to dual boot into Ubuntu so I can pretend its not a work laptop and to keep personal stuff separate  >:D.

When Ubuntu crapped itself due to my dodgey drive caddy (happens sometimes) instead of just reinstalling Ubuntu I thought I would man-up be a smart arse and install Arch Linux (https://www.archlinux.org/), cos thats what all the awesome geeks do ... isn't it.

Context : go to Google and type in the search window "Why is Arch Linux "

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/Jolltax/Crap/archlinuxhardtoinstall_zpsnmafmdhd.png)



I decided to install in Virtualbox to give it a try first, 4 evenings later I finally got the gnome desktop to fire up for the first time  :-[

All I am saying is after all this crap, it had better be good ........ YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BEAT ME ARCHLINUX <bangs table>

Anyway, their website needs fixing :

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/Jolltax/Crap/arch%20is%20hard_zpstdc15ykl.png)

Just sayin'

Chunks
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: roseway on February 23, 2017, 04:44:47 PM
I recently installed Manjaro (Arch with added user-friendliness) and found it a delight to install and use. I had tried Arch, but decided it was too much hard work, whereas Manjaro has all the capability without the bother.
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: broadstairs on February 23, 2017, 05:49:59 PM
I originally use Mandriva, then PCLinux, next Fedora and finally openSUSE. None of them were hard to install moved around mainly because of issues with update schedules, not fast enough for me in many cases. Now use openSUSE Tumbleweed which is close to bleeding edge.

Stuart
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: parkdale on February 23, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
Have you tried this one  :graduate: , I've tried lots of distros (in fact I still have release 1 of Linux on a floppy some where) Redhat, Suse, Ubuntu and it's variants, but this one goes great on an Intel Atom 1.6.
Command line is not so difficult to learn, but I do like the installer. No faffing around looking for drivers, this does the hard work for you.

https://www.sabayon.org/

Update installer description..
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: Chrysalis on February 24, 2017, 02:56:40 PM
funtoo or gentoo probably for me as I believe in compiling rather than using precompiled stuff :)

but for precompiled probably debian.

My own personal servers mostly are FreeBSD because of ZFS, although one I have installed with hardenedbsd (to get ASLR mitigation), when BTRFS is finished linux will have a comparable file system natively at which point its possible I could do a mass migration to gentoo since I rate iptables as a firewall better than the old PF in FreeBSD.
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: Chunkers on March 13, 2017, 03:00:17 PM
I battled hard and long trying to live with Arch linux (https://www.archlinux.org/), clearly I am not awesome enough so I have gone back to Ubuntu.

Unless you like hacking text files to make even basic things work, know all the CLI commands to manually partition and enable your disk before installing, enjoy the challenge of getting your UK keyboard or locale to be recognised, are excited by the possibility that Arch probably doesn't support half of your peripherals then I would avoid.

It does look nice with gnome installed and the pacman package utility is cool and I really like the minimal install footprint but ffs, honestly, the install needs you to manually configure your network.  Its like going back to the 00's.

Ubuntu 16.10 installed with about 5 clicks, feel better now

Chunks
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: burakkucat on March 13, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
I battled hard and long trying to live with Arch linux (https://www.archlinux.org/), clearly I am not awesome enough so I have gone back to Ubuntu.

<snip>

Ubuntu 16.10 installed with about 5 clicks, feel better now

Fully understood.  :)  I have an advantage of the experience in talking to (and maintaining) Unix systems, back in the early 1980s.  ;)
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: Weaver on March 13, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
Someone could presumably add on an intelligently designed installer - poss even stealing a lot of it from elsewhere?
Title: Re: Arch Linux -only proper geeks need apply
Post by: roseway on March 13, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
If you're referring to Arch, then as I mentioned earlier, Manjaro is Arch with added user-friendliness. The installer is very simple to use, and subsequent configuring is well catered for.