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Broadband Related => Broadband Technology => Topic started by: Bowdon on February 20, 2017, 01:13:11 PM

Title: How does Internet cell networks - 4g, 5g and honeyg! etc work!?
Post by: Bowdon on February 20, 2017, 01:13:11 PM
Ok, I couldn't resist the honeyg part in the title  ;D

I was wondering how does the mobile technology when it comes to 4g and 5g speeds and reliability compare when it comes to regular land line connections, as far as pings, lag, congestion, and capacity?

Is it possible to do most things via 'air technology'? (I don't know the correct word for the collective name of 4g, 5g technologies)

I notice a big issue with conventional internet companies is capacity, and congestion. Does air technology suffer from that? Is it easier for them to setup their network for speed and capacity because they dont need to physically add things to the network?

Will air technology ever be able to compete or overtake a land line connection?
Title: Re: How does Internet cell networks - 4g, 5g and honeyg! etc work!?
Post by: Chrysalis on February 20, 2017, 01:53:09 PM
it defenitly does, although I dont know exactly where the bottlenecks are. e.g. the three network has capacity problems.

Generally for a start masts still need a backhaul feeding them, so that backhaul itself can get congested, a bit like backhaul to a telephone exchange.  I think also the wireless connectivity itself still has a capacity limit, from what I understand higher frequencies have more capacity but also shorter range.  This is one reason why EE is high performing for mobile network standards as they got a big chunk of the higher frequency stuff.

For the last question I think it will at some point.

Look at whats happened in home networks, all the focus has been on wireless connectivity, so ethernet has stagnated at gigabit on home routers, but now AC wireless tech can surpass that.  There is also already work on a successor for AC tech yet 2.5gbit or 10gbit ports on routers seem miles away.  5G will have 6G after it and so on for mobile networks, whilst for wired broadband I dont know of anything in development that would surpass FTTP.
Title: Re: How does Internet cell networks - 4g, 5g and honeyg! etc work!?
Post by: Bowdon on February 20, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
I wonder if there will ever be a combination for at least a FTTC / air technology combo.

So instead of digging up roads or going underground the air technology could act as a bridge.

Hmm.. node powered by solar power, and the feed coming from air technology. That would be interesting. Not sure on the performance issues that might arise though.
Title: Re: How does Internet cell networks - 4g, 5g and honeyg! etc work!?
Post by: Bowdon on February 21, 2017, 12:03:21 AM
I just found this article today. It looks like these people were talking about a similar theme, though Fibre backing up 5G. (

Why do we need fibre? The Fibre to the Home (FTTH) Council attempted to provide an answer at its annual conference last week.

Alongside the usual discussions about the advantages of the technology, another message was placed front-and-centre.

“The world is going wireless,” said FTTH Council President Ronan Kelly in his keynote speech. “However, [the wireless connections] all need to get onto a fixed infrastructure as quickly as they can.”

He added: “We will not get 5G unless we have fibre available.”

In an interview with European Communications FTTH Council Director General Erzsébet Fitori expanded on this theme: “The next generation of mobile networks will be basically more wired than they are today. 5G requires that you take fibre to the antenna.”

She said that the kinds of applications that will run on 5G will require not just high bandwidth but low latency, requiring fibre to be rolled out even further.

An example is security features on connected cars, which will require “millisecond latency.”

“In order to have that, you will not connect a wire to the car but the wire will have to be alongside the road. That is how the wireless connection will be able to deliver the low latency,” Fitori said.