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Title: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 08:03:48 PM
One or all of the web servers at the Scottish Gaelic-language college here in Skye (where I studied full time many years ago) seems to be unreachable according to a traceroute from my ISP and from other starting points that I have tried from.

Could anyone tell me anything about the route you are seeing and the point of any outage?

Traceroute - www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk:
Entry;Info;IP
001 firebrick;81.187.147.xxx  (7.06 ms);81.187.147.xxx
002 g.gormless.thn.aa.net.uk;90.155.53.57  (33.88 ms);90.155.53.57
003 a.aimless.thn.aa.net.uk;90.155.53.41  (33.14 ms);90.155.53.41
004 linx-gw1.ja.net;195.66.224.15  (34.07 ms);195.66.224.15
005 ae23.londtn-sbr1.ja.net;146.97.35.169  (33.95 ms);146.97.35.169
006 ae29.londtw-sbr2.ja.net;146.97.33.9  (41.64 ms);146.97.33.9
007 ae31.lowdss-sbr1.ja.net;146.97.33.29  (37.56 ms);146.97.33.29
008 ae29.leedaq-sbr1.ja.net;146.97.33.49  (95.79 ms);146.97.33.49
009 ae21.edinsc-ban1.ja.net;146.97.37.238  (51.74 ms);146.97.37.238
010 ?;* ;*
011 ?;* ;*


(It's a strange world where I have to go to London and back to reach somewhere ten miles away,  it it is what it is.)
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: burakkucat on January 27, 2017, 08:55:59 PM
A quick look by me shows --

Code: [Select]
[Duo2 tmp]$ ping -c 1 www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk
PING tarbh.smo.uhi.ac.uk (194.35.194.95) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- tarbh.smo.uhi.ac.uk ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 10000ms

[Duo2 tmp]$ sudo traceroute -I www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk
traceroute to www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk (194.35.194.95), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  AP (192.168.1.254)  6.518 ms  6.507 ms  6.501 ms
 2  81.1.112.16 (81.1.112.16)  64.154 ms  64.205 ms  64.211 ms
 3  host-78-151-238-145.as13285.net (78.151.238.145)  64.213 ms  64.214 ms  64.216 ms
 4  host-78-151-238-144.as13285.net (78.151.238.144)  64.216 ms  64.218 ms  64.217 ms
 5  host-78-144-12-17.as13285.net (78.144.12.17)  64.248 ms * *
 6  * * *
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10  * * ae31.lowdss-sbr1.ja.net (146.97.33.29)  98.414 ms
11  ae29.leedaq-sbr1.ja.net (146.97.33.49)  118.466 ms  118.497 ms  118.494 ms
12  ae21.edinsc-ban1.ja.net (146.97.37.238)  118.462 ms  118.454 ms  118.447 ms
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[Duo2 tmp]$
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 09:31:18 PM
Are they really relying on a single pipe? Or is this a routing problem within the ja.net? Does anyone have any ideas?

It has been like this for a couple of days now.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: burakkucat on January 27, 2017, 09:55:56 PM
Do you know of an administrator in Janet who you could contact?

All the information I had expired last century! 
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
My neighbour works as a web admin, for UHI. I will talk to him. I wanted to have a sanity check, to know if this is a quirk related to routing from certain source networks, but I knew it was more than just a problem specific to my ISP.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: d2d4j on January 27, 2017, 10:32:46 PM
Hi weaver

If you google downforeveryoneorjustme.com it states site is up

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 10:40:14 PM
Thing is, it is down for burakkucat as well. And the possible ‘breakage’ appears to be within scotland but in ja.net, not within the UHI and is not a question of the one server being down, as the two web servers www and www2 show the same problem. I suspect it is a routing issue, not near Skye and not necessarily anything to do with a link being down.

I also personally know the webmaster for www2, so I'm doing a sanity check before I pester him.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: roseway on January 27, 2017, 11:11:01 PM
If you enter the site's IP address (194.35.194.95) into a browser you get a plain page which just says in large letters "It works!". I guess that's a holding page while they sort out a problem.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 11:35:22 PM
roseway, that's interesting. Tonight I couldn't even get near the location though, as seen from my and burakkucat's traceroute, so it seems you are having more luck than me unless things have been fixed now i have sent off a few messages, one to my neighbour and the other to ja.net's public email.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 11:37:13 PM
it is now back up, after a few days. That's suspiciously quick. Thanks to all.
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on January 27, 2017, 11:40:34 PM
Btw, I have seen websites like the aforementioned is x down service, can't remember which ones I have looked at. Some of them are built from user complaints, is that the case? (Rather than pinging or http connections or traceroute etc live.)
Title: Re: www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk is down
Post by: Weaver on February 03, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
I am told the site was inaccessible yet again earlier in the week but today www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk for example is up. God knows what on earth they or janet are up to.

I seem to remember there are services for monitoring some web server automatically - anyone have any experience of such?