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Internet => Web Browsing & Email => Topic started by: broadstairs on November 12, 2016, 10:26:15 AM

Title: Can you access a site please?
Post by: broadstairs on November 12, 2016, 10:26:15 AM
I'd appreciate knowing how many of you (if any) can access  http://loopsofzen.co.uk/  (http://loopsofzen.co.uk/)?

I am lead to believe that this site is IPv6 ONLY so many may not be able to without either a tunnel or IPv6 support.

Stuart
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: licquorice on November 12, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
Nope on BT IPv4
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: jelv on November 12, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Yes - AAISP
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: Chrysalis on November 12, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
loads fine here via ipv6 on sky.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 11:28:04 AM
Unable to connect. PlusNet.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: broadstairs on November 12, 2016, 12:52:08 PM
Thanks guys... I have told TT what I think about their laziness in not doing anything.

Stuart
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: tbailey2 on November 12, 2016, 01:08:32 PM
Connects here okay on Plusnet and there is no IPV6 available.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 12, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
That site has been deliberately made IPv6 only to encourage IPv6 adoption.

@tbailey2
So how are you accessing it then? You must be using some sort of tunnel.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 01:57:02 PM
I can view it here.   Plusnet. Not on IPv6. No tunnel.

Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Hmmmm

See below.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 02:39:17 PM
So I just performed a tracert to loopsofzen.co.uk

Code: [Select]
C:\Users\kitz>tracert loopsofzen.co.uk

Tracing route to loopsofzen.co.uk [2001:8b0:0:30::666:102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *       66 ms  2001:1488:ffff::18
  2   188 ms   144 ms   100 ms  2001:1488:ffff::ffff
  3   177 ms    44 ms    47 ms  20ge1-3.core1.prg1.he.net [2001:7f8:14::6e:1]
  4   188 ms   279 ms    94 ms  100ge8-1.core1.fra1.he.net [2001:470:0:213::1]
  5     *      336 ms    61 ms  100ge6-1.core1.lon2.he.net [2001:470:0:37::1]
  6   235 ms   108 ms    93 ms  a.aimless.thn.aa.net.uk [2001:8b0:0:53::41]
  7   139 ms   121 ms    73 ms  a.needless.mh.aa.net.uk [2001:8b0:0:89a::1]
  8   138 ms   108 ms    84 ms  a.homeless.aa.net.uk [2001:8b0:0:30::51bb:1e02]
  9   143 ms    71 ms   100 ms  loopsofzen.uk [2001:8b0:0:30::666:102]

Trace complete.

and then another to homeless.aa.net.uk

Code: [Select]
racing route to homeless.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    14 ms    14 ms    13 ms  lo0.central10.pcn-bng01.plus.net [195.166.130.248]
  3    15 ms    15 ms    14 ms  411.be5.pcn-ir02.plus.net [84.93.253.71]
  4    15 ms    15 ms    14 ms  195.99.125.140
  5    16 ms    15 ms    15 ms  peer1-et-1-3-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.127.19]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  a.needless.tch.aa.net.uk [90.155.53.11]
  8    17 ms    17 ms    17 ms  router.mh.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.1]

Note the increased latency for IPv6.   
According to IANA, the IPv6 address Ive been 'allocated' belongs to Hurricane Electronics. (he.net)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: tbailey2 on November 12, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
So how are you accessing it then? You must be using some sort of tunnel.
The only tunnel round here is the Channel one and don't think it's that  ??? IPV6 is disabled here everywhere.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: burakkucat on November 12, 2016, 04:17:02 PM
I get an immediate Unable to connect / Problem loading page message.

However that doesn't surprise me, being a fellow TalkTalk user like Stuart.

Ah ha! Having just performed a whois, I see that the registrant is the young Mr Kennard, son of Adrian.

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    Domain name:
        loopsofzen.co.uk

    Registrant:
        James Kennard

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
        address omitted from the WHOIS service.

    Data validation:
        Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 27-Sep-2016

    Registrar:
        Andrews & Arnold Limited [Tag = AAISP]
        URL: http://www.aa.net.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 10-Aug-2010
        Expiry date:  10-Aug-2018
        Last updated:  09-Aug-2016

    Registration status:
        Registered until expiry date.

    Name servers:
        primary-dns.co.uk         81.187.30.41  2001:8b0:0:30::51bb:1e29
        secondary-dns.co.uk       81.187.81.32  2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:5120

    WHOIS lookup made at 15:39:11 12-Nov-2016

Quote
[Duo2 ~]$ sudo traceroute -I loopsofzen.co.uk

connect: Network is unreachable
[Duo2 ~]$ sudo traceroute -T loopsofzen.co.uk

connect: Network is unreachable
[Duo2 ~]$ sudo traceroute -U loopsofzen.co.uk
traceroute to loopsofzen.co.uk (2001:8b0:0:30::666:102), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
connect: Network is unreachable
[Duo2 ~]$ host 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102
2.0.1.0.6.6.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.b.8.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer loopsofzen.uk.
2.0.1.0.6.6.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.b.8.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer loopsofzen.co.uk.
[Duo2 ~]$

I believe that Andrews and Arnold was recently described as "a strange company run by a strange man", so the above access problems do not surprise me in the slightest!  ::)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 12, 2016, 04:18:32 PM
So some people on Plusnet appear to have some sort of IPv6 connectivity, others don't. I wouldn't know if Plusnet themselves have done anything because I'm using an ancient router which doesn't support IPv6.

Any chance certain routers have built-in IPv6 tunnelling? Also, I thought newer versions of Windows have built-in IPv6 tunnelling technologies, but I don't know if any are automatically enabled so that they just work.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 04:34:19 PM
That's interesting, because I see that my Billion 7800DXL router does have the option of a 6 in 4 tunnel. Unfortunately it requires some data which I don't have (or don't understand). See attachment.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 12, 2016, 04:39:53 PM
Perhaps what I should have asked is if any routers have decided to automatically enable some sort of IPv6 tunnel. I imagine this is unlikely. I'm thinking it's likely to be some Windows thing then.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 05:21:52 PM
You are likely correct.   I just checked my network settings. 
Looking at my network adapter I have a Teredo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling) interface.


ETA

Quote
A host that has IPv4 connectivity to the Internet from behind a NAT and uses the Teredo tunneling protocol to access the IPv6 Internet. Teredo clients are assigned an IPv6 address that starts with the Teredo prefix (2001::/32

... and sure enough you can see from the earlier screen cap that my IPv6 address does start with 2001:
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 12, 2016, 05:36:50 PM
I know Teredo and ISATAP date back as far as Vista, what I'm not sure about is if they actually work fully automatically, with no additional configuration required. I think Win 7 seems to spend its time looking for an IP address for some Teredo server which does not resolve. The other thing Windows tends to do is look for a machine named ISATAP on your local network.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 05:57:51 PM
I've not manually configured anything. 
I've checked in my logs and it says Teredo was installed on 15/08/2016  00:30:48.
Win10 Pro was installed as a new build 22/7/2016...  so 15th of Aug was possibly when I installed the anniversary update.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: tbailey2 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
I can't  find any trace of anything called Teredo installed here anywhere - Win10 Anniversary and later updates. Certainly not listed under the NIC Device. It dos have a TAP-Windows Provider V9 whatever that is. It also takes upwards of 20 seconds to connect whenever I try.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 06:11:44 PM
It doesn't show by default.
Device Manager > Network Adapters

Then go to View > Tick 'Show hidden devices'

Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: tbailey2 on November 12, 2016, 06:34:19 PM
Seems a bad idea to hide it...

But yes it's there...
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 12, 2016, 07:02:53 PM
From EE

This site can’t be reached
loopsofzen.co.uk’s server DNS address could not be found.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: Ronski on November 12, 2016, 07:04:06 PM
I can also access that site, I've not setup anything for IPv6, but my installation of Windows 10 does have Teredo installed
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 07:21:41 PM
Well, I've certainly learnt something from this. There's a Linux equivalent to teredo, called miredo. Having installed it on my Debian system, I can now see the loopsofzen site. :dance:
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: Chrysalis on November 12, 2016, 07:34:10 PM
Modern versions of windows by default do enable a ipv6 tunnel.  Yes its teredo :)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 07:51:03 PM
For those who don't know, there's a site where you can get your IPv6 status tested: http://test-ipv6.com/ (http://test-ipv6.com/)

With miredo installed, it reports as follows for my connection:

Quote
Your IPv4 address on the public Internet appears to be x.x.x.x

Your IPv6 address on the public Internet appears to be 2001:0:53aa:64c:2c65:1bc5:ccf9:cdb1
Your IPv6 service appears to be: Teredo

Your Internet Service Provider (ISP) appears to be PLUSNET UK Internet Service Provider, GB

Your IPv6 connection appears to be using Teredo, a type of IPv4/IPv6 gateway. Your particular teredo configuration is only used as a protocol of last resort. When visiting a site with both IPv4 and IPv6, IPv4 will be preferred.

Good news! Your current configuration will continue to work as web sites enable IPv6.

Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have IPv6 Internet access.
Your readiness score
7/10   for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 12, 2016, 08:01:00 PM
But it's not true IPv6 that would be used in the routers hardware this seems more like a software emulation for IPv6 sites
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: jelv on November 12, 2016, 08:59:01 PM
1. I'm presuming people using a tunnel will see worse latency.

C:\Users\John>ping loopsofzen.co.uk

Pinging loopsofzen.co.uk [2001:8b0:0:30::666:102] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=10ms
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=10ms
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=10ms
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=10ms

Ping statistics for 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 10ms, Average = 10ms


2. Firefox users might like to install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/4or6/ so they can see whether a site was accessed using IPv4 or IPv6.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 09:10:14 PM
Oddly enough, I can't ping that site, but I can run a traceroute, and you're right - the latency is very high.

Quote
eric@nuthatch:~$ ping loopsofzen.co.uk
ping: unknown host loopsofzen.co.uk
eric@nuthatch:~$ traceroute loopsofzen.co.uk
traceroute to loopsofzen.co.uk (2001:8b0:0:30::666:102), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
 1  2001:1488:ffff::18 (2001:1488:ffff::18)  357.455 ms  357.431 ms  357.428 ms
 2  2001:1488:ffff::ffff (2001:1488:ffff::ffff)  357.758 ms  357.758 ms  357.765 ms
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  a.aimless.thn.aa.net.uk (2001:8b0:0:53::41)  391.397 ms  126.614 ms  126.608 ms
 7  a.needless.mh.aa.net.uk (2001:8b0:0:89a::1)  263.226 ms  225.722 ms  225.681 ms
 8  a.homeless.aa.net.uk (2001:8b0:0:30::51bb:1e02)  258.516 ms  258.495 ms  169.377 ms
 9  loopsofzen.uk (2001:8b0:0:30::666:102)  153.088 ms  143.729 ms  143.737 ms
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 12, 2016, 09:10:39 PM
Jelv using the Google DNS not my ISP DNS so I wonder if that would make a difference  :-\

Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 09:14:14 PM
I'm using Google DNS, so there's some other cause.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 12, 2016, 09:27:14 PM
I'm using Google DNS, so there's some other cause.

Could it be our local exchange is still using 20CN and the headend exchange is 21CN though the voice is 20CN and FTTC is 21CN can't see why this would cause IPv6 not to be available even if using the teredo tunneling   
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
For those who don't know, there's a site where you can get your IPv6 status tested: http://test-ipv6.com/ (http://test-ipv6.com/)

With miredo installed, it reports as follows for my connection:

Hmm not sure why, but for me its reporting 0/10.   Yet it is obviously working.   I think most of my results are the same as Eric's just in a different order, but the score is very different  :-\
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 12, 2016, 10:04:35 PM
1. I'm presuming people using a tunnel will see worse latency.

Yes thats one of the things I mentioned in my post here (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,18924.msg337429.html#msg337429) before I realised I had Teredo.   "Note the increased latency for IPv6.

Seeing that my IP address was allocated by HE, and the increased latency is what made me go looking to see what was going on.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: Chrysalis on November 12, 2016, 10:16:49 PM
kitz your score is at odds with the summary, there is a sort of debug page you can click tho that shows the individual test results.

A bad dns server would not cause a 0/10 anyway as some of the tests make direct connections to ipv6 ips without dns lookups been carried out.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: burakkucat on November 12, 2016, 10:28:18 PM
Oddly enough, I can't ping that site, . . .

I think you might need ping6 ?  :-\
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 12, 2016, 10:48:17 PM
You're absolutely right, thank you.

Quote
eric@nuthatch:~$ ping6 loopsofzen.co.uk
PING loopsofzen.co.uk(loopsofzen.uk) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=187 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=90.2 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=73.6 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=96.3 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=5 ttl=47 time=52.6 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=6 ttl=47 time=57.1 ms
64 bytes from loopsofzen.uk: icmp_seq=7 ttl=47 time=59.2 ms
^C
--- loopsofzen.co.uk ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 52.655/88.110/187.393/43.401 ms
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: burakkucat on November 12, 2016, 10:55:20 PM
Purrfect.  :)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 12, 2016, 11:00:52 PM
from here

Pinging loopsofzen.co.uk [2001:8b0:0:30::666:102] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=129ms
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=95ms
Reply from 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102: time=157ms

Ping statistics for 2001:8b0:0:30::666:102:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 157ms, Average = 127ms
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: d2d4j on November 13, 2016, 11:21:24 AM
Hi

I hope you don't mind, but I think IPV6 connectivity is enabled at the gateway connection systems, rather then on your pc or routers if not using IPV6, as default.

This I think is only true for non business connections, or those with more the 1 static IP range. (I say more then 1 static IP they are manually configured in router, and not DHCP assigned, whereas 1 static IP is DHCP assigned to you)

My results for the IPV6 test as below, and I cannot ping any IPV6 addresses, or resolve any IPV6 addresses, and toledo is active in network, but tested using windows 7 ultimate, with google DNS, and our connection is BT Business, multiple static IP addresses

@Kitz, hurrican is a free IPV6tunnel broker/service, which I am just signing up to now, for a test, so this maybe how you are able to receive IPV6 perhaps, and perhaps you ran code similar to this

netsh interface teredo set state disabled
netsh interface ipv6 add v6v4tunnel interface=IP6Tunnel xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
netsh interface ipv6 add address IP6Tunnel 2001:jkj:1f08:jkjk::2
netsh interface ipv6 add route ::/0 IP6Tunnel 2001:jkj:1f08:jkjk::1

Please note the above have been changed.

I now have IPV6 tunnel set in router, using 1 static IP, and results are

Pinging loopsofzen.co.uk with 64 bytes of Data:
Receive reply from 2001:8B0:0:30::666:102, time==30ms
Receive reply from 2001:8B0:0:30::666:102, time==20ms
Receive reply from 2001:8B0:0:30::666:102, time==20ms
Receive reply from 2001:8B0:0:30::666:102, time==20ms
Receive reply from 2001:8B0:0:30::666:102, time==20ms
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0% loss)

and I still can not access loopsofzen.co.uk, and my network now shows correct IPV6 and IPV6 Gateway address/

Many thanks, and I am sorry of I am wrong

John

Test with IPv4 DNS record   
ok (0.224s) using ipv4
 
Test with IPv6 DNS record   
bad (0.086s)
 
Test with Dual Stack DNS record   
ok (0.323s) using ipv4
 
Test for Dual Stack DNS and large packet   
ok (0.323s) using ipv4
 
Test IPv4 without DNS   
ok (0.333s) using ipv4
 
Test IPv6 without DNS   
bad (0.206s)
 
Test IPv6 large packet   
bad (0.263s)
 
Test if your ISP's DNS server uses IPv6   
ok (0.597s) using ipv4
 
Find IPv4 Service Provider   
ok (0.548s) using ipv4 ASN 2856
 
Find IPv6 Service Provider   
bad (0.130s)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: d2d4j on November 13, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
Hi

Sorry, I over thought the IPv6 rfc internal network so have now corrected this and access to IPv6 is fully working, set in Draytek router, which DHCP assigns clients

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: d2d4j on November 13, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
Hi

Sorry, last post as I left out the IPv6 test as below

Many thanks

John


Test with IPv4 DNS record
ok (0.186s) using ipv4
Test with IPv6 DNS record
ok (0.173s) using ipv6
Test with Dual Stack DNS record
ok (0.186s) using ipv6
Test for Dual Stack DNS and large packet
ok (0.073s) using ipv6
Test IPv4 without DNS
ok (0.128s) using ipv4
Test IPv6 without DNS
ok (0.126s) using ipv6
Test IPv6 large packet
ok (0.131s) using ipv6
Test if your ISP's DNS server uses IPv6
ok (0.164s) using ipv6
Find IPv4 Service Provider
ok (0.410s) using ipv4 ASN 2856
Find IPv6 Service Provider
ok (0.382s) using ipv6 ASN 6939
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 13, 2016, 02:08:56 PM
kitz your score is at odds with the summary, there is a sort of debug page you can click tho that shows the individual test results.

A bad dns server would not cause a 0/10 anyway as some of the tests make direct connections to ipv6 ips without dns lookups been carried out.

Yes I thought it odd hence why me mentioning it and attaching the screen cap.  As requested the debug page below, for the 0/10 result.

However, I think Ive found the answer to that, I'd not realised I'd switched browsers when I ran that test.  I mostly work in 2 browsers when Im coding as it makes it easier see which are test pages and which I may have open references etc. 

If I run the same test using Firefox or Palemoon, I get the correct 7/10 score. 

Upon investigation it appears Chrome does not support IPV6 sites when using Teredo.   Its been broken for over 2 years and not fixed yet. - See link (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=259940) 
Sure enough if I try to open loopsofzen in chrome, I get the message "This site can't be reached".
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: kitz on November 13, 2016, 02:24:19 PM
Quote
@Kitz, hurrican is a free IPV6tunnel broker/service, which I am just signing up to now, for a test, so this maybe how you are able to receive IPV6 perhaps,

No Ive not set anything at all.   
It would appear that it was the Anniversary update which configured Teredo on my Win10 Pro machine.
From Event Viewer -> Custom Views -> Device Manager I  can see 'Teredo Tunnelling Psedo-Interface installed 15/08/2016 00:30:48'

There is nothing in my router set for IPv6, its one of the first places I checked when trying to figure out why I was able to view an ipv6 only site.   
I too had wondered about ISP assigned static IPs, but when I saw Teredo in my network interfaces, thats when I realised it was an OS related. 
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 13, 2016, 03:36:07 PM
The Teredo Tunnelling Psedo-Interface has been present since Windows Vista, I suspect it shows as installed then because that's when it was last updated.

It might be interesting to find out which operating system the people who couldn't access the site are running, and why it doesn't work for them.
Maybe this explains it: https://www.brightbox.com/docs/guides/ipv6/windows/
(which I found when searching Google for teredo.ipv6.microsoft.com - which is the name of the server that doesn't seem to exist)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 13, 2016, 03:42:20 PM
It didn't work for me on Debian Linux until I installed miredo (teredo for Linux and BSD).
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 13, 2016, 03:48:19 PM
Thanks Guys & Girls have been able to access that site using IE11 for some reason the teredo tunnel had a problem starting up on Windows 10 pro so had to find a fix and here is.


•Click on Start, type cmd into the Search box, a menu will pop up, right click on cmd at the top of the list and select Run as Administrator. If the User Account Control window appears click on Yes.
•Type all of these commands (very carefully) one at a time and click on the Enter key on your keyboard after each one has been typed in. You must copy the words exactly as shown here, one letter wrong and they won't function.
•netsh
•int teredo
•set state disabled
•Leave the Command window open. Click on Start, Control Panel, Device Manager. Click on View and select Show hidden Devices.
•Right click on Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface and select Uninstall.
•Close the Device Manager and Control Panel. Back to the Command window, type these one at a time and click on the Enter key after each one is typed.
•netsh
•int ipv6
•set teredo client
•Close the Command window.
•Open Device Manager again, right click on Network Adapters and select Scan for harware changes, then click on View and select Show Hidden Devices.
•You should now see the Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface entry back in place without the yellow exclamation mark.
•Right click on Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface and select Properties, it should show that the device is working correctly in the Device Status box.

Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: d2d4j on November 13, 2016, 03:49:38 PM
Hi

@ejs - windows 7 ultimate 64bit.

Teredo shown installed and active, but no IPv6 access, only the local link shown in network

IPv6 only became active when I setup 6to4 tunnel, which I did at router level so all connected devices could use IPv6, which is a /64 block but could get a /48 if needed

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: ejs on November 13, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
According to the website I linked, it's because the earlier versions of Windows won't do DNS lookups asking for IPv6 addresses if they've only got Teredo access to IPv6.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: broadstairs on November 14, 2016, 11:12:09 AM
I have now installed Miredo on a Fedora24 test system under virtualbox as my main openSUSE system does not have a package for it. It sort of works in that I can visit http://v6.testmyipv6.com/ (http://v6.testmyipv6.com/) and do an IPv6 only test which works but for some reason I am not able (yet) to visit my original site I asked about from Firefox although the ping6 commands work fine.

Its an awful lot of messing around to solve what is an ISP issue, I'd hope to get a reply from TT on my thread having told them about the loopsofzen site being IPv6 only. They really should get their corporate fingers out and implement IPv6 sooner rather than later when more sites are IPv6 only.

Stuart

Just to say that after initially posting this I went back and tried loopsofzen again in Fedora24 and it worked! Go figure!
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: broadstairs on November 15, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
I have now found out what I missed when installing miredo on openSUSE and now it works on here as well. Pity they don't have a package but it is working now natively in openSUSE.

Not heard back from TT yet on my thread there about what they might or more likely might not be doing....

Stuart
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: roseway on November 15, 2016, 03:53:40 PM
I'm pleased you got there. :)
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: broadstairs on November 15, 2016, 10:28:20 PM
It was suggested on another forum that this cold (and perahps should) be done in a router. Has anyone tried IPv6 tunnelling in a router?

Stuart
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: Chrysalis on November 15, 2016, 10:49:54 PM
yes, its best to probably get a hurricane electric tunnel, they free, and I Was using one before switching to sky native.

you also get a static allocation which you can delegate as you please.
Title: Re: Can you access a site please?
Post by: NewtronStar on November 16, 2016, 08:21:12 PM
It was suggested on another forum that this cold (and perahps should) be done in a router. Has anyone tried IPv6 tunnelling in a router?

Stuart

The Billion 8800NL will automatically setup a virtual server in the NAT as (UPnP) Teredo once a device that requires IPv6 connectivity so need to do anything manually on the router side.