Problem as I see it is that you need the whole thing as I dont see how the MK4 plate will fit an existing NTE5, and you are not supposed to fiddle with the NTE5 yourself.Yeah you'll need the whole thing for the mk4 filter to work. I was about to buy it but at 32.99 it just seems a bit expensive. Especially if I don't like the results compared to my Mk2 I am running at the moment. Yeah I know you aren't supposed to mess around with the wring etc but hey ho
Stuart
Are there more windings on the MK4 coil, or are my failing eyes betraying me ??Looks like it, I wonder if this may increase the attenuation even more than the mk3 filter lol :-\
Well we will see, at least there is the benefit of a nicer looking socket on the wall, if there turns out to be no difference. I am not actually expecting much to be honest, I just like to try out the latest products that is all. You can see the difference in circuit design here between a Mk3 and Mk4, which does look the exact same as the Mk3 components like you said:
(https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/images/mk2vdslpcb.jpg)(https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/images/VDSLMK4pcb.jpg)
S.Stephenson I already have a Mk3 and didn't like it all. Didn't have any advantage over the Mk2. Attenuation was higher, ES, CRC the same and sync/attainable was lower. Yeah it is pretty expensive for what it is but oh well at least it looks better than the old NTE5A :)
Similar to my findings, the MK3 is too aggressive and lowered my attainable by 2 Mbps. My MK1 gave highest sync.Out of interest have you tried Mk2, I have not tried a Mk1 maybe this would be even better than my Mk2 lol
But most ISP's broadband package are sold with voice package I know to love Andrews and Arnold but try not to look like one of there sales reps on the forum ::)
Out of interest have you tried Mk2, I have not tried a Mk1 maybe this would be even better than my Mk2 lol
. . . apparently there's a difference between having a master socket vs. having no master socket and connecting the pair of wires straight into the DSL socket of a modem.
If you don't use an ordinary telephone, and so don't need the BT-phone type socket, then straight-through faceplates for DSL, which go onto the older NTE5, are available from the Andrews and Arnold shop. AAISP shop:I've ordered this, but they don't like making it easy to purchase if you're not a customer. The order confirmation says they will not invoice me until they have supplied the goods. They will not send the goods till I pay. I won't know the delivery charge till they invoice me. So how do I pay for delivery if they won't tell me how much delivery is till I've paid? After querying this via email and asking if there is a shipping charge the reply I got was..
http://aa.net.uk/broadband-accessories.html
(Note: You don't have to be an existing ISP-customer.)
Yes, Post and packaging costs will be added to your invoice as per thewtf?!?
order confirmation.
Once payment has been made, We will send you the goods.
Thank you
I was talking about the lower broadband only unfiltered faceplate for the nte5a from AAISP, like I quoted :P
Does the whole thing just screw into a standard BT back-box?
Does the whole thing just screw into a standard BT back-box?Yes. He didn't change the back box.
Is there any chance of asking for an upgrade? ...The downside is you wouldn't be able to fit the A&A DSL, as the layout is completely different with the test socket near the middle.
In theory it should. Including the standard recessed, metal, electrical backing box. :-\
If it doesn't, then someone has severely blundered and a redesign will have to occur.
FYI ...... part of a quote from our CE's office .........
" .... you need some spacers in case you need to fit the NTE on a metal pattress or dry lining back box until the MK2 becomes available."
@aesmith Clarify - does the new model NTE come with a filter in it? Too groggy to read back through all the earlier threads. Apologies.
Ah, ha! So someone in the design process (and I fully expect the person responsible to be external to the BT Group) has blundered! :D
Hi, this video is an introduction to the new NTE5C master socket and MK4 VDSL faceplate by BT Openreach. It explains the differences between the old NTE 5A master socket and the new NTE 5C and the pros and cons.
Installation videos will follow on how to wire up extensions and how to hardwire data extensions on the MK4 faceplate.
Many thanks Vince
The front plate could come off too easily. Just knocking it could pull it half off, one side having come outMine's been installed for just about a month and a half. The front plate is so loose that just unplugging the phone cable is enough to pull it free on that side. It really doesn't take much to pull the plate off, even without depressing the clips. That might be a design goal so that snagging a cable pulls the plate off rather than breaking anything, but if so they've overdone it. Mine's going to get a couple of self tappers to keep everything secure, it's either that or discard the front plate and use a dangly filter in the test socket.
I will always cut-back on where the wires were previously terminated. I think it is just good practice to do so.
Regarding the process being "Slower" ...... I suppose it is, but you're talking in the area of additional seconds so it's not a game-changer in that respect.
As regards the benefit to Openreach ?? I'm only guessing here, but the 'Tool-less' design has probably been introduced as a means of eventually saving on the tool budget. With 24,000 engineers requiring 24,000 Krone tools at approximately one a year, that will be a no brainer to a bean-counter !! It's not just NTE's that are going tool-less ...... the street cabinets are as well. :)