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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: nick9one1 on February 23, 2016, 12:18:03 PM
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I've been looking forward to getting fibre. I've been checking the status changes on http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ regularly, and today my cabinet became enabled!
unfortunately it says it is unavailable. "Your cabinet is enabled for Superfast fibre however you're not able to order fibre just yet. This might be because the length of the line is too long to get Superfast speeds."
Which led me to KITZ.
I've done some research on my PCP cabinet from what I've read here.
I can tell I'm on cab 83, and have plotted all the other homes on the same cabinet. None of them can get fibre yet. (I haven't been able to find the actual location of the cabinet on street view yet)
if this cabinet is FTTC enabled, why can no one using it order fibre?
the orange line is where I estimate the line runs (all the properties both sides come up as cabinet 83)
Green dots can get FTTC (all on different cab's)
Red dots cant get FTTC (all on cabinet 83)
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Futgifytvn%2Fimage.png&hash=3866b18325f515e6f635cb4f9f70dc383349485e)
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Hi, have you actually tried to place an order?
Down here, circa 2 years ago, I was an early adopter. The 'availability checkers' were still saying 'not yet', but one day I saw an engineer fiddling at the new cabinet, that had spouted up a few weeks earlier. I asked him if he knew 'when', to which the reply was 'now' - he was actually connecting up one of the neighbours as we spoke.
A phone call to Zen and I was enjoying FTTC just a few days later. The availability checkers continued to say 'not yet' for quite some time after I was connected. Can't say for sure whether the Openreach 'where-and-when' was among those that were wrong, my memory is not that good.
Looks like you live in nice spot. :)
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Hi,
Yes I have.. unfortunately the supplier (BT) tells me its not available and suggest ADSL.
It just seems strange how the openreach checker went through all the steps for cabinet 83 (Build, Connect, Activate etc.). But anyone that is connected to 83 cant order it.
Maybe i just need to be patient?
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I've been looking forward to getting fibre. I've been checking the status changes on http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ regularly, and today my cabinet became enabled!
unfortunately it says it is unavailable. "Your cabinet is enabled for Superfast fibre however you're not able to order fibre just yet. This might be because the length of the line is too long to get Superfast speeds."
It would help to know the name of the exchange.. -- (edit looking again at the map, I see its the Newark exchange)
What does http://dslchecker.bt.com/ checker say for your line? Its more authoritative than the where and when site.. [it might be worth using both the telephone and address checker to see if they give different results)
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thanks again...
here is what it says.
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I also came across this website http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=498669&postcodeloc=13622&cabinet=P83 (http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=498669&postcodeloc=13622&cabinet=P83)
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I've checked quite a few of the addresses here ^ and FTTC isn't available for anyone on cab 83.
I'd be interested to know what the % figures mean
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The cabinet should be somewhere near NG24 1XG.
I guess its just not ready yet - keep an eye on the DSL Checker -that will show the same availability data ISPs see.
As its being funded by BDUK, the checker probably won't mention FTTC until its live - in areas covered by BT's commercial build it would probably list the approximate FTTC speeds by now..
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ok, thanks for your help. I will do!
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I've checked quite a few of the addresses here ^ and FTTC isn't available for anyone on cab 83.
I'd be interested to know what the % figures mean
The % figure is the number of properties in that postcode connected to cabinet 83.
Depending on where the cabinet is, I think the only people not likely to get decent fibre speeds are those living on Tudor Close.
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Unfortunately I am unable to determine the cabinet number, so a visit to the Job Centre in Lombard Street will be required . . .
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I can also see the new one outside the job centre, which is in Streetview May 2015, but not in 2014. No number visible. Other than that, there's a complete dearth of cabinets, except small ones that seem more likely to be VM. Lots of green wheelie bins though...
It looks like the exchange is actually behind the job centre, so that one is likely to be a cabinet for old EO lines. If it was there a year ago, then timing might suggest it is cab 81, which is already live. However, all the cabs in the 80's look to be ones centred around the exchange - so perhaps they are all new PCP's for EO lines.
Do you know if you have always been on cab 83? Or if that cabinet number has recently appeared in the checker?
My suspicion is that this is a conversion from an EO line, and that the database updates have not gone through smoothly - or just not completed yet. The checker tells us that "fibre multicast" is present, which is a marker that tells us a live FTTC cabinet is there, in my experience. It seems likely that the data that *ought* to give the checker an idea of whether FTTC is available is not correct - so has perhaps not been initialised correctly in the EO conversion process.
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I've had a quick gander on our Net Recs and I don't think I've seen as many Cabs placed in such a small locality ?? There are 6 Cabs (55, 81, 82, 83, 85 and 88). The furthest two are only 200mtrs from the Exchange !!
The good news is that all 6 Cabs show as having a sister-DSLAM linked to them, so if you don't have access to FTTC yest I would guess you will sooner rather than later ??
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thank you for everyone's input.
Some Interesting comments..
I'm not sure if the property has always been on 83, I've only been here a couple of months.
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the exchange is definitely behind the job centre, I can see quite a few openreach vans parked back there. And the cabinet outside it is 81.
I found cabinet 83 today, its about 300m from my house, outside Mill View apartments. It looks brand new, and isn't on street view. Its has what looks like a Huawei 96/128 FTTC cabinet next to it.
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I'm pleased to know that you have finally managed to track down EMNEWAR_P83 and its "fibre twin". :)
Yes, with just a glance, I can see that the "fibre cabinet" contains a Huawei SmartAX MA5616 MSAN (used solely as a DSLAM). The MA5616 backplane has space for four line-cards and the total number of ports available depends entirely upon the port density of the line-cards that are installed.
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I'm pleased to know that you have finally managed to track down EMNEWAR_P83 and its "fibre twin". :)
Yes, with just a glance, I can see that the "fibre cabinet" contains a Huawei SmartAX MA5616 MSAN (used solely as a DSLAM). The MA5616 backplane has space for four line-cards and the total number of ports available depends entirely upon the port density of the line-cards that are installed.
So this is good news?
I'm about 300m from the cabinet, and currently get around 16Mb.
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Yes, good news that it is a Huawei (though I am not sure that Openreach are still fitting ECI cabinets).
Good news its already there as well - so should probably go live soon.
Possible reasons for delays in going live could include:
- lack of power;
- lack of fibre;
- pre-commissioning tests/faulty equipment
If you stand next to the FTTC cabinet - can you hear fans operating?
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I also found this planning application. It gives quite a lot of detail!
The application is for a DSLAM on 21st April 2015. The address is 'next to PCP083'.
In the document there are images of the location, PCP083 doesn't exist and is marked as 'PCP083 proposed location'
As this is from April 2015, it must mean the PCP is new too?
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fmi9buqwcb%2FCapture2.jpg&hash=501d3aa9b8f91b939dad49d2416339ac88a71879) (http://postimg.org/image/mi9buqwcb/)
https://publicaccess.newark-sherwooddc.gov.uk/online-applications/files/BA3FBD6F70906E3A1EE873A0D3380DC8/pdf/15_00694_TEL25-TEL_25_DETAILS-536377.pdf
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Sorry if I confused, my response was to William. [snipped]
Sorry my mistake.
When users dont start a separate thread for their own questions and change the topic, it's difficult to follow which responses are to the original question/post.
I agree it had got a bit confusing with two conversations running. Ive split off posts to another thread as best I can, to try keep all your info together.
I think the only thing missing in here now is
I haven't been past again yet, so not sure if the fans are running,
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thanks Kitz :)
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I also found this planning application. It gives quite a lot of detail!
The application is for a DSLAM on 21st April 2015. The address is 'next to PCP083'.
In the document there are images of the location, PCP083 doesn't exist and is marked as 'PCP083 proposed location'
As this is from April 2015, it must mean the PCP is new too?
Yes, it is now clear that the original telephone circuits were exchange only (EO) or direct exchange lines (DEL). The above montage has been created by overlaying an image of a DSLAM containing cabinet onto a picture of the area and adding annotations.
So since the original photograph was taken, two new cabinets and some fresh tarmac have been added. :)
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thanks Kitz :)
It doesn't sound like fans are running, but difficult to tell. Are they normally quite loud?
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No, not that loud. If there is significant street noise then the fans would be difficult to hear.
Have you actually tried placing an ear against the louvres and inserting a finger in the other ear?
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I think it must be getting closer..
http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=523039&postcodeloc=13622&cabinet=P83
the date has changed on here now.
for my cabinet it did say;
FTTC being connected, live by May 2016
now it says
FTTC Available from 24th February 2016
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Just keep an eye on the telephone checker on http://dslchecker.bt.com/ - which is the one which counts..
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as of today, both http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ and http://dslchecker.bt.com/ say it is available!
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Congratulations!