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Broadband Related => ISPs => Topic started by: jelv on November 11, 2015, 12:14:08 PM

Title: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: jelv on November 11, 2015, 12:14:08 PM
Plusnet have started doing self installs for FTTC from today for which they will be supplying the Home Hub 5A!

See http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,145603.0.html
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 11, 2015, 01:18:01 PM
I think Bob Pullen is already aware that the HH5A doesn't support G.INP.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: loonylion on November 11, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
no G.INP and notorious for dropping the ppp session for no reason... what the hell are they playing at? Plusnet seem to be going down the tubes.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: jelv on November 11, 2015, 01:39:52 PM
Well BT have to get rid of their stock of duff routers somehow...
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: ejs on November 11, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
I'm a bit surprised actually, I read that the Technicolor 589nv3 and 589vac have managed to be "conditionally approved", so presumably that's some sort of conditional pass from the Openreach VDSL2 modem conformance testing. I assumed Plusnet would have gone with one of those.

Still no firmware update for G.INP down and up? :( I think someone is working on getting OpenWRT running on the HH5A, some soldering required to install it of course.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: roseway on November 11, 2015, 04:30:42 PM
I suspect that jelv got it right. PlusNet is BT's bargain basement ISP.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: NewtronStar on November 11, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
I think Bob Pullen is already aware that the HH5A doesn't support G.INP.

G.INP does work on the HH5A Downstream only that is and the pppoe session drops for no reason well it seem to be every 14 days from this link https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/BTHH5-rebooting-every-14-days-Type-A-only/td-p/1549724 (https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/BTHH5-rebooting-every-14-days-Type-A-only/td-p/1549724)
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 11, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
Did you ask Bob Pullen? He knows if it does or not.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: kitz on November 11, 2015, 07:56:53 PM
Good grief.   Bargain basement indeed. 
Im with jelv - re duff routers.    :no:
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Oldjim on November 11, 2015, 08:52:24 PM
Re Bob Pullen
In the thread linked he stated
Quote
It's been a while since I looked at the G.INP stuff, but the Hub One behaves the same way as a model A BT Home Hub v5 in this respect (compatible on the downstream but not on the upstream?).

Using a Hub One, my line is in sync at 19999 / 79906 with a maximum attainable downstream of 88875kbp
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 11, 2015, 08:58:26 PM
I think if he replaces that with a HH5 type B his sync would be 79999.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Oldjim on November 11, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Now I won't be using it but it just occurs to me that it might be a cheap way of getting 4 port (all Gigabit) VDSL switch with a/n/ac wireless if I could set it up to work off my 8800NL in bridge mode
Is this liable to be possible
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Iain on November 11, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
I seem to have a good HH5A, mind you my printer keeps losing the Wi-Fi connection.

1. Product name:BT Home Hub
2. Serial number:+xxxxxxxxxxx
3. Firmware version:Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.204.1.11 (Type A) Last updated 06/07/15
4. Board version:BT Hub 5A
5. DSL uptime:19 days, 21:10:58
6. Data rate:20000 / 79995
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 11, 2015, 09:25:40 PM
The HH5 will function as a router only with a bridge modem plugged into its WAN port.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 11, 2015, 09:27:36 PM
I seem to have a good HH5A, mind you my printer keeps losing the Wi-Fi connection.
You may be able to see in the event log that the printer keeps on connecting to and disconnecting from the wifi.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Chrysalis on November 11, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
another step in the upcoming BT and plusnet merger then.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: tommy45 on November 11, 2015, 11:53:12 PM
It would seem so,I'm glad i left them when i did,
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Black Sheep on November 12, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
another step in the upcoming BT and plusnet merger then.

??? You've lost me there, Chrys ????? BT acquired (merged ??) with PlusNet back in Jan 2007. Is there something else afoot that I know not of ??  :-\
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 12, 2015, 09:52:31 AM
It's a two-way street - Plusnet's customers will share the advantage of the HH5 and BT's customers will share the delights of Plusnet's traffic management  :angel: >:D
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Black Sheep on November 12, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
Ah I see now ……. you mean the word on the street is that BT Retail ISP and Plusnet ISP will likely merge sometime in the future ??  :)
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Dray on November 12, 2015, 10:45:41 AM
Maybe Toto has something to do with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Black Sheep on November 12, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
What man ??  ;)
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Chrysalis on November 13, 2015, 01:04:09 AM
BS I mean brand merger.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: jelv on November 13, 2015, 08:46:30 AM
When Plusnet was acquired the thinking was obviously so that the BT group could compete with Sky and TalkTalk on price while still charging all the people who had been with BT for donkey's years are were not going to move the expensive prices. That has now changed and we see more aggressive marketing from BT Retail.

However there are a lot of people who for various reasons want to be as far away from anything to do with BT as possible. It comes as a shock to some of them to find out Plusnet is owned by BT. For that reason alone I don't think we'll see a brand merger any time soon.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 13, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
BT announce new call UK call centres, Plusnet start using BT Home Hub.

Definitely sounds like a merger to me! Where is an easy place to get a huge UK call centre from!
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Oldjim on November 13, 2015, 11:04:45 AM
Looking at the latest BT Fibre offering 80/20 £21.67 per month equivalent for 12 months whereas Plusnet offer is £10.00 a month for 6 months then £19.99 a month so Plusnet are still significantly cheaper providing your exchange isn't Market A

Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Al1264 on November 13, 2015, 12:33:04 PM
Definitely sounds like a merger to me! Where is an easy place to get a huge UK call centre from!
I doubt Plusnet's call centre(s) is/are anything like big enough for BT - they can't (acording to many users feedback on their forums) answer calls from the much smaller Plusnet userbase in a reasonable timescale.

As long as PN and BT Retail are both profitable there's no point in 'merging' as running two separate brands is likely to give significantly more market share.

Weren't BT buying a UK mobile operator?  EE?  Don't they have a large UK call centre?

Sorry to add to the OT discussion  :(

I thought (in their advertising at least) BT claimed the HH5 was to (ISP supplied) routers as Sunblest was to bread?
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: bobpullen on November 13, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
I think if he replaces that with a HH5 type B his sync would be 79999.

Yes it is. Same with other Broadbcom chipset based devices.

... the pppoe session drops for no reason well it seem to be every 14 days from this link https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/BTHH5-rebooting-every-14-days-Type-A-only/td-p/1549724 (https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/BTHH5-rebooting-every-14-days-Type-A-only/td-p/1549724)

Must admit, I know nothing of this problem. I can categorically tell you though, that I've had PPP sessions nailed up for well over 14 days using the device.
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: NewtronStar on November 13, 2015, 05:26:52 PM
Looking at the latest BT Fibre offering 80/20 £21.67 per month equivalent for 12 months whereas Plusnet offer is £10.00 a month for 6 months then £19.99 a month so Plusnet are still significantly cheaper providing your exchange isn't Market A

You have raised a good point regarding exchange Market types
Just checked my own line and get this 
Broadband Access† Market 1
BTw Pricing Band E

what does this all meen ?

Edit reason : found info on this site
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/broadband_access_market.htm
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Geekofbroadband on November 19, 2015, 06:30:45 PM
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/11/uk-isp-plusnet-launch-new-hub-one-fibre-router-and-self-install-fttc.html

and its a type A people with g.inp are going to love that  :lol:
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: jelv on November 19, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
Catch up! Already being discussed: http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,16450
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: Geekofbroadband on November 19, 2015, 08:44:18 PM
Ah didn't see that thanks  :D

[Wearing his collar with a moderator tag attached, b*cat merges both threads.]
Title: Re: Plusnet to supply HomeHub 5A
Post by: tonyappuk on November 24, 2015, 05:15:38 PM
Just been told that my upgrade to fibre next Tuesday will now be done with a Hub One but with an engineer visit.
See http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,145603.msg1286506.html#msg1286506
Tony