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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: PhilipD on September 01, 2015, 12:20:23 PM

Title: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: PhilipD on September 01, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Hi

Tentative at the moment but looking at moving to Melton Mowbray, a property we have seen is FTTC enabled however due to a longish run is estimated to get around 40/8 at best.  Samknows shows Melton Mowbray exchange as having FTTP in some areas.

Is it possible to order FTTP and what might the costs be?

Regards

Phil
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Ronski on September 01, 2015, 01:17:35 PM
If its served by FTTC then the only way you may be able to get FTTP  is if FTTP on demand is available and that can get very expensive - think four figure sums.

40/8 is still pretty good, we easily get by on around that. It might also be worth taking into consideration whether the property is fed by an eci or Huawei cabinet.
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: PhilipD on September 01, 2015, 03:23:57 PM
Hi

Thanks for the info.

I work from home and everything is cloud based these days and it tends to be the upload speed that makes the difference for me, so 8Meg upload is okay but faster is better of course.  My company may contribute towards some of the cost of FTTP, just depends on how much it might be, so maybe 4 figures of say £2000 wouldn't be so bad, but 4 figures at £9000 a different story.

I've since read that orders have been stopped by Openreach for FTTP on demand at the start of this year with some new trial taking place to see if they can make it cheaper to install, so presumably at this point in time I couldn't even inquire and get a quote.

Regards

Phil

Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Ronski on September 01, 2015, 03:52:05 PM
I thought they had stopped taking orders but wasn't sure, and there was only a few areas that had it available anyway. Cost (https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricing/loadProductPriceDetails.do?data=0WyIM7tTGGgucFf0dXUIWK4XSAplAmgrRZNg5Pk%2B5%2F%2BkRgB7BL4KNYn%2FlKx2YB4Qe6YShZ82RgLO%0AGLsH2e9%2Bmw%3D%3D) depended on how far you are from the nearest NGA Aggregation Node, not the cabinet.
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: PhilipD on September 01, 2015, 04:42:05 PM
Hi

Thanks for the info, so I guess us as in the end user can not know how far away the aggregation point is without making an order or getting a quote for installation.  So price may range from being pretty reasonable given some costs covered by my company and any money I put towards it compared to the cost of a new house is neither here nor there) to a lot of money, if I could order and get it at all!  ::)

Food for thought, just wondering on options and possibilities.

Regards

Phil

Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: roseway on September 01, 2015, 04:44:56 PM
I guess another option might be to bond two lines.
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: GigabitEthernet on September 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
I believe if the G.Fast trials are successful, BT Openreach may consider reinstating FTTP on Demand at some point.
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: PhilipD on September 01, 2015, 05:41:23 PM
Hi

I guess another option might be to bond two lines.

That's a good point, although given cross talk I'm not sure if that is a guaranteed doubling of speeds?  I think if I could get FTTP for say £2K installation that would be viable for me and would be more future proof as well perhaps, plus more reliable than trying to push plain old copper wire.

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I believe if the G.Fast trials are successful, BT Openreach may consider reinstating FTTP on Demand at some point.

I guess that is because the two go hand in hand?  For G.Fast they would already be pushing fibre much closer to properties to feed the G.Fast equipment, so for FTTP it's not much of a leap from there to the property?  It's the if it happens and how quickly it becomes available really.  Still if G.Fast is in the area the likely hood is I wouldn't need FTTP.

Regards

Phil



Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Ronski on September 01, 2015, 06:37:15 PM
Just checked my brothers house in Bromely as I know that did have FTTPod available some time ago, and that's showing that FTTPod is still available to order on the BT Wholesale Checker (http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.AddressOutput).

Just checked a property in Melton Mowbray (Surgery, LE13 0NF) and it shows FTTC but no FTTPod product available, so it doesn't look like one of the areas that had it available anyway.

Probably the best option is line bonding, although cross talk will affect the lines you will get more than a single line on it's own.
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: loonylion on September 01, 2015, 10:09:16 PM
inb4 weaver arrives to recommend Andrews and Arnold  :P

sorry, couldnt resist  >:D
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Weaver on September 01, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
 :-[
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: AArdvark on September 02, 2015, 12:42:10 AM
inb4 weaver arrives to recommend Andrews and Arnold  :P

sorry, couldnt resist  >:D

Leave him alone ....... he has commission to earn  :D <jk>
He has to pay for those 3 lines somehow !

@Weaver Sorry (Tha mi duilich)  [Hope that means what I think it means  ;D ]
Also this was in a Conversational Scottish Gaelic Phrasebook ==> "Cò an caora sin còmhla riut a chunnaic mi an-raoir?" (Google it, it is real  :lol: )
Not sure how it is used in everyday conversation though ???
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Weaver on September 02, 2015, 03:09:38 AM
What have I done?

 :-[
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: Weaver on September 02, 2015, 03:17:57 AM
Btw

     an caora sin
should be
    a' chaora sin
because sheep are grammatically fem in Gàidhlig. (like le and la in French)

And I whould say not Có (who) but "có leis" (whose). It's a bit odd saying "who was that sheep", unless your sheep have names, more like "whose sheep was it"

Seem to be more than a tad off topic now
Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: AArdvark on September 02, 2015, 03:23:47 AM
Yes, just found it strange to put it in a phrasebook for visitors. Strange sense of humour that may not be appreciated by the recipient.
Sorry, no more off topic :)

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Title: Re: Moving home, is FTTP a possibility?
Post by: roseway on September 02, 2015, 07:30:41 AM
Let's keep to the topic, guys. :)