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Computer Software => Windows 10 => Topic started by: AArdvark on August 17, 2015, 11:40:02 PM

Title: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 17, 2015, 11:40:02 PM
Yet another Register article.
It highlights something I have noticed that MS are getting less interested in explaining exactly what you are installing in Win10.

I tried looking up some of the Win10 Updates and you cannot even find a reference to the KB number.
(Click the 'more information' link on the details for the update in the Updates listing on your machine and now often you get page not found.)

Of particular interest/entertainment value is another 'Trevor_Pott' exposition in the comments of this article.
[I believe burakkucat you may particularly enjoy this.  :D]


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/17/microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/17/microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why/)
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: burakkucat on August 18, 2015, 12:07:45 AM
Your really must try not to post links to such amusing articles!  ;)  It's now tomorrow and I haven't finished what I started yesterday.  ::)

Quote from: Trevor Pott
Once Windows 7 can't be had, I'll move to Windows 10. When I do, I'll lock that SOB down and firewall it off from the rest of the network and treat it like the a toxic digital piracy-thieving piece of p00 that it is.
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 18, 2015, 12:26:36 AM
Trevor Pott is becoming my hero   ;)

He says what we all know is true in such an eloquent way  ::)  :D  :lol:
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: kitz on August 18, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
I noticed today that mine has finally said its ready for download.   I was beginnging to think that I may be one of those who doesnt get it, but something must have made it kick in today and decide its my turn.  Its been downloading "In progress" now for about 7hrs so far and at the current rate of about 15kbps I dont imagine it will be ready anytime soon  ::)

Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 18, 2015, 01:06:24 AM
Kitz, get the .iso as detailed elsewhere on kitz.

Saves time as you are going to do a clean install anyway, once your upgrade has registered and been activated.

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I was beginnging to think that I may be one of those who doesnt get it
The way MS are going I don't think it is possible to NOT have it.
I am waiting for OSX users to start complaining about a 'strange' large update that has appeared, stating 'Install me now (A friend) !!!'




Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: kitz on August 18, 2015, 01:18:08 AM
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Saves time as you are going to do a clean install anyway,

Woooooooooah hang on..   need to start a new thread. :'(
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: Chrysalis on August 18, 2015, 04:17:30 AM
sadly MS have been like that for a while, the description on all the recommended updates on win7 and 8 always says a vague "install this update to resolve issues in windows" LOL
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 22, 2015, 12:19:58 AM
Latest Update:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/21/microsoft_will_explain_only_significant_windows_10_updates/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/21/microsoft_will_explain_only_significant_windows_10_updates/)

MS are now formally stating that you will not be told what all the win10 Updates are!
I wonder why?

It just gets better and better!
 ??? ::)

[MS: What I don't tell you can't harm me ......  :lol: :lol: .... and you cannot complain about  ::) ]
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: Chrysalis on August 22, 2015, 09:02:02 AM
they really seem to enjoy shooting themselves in the foot, the win10 marketing was so good prerelease, momentum was there, now a lot of mud is sticking to the name.

The update system is probably the prime reason only my testing machine is on win10, still win7 on this pc and my laptop.
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 22, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
Have just booted into the Win8.1 partition this evening and it's a been a few weeks since I last used it and guess what the update to Win10 is ready.

I am not sure if I should click on get started  :-\

Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 22, 2015, 08:27:50 PM
Feel free to play .... just know what you are getting into. Personally I would not touch with a bargepole.!

Any similarity to advice\stance re:Dodgy Pharma products is just coincidence.  ;D ;D

Although both are 'bad' for you in the long term.  :o ;D
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 22, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
Feel free to play .... just know what you are getting into. Personally I would not touch with a bargepole.!

Cheers what I'll do is to take a disk image of the Win8.1 partition this is were Win10 will be installed and if doesn't mess up the boot sector then I can revert back to Win8.1 without to much bother.
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 22, 2015, 08:55:24 PM
Supposedly for 30 days you have the ability to 'Roll Back' but a disk Image is a much better idea as it cannot be 'broken' by MS accidentally via a random update.  ;D

Win10 is 'nice-ish  ;D' overall ... just too nosey for me.

Without the nosiness I might have upgraded from Win7 ..... who knows. (Pun not intended)
Best of Luck.  :fingers:
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 22, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
Supposedly for 30 days you have the ability to 'Roll Back' but a disk Image is a much better idea as it cannot be 'broken' by MS accidentally via a random update.  ;D

Well I am 58% into the drive image of Win8.1 was not aware there was a 30 day cool off period it's better to be overcautious when come to MS  ;)
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 23, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
Windows 10 installed no effect on Vista partition it still there just had to go back to legacy boot loader and edge is crap so made IE11 the default browser, two application for X-FI sound card are not working at the moment all seem ok just a bit different than Windows 8.1  :)
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 23, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
Yay!

Check if there are any win10 updates on the x-fi site (Creative Labs).

You should get a burst of updates over the next day or so, including a DVD app which is a freebie from MS.


Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 23, 2015, 07:47:15 PM
Still windows 10 boot time is way slower than windows 8.1 it's like 30 seconds slower, on win8.1 I'd been in the OS in 23 seconds now on win10 it's about a minute before access to OS  :(
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: HPsauce on August 23, 2015, 08:21:33 PM
What boot options are you using?
By default it will use the faster semi-hibernated process which is pretty quick.

I've changed all my W10 installs to do a "clean" boot each time. Takes a bit longer, but is noticeably faster than W7 on the same hardware.

(It's all rather hidden away in the power options)
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: AArdvark on August 23, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
At boot up it could be busy doing things .......... I wonder what ??  ::)
Title: Re: microsoft_replaces_windows_10_patch_update_wont_say_why
Post by: NewtronStar on August 23, 2015, 08:48:16 PM
What boot options are you using?
By default it will use the faster semi-hibernated process which is pretty quick.

Both timings are from a cold boot

Got the X-FI up and running again just used the CD disk to install all the files and updated the driver from a previous win8.1 download.