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Title: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: renluop on August 12, 2015, 05:26:12 PM
I came across a new  DSL Reports (http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest) speed test in this  thread (http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/general/f/4405887-dslreports-new-speedtest-also-checks-for-bufferbloat.html?page=3&view=collapsed&vc=1) in the TBB forum.

It looks to my untrained eye quite complicated, having many settings. Just out of mere curiosity, what are opinions on it? Has anyone seen it prior to this post?
FWIW the buffer bloat on a personal test came out ~1200ms.



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Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: burakkucat on August 12, 2015, 05:30:41 PM
I believe this (http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest) is the test.  :)

No, I've not made use of it.  :no:



I have now. Here's my result (http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/1077186).

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1077186.png&hash=54e65bab0e0446d67c06f6bc4005a070248215de)
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: kitz on August 12, 2015, 05:59:45 PM
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Has anyone seen it prior to this post?


Just ran a couple of tests for buffer bloat.  I also see B download and A for upload at TBB.

.. and this is my one from DSLreports

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdfkrkqaqb1zsx.cloudfront.net%2Fspeedtest%2Fcdn%2F992879.png&hash=fae1b68e66ab1fb64de63049b40ec218666b5217)

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what are opinions on it?


I think there's a general debate out whether the likes of dsl reports should be using buffer-bloat as a performance for ISPs because there's various places where buffer-bloat can occur.. ie ISP network, BTw network, transit links and of course how the customers own router handles it.   Should an ISP be marked as say 'F' because the EU may have put on a router which is causing buffer bloat.  Unfortunately there isn't any way from these tests to identify where the bufferbloat is occurring, just that its there somewhere.


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Here's my result.

Atm, my speeds seem a bit wonky and its not giving me a result for bufferbloat. I saw it real time though and it was well over 1000 ms :(
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1077311.png&hash=deb67586d9dbe7ed00613f805864f597308ce689)
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: renluop on August 12, 2015, 06:53:37 PM
I don't understand how to post links in this format
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/nnnnnnn">
<img src="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/nnnnnnn.png"></a> :-[

Just wrapping in url brackets doesn't work. Can someone kindly increase my knowledge?
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Ronski on August 12, 2015, 08:12:42 PM
Quote a message with a picture and all will be revealed.
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Ronski on August 12, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
And here is mine

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1079311.png&hash=18669cf831e13600e33df1d17597d0efcd5add8b)

Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: renluop on August 12, 2015, 08:37:36 PM
Like 4 yo kid eyes are hidden so you don't see my embarrassment among you speed merchants. ;D

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1078411.png&hash=2c8037f9c4da830f4054791cc8a3f46c8f9e0325) bloat was around 400 ms at one time.

Thanks Ronski! Got it now, but TBB does seem to choose a funny way with links. Why do they do so, rather than how it's done here?
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: CrazyTeeka on August 12, 2015, 08:43:57 PM
Speed Test - ISP is AAISP

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1078578.png&hash=929262e1ea13899de00e825daa778e3598021421)
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Ronski on August 12, 2015, 08:55:12 PM
Thanks Ronski! Got it now, but TBB does seem to choose a funny way with links. Why do they do so, rather than how it's done here?

Different forum software does things differently, but the links that page provides is HTML. I actually think the insert URL is weird here, a lot of forums have a pop up box to enter the URL and then creates it for you, here it just enters the tags then I need to paste in the URL which is a right pain when I'm on my phone or tablet.
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Chrysalis on August 12, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
here go guys.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1079197.png&hash=621e2c292c9fd99572535d1355d95bc18fe8cb0d)

am bit annoyed as was one single spike on the upload part. :( but I still made a+
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Chrysalis on August 12, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
here is updated one from chrome, seems firefox stuttering harmed the test in firefox.

also posting screenie to show latency range during tests.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F1079282.png&hash=d0e5fccac4a79508f70bb2e4f484af26a1d1a2df)
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Weaver on August 13, 2015, 08:14:22 AM
I've been using this test for the last couple of months.

My latest result was 0.76 Mbps US, 5.18 Mbps DS. bufferbloat class D iirc.
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: renluop on August 13, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
How useful are the many other things/ info that are provided? :-\
Title: Re: Another speed test pickedup from TBB Forum
Post by: Weaver on August 13, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
@renluop - am unable to say.

But there are some interesting statistics to be had outside the main result page. The page about your ISP (or your own AS, or IPs in a range that matches a certain domain name) is interesting reading as it shows the variation between users of that AS or domain.

For example AS20712 (my ISP, A&A, was matched, I don't have an AS of my own) showed bufferbloat distribution of roughly 33% grade A, no B (!), 30% C, 30% D, few E and virtually no F, iirc. F is the worst. Which tells me that A&A is not all bad.

Mind you, Crazyteeka scored an A or A+ iirc, and he has the same hardware and ISP. So it's either BT or some differences in the protocol stack for FTTC vs ADSL1/20CN/PPPoEoA or something I can't think of concerned with the huge speed differences between us, or because Ive got my Firebrick misconfigured.

(Latter quite poss, not sure about the us load splitting config and the stupid need to manually guess the traffic shaper rate values, which differ between lines and worse could in theory change from hour to hour.)