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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: jelv on April 09, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
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Tuesday I'm due to get FTTC - at this stage I don't know if I'll get an ECI or Huawei modem. Even if I get a Huawei I'm reluctant to start messing with it in case something goes wrong so I'm inclined to get a spare from the well known auction site. I've noticed that there seem to be different versions of the modem - does it matter which I get? (Locked or unlocked is irrelevant as that can soon be dealt with)
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Yay!
You will enjoy it so much.
I have ver 3B and all works well, particularly if unlocked :)
As far as I know it makes no real diference.
(May be some debate re: better performance but your line is a greater decider on final performance.)
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I've opted for the Plusnet 40/20, but I should sync at 80000 (they dug up the path outside my house to get the power for the cabinet). It's the latency which would be the issue if I'm given an ECI as I'm hoping to see an altogether snappier remote desktop performance.
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Would I be right in presuming the version is on the label underneath?
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The version appears in bold print on the modem's underside label, in the top right-hand corner.
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I believe 3B is the latest version.
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I believe 3B is the latest version.
You are, indeed, correct. :)
Avoid any that have no marking on the underside label or those marked 2V.
Both 3B and 2B will be acceptable.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331523866660
I sent the vendor a question asking for the version - he replied: "It's 3rd"
Does that make any sense?
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Yes, 3A or 3B.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331523866660
I sent the vendor a question asking for the version - he replied: "It's 3rd"
Does that make any sense?
I presume it is a 3B.
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Yes, 3A or 3B.
Have you seen (or had experience of) a 3A? :-\ Because no such a beastie has ever been produced. :no:
To the best of my knowledge (and also that of other persons) the full list of versions of the HG612 modem is:
- null (The original, not marked in the top rh corner of the bottom label.)
- 2V
- 2B
- 3B
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I had a vague memory of reading about a HG612 3A & 3B.
Searched my history and found the following: (from http://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/FTTC-modem-differences-BT-TT-Sky/td-p/736391 (http://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/FTTC-modem-differences-BT-TT-Sky/td-p/736391))
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1072.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw364%2FGrapheneMan%2F3a_B_zpsp6rdorqh.jpg&hash=4ef2c01300f4a701af50c485e560ac03f6e2101e)
So sorry, if I was wrong.
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Tuesday I'm due to get FTTC - at this stage I don't know if I'll get an ECI or Huawei modem. Even if I get a Huawei I'm reluctant to start messing with it in case something goes wrong so I'm inclined to get a spare from the well known auction site. I've noticed that there seem to be different versions of the modem - does it matter which I get? (Locked or unlocked is irrelevant as that can soon be dealt with)
I'm quite lazy. If it works, why mess with it?
Problem is, it's a case of when it 'breaks' rather than if and if you don't have a baseline from day one... :)
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I had a vague memory of reading about a HG612 3A & 3B.
Searched my history and found the following: (from http://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/FTTC-modem-differences-BT-TT-Sky/td-p/736391 (http://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/FTTC-modem-differences-BT-TT-Sky/td-p/736391))
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So sorry, if I was wrong.
You have certainly remembered what you had previously seen. :) Unfortunately it was just a vague comment to a forum thread on an ISP's website. :D
(No harm has been done but it goes to show how vague throwaway comments can, by inadvertent recycling, be elevated to the status of "facts". It is well known that this grumpy old kitteh is not enamoured with the Thinkbroadband forum which, although there are certainly some very knowledgeable contributors, does propagate rather large volumes of "hog-wash". However a black furry paw is always waved, in friendship, to those Thinkbroadband-ites who subsequently have arrived here.)
:friends:
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Been to the Thinkbroadband Forum and could not stand the crossfire. ;D
I know the 'Interweb' if full of 'Facts' usually filter them quite well ..... I got caught this time. :( ;D
I am sure this 'Factoid' has travelled as I am sure I saw it somewhere else but this was the 1st match I found going back in my history.
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It's actually a 3B - when he sent the first reply it was from his phone and the 3rd was the result of predictive text! :D
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It's actually a 3B - when he sent the first reply it was from his phone and the 3rd was the result of predictive text! :D
Just purrfect. :cat:
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I've got a 3B sitting in a cupboard if anyone is interested?
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7:45 open curtains, parked outside is a Kellys van. :-\
Wander across the road to the cabinet where he's doing a test and wiring me up - I'm on port 1 (the only one)!
Go to his van to find the modem - he pulls out an ECI. I pull a face and try to explain to him the issues (he's Polish and his English isn't 100%). I have got these smaller ones he says, opens a new box and pulls out a HG612 3B - yay!
In to the house, plug things in - no sync. Check the phone - dead as a dodo - calling my number from mobile says engaged. Starting to believe all the worst about Kellys engineers. He goes back to the cab, 5 minutes later he's back, phone is working, 17070 option 2 is crystal clear, incoming calls are fine and the modem is in sync.
Connect up the router and we're flying! All done by about 8:20.
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Well done. A good result! :)
But what would have been the outcome if the end-user was Great Aunt Maud rather than jelv with "the knowledge"? :(
The sooner that Openreach stop using Kelly Communications and M.J.Quinn the better. (Of course there will be a legacy "pig's ear" still to be sorted out as a result of those sub-contractors' "work" -- which should keep the likes of Black Sheep and his fellow members of the flock busy for quite some time.)
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Please don't send Kelly to me, please? :(
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Well done. A good result! :)
But what would have been the outcome if the end-user was Great Aunt Maud rather than jelv with "the knowledge"? :(
Yes B*CAT if you think about it only 0.5 percent of households all able to see their full stats on FTTC it could be even lower and the rest just don't know how or care, so if your in the 0.5% give yourself a big hug ;D
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>> I'm on port 1
YAYYYYYY :yay:
Waits to see some stats, although from your location you should easily get full whack :)
>> (the only one)!
Lots of time for crosstalk :(... but you should have lots of spare to play with so it shouldn't be a major concern.
>> opens a new box and pulls out a HG612 3B - yay!
You were lucky! :clap:
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Kitz, why don't you use the forum quoting system :no:
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Kitz, why don't you use the forum quoting system :no:
Not attempting to answer for Kitz but possibly because everyone has their own distinctive style? :-\
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Its a habit of old, back to the days before there was such things as quote tags and php forums. Early forum software used it in place of quotes.
In fact some forum software until quite recently still used it and you could change the colour of the text depending on how many > you used to denote multiple quotes.
for example > would change the text to blue, >> text to purple >>> text to green
I think UB and a couple of the older regs will recall at least one example of such a forum.
I guess because I still do it, it gives away the fact that Ive been a nethead for @20yrs. :-X
It's actually a fallback to the same system that email used too: - in that ">" denotes the senders message.
I tend to also use it a lot when on the ipad, because it takes just too long to highlight bits to c&p and try line up tags.
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Oh fair enough. I was just curious :)
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OK - how many on here still use Usenet? > is the standard on there as well.
I still participate on plusnet.service.customer-feedback
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I forgot about usenet. Kicking myself now for not mentioning the newsgroups too. :D
I dont use it now and havent done for about 5yrs. My mail client is bad enough with email I dont think I could cope with the newgroups these days too. Yeah I know there's other readers out there now, but old habits die hard :lol:
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I use Thunderbird for mail and Usenet. The only add-on I have relating to usenet is Quote Collapse which is specifically for collapsing multiple lines beginning with > which it replaces with +. It also deals very well with nested quotes - as you know on Usenet it's not uncommon to see many, many > at the beginning of lines in long threads.
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Wander across the road to the cabinet where he's doing a test and wiring me up - I'm on port 1 (the only one)!
Time to sneak out and weld the cabinet doors to keep it that way. :fingers:
Also time to unlock that HG612, go on, you know you want to. ;)
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Wander across the road to the cabinet where he's doing a test and wiring me up - I'm on port 1 (the only one)!
Time to sneak out and weld the cabinet doors to keep it that way. :fingers:
:lol:
Also time to unlock that HG612, go on, you know you want to. ;)
Yes I do want to, but I'm not going to risk messing up which is why I'm waiting for the one I've bought on eBay!
At the moment I'm trying to get IPv6 working on a TG582.
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Wander across the road to the cabinet where he's doing a test and wiring me up - I'm on port 1 (the only one)!
Time to sneak out and weld the cabinet doors to keep it that way. :fingers:
Dammit - I was too slow - Kellys have been parked outside our house three more times to do other installs!
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I know the feeling! I too was the first connection to the cabinet and enjoying the relative exclusivity. However today to my horror I have received a mail shot from Digital Scotland presumably sent to everyone in the area advising we can now get high speed fibre broadband! I feel the insidious creep of crosstalk is not far off! >:( :(
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At least you noobies to VDSL won't have long to wait until vectoring technologies are applied, to deal somewhat with the X-Talk. At least on the Huwaei Cabs. :)
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At least you noobies to VDSL won't have long to wait until vectoring technologies are applied, to deal somewhat with the X-Talk. At least on the Huwaei Cabs. :)
is that a hint of insider information? :P
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At least you noobies to VDSL won't have long to wait until vectoring technologies are applied, to deal somewhat with the X-Talk. At least on the Huwaei Cabs. :)
is that a hint of insider information? :P
Ooh, just like counting the sleeps until Christmas! :D :fingers:
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At least you noobies to VDSL won't have long to wait until vectoring technologies are applied, to deal somewhat with the X-Talk. At least on the Huwaei Cabs. :)
is that a hint of insider information? :P
Ha ha ....... nothing new from what we already publicly know. IE: It will be sooner rather than later. ;) ;D
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Does the affect of cross talk vary with distance from the cab?
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Yes, massively. Thats what the trials have been all about …… trying to paint a picture of all scenario's. Short, medium, long lines. Small medium, heavy VDSL take-up on the Cabs. Heavy RFI, low RFI. Low 'disturbers', medium 'disturbers' …… hell, you get the picture. ;) ;D
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Where's my FTTC BT :(