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Title: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: boost on April 07, 2015, 11:11:21 PM
I'm seeing borked page refreshes here tonight and on closer inspection, packet loss to Google DNS, both 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

No loss to my router or the bbc...?
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: boost on April 07, 2015, 11:18:02 PM
Is someone messing with BGP? :o

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20271204/dslstats/Screenshot%202015-04-07%2023.14.28.png)
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: burakkucat on April 08, 2015, 12:07:23 AM
Weird. I've never seen that before . . .

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[Duo2 ~]$ ping -c 20 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=32.0 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=29.5 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=32.5 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=31.3 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=32.1 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=35.6 ms
From 216.239.46.79 icmp_seq=9 Time to live exceeded
From 216.239.46.79 icmp_seq=10 Time to live exceeded
From 216.239.46.79 icmp_seq=12 Time to live exceeded
From 216.239.46.79 icmp_seq=14 Time to live exceeded
From 216.239.46.79 icmp_seq=15 Time to live exceeded
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=16 ttl=54 time=31.9 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=17 ttl=54 time=32.9 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=18 ttl=54 time=34.2 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=19 ttl=54 time=33.1 ms
From 209.85.250.77 icmp_seq=20 Time to live exceeded

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 12 received, +6 errors, 40% packet loss, time 20027ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.559/32.097/35.657/1.742 ms
[Duo2 ~]$ ping -c 20 8.8.4.4
PING 8.8.4.4 (8.8.4.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=30.6 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=31.1 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=30.1 ms
From 209.85.245.189 icmp_seq=4 Time to live exceeded
From 209.85.245.189 icmp_seq=5 Time to live exceeded
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=56 time=34.2 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=56 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=56 time=29.9 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=56 time=32.1 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=56 time=30.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=11 ttl=56 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=12 ttl=56 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=13 ttl=56 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=14 ttl=56 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=15 ttl=54 time=29.5 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=16 ttl=54 time=30.1 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=17 ttl=54 time=30.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=18 ttl=54 time=29.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=19 ttl=56 time=29.3 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=20 ttl=56 time=29.8 ms

--- 8.8.4.4 ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 18 received, +2 errors, 10% packet loss, time 19063ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.380/30.358/34.296/1.168 ms
[Duo2 ~]$

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Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: boost on April 08, 2015, 12:12:56 AM
This is the first time I've ever had to remove GDNS from my PC :o
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: AArdvark on April 08, 2015, 12:20:03 AM
Use OpenDNS never had a problem (Famous last words .....)  ;D
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: boost on April 08, 2015, 12:20:39 AM
Use OpenDNS never had a problem (Famous last words .....)  ;D

It was a problem with OpenDNS that led me to Google... :D
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: AArdvark on April 08, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
What problem ?
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: tbailey2 on April 08, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
This is the first time I've ever had to remove GDNS from my PC :o

Likewise some days back, after three days of continual timeouts/website not found/not responding. Back to OpenDNS and immediate relief  :D
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: renluop on April 08, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
For me 8.8.8.8 is OK but 8.8.8.4 times out. Probably this and what follows in the attachment is irrelevant but the enquiry on 8884 shows a different route with something in lines 7 and 10.

If nothing else you can educate me. Comp has felt sluggish sometimes of late.
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: burakkucat on April 08, 2015, 06:09:27 PM
For me 8.8.8.8 is OK but 8.8.8.4 times out. Probably this and what follows in the attachment is irrelevant but the enquiry on 8884 shows a different route with something in lines 7 and 10.

The Google public DNS servers are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 (not 8.8.8.4).

Could one 8 to many coupled with one 4 too few account for what you have observed?  :-\
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: renluop on April 08, 2015, 09:53:48 PM
mens senex in corpore decrepito fecit is my excuse. :-[ May be I should double check my settings.
Title: Re: Google DNS... timing out?
Post by: Chrysalis on April 08, 2015, 09:57:17 PM
I actually switched to opendns a few days ago after discovering its much better for uk akamai stuff, opendns now also properly deal with NX requests so I think they a better option than google dns now.

Although I have just manually routed my ps4 dns to plusnet's dns servers as its the only way I can get decent download speeds of psn.