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Broadband Related => Broadband Technology => Topic started by: loonylion on February 12, 2015, 02:26:44 PM

Title: samknows boxes
Post by: loonylion on February 12, 2015, 02:26:44 PM
does anybody know how to get one? I've signed up repeatedly over the years and never heard a peep. at one point they said they were going to release a firmware image that could be flashed onto a WRT box or similar. That never seemed to happen and they never answered my emails about it.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: WWWombat on February 12, 2015, 02:58:38 PM
I understand that they try to balance the numbers on different ISPs, and different account styles - so perhaps you are in a popular grouping.

I got included at first attempt, over 4 years ago. I recently got an upgraded whitebox from them that monitors 5GHz wifi too.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: d2d4j on February 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
Hi

I don't think you can unless your chosen to be included in the testing.

We have had one for many many years.

If anyone would like a screenshot, I'll put one up

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: Ixel on February 12, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
I applied a while ago once, I did get a response inviting me to participate but after that I never heard back.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: burakkucat on February 12, 2015, 03:21:44 PM
If anyone would like a screenshot, I'll put one up

Yes, please. Kittehs are always curious.  :)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: loonylion on February 12, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
I understand that they try to balance the numbers on different ISPs, and different account styles - so perhaps you are in a popular grouping.

I've signed up on 3 different connections with 5 different ISPs over the years. They never answer.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: d2d4j on February 12, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
Hi

Please see pic attached. Please note I have cropped the top to remove ID.

This is screenshot from iPhone app

Many thanks

John

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/12/61acc1348ec7ce5e56c70f89f5a137bc.jpg)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: burakkucat on February 12, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Ah, thank you. Quite simple and straightforward.  :)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: d2d4j on February 12, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
Hi burakkucat

Yes, it gives at a glance the information. I chose 1 year so you can see.

There is no drill down or access to the stats, but it is important to understand it is not for fault tracing, it's usage is to compare ISP, speed etc between the European community.

Also, the stats are only collected when the broadband connection is below a certain level of usage from the users, so as not to slow anything down for the user.

I do like to try to do a little to help where I can

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: jid on February 12, 2015, 04:26:12 PM
I'll add my screenshot - shows the clear night time congestion on my TalkTalk exchange at the moment. Only been on the panel for around 3 weeks.

If necessary - these graphs are great ways to show TalkTalk they have or haven't fixed the issue when they claim they have.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: WWWombat on February 12, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
I plugged the new whitebox in just before we finally got FTTC working. Here's some snapshots...
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: burakkucat on February 12, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
Thank you, all, for posting your graphs. I have now learnt a little more.  ;)

There is one slight draw-back -- but not, I presume, to those of us who inhabit this forum -- and that is the need to accommodate yet another piece of equipment and its concomitant power supply. (I can imagine the Senior Management's reaction when discovering the latest addition!  ::)  )
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: WWWombat on February 13, 2015, 12:56:56 AM
Luckily, I'm still in the "testing phase". Senior management are putting up with the clutter right now, and I haven't said anything about when the testing phase will end  8)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: jid on February 13, 2015, 01:15:49 AM
Luckily, I'm still in the "testing phase". Senior management are putting up with the clutter right now, and I haven't said anything about when the testing phase will end  8)

Same here. Lots of cable ties and blu-tack keeps things tidy here  8)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: carlmagic on February 13, 2015, 06:11:14 AM
Any idea how long it takes to get a reply from them after registering your interest?

Also does anyone know if they are still accepting new users?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: loonylion on February 13, 2015, 09:49:38 AM
Any idea how long it takes to get a reply from them after registering your interest?

I've never had a reply...
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: WWWombat on February 13, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
I just looked back when I first applied.

It seems like it was very quick to get to the step with a website-based "performance check" (perhaps this was part of the initial application; I can't remember), then 3 weeks to hear anything about being selected, then a week to get the box.

But I think that was during a period where they were actively looking for people.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: d2d4j on February 13, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
Hi

Yes, that was and is the reason for samknows testing, and funded under the European Commission.

I think they only reply if you have been selected to be part of trial, and thought this was displayed when you apply.

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: jid on February 13, 2015, 04:55:34 PM
I applied online, and then about three weeks later (by which time I forgot I'd applied) I had an email asking me to confirm the terms and conditions.

The box then arrived two days later from Broadbandbuyer.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: WWWombat on February 13, 2015, 06:03:32 PM
Yes, that was and is the reason for samknows testing, and funded under the European Commission.

Was that a reply to me?

I know the point of the whitebox is for long-term testing. What I meant was that they appeared to pre-qualify me by getting me to run some performance tests using my PC browser and their website.

However, I can't recall if that was part of the original application, or if it happened as a second stage.
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: d2d4j on February 13, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
Hi wwwombat

Yes, I was just clarifying what it was for others

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: kitz on February 14, 2015, 11:17:58 AM
Quote
and that is the need to accommodate yet another piece of equipment and its concomitant power supply.

I was one of the first 200 selected when they were asking for volunteers in early 2008 and my box was on for many years.  I can't recall the first phase being EC funded, I could be wrong but I think that may have come later.  I cant recall any pre-selection tests for phase 1, and as far as I can recall selection was based on sync speed, product type and ISP to make sure there was a fair mix of users representing the products available at the time.   

I stopped using mine just before I got fttc & change of ISP. The added box (the original blue black linksys wrt somethings) was one of the reasons.  I hate clutter and cables so adding a fttc modem into the mix and I'd decided it was time to do a rethink get rid of surplus switches, modems routers etc.. because it had all become cable hell.

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ETA pic of my "sambox"
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: carlmagic on February 14, 2015, 06:09:11 PM
Ah cool thanks for the replies, ive signed up but i wont hold my breath waiting then  :lol:
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: Chrysalis on February 28, 2015, 08:35:09 AM
kitz my box is stuffed under a cabinet out of sight.

You would hate my setup :)

billion 8800nl (modem mode) -> asus ac66 (gateway) -> dlink dir615 (router acting as dumb switch) -> samnows box
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: idb on February 28, 2015, 10:31:51 AM
Ah cool thanks for the replies, ive signed up but i wont hold my breath waiting then  :lol:
I got an email from Sam the other day (to say that they have started monitoring the performance to a number of streaming sites) and it included the following...

If you know anyone who would be interested in joining this study by
volunteering to host a SamKnows Whitebox please ask them to apply
here -
http://cts.vresp.com/c/?SamKnows/7150f02638/9a38719703/f5ee7b5e36 .


They are obviously still looking for new participants so it might be worth re-applying
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: kitz on February 28, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
kitz my box is stuffed under a cabinet out of sight.

You would hate my setup :)

billion 8800nl (modem mode) -> asus ac66 (gateway) -> dlink dir615 (router acting as dumb switch) -> samnows box

At one time I used to have sambox -> modem/router -> GbE network switch  and also another router used to extend wifi range. 

Back then I used to have the sambox hidden under the desk so I never saw it, but I have built in units now and mostly because I only have 2 permanent devices attached via ethernet (the PC and NAS) I just wanted to get rid of the clutter and free up some plug sockets.

Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: kitz on February 28, 2015, 11:50:37 AM

If you know anyone who would be interested in joining this study by
volunteering to host a SamKnows Whitebox please ask them to apply
here -
http://cts.vresp.com/c/?SamKnows/7150f02638/9a38719703/f5ee7b5e36 .


They are obviously still looking for new participants so it might be worth re-applying

Thanks for sharing idb. :)
Title: Re: samknows boxes
Post by: loonylion on February 28, 2015, 12:35:04 PM
hmm now says there's already a user with my email. Wonder if that means I've been progressed through the system.