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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: dmcdonnell on August 12, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
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For Sale: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A Wireless N VDSL2 VoIP Combo WAN Gigabit Internet Access Device.
I have a few of these for sale at £50 each, including Registered Post to any EU country. The router is branded as "Eircom F1000". I purchased them in the second hand market here in Ireland. The bootloader has been unlocked using the method I published on this site. The latest version of the ZyXel OEM firmware is installed. I use this router for my VDSL broadband service and previously used it with ADSL2.
£5 from each sale will be donated to Kitz.co.uk
See the Kitz Review of the VMG8324-B10A: www.kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_review.htm
See the ZyXel site for details and documentation: http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/service_provider-dsl_cpes.shtml?t=c
You will receive the Router and Power supply in a padded bad. An Ethernet cable will not be included unless requested. Payment by paypal preferred.
Please PM me if interested.
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Purchased Zyxel and all up and running !!!!
Was on 3.5 - 4 Mbps Adsl2 (Sky)
Now 72-80 Mbps Vdsl2 (Plusnet) *** DLM running so changing ***
Very Happy !!!
I am getting 9-15 Mbps more 'Attainable Net Data Rate' than the Openreach HG612 Modem.
It gives me more headroom for when the 'Actual Net Data Rate' starts bouncing up/down due to DLM and more users being added to the Cab (Crosstalk).
DSLStats is up and running and I can monitor what happens to my line. ;D
Line Stats:
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VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 0 hour: 15 minutes
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VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.063 Mbps 80.103 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 19.999 Mbps 79.987 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 15.0 dB 17.1 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: 6.9 dBm 13.9 dBm
Receive Power: -7.1 dBm -1.9 dBm
Actual INP: 0.0 symbols 0.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 14.1 dB 15.8 dB
--------Zyxel------------
Attainable Net Data Rate: 34.515 Mbps 114.522 Mbps
--------HG612------------
Attainable Net Data Rate: 34.053 Mbps 105.620 Mbps
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VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 4.6 22.1 32.3 N/A 11.4 26.5 40.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 4.6 21.1 31.2 N/A 13.4 26.2 40.6
SNR Margin(dB): 15.4 14.9 15.0 N/A 17.1 17.1 17.1
Transmit Power(dBm):- 2.6 -21.2 6.5 N/A 11.4 7.7 7.1
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Many Thanks dmcdonnell for the Zyxel and Kitz is now also up £5, so all good.
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Excellent news :thumbs:
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Bumping this, because theres been a few queries on how to get a VMG8324-10A. The OEM versions are now like gold dust and have all sold out in the UK. :(
So if you want one, an unbranded F1000 is about the best alternative.
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I think it pretty silly to say max rate is higher than BT Openreach Modem because your line still capped at 79987K anyway, no big deal to buy it over max rate higher than BTO Modem.
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I think it pretty silly to say max rate is higher than BT Openreach Modem because your line still capped at 79987K anyway, no big deal to buy it over max rate higher than BTO Modem.
Im afraid I disagree with you there. All of us here who have been on FTTC for a while have seen our speeds reduced due to FeXT - So far Ive lost circa 20Mb. Once upon a time my max rate was at 105Mb - but FeXT soon ate away at that.
There are plenty who may have started on the full 80/20 but due to cross-talk their sync speeds deteriorate as more users are connected to the cab. You have to look at it in proportion and there are those who get less than 80Mbps but have got better sync speeds by putting on the Zyxel. In fact Ive yet to hear anyone who has got less sync speed - all have got more.
With the ZyXel my headline is currently circa 88Mbps. With the TPLink its 82Mbps. My SNRm is less with the TPlink and Im getting far more errors.
I dont get any downstream FECs with the ZyXEL, but I do with the TP-Link. With the TPlink Ive seen my SNRm drop down to below 6dB
Sync: 80000 (max)
SNRMargin 5.8 dB
In other words it was only just hanging on to 80Mbps - If Id done a resync at that time, then I wouldnt have got the full 80Mb. The ZyXel gives me far more headroom.
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and ironically Ive just this moment read your post here
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14434.0
Yes of course the TP-link is giving you more errors - its because your SNRm is lower than on the HG612 ???
Its the better SNRm that is giving you the extra headroom.. so now you see why it is important!
Edited to change link as Ive spilt your post to form its own thread
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Thanks for explain this to me. Look like I have to go back to standard BT Openreach Modem to be safeside as I don't want TP Link ruining my SNR lower and cause more errors and will end up nasty DLM anytime. As for ZyXel - it no longer selling elsewhere in UK. I wish I purchase this rather than TP Link. I am going to sent this TP Link back to broadbandbuyer for a refund under DSR 14 days.
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Another £5 donated to Kitz, thanks to Ronski.
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Bumping this, because theres been a few queries on how to get a VMG8324-10A. The OEM versions are now like gold dust and have all sold out in the UK. :(
So if you want one, an unbranded F1000 is about the best alternative.
yeah I noticed this is also sold out everywhere like the billion but unlike the billion it seems permanent.
what did they do just make a couple dozen and call it a day?
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Just adding here.. I think most of them atm are being used by Eircom and KCcom. Stuff-uk got a new stock of 36 in this week. link (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13769.msg270237#msg270237).
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2 x F1000 units sold to Kitz users recently. £10 donated to Kitz.co.uk
I received 4 x F1000 recently, all locked, still in their boxes. If you would like to unlock the F1000 yourself, just ask.
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Thank you :)
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Just ordered one of these, bargain price.
Looking forward to trying it out. Unsure whether to use this in place of the Asus DSL-AC68U or as a combination because I've found the Asus Wake on Lan useful when away from home.
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I've found the Asus Wake on Lan useful when away from home.
This any use to you?
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It is indeed. :)
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Received this morning, up and running in just a few minutes and so far so good.
Many thanks Dermot ;D
Update: After just an hour I have over 9600 CRCS and 410 ES = Not looking good. :o
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Update: After just an hour I have over 9600 CRCS and 410 ES = Not looking good. :o
That, definitely, is not good. :no:
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I've downloaded the latest V100AAKL6b2.bin firmware for the ZyXel and flashed it, I'll drop it back on tomorrow and watch the stats for an hour.
Update: 6b2 seems to be a great deal better, only 1 CRC and 1 ES in first 15 mins but still chalked up 40 ES over 1 hour.
Still not a worthy replacement to the ECI, so I'll stick with that and the ASUS for now.
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I've downloaded the latest V100AAKL6b2.bin firmware for the ZyXel and flashed it, I'll drop it back on tomorrow and watch the stats for an hour.
Update: 6b2 seems to be a great deal better, only 1 CRC and 1 ES in first 15 mins but still chalked up 40 ES over 1 hour.
Still not a worthy replacement to the ECI, so I'll stick with that and the ASUS for now.
Simon,
I'm pleased to see in your latest post that the latest firmware appears to have largely resolved the CRC and ES errors. Please keep us posted on your progress.
I have donated £5 to Kitz today.
Sadly, I do not have any more F1000s at the moment. They are becoming harder to find. I shall post again when I get one.
Regards,
Dermot.
Using the latest beta (V100AAKL6b4) from ZyXel - http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13930.msg273782#msg273782
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Has it been possible to source any more of these as I would be tempted to get one?
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Bought an 8924 off Ebay for under £80 and so far its performing better than the Billion 8800 and both OR modems .
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Bought an 8924 off Ebay for under £80 and so far its performing better than the Billion 8800 and both OR modems .
Sadly the ones on there now are considerably more than that!
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Just got a ZyXel VMG8324-B10A on ebay for £40 so looking forward to trying it out :)
Will keep an eye out for a 8924 though as I will miss my wireless AC
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I havent checked recently, but the last time I looked at the buy new prices.... Kcom was the cheapest for the VMG8924 and Eclipse cheapest for the VMG8324.
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After nearly a week, this has been the most stable modem/router I have used apart from the HH5 Type B. Errors are lower than both the HG612 and Billion 8800NL on my 80Mb Infinity 2 connection, My Type B HH5 does report a slightly higher attainable speed and actually syncs slightly higher, but gives a lower sync/attainable upstream. Clearly I don't know what sort of errors it is giving. Reported SNR seems higher with the Zyxel, the HH5 seems to be constantly at just below 6dB which may account for the sync speed. I also seem to recall a setting on my Asus DSL-AC68U which allowed you to force a higher downstream rate at the expense of upstream, and I wonder if this is what the HH5 is doing?
Using the latest AAKL.7 firmware, which allows me to run both DSL Stats and HG612 Modem Stats, so I am assuming the single Telnet session limitation has been removed. Also with the Billion I had to revert to the 0.38 DSL driver firmware to stop excessive errors which finally dropped my fastpath connection, but the 0.39i driver in the Zyxel seems to be performing flawlessly.
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I havent checked recently, but the last time I looked at the buy new prices.... Kcom was the cheapest for the VMG8924 and Eclipse cheapest for the VMG8324.
Which store is Kcom as I don't recognise it and google throws up a very different set of companies for this name?
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Sorry kcom's online store is
https://www.kc.co.uk/products/add-ons/mytech/features/
Same as with eclipse I believe they sell to non kcom'customers, you need to set up an account though.
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Sorry kcom's online store is
https://www.kc.co.uk/products/add-ons/mytech/features/
Same as with eclipse I believe they sell to non kcom'customers, you need to set up an account though.
Thanks Kitz - will see if the 8324 performs well when the ebay purchase turns up and if it does I'll look at getting an 8924 for the better wifi speeds as I think it has the same chipset
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Using the latest AAKL.7 firmware, which allows me to run both DSL Stats and HG612 Modem Stats, so I am assuming the single Telnet session limitation has been removed.
Not necessarily. If you have the "HG612-Modem-Stats co-operation" option set in DSLstats, the two programs will log on and off at different times.
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Using the latest AAKL.7 firmware, which allows me to run both DSL Stats and HG612 Modem Stats, so I am assuming the single Telnet session limitation has been removed.
Not necessarily. If you have the "HG612-Modem-Stats co-operation" option set in DSLstats, the two programs will log on and off at different times.
Thanks I wondered what that option did!!