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Computer Software => Linux => Topic started by: tickmike on January 16, 2008, 10:20:09 PM
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Hello.
I have downloaded the Pc Linux 2007 iso (from ie ), Burt it to a CD, Got an error message, told it to continue (yes I know I should not ) , tried to install it and yes we got a error that it could not find some file .
I have re-burnt it and get even more error messages.
Tried to download the check-sum (from ie site ) but it does not seam to download.
Can I only use the check sum From ie. ? or can I try to get one from another repository ?.
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Testing on a old (win2K ) test machine with TWO hard drives 1.3 & 10 gig.
Is it best to remove/ disconnect the 1.3 ?
Will Linux detect the two HDD ?
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Problems of this sort are almost always due to either a corrupted download or a bad burn. I don't know why you should have problems getting the MD5Sum, but here it is: cf31f44513c9b30caaa1f1d2c382c033 . You can get a Windows MD5Sum program Here (http://www.md5summer.org/download.html).
When you've got a verified download you just need to burn it as an image to a CD, and it may help to burn at a low speed to ensure a good result, although this shouldn't really be necessary.
The installer should have no problems recognising both disk drives, but depending on which one is the master drive you may have to tell it which one to use or it may select it correctly on its own.
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Problems of this sort are almost always due to either a corrupted download or a bad burn. I don't know why you should have problems getting the MD5Sum, but here it is: cf31f44513c9b30caaa1f1d2c382c033 . You can get a Windows MD5Sum program Here (http://www.md5summer.org/download.html).
When you've got a verified download you just need to burn it as an image to a CD, and it may help to burn at a low speed to ensure a good result, although this shouldn't really be necessary.
The installer should have no problems recognising both disk drives, but depending on which one is the master drive you may have to tell it which one to use or it may select it correctly on its own.
Thanks Eric .
May be I have not used a check sum before :-\, When I click the link all I got was the same numbers/ figures as you above.
What do I do with them ?
Or shall I get check sum from via your link.
How do I use it ?.
I use ImgBurn www.imgburn.com it's great for burning images to disks at x4 and it's free :)
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I don't know anything about Windows MD5Sum programs, but basically what you do is apply the program to the downloaded .iso image and compare the result with the value provided by the download site. If they don't match you have a corrupted download. In Linux I just type "md5sum -b downloadedimage.iso".
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I'm just about to install the Gnome 2.21.2 version of PCLinuxOS on an old machine today so that'll be interesting.
tickmike - MD5 is a hash function. Hash functions are one-way (in theory*) mathematical functions where it is impossible (in theory*) to determine the input to the function from the outputted hash. In practice this means that you can't alter the data put into the function such that you get the same MD5 hash output from the function.
For things like this the MD5 hash is used to verify that what you've downloaded is EXACTLY what was originally put in the download location - ie it verifies that nobody has altered the distribution iso file at a later date or in transit to you, which is more for security reasons than for failed download reasons. You don't "do" anything with it unless it doesn't match, in which case you try downloading again and if the MD5 hash still doesn't match then you should contact whoever is responsible for the distro to find out what is going on :)
*in practice there are "hash collisions" which mess the theory up somewhat. One day I might resurrect/update the encryption articles I did for The Caretaker's site a few years ago. If I get very very bored indeed :D
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After re-writing the CD Rom, I have got it working running from Ram, :)
Come to install to HDD It says "Double-click the desktop icon "Install PCLinuxOS"." But there is no Icon !, On the 'Guest' or 'Root' settings. :(
Is there a Terminal or some method to install to HDD ?.
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There was an Install Wizard icon on the desktop of the Guest account in the Gnome edition. I assume that's not there on the KDE edition?
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There was an Install Wizard icon on the desktop of the Guest account in the Gnome edition. I assume that's not there on the KDE edition?
I think it should be.
I have found the 'Console' but do not know the command line to put in.
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I believe /usr/sbin/draklive-install is the command.
You need root privileges obviously.
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I believe /usr/sbin/draklive-install is the command.
You need root privileges obviously.
Thanks ..now installing. :)
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I think I'll try following this tomorrow :
http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_pclinuxos_2007
The box I'm installing it on is intended for neighbours who aren't all that PC-literate and that list seems perfect - covers just about everything without being overwhelming.
Hopefully the wireless bridge will have enough signal strength to connect them into our network so they can use our internet connection. They have Sky so once they're sure they'd use the internet then they ought to be able to get the basic ADSL package for nothing.
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Well I finally got it to install to HDD :), I think for a Beginner Ubuntu 7.10 installs easier, they would have less things to configure on the way.
I now have some icons on my desktop (running from the CD I had none ) and I have the one to 'install P C LinuxOS' :'(
Do you know how I do any Updates ?. Is there an updater ? like Ubuntu , That installs all the latest software.
That link looks interesting, I my try that some time.
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PCLinuxOS uses Synaptic as its package manager. You should find it on the menu or as a quick launch icon on the bottom panel. You will be asked for the root password when you run it. Then click the 'reload' button to refresh the local index. After that you can (for example) click the status button, and you will see at the left side various categories including one for upgradable packages. As PCLOS 2007 is several months old now, there will be a rather large list of upgradable packages.
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PCLinuxOS uses Synaptic as its package manager. You should find it on the menu or as a quick launch icon on the bottom panel. You will be asked for the root password when you run it. Then click the 'reload' button to refresh the local index. After that you can (for example) click the status button, and you will see at the left side various categories including one for upgradable packages. As PCLOS 2007 is several months old now, there will be a rather large list of upgradable packages.
Thanks Eric,
Up-dating started , Yet again I think Ubuntu is easier to do.
606mb of downloads :'( I'm on a set 3Gb per month with my ISP :'(
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I think for a Beginner Ubuntu 7.10 installs easier, they would have less things to configure on the way.
Apart from the problem I had with the partitions (which was really my own fault) I can't see how there could be less things to configure. I picked a ntp pool and set the keyboard locale, but apart from that there wasn't anything which required configuring. That was the Gnome version right enough but I'm going to try the KDE version in about 30 minutes so I'll see if there's any difference.....
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OK there IS an install icon on the desktop, so I think we can safely say that your problems stem from a dodgy CD burn tickmike.
I deliberately trashed the MBR and partition tables on this disk prior to install but the installer ran into problems as somehow it still saw an old ext3 partition. Dealt with that by recovering the partition and then deleting it. So I thought let's reboot and run from scratch. For most people this won't happen as you won't have old disks with various filesystems lying about :D Anyway - onwards.
Rebooted. Prompted to set the keyboard - set to UK; chose GMT and the UK ntp pool for time sync; chose ethernet for connection and selected the relevant network adaptor; chose automatic IP and then clicked through the next three screens without changing the defaults.
Login as guest and double click the "Install PCLinuxOS" icon. Enter the root password and then clicked through all the rest of the screens without changing the defaults. Wait for files copying. Click through the bootloader options without making changes and enter a new root password. Create a couple of users. Reboot and log into user account.
Use Synaptic package manager to "Reload" and then "Mark All Upgrades". Set it going and wait for the 606MB of updates to download/install. That's where I am now.
The only things I've had to really do are change the keyboard locale to UK, set the time zone and select the UK ntp pool. Everything else was just the default settings.
Looks like the updates are nearly complete - back in a bit.
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I now have a DVD playing in MPlayer with sound. :thumbs:
However.....
Kaffeine claims I don't have sufficient rights to play the disk or it may be damaged.
KMPlayer plays the mandatory BBC copyright notice and "jingle" with sound then stops playing. Trying to open any of the titles just results in the copyright/jingle playing again.
Any ideas Eric?
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Not really I'm afraid. I don't have any commercial DVDs to try, but I just tried a few samplers that came with The Times, and they all play perfectly with Kaffeine. I'm using a different distro (Debian Testing) so that doesn't prove anything except that Kaffeine works.
The only thing which seems likely is that it's to do with regional coding, as you said before. I suppose you haven't got a US DVD player in your PC have you? I seem to recall reading somewhere about some PC DVD players being locked to the wrong region.
I see that, in addition to libdvdcss2 I also have a package called libdvdread3 installed. I guess that it might be worth checking if there are any more dvd-related packages which you need to install.
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Sorted.
It IS to do with the DVD drive region coding. The DVD drive (in common with many PC DVD drives) doesn't actually have region coding set - you could set it if you wished but most people don't as in Windows its on the properties sheet for the DVD drive which is under Device Manager. In short its well hidden. So most drives are never actually locked to a region.
What's required is to tell Kaffeine to "pretend" to be the correct region. Then it all works fine :)
KMPlayer was user incompetence :D
Just need to put VMWare on later and job done.
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>> KMPlayer was user incompetence
We're all allowed a bit of that (thank heavens) :D
I'm pleased you solved it anyway.
I use VMWare Server too. The Linux version works well. You'll have to install the kernel source (or at least the kernel headers if they are available as a separate package) because in most cases the VMWare installer has to build itself a kernel module on your system.
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I have to say I am extremely impressed. I've only found myself at the command line once - to install Acrobat. This is definitely ready for the average user - perhaps with the addition of a Cedega sub (£3/month IIRC) for gamesplayers.
This machine has everything from DVD/video authoring/ripping apps through MP3 player tools, Skype, torrent clients, home accounts package, OpenOffice, web authoring tools, media/TV players etc etc etc on it now.
I really can't get over how simple it all is to install and more importantly how easy it now is to add and remove software apps.
No need for a blood sacrifice to the god of dependencies now :D
Edit - really the only thing that (IMHO) needs doing is to somehow give newbies a bit more of a guide as to which apps to install, given that there's thousands of them in the package manager :)
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>>> Edit - really the only thing that (IMHO) needs doing is to somehow give newbies a bit more of a guide as to which
>>> apps to install, given that there's thousands of them in the package manager
That's a fair point. It would have to be a rather short list, because all of those thousands of packages have a purpose for someone. What some distros do is to have a wiki with this sort of information in the 'getting started' section, and many have specific advice for multimedia applications (for example). In some cases (e.g. Ubuntu) the sheer volume of information is a bit overwhelming to a newcomer, and the Linux mantra ("You always have a choice") can put off some people.
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I'd forgotten how good the Linux CPU scheduler was. This is SO much more responsive than WinXP its quite startling.
I'm sorely tempted to try it on a multi-core machine :)
Edit - the machine its on now is an old Athlon 3000+ with 1GB RAM, 160GB hard drive, built in GeForce(something) graphics. In fact everything is on the motherboard although I may try putting a Compro DVB-T300 TV card in there just to see if I can get it going :)
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You may have to do a bit of research to get that DVB card working. I've seen messages from people who have succeeded with it, so it's certainly possible. If it's one of the kind which load firmware files at boot time you'll have to trace the right file and copy it to /lib/firmware/. Kaffeine is the best program for viewing digital TV, apart from MythTV which is a pig to configure.
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There's Mandriva rpms for the card on the Compro site. Am I likely to run into problems installing those on PCLOS 2007?
Linky :
http://www.comprousa.com/New/en/download/tseries.html
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Sorry for delay in replying. Generally it's better to avoid Mandriva RPMs with PCLinuxOS, even though the one is derived from the other. But a driver is a standalone package which doesn't interact with other packages, so I would say it's worth a try. I can't see that it could break anything.
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Thanks Eric but I've had a rethink. As I'm giving the machine away I'm not going to put a perfectly serviceable TV card in it. Dunno what I was thinking really :)
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A fit of madness, obviously. I get those sometimes. ;D