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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: Howlingwolf on October 22, 2013, 09:26:34 PM

Title: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 22, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
I got the usb ttl interface today. Took things slowly and carefully as it's been a while since I did any soldering but it actually went quite well despite that.

I've now got a full flash dump of the new firmware. According to the header info, this is software version V100R001C01B030SP06.

At a first pass it looks like this update is solely about removing access to the modem. Greybeard was right about the web interface files being missing (webidx and webimg). The binary is also gone (/bin/web), along with the bftpd and tr064 binaries.

There are also two significant changes in the default config. The telnet username and password have been changed and LAN2 appears to have been disabled rather than simply relying on the firewall setting to block access. <LANEthernetInterfaceConfigInstance> entries 2-4 now have Enable="0".

I shall take a closer look tomorrow but it's not looking too good at the moment  :(
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 22, 2013, 10:01:30 PM
Well done Wolfy. :thumbs:

Do you think it might be feasible to extract the latest Broadcom driver blob and insert it into the earlier version of the firmware?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 22, 2013, 10:38:20 PM
Thank you for the progress report

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The telnet username and password have been changed and LAN2 appears to have been disabled rather than simply relying on the firewall setting to block access.

The removal of the GUI could perhaps be explained as 'lazyness' or to make more room if we were being generous.  However your new findings would certainly suggest an attempt to block access.   

Why Ive no idea what they think they are going to achieve - its not like anything bad can be done.   The ones who currently have an unlocked version are hardly the type who are going to be messing and botch things up then go crying to BT.  The HH5 is just being released as an all in unit so why do this on something that will soon no longer be supplied?   Whats the big deal about getting information about your line?

Oh wait!  We can tell if theres something wrong, rather than just accept what were told. 
The sooner the likes of Netgear et all get their act together and start producing a half decent affordable VDSL router the better.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 22, 2013, 11:06:10 PM
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The sooner the likes of Netgear et all get their act together and start producing a half decent affordable VDSL router the better.

Or the OpenWrt wizards put together a release suitable for the Lantiq powered HH5, perhaps?  :-\

I'm sure there is somebody, somewhere, with their 'disembowelling tongs' at the ready, just waiting for a HH5 to become available.  :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Greybeard33 on October 22, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
There are also two significant changes in the default config. The telnet username and password have been changed and LAN2 appears to have been disabled rather than simply relying on the firewall setting to block access. <LANEthernetInterfaceConfigInstance> entries 2-4 now have Enable="0".
In view of this, it is puzzling that the remote update process does not always reset the config to default.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 23, 2013, 02:29:31 AM
Well done Wolfy. :thumbs:

Thank you. It's nice to have one's efforts appreciated  :blush:


Do you think it might be feasible to extract the latest Broadcom driver blob and insert it into the earlier version of the firmware?

I'm not sure. The kernel has been rebuilt (Sat Jun 1 18:28:34 CST 2013) so it might not load in the older one. It's certainly something I'm going to try.

Along with the no doubt doomed attempt to restore the web interface  :-\

I going to start with something much simpler of course, re-enabling telnet access. That should be fairly straight forward. Two settings plus the firewall level if I've read things correctly.

I'm going to take a closer look at the differences between the old and new root filesystems first before I do that.


Oh wait!  We can tell if theres something wrong, rather than just accept what were told. 

Yep. That would be it  ::)


There are also two significant changes in the default config. The telnet username and password have been changed and LAN2 appears to have been disabled rather than simply relying on the firewall setting to block access. <LANEthernetInterfaceConfigInstance> entries 2-4 now have Enable="0".
In view of this, it is puzzling that the remote update process does not always reset the config to default.

Yes indeed. The only thing I can think of is some change in the config is responsible. I'm tempted to run it through the update cycle again with a changed LAN IP but that would bring everything else to a halt as I don't have a spare... spare modem  :lol:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 23, 2013, 03:09:02 AM
Are you saying that you do not have a copy of the current firmware image in a suitable state so that it can be uploaded to the device, via the Broadcom boot-loader?  :-\
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on October 23, 2013, 10:25:54 AM
So the telnet user name and password has been changed, but would I be correct in understanding that this is only updated when the modem is reset?

What is the new  user name and password?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bbnovice on October 23, 2013, 05:33:53 PM

At a first pass it looks like this update is solely about removing access to the modem. Greybeard was right about the web interface files being missing (webidx and webimg). The binary is also gone (/bin/web), along with the bftpd and tr064 binaries.

I shall take a closer look tomorrow but it's not looking too good at the moment  :(

Hats off to you Wolfy !!!!  ;D

But I'm a little perplexed. I know that whilst some (including me - and I believe you) lost telnet access, others have not. If I'm correct the update doesn't appear to be working 100% as BT intended if its sole purpose is to block modem access. Or am I missing something?

BBN 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 23, 2013, 06:48:27 PM
Are you saying that you do not have a copy of the current firmware image in a suitable state so that it can be uploaded to the device, via the Broadcom boot-loader?  :-\

A slight mis-communication there. It was simply a way of testing what effect, if any, changing the config would have on the update process.

Although now you mention it... I don't have a copy of the new firmware image suitable for uploading  :-\

But not to worry. Thanks to Asbokid's toolkit producing one is a fairly trivial exercise now I have the flashdump and have extracted the various components  ;D


So the telnet user name and password has been changed, but would I be correct in understanding that this is only updated when the modem is reset?

What is the new  user name and password?

I could tell you that but then I'd have to....  Oops... Sorry. Wrong movie  ;D

Here they are:

Username: mLQp%k=b
Password: hNdq/Kggn5n8XfFpd6uqzQ==


Oh I'm sorry. Did I forget to mention they've been obphosilogged :P

Seriously, this isn't BGW. Unless Huawei/Openreach have blundered badly in implementing whatever hash and/or encryption method they're using, they're virtually bulletproof.

With what I learned today (see below), I suspect the only way to regain access is to replace the config.


But I'm a little perplexed. I know that whilst some (including me - and I believe you) lost telnet access, others have not. If I'm correct the update doesn't appear to be working 100% as BT intended if its sole purpose is to block modem access. Or am I missing something?

No, you're not missing anything the rest of us didn't.

I was looking at the following two areas of Asbokid's memory map with the idea of re-enabling telnet by rewriting the config block using the jtag port.

Code: [Select]
B875 0000 - B875 FFFF   CMS config.xml for MAIN image (0x4F48 of 0x10000 bytes used)
B876 0000 - B876 FFFF   CMS config.xml for SLAVE image (0x4F48 of 0x10000 bytes used)

'MAIN' was completely blank (0xFF) and 'SLAVE' contained the string 'invaild' at address B8760000, the rest was blank (0xFF).

I remembered seeing an error msg about a config file in the boot log so I took another look and found the following.

Code: [Select]
Waiting for cli start! |Config File is error. Havn't start or end tag.
Now read the backup configuration!!!
The second Config File is error. Havn't start or end tag.
read default config file!!!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't able to alter the boot flag so I re-flashed the 'plain' unlocked firmware, rebooted and got the same msg. I then changed the admin password to 'Huawei', rebooted again and the error msg was gone. Just the 'Waiting for cli start!' msg remained.

Both areas now contained identical copies of the changed config.

Restoring the default settings by pressing the button and through the web interface erases both areas and writes the string 'invaild' at the start. So it looks like these are actually the 'user defined' master and backup configs for both images. They are only created when the config is changed from the default.

This is why some people still had telnet access while others lost both.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 23, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
wow seems a mess, I think the easiest option is probably new blob on old firmware. I dont think the kernel version will be an issue for that.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Greybeard33 on October 23, 2013, 08:51:40 PM
Restoring the default settings by pressing the button and through the web interface erases both areas and writes the string 'invaild' at the start. So it looks like these are actually the 'user defined' master and backup configs for both images. They are only created when the config is changed from the default.

This is why some people still had telnet access while others lost both.
Ah, so those of us who have still got telnet access must have saved a change to the config after flashing the unlocked firmware? In my case I am struggling to remember making any change - maybe something to do with the logging.

For anyone who wants to get telnet access back but keep the new BLOB, I guess the easiest way would be to re-flash the original unlocked firmware, save some minor change to the config through the web UI, then wait for the BT Agent to re-flash the update?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 24, 2013, 02:52:51 AM
wow seems a mess, I think the easiest option is probably new blob on old firmware. I dont think the kernel version will be an issue for that.

heh. It only seems like a mess because I tried to explain how I reached my conclusions.

As for blobs and other entities...  Patience young human, patience. I'm getting there  ;)


Ah, so those of us who have still got telnet access must have saved a change to the config after flashing the unlocked firmware? In my case I am struggling to remember making any change - maybe something to do with the logging.

I've since tested that 'update with changed config' scenario by changing the config then flashing the original, unmodified B030SP10 firmware. I still had telnet access until I restored the defaults.


For anyone who wants to get telnet access back but keep the new BLOB, I guess the easiest way would be to re-flash the original unlocked firmware, save some minor change to the config through the web UI, then wait for the BT Agent to re-flash the update?

Indeed you could...

Or alternatively you could use the new firmware image I've built for the purpose  :P


The following MEGA folder contains three files:

bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent - B028SP10 based firmware.
- 'New' blob (A2pv6C035m.d22g). A2pv6C038m.d24j
- BTAgent, web interface component and BT firewall settings stripped.
- ptm1.301 'back channel' removed.
- ACS wan access rule removed from standard firewall setting.
- Default timezone set to GMT (was Beijing), uk.pool.ntp.org ntp servers added to list.
- Save config option restored.
- Minor typo and grammatic errors corrected.
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_original - The latest version. No changes. Locked.
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked - Unlocked version of the above.
- Telnet username and password replaced.
- LAN Ethernet interfaces 2-4 re-enabled
- BT firewall settings stripped

https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w)


The B028SP10 version is the one I mentioned before. It's been 'on test' for a week now and appears to be perfectly stable. I'm unable to judge how well it performs compared to the original SP10 blob as I had a line fault repaired just as the new firmware was being pushed out.

Both the locked and unlocked variants of the new firmware have been flashed and boot cleanly. Telnet access is available on the latter using the same defaults as before. Neither has been 'line tested' as yet but there is no reason to expect any problems in that area.

As always, let me know if there are any problems, comments, suggestions, etc.


Please see this thread for latest firmware updates (Aug 2014)
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14262.0



[edited by Admin to correct firmware version]
edited by Admin to point to new firmware version
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on October 24, 2013, 06:22:06 AM
Well done  Howlingwolf, you're a star  :thumbs:

I shall be downloading as soon as I get my PC turned on. 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 24, 2013, 07:48:18 AM
That's great work HW!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 24, 2013, 11:55:52 AM
I've flashed one of my HG612s , which previously had Asbokid's unlocked firmware, with the SP10 image. It appears to be working well on my TT ADSL2+ connection. The upgrade preserved all of my configuration, so it worked immediately with no more setting up required.

Both upstream and downstream connection speeds are a little higher than before the upgrade, and higher than I've had on this connection in recent months. I can confirm that the BTAgent processes are absent.

Excellent job HW.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 24, 2013, 12:17:50 PM
great work howlingwolf but I cant figure out how to download of that site and choose a folder to put the files.  IT seems to be trying to force some kind of integrated download manager on me.

ok never mind figured it out now.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: One2Go on October 24, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
Thanks mate
I have just downloaded it and will let you know the results

 Chrysalis
Just right click on folder and download as a zip try using Google chrome firefox(latest ) has a bug and does not always work with Mega
Title: oops...
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 24, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
I've just discovered that the unlocked version of the new firmware I uploaded to MEGA was built with the broken version of mksquashfs  :-[

Entirely my own fault. I finally managed to identify and fix the issue which was stopping me from rebuilding Asbokid's tools for a 32bit system and immediately starting transferring all my HG612 research, work in progress, etc. from the virtual machine to the native install.

In the process of this, (and my hurry to 'get back to it' no doubt), I forgot to remove the broken mksquashfs which had just been built and replace it with the pre-built, working version supplied in the toolkit.

Unfortunately, it's going to be a couple of hours or so before I can upload a replacement. In the meantime all I can do is apologise profoundly and ask you to be patient.


EDIT: All fixed.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 24, 2013, 06:33:11 PM
Thanks for doing that HW. I'm sure that apologies are unnecessary.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 24, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
An excellent job, very well done, Mr Wolf.  :dance:  :silly:

Thank you for creating and sharing your firmware images.  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on October 24, 2013, 09:30:16 PM
Well done  Howlingwolf, you're a star  :thumbs:

I shall be downloading as soon as I get my PC turned on.


Have you had chance to give this a go on a live connection yet?

If so, is the new addition to xlogfile.txt still picking up this as the firmware version:-

DSL PHY: AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j

Title: Re: oops...
Post by: One2Go on October 24, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
I've just discovered that the unlocked version of the new firmware I uploaded to MEGA was built with the broken version of mksquashfs  :-[

Entirely my own fault. I finally managed to identify and fix the issue which was stopping me from rebuilding Asbokid's tools for a 32bit system and immediately starting transferring all my HG612 research, work in progress, etc. from the virtual machine to the native install.

In the process of this, (and my hurry to 'get back to it' no doubt), I forgot to remove the broken mksquashfs which had just been built and replace it with the pre-built, working version supplied in the toolkit.

Unfortunately, it's going to be a couple of hours or so before I can upload a replacement. In the meantime all I can do is apologise profoundly and ask you to be patient.


EDIT: All fixed.
Hi mate no worries at all.
I did wonder what happened
I tried it over and over and nothing  . it flashes it ok but no access.

Please let me know when you are ready. Thanks

I have a question still
While i was having trouble with your image(broken as you said) I decided to reflash the original from asbokid and still no access no telnet . this is the image i am now using to access the net the modem works fine still
I wonder what has happened? mind you i do have original modem ECI /r  from BT locked up in a safe for SOS moment
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on October 24, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
Have you had chance to give this a go on a live connection yet?

If so, is the new addition to xlogfile.txt still picking up this as the firmware version:-

DSL PHY: AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j

I've downloaded it, but was only going to keep it in case it was required, but when I get chance I  could flash the spare modem.  I would need to know how to change the IP address,  which I think has been posted on here somewhere.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Greybeard33 on October 24, 2013, 11:52:15 PM
Brilliant, HW!

This does make BT's attempt to further restrict user access to the modem look [content removed by admin] Very strange.

So the additional telnet blocking only works if the user has not previously been tinkering?

One further point - asbokid's blog states that BT's HG612V100R001C01B028SP06 firmware was superseded by HG612V100R001C01B028SP10, on which his original unlocked version was based. However, the new BT firmware is identified as HG612V100R001C01B030SP06. Does this perhaps imply that it has been derived from the older 028SP06 rather than the 028SP10?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 02:48:00 AM
Hi mate no worries at all.
I did wonder what happened
I tried it over and over and nothing  . it flashes it ok but no access.

Please let me know when you are ready. Thanks

I have a question still
While i was having trouble with your image(broken as you said) I decided to reflash the original from asbokid and still no access no telnet . this is the image i am now using to access the net the modem works fine still
I wonder what has happened? mind you i do have original modem ECI /r  from BT locked up in a safe for SOS moment

If you still can't get access after flashing Asbokid's unlocked image then it might be a config issue.  Try restoring the default settings by pressing and holding the reset button for ~10 seconds. You'll then be starting from a known good configuration and can proceed from there.

As far as I've been able to determine the broken mksquashfs tool only affects one very specific file and certainly wouldn't block telnet access. I didn't even known I'd made a mistake until I starting testing a new build which included that file and I did test the images before 'posting' them.


Brilliant, HW!

This does make BT's attempt to further restrict user access to the modem look [content removed by admin] Very strange.

It does seem a bit haphazard, doesn't it? 

It appears that restoring the web interface is simply a matter of copying the files into the new root filesystem and re-inserting the start cmd into /etc/bootfile.txt. :'(

I've tested as much of it as I can and it appears to be fully functional. Now all I need is a couple of brave volunteers to poke it with a sharp stick and see how it reacts.


One further point - asbokid's blog states that BT's HG612V100R001C01B028SP06 firmware was superseded by HG612V100R001C01B028SP10, on which his original unlocked version was based. However, the new BT firmware is identified as HG612V100R001C01B030SP06. Does this perhaps imply that it has been derived from the older 028SP06 rather than the 028SP10?

They could be major/minor version or build and 'stepping' numbers. It would make sense for the minor version/'stepping' number to revert to a lower value if the major version/build number has increased.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 25, 2013, 03:09:53 AM
Brilliant, HW!

One further point - asbokid's blog states that BT's HG612V100R001C01B028SP06 firmware was superseded by HG612V100R001C01B028SP10, on which his original unlocked version was based. However, the new BT firmware is identified as HG612V100R001C01B030SP06. Does this perhaps imply that it has been derived from the older 028SP06 rather than the 028SP10?

if looking at the numbers so 28 is the major version and SP06 as the subversion then I would put the order of old to new like this.

28SP06
28SP10
30SP06
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 25, 2013, 03:14:47 AM
if looking at the numbers so 28 is the major version and SP06 as the subversion then I would put the order of old to new like this.

28SP06
28SP10
30SP06

I will concur with your suggestion, Chrys.  :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 25, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
I've now flashed my second HG612 with the B030SP06_unlocked firmware, and it's looking good. I'm using it now (on TT ADSL2+), and the connection speed when it started up was the highest I've had for many months. Everything else appears to be working normally, and DSLstats is plotting all its data as it should.

I feel slightly uncomfortable without a GUI interface, but that aside, this looks like the best firmware yet, and a first class job by HW, for which, many thanks.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 25, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
will the fixed firmware be labeled differently on the site to download?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
I've now flashed my second HG612 with the B030SP06_unlocked firmware, and it's looking good. I'm using it now (on TT ADSL2+), and the connection speed when it started up was the highest I've had for many months. Everything else appears to be working normally, and DSLstats is plotting all its data as it should.

I feel slightly uncomfortable without a GUI interface, but that aside, this looks like the best firmware yet, and a first class job by HW, for which, many thanks.

That's excellent news.

I'm unable to 'line test' them myself because I only have the one spare modem which I'm using to flash and test new builds. However the real 'killer' is that except for the one incident a few weeks ago, my line is and always has been a rock solid 80/20. There is simply nothing for me to compare between the different builds.

I've got the gui working. It turned out to be really simple, just a matter of copying the files across and re-inserting the start cmd into /etc/bootfile.txt.

Which is just as well, the new blob segfaults in the B028SP10 firmware. To be honest, I didn't think it would work when I saw the kernel had been rebuilt.

At the moment I'm trying to test as many of the gui options as I can while watching for errors on the serial console. It's rather slow going  :'(
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 01:15:07 PM
will the fixed firmware be labeled differently on the site to download?

Sorry. Perhaps I could have made that clearer.

It's already done. The 'new' version has the same filename with a later upload time (2013-10-24 17:40).

I didn't want to have multiple versions of the same firmware hanging around, (xxx_unlocked, xxx_unlocked-fixed, xxx_unlocked-003). Particularly as there may be a new... new version soon. It could get confusing  :-\
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 25, 2013, 03:17:35 PM
Well done HW - Excellent work.
This is fantastic news  :clap: :clap2:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 25, 2013, 03:21:22 PM
A heads up that Im going to be editing a few posts in a minute.

I totally agree that I see no point in what they have done - the previous situation harmed no-one least of all BT :/ 
But we dont want to make things easy for the other side & give them hints what to do next for future releases.   
They come up with enough of their own ideas :D :D

Im not taking any content away from HWs excellent work or what he has done. 
Just something else I noticed by other posters (which included quoted posts) that may prompt them to up the ante in future.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 25, 2013, 03:27:02 PM
if looking at the numbers so 28 is the major version and SP06 as the subversion then I would put the order of old to new like this.

I will concur with your suggestion, Chrys.  :)
Yep from me too

B28SP06
B28SP10
B30SP06

B probably = Build and SP = Service Pack?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 25, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
One thing I've seen with the B030SP06_unlocked firmware - the BTAgent processes are still running, so you do need to kill them if you don't want to be subject to future remote upgrades.

Code: [Select]
# ps
  PID  Uid        VSZ Stat Command
    1 0           336 S   init               
    2 0               SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
    3 0               SW< [events/0]
    4 0               SW< [khelper]
    5 0               SW< [kthread]
   19 0               SW< [kblockd/0]
   32 0               SW  [pdflush]
   33 0               SW  [pdflush]
   34 0               SWN [kswapd0]
   35 0               SW< [aio/0]
   49 0               SW  [mtdblockd]
   59 0           400 S   -/bin/sh
  101 0               SW  [dsl0]
  116 0               SW  [eth0]
  127 0           504 S   mc
  128 0           284 S   console
  129 0           504 S   mc
  130 0           504 S   mc
  131 0           380 S   /bin/msg msg
  132 0           584 S   /bin/log
  133 0           464 S   /bin/klog
  134 0           584 S   /bin/log
  135 0           584 S   /bin/log
  136 0          1120 S   /bin/dbase
  137 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  138 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  139 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  140 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  141 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  142 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  143 0          1624 S   /bin/cms
  144 0          1148 S   /bin/cwmp
  145 0          1624 S   /bin/cms
  162 0           284 S   console
  163 0           284 S   console
  164 0           284 S   console
  202 0           336 S   zebra -f /var/zebra/zebra.conf
  204 0           336 S   ripd -f /var/zebra/ripd.conf
  283 0          1624 S   /bin/cms
  284 0          1624 S   /bin/cms
  316 0           656 S   dhcps
  318 0           240 S   ipcheck
  528 0           488 S   pppc -I ppp256
  534 0           504 S   monitor
  535 0           504 S   monitor
  536 0           504 S   monitor
  552 0           380 S   dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/dnsmasq.conf
  632 0           444 S   sntp
  642 0           292 S   sshd -E
  645 0           232 S   mcast -l /var/upg.bin -d -f 10 -P 37123 239.10.0.100
  664 0               SWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd1]
  666 0          1132 S   MidServer
  670 0           380 S   /bin/sh /BTAgent/ro/start
  673 0           840 S   ./btagent
  674 0           840 S   ./btagent
  675 0           840 S   ./btagent
  676 0           840 S   ./btagent
 5071 0           992 S   /bin/cli
 5072 0           992 S   /bin/cli
 5073 0           404 S   /bin/sh -si
 5074 0           400 S   /bin/sh -si
 5079 0           324 R   ps
#
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Greybeard33 on October 25, 2013, 04:18:53 PM
A heads up that Im going to be editing a few posts in a minute.

I totally agree that I see no point in what they have done - the previous situation harmed no-one least of all BT :/ 
But we dont want to make things easy for the other side & give them ideas.

Im not taking any content away from HWs excellent work or what he has done.  Just something else I noticed by other posters (which included quoted posts) that may prompt them to up the ante in future.
Sorry about that post Kitz - I take your point.

However, a thought that has since occurred to me is that perhaps the reason for the changes might be nothing to do with the small number of users who have harmlessly unlocked their own modem to access the stats. Maybe, just maybe, BTOR is concerned about the possible risk of an unknown security vulnerability in the modem firewall, which, if exploited, might enable an malicious attacker to access the web and telnet interfaces of the locked firmware from the internet. I believe such vulnerabilities have been discovered in other modems/routers in the past. Given the large installed base of HG612s, public disclosure of such an attack vector could clearly cause havoc. So it might make sense, as a preemptive second tier of defence, for the update to remove the GUI and change the telnet password.

Pure speculation though.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 25, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Great work. It would be really nice to have web interface with the B30SP06 version.  I can only report further adsl2 tests on TTB but with annex m.  Annex m could not be enabled on the original unlocked firmware but does work on the "new blob" 035 and  this latest blob 038.  Below are quick results for an HG622, and an HG612 with 035 and 038.  No significant difference in this simple test.  Would be good to see FTTC results as, since it is only two years after the first expected date, one day that may reach me. 

HG622   
            Downstream   Upstream                  
Attenuation (dB):          25.0      9.6
Connection speed (kbps):   15603      1719
SNR margin (dB):           6.1      6.0

HG612 035
            Downstream   Upstream
Attenuation (dB):          25.0      8.9
Connection speed (kbps):   15473      1615
SNR margin (dB):           6.3      6.5
       

HG612 038
            Downstream   Upstream
Attenuation (dB):          25.0      8.9
Connection speed (kbps):   15509      1727
SNR margin (dB):           6.3      7.0

back to HG622
Attenuation (dB):          25.5      9.3
Connection speed (kbps):   15659      1671
SNR margin (dB):           6.1      6.5
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
A heads up that Im going to be editing a few posts in a minute.

I totally agree that I see no point in what they have done - the previous situation harmed no-one least of all BT :/ 
But we dont want to make things easy for the other side & give them hints what to do next for future releases.   
They come up with enough of their own ideas :D :D

Im not taking any content away from HWs excellent work or what he has done. 
Just something else I noticed by other posters (which included quoted posts) that may prompt them to up the ante in future.

Um... Yes... Good point  :-[

We know for a fact that BT's security bods monitor this forum as they've 'reached out' (as Zack would put it  ;D) in the past.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
One thing I've seen with the B030SP06_unlocked firmware - the BTAgent processes are still running, so you do need to kill them if you don't want to be subject to future remote upgrades.

I started off in the same way as Asbokid with his original unlock - on which all of my work is based of course. Just the minimum number of changes necessary to restore telnet access and no more.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 25, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
Sorry about that post Kitz - I take your point.

nps GB, just erring on the side of caution.   :)

Quote
However, a thought that has since occurred to me is that perhaps the reason for the changes might be nothing to do with the small number of users who have harmlessly unlocked their own modem to access the stats. Maybe, just maybe, BTOR is concerned about the possible risk of an unknown security vulnerability in the modem firewall, which, if exploited, might enable an malicious attacker to access the web and telnet interfaces of the locked firmware from the internet. I believe such vulnerabilities have been discovered in other modems/routers in the past. Given the large installed base of HG612s, public disclosure of such an attack vector could clearly cause havoc. So it might make sense, as a preemptive second tier of defence, for the update to remove the GUI and change the telnet password.

Pure speculation though.

Yes that would be it - cough-...  now its sorted...  go away BT and find something more useful to do. ;)

If need be, make things read only so plebs dont accidentally edit what they dont need to...if thats what it takes.  But please don't take away the ability to monitor what our lines are doing, from those who are competent to do things and not go whining to BT if something breaks.
Over the years the ability to monitor line stats in conjunction with tools such as RS/DSLstats/Modem Stats  & forums like this must have saved BT an absolute fortune in diagnostics.  Not to mention how many people have been helped on forums such as this saving time and trouble and expense to ISP help desks.    Its totally counter-productive.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 25, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
I started off in the same way as Asbokid with his original unlock - on which all of my work is based of course. Just the minimum number of changes necessary to restore telnet access and no more.


Yes, I guessed that was the case, and no criticism was intended. Your work has already been of productive benefit to me.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bbnovice on October 25, 2013, 07:10:36 PM


However, a thought that has since occurred to me is that perhaps the reason for the changes might be nothing to do with the small number of users who have harmlessly unlocked their own modem to access the stats. Maybe, just maybe, BTOR is concerned about the possible risk of an unknown security vulnerability in the modem firewall, which, if exploited, might enable an malicious attacker to access the web and telnet interfaces of the locked firmware from the internet. I believe such vulnerabilities have been discovered in other modems/routers in the past. Given the large installed base of HG612s, public disclosure of such an attack vector could clearly cause havoc. So it might make sense, as a preemptive second tier of defence, for the update to remove the GUI and change the telnet password.

Pure speculation though.

I was thinking along the same sort of lines but then it struck me that even if the HG612 firewall were to be compromised, the router firewall would still continue to provide a second line of defence. Or is that technically incorrect?

I'm of the opinion that the modem update is possible a precursor to another, more important, change. But what?     
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 07:11:31 PM
If need be, make things read only so plebs dont accidentally edit what they dont need to...if thats what it takes.  But please don't take away the ability to monitor what our lines are doing, from those who are competent to do things and not go whining to BT if something breaks.
Over the years the ability to monitor line stats in conjunction with tools such as RS/DSLstats/Modem Stats  & forums like this must have saved BT an absolute fortune in diagnostics.  Not to mention how many people have been helped on forums such as this saving time and trouble and expense to ISP help desks.    Its totally counter-productive.

Yes, indeed. It would be nice to have some sort of mechanism by which we could request access to restricted information and/or functions even if we had to demonstrate a degree of technical competence first.

But as I think it was Black Sheep who pointed out somewhere here. There needs to be a clear business case when you have umpteen million customers, most of whom are thick as two short planks. And not always solely in respect to technical matters  :-\
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 25, 2013, 07:40:59 PM


However, a thought that has since occurred to me is that perhaps the reason for the changes might be nothing to do with the small number of users who have harmlessly unlocked their own modem to access the stats. Maybe, just maybe, BTOR is concerned about the possible risk of an unknown security vulnerability in the modem firewall, which, if exploited, might enable an malicious attacker to access the web and telnet interfaces of the locked firmware from the internet. I believe such vulnerabilities have been discovered in other modems/routers in the past. Given the large installed base of HG612s, public disclosure of such an attack vector could clearly cause havoc. So it might make sense, as a preemptive second tier of defence, for the update to remove the GUI and change the telnet password.

Pure speculation though.

I was thinking along the same sort of lines but then it struck me that even if the HG612 firewall were to be compromised, the router firewall would still continue to provide a second line of defence. Or is that technically incorrect?

I'm of the opinion that the modem update is possible a precursor to another, more important, change. But what?   

As far as I can tell the modem O/S can only be accessed via the ptm1.301 vlan, and LAN2 on an unlocked device, while it's operating in bridged mode. There are also iptables rules which prevent ptm1.301 and br0 (LAN2) communicating, including one which logs 'Intrusion' (sic) attempts originating from the vlan.

LAN2 itself is on the wrong side of the router firewall, but to get to it from the internet 'they' would need to compromise your router first and get access to the local network.

There are no guarantees of course but Openreach seem to have done a fairly decent job.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 25, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
pfft....  I know what I really think.  Come on the modems were locked with no access on the LAN, so why be concerned about the WAN side.  So we have a select group of users who were targeted.

But hey its all speculation eh?  and they fixed whatever they needed to fix.  right?  >:(
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: One2Go on October 25, 2013, 09:24:16 PM
Hi mate no worries at all.
I did wonder what happened
I tried it over and over and nothing  . it flashes it ok but no access.

Please let me know when you are ready. Thanks

I have a question still
While i was having trouble with your image(broken as you said) I decided to reflash the original from asbokid and still no access no telnet . this is the image i am now using to access the net the modem works fine still
I wonder what has happened? mind you i do have original modem ECI /r  from BT locked up in a safe for SOS moment

If you still can't get access after flashing Asbokid's unlocked image then it might be a config issue.  Try restoring the default settings by pressing and holding the reset button for ~10 seconds. You'll then be starting from a known good configuration and can proceed from there.

As far as I've been able to determine the broken mksquashfs tool only affects one very specific file and certainly wouldn't block telnet access. I didn't even known I'd made a mistake until I starting testing a new build which included that file and I did test the images before 'posting' them.

he minor version/'stepping' number to revert to a lower value if the major version/build number has increased.
Many thanks for your hard work much appreciated
I have now managed to unlock it following your advice  and the stats are very impressive taken into account that i messed around with modem few times last night and today . my speed only went down by few mbs so it looks good.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 26, 2013, 04:52:33 AM
will the fixed firmware be labeled differently on the site to download?

Sorry. Perhaps I could have made that clearer.

It's already done. The 'new' version has the same filename with a later upload time (2013-10-24 17:40).

I didn't want to have multiple versions of the same firmware hanging around, (xxx_unlocked, xxx_unlocked-fixed, xxx_unlocked-003). Particularly as there may be a new... new version soon. It could get confusing  :-\


ok to be safe I will wipe what I got on my hdd and just redownload them then.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 26, 2013, 04:58:50 AM
If need be, make things read only so plebs dont accidentally edit what they dont need to...if thats what it takes.  But please don't take away the ability to monitor what our lines are doing, from those who are competent to do things and not go whining to BT if something breaks.
Over the years the ability to monitor line stats in conjunction with tools such as RS/DSLstats/Modem Stats  & forums like this must have saved BT an absolute fortune in diagnostics.  Not to mention how many people have been helped on forums such as this saving time and trouble and expense to ISP help desks.    Its totally counter-productive.

Yes, indeed. It would be nice to have some sort of mechanism by which we could request access to restricted information and/or functions even if we had to demonstrate a degree of technical competence first.

But as I think it was Black Sheep who pointed out somewhere here. There needs to be a clear business case when you have umpteen million customers, most of whom are thick as two short planks. And not always solely in respect to technical matters  :-\


well BT retail deal with end users not openreach and BT retail have seen fit to include stats on the home hub 5. Error stats are missing as well as whats visible via the cli commands to show interleaving depth etc. but the attitude from BT retail is different to openreach's lock it all off motto.

Plus it must be a tiny % of the so called thick customers who even bother trying to view connection stats.  So in that case there is no need to block as they wont even try to look.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 26, 2013, 07:54:19 AM

At the moment I'm trying to test as many of the gui options as I can while watching for errors on the serial console. It's rather slow going  :'(

   If it would help at all. I, and I suspect others, would be happy to test drive a web GUI version to help see what works and does not. 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: D-an-W on October 26, 2013, 08:15:22 AM
Thanks for the effort put into all this folks, great work Howlingwolf  ;D

A couple of n00b questions if thats ok...

During the update I lost the Web Interface but retained Telnet access so am I right in saying I have "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_original" and if I was to do a master reset I would loose Telnet access?

To rectify this I should flash "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked" or would "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent" be of more benefit to me?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 26, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
D-an-W

  Not sure if I am the right person or know enough to reply but no web and but just telnet is also obtained with bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked and if so telnet won't lost with hard reset.
 Otherwise if you have  bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_original what you say is true.

 bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent is essentially Asbo's new blob version with a few extra changes, however while that version  lacks any benefits of the latest 038 broadcom code it does have the web interface.  Benefit depends on what you want -if it just stats and telnet and no need for web access I would guess ...B030SP06_unlocked maybe best for you but unless you do hard reset you may be fine as you are.   
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 26, 2013, 03:53:14 PM
Although B030SP06_unlocked doesn't have a GUI interface, it's fully supported by DSLstats and HG612-stats, so you'll still be able to get all the information you need about the performance of your connection. The only bit of information you can't get from the CLI is the firmware version. :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: One2Go on October 26, 2013, 04:46:54 PM
Although B030SP06_unlocked doesn't have a GUI interface, it's fully supported by DSLstats and HG612-stats, so you'll still be able to get all the information you need about the performance of your connection. The only bit of information you can't get from the CLI is the firmware version. :)
you can  get that info  via telnet:

Copyright by Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Login:admin
Password:
ATP>sh


BusyBox v1.9.1 (2013-06-01 18:30:08 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# xdslcmd info -- version
xdslcmd: too many parameters
# xdslcmd info -- version
xdslcmd: too many parameters
# xdslcmd info --version
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 15709 Kbps, Downstream rate = 70784 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 16011 Kbps, Downstream rate = 63415 K

xdslcmd version 1.0
DSL PHY: AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
******* Pass *********
#
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: broadstairs on October 26, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
I have been following this with interest as I have a spare HG612 which still is unlocked as I dont currently use it. I was thinking of trying the new f/w but since I am on ADSL2+ with TT I guess setting it up without the GUI is problematic, or at least time consuming using telnet. I am hoping the GUI version will become available soon, and if testing is required of the GUI I'd be happy to help.

Stuart
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 26, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Although B030SP06_unlocked doesn't have a GUI interface, it's fully supported by DSLstats and HG612-stats, so you'll still be able to get all the information you need about the performance of your connection. The only bit of information you can't get from the CLI is the firmware version. :)
you can  get that info  via telnet:
... etc

You're right of course. I didn't think that was the firmware version, but having checked on another HG612 which does have a GUI interface, I see that I was wrong.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 26, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
If need be, make things read only so plebs dont accidentally edit what they dont need to...if thats what it takes.  But please don't take away the ability to monitor what our lines are doing, from those who are competent to do things and not go whining to BT if something breaks.
Over the years the ability to monitor line stats in conjunction with tools such as RS/DSLstats/Modem Stats  & forums like this must have saved BT an absolute fortune in diagnostics.  Not to mention how many people have been helped on forums such as this saving time and trouble and expense to ISP help desks.    Its totally counter-productive.

Yes, indeed. It would be nice to have some sort of mechanism by which we could request access to restricted information and/or functions even if we had to demonstrate a degree of technical competence first.

But as I think it was Black Sheep who pointed out somewhere here. There needs to be a clear business case when you have umpteen million customers, most of whom are thick as two short planks. And not always solely in respect to technical matters  :-\


well BT retail deal with end users not openreach and BT retail have seen fit to include stats on the home hub 5. Error stats are missing as well as whats visible via the cli commands to show interleaving depth etc. but the attitude from BT retail is different to openreach's lock it all off motto.

Plus it must be a tiny % of the so called thick customers who even bother trying to view connection stats.  So in that case there is no need to block as they wont even try to look.

Sadly it's not the majority, (thick or otherwise :P), which is the problem. There is a small but very vocal minority who will insist on tampering with things they don't understand and then scream blue murder because it no longer works.

It's never their fault of course and anyone who suggests otherwise had better be prepared for the consequences of that ill-advised suggestion. Abusive phone calls, abusive emails, hysterical complaints to supervisor/manager/director, dog excrement through the mail...  :-\


During the update I lost the Web Interface but retained Telnet access so am I right in saying I have "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_original" and if I was to do a master reset I would loose Telnet access?

Yes. That file is simply the original Openreach update extracted from a binary dump of the flashmem.


To rectify this I should flash "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked" or would "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent" be of more benefit to me?

Hmm... The key question at the moment is how important the gui is to you. If it's something you can't live without then B028SP10_nobtagent is probably best until we're certain the new gui version (see below) is stable and works correctly.


bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent is essentially Asbo's new blob version with a few extra changes,

Don't worry. I wasn't in any danger of getting a swelled head over this  :lol:
Title: Experimental gui versions
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 26, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
An experimental version of the new firmware with GUI restored is now available for testing.

The following MEGA folder now contains an additional sub-folder containing the following files:

bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent

https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w)


Both of these contain all of the config/gui fixes from my previous builds. The essential difference is the presence/absence of the BTAgent.

I must stress that these are Experimental.

I've tested them as far as I could and didn't find any problems. That of course, does not mean that none exist. They could be just hiding, waiting to pounce when you least expect it  ;)

As always, let me know if there are any problems, comments, suggestions, etc.

Please see this thread for latest firmware updates (Aug 2014)
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14262.0



[edited by Admin to point to new firmware version]

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 26, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
I've downloaded them, and I'll give one of them a try tomorrow.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: D-an-W on October 26, 2013, 07:43:47 PM
Thanks Howlingwolf, to be honest I could happily live without the GUI if it meant the possibility of more speed  >:D

It's been that long since I updated the firmware I need to read up on how I did it last time so I can have a go  ;)

EDIT: Am I following this guide http://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf (http://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf) again or can it be done via Telnet as I still have access?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 26, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
I don't know if there is a way of doing it via telnet but even so, Asbokid's guide is probably the easiest method.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: D-an-W on October 27, 2013, 06:52:23 AM
All done, I used "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent" was that the best choice?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 27, 2013, 10:26:15 AM
 :)  B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent is running fine for me on adsl2 annex m.  The GUI allowed all the usual changes that I make re ADSL and IP addresses and it really helpful to be able to save the config file.  Reloading it also worked fine. Your edit to allow saving the config file in B028SP10_no-btagent is also a real help if that firmware proves better in other ways.  I did look at the serial output but I did not learn much - just seemed to be a few extra complaints during the initial startup but not when making the GUI changes. 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 27, 2013, 10:47:02 AM
B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent is working fine here too, and everything seems to be according to specification. The GUI has all the expected features, and there are no BTAgent processes running.

Code: [Select]
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2013-06-01 18:30:08 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# ps
  PID  Uid        VSZ Stat Command
    1 0           336 S   init               
    2 0               SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
    3 0               SW< [events/0]
    4 0               SW< [khelper]
    5 0               SW< [kthread]
   19 0               SW< [kblockd/0]
   32 0               SW  [pdflush]
   33 0               SW  [pdflush]
   34 0               SWN [kswapd0]
   35 0               SW< [aio/0]
   49 0               SW  [mtdblockd]
   59 0           400 S   -/bin/sh
  101 0               SW  [dsl0]
  116 0               SW  [eth0]
  127 0           504 S   mc
  128 0           284 S   console
  129 0           504 S   mc
  130 0           504 S   mc
  131 0           380 S   /bin/msg msg
  132 0           664 S   /bin/log
  133 0           464 S   /bin/klog
  134 0           664 S   /bin/log
  135 0           664 S   /bin/log
  136 0          1120 S   /bin/dbase
  137 0          1352 S   /bin/web
  138 0          1352 S   /bin/web
  139 0          1352 S   /bin/web
  140 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  141 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  142 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  143 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  144 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  145 0           992 S   /bin/cli
  146 0          1640 S   /bin/cms
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  193 0           336 S   zebra -f /var/zebra/zebra.conf
  194 0           284 S   console
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  277 0          1640 S   /bin/cms
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  310 0           616 S   dhcps
  312 0           240 S   ipcheck
  522 0           488 S   pppc -I ppp256
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  546 0           380 S   dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/dnsmasq.conf
  626 0           440 S   sntp
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  655 0               SWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd1]
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Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 27, 2013, 12:35:15 PM
can you guys using B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent do this test? thanks

enable QoS in gui (if disabled) do a upload speedtest.
then disable QoS in gui, do another speedtest and confirm you get roughly extra 10% speed.

thanks

toggling QoS doesnt restart connection.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 27, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
will the fixed firmware be labeled differently on the site to download?

Sorry. Perhaps I could have made that clearer.

It's already done. The 'new' version has the same filename with a later upload time (2013-10-24 17:40).

I didn't want to have multiple versions of the same firmware hanging around, (xxx_unlocked, xxx_unlocked-fixed, xxx_unlocked-003). Particularly as there may be a new... new version soon. It could get confusing  :-\


I noticed the timestamp on the BO28SP10 is still earlier, that one is safe?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 27, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
can you guys using B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent do this test? thanks

enable QoS in gui (if disabled) do a upload speedtest.
then disable QoS in gui, do another speedtest and confirm you get roughly extra 10% speed.

thanks

toggling QoS doesnt restart connection.

I would but unfortunately a while back I managed to accidentally firewall block myself out of the web interface. I can still use telnet, but I don't know if or how to regain access to the web interface. I thought flashing the new firmware (unlockedgui-nobtagent or w/e it's called) would've done so, but I think it kept the original settings I use.

So far I've noticed that the number of CRC errors and consequently ES have been significantly lower (approximately 40% less). Bitswapping count seems higher, with over 3000 in the last hour on the downstream. I've also noticed some parameters on xdslcmd that I haven't noticed before, e.g. --maxdatarate, --ginp, unless I overlooked them.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 27, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
can you guys using B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent do this test? thanks

enable QoS in gui (if disabled) do a upload speedtest.
then disable QoS in gui, do another speedtest and confirm you get roughly extra 10% speed.

thanks

toggling QoS doesnt restart connection.

It didn't make any difference here. I assume that you meant us to simply tick or untick the QoS option, without setting up any actual QoS parameters?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 27, 2013, 01:12:16 PM
All done, I used "bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent" was that the best choice?

My reasoning behind providing both was to give people the choice of allowing Openreach to update their modem or not, without forcing people who don't to fiddle about manually killing the BTAgent process every time the modem is restarted.


just seemed to be a few extra complaints during the initial startup

What are the new errors you are seeing?  The only one I saw reported during my tests was 'Bad rule' from iptables. Most of the others seemed to be common across all the variations I tested.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 27, 2013, 01:19:08 PM
Likewise - nothing significant

QOS
on      down 14.52 up 1.48
                 14.54    1.50

off             14.59    1.48
                 14.53    1.50

on             14.53    1.50
                14.56    1.50     
       
off            14.59    1.49   
                14.54    1.50 

  What were you expecting to happen?   (I notice that my HG622 completely loses internet access with QOS turned on and default settings.  The ethernet connection looks fine but no internet. )
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 27, 2013, 01:26:46 PM
I noticed the timestamp on the BO28SP10 is still earlier, that one is safe?

Yes. It was only the new B030SP06 which needed replacing and even that was just a precaution.


I would but unfortunately a while back I managed to accidentally firewall block myself out of the web interface. I can still use telnet, but I don't know if or how to regain access to the web interface. I thought flashing the new firmware (unlockedgui-nobtagent or w/e it's called) would've done so, but I think it kept the original settings I use.

I'm afraid so. There's an earlier post in this thread if you want the technical details but the long and the short of it is you need to restore the default settings to regain access.


So far I've noticed that the number of CRC errors and consequently ES have been significantly lower (approximately 40% less). Bitswapping count seems higher, with over 3000 in the last hour on the downstream. I've also noticed some parameters on xdslcmd that I haven't noticed before, e.g. --maxdatarate, --ginp, unless I overlooked them.

No, those are new. No idea what they do yet, although maxdatarate seems pretty obvious.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 27, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
So far I've noticed that the number of CRC errors and consequently ES have been significantly lower (approximately 40% less). Bitswapping count seems higher, with over 3000 in the last hour on the downstream. I've also noticed some parameters on xdslcmd that I haven't noticed before, e.g. --maxdatarate, --ginp, unless I overlooked them.

No, those are new. No idea what they do yet, although maxdatarate seems pretty obvious.

I'd also speculate that ginp is related to the impulse noise protection value, however I'm not sure how that is set, and if it even works. I tried messing around with maxdatarate thinking I could band my connection speed as a test (worked on the Fritz!Box 7390), but I was unsuccessful. For example, --maxdatarate 50000 15000 0 didn't make any difference and the values were still 0 when checking --cfg.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 27, 2013, 02:11:30 PM

What are the new errors you are seeing?  The only one I saw reported during my tests was 'Bad rule' from iptables. Most of the others seemed to be common across all the variations I tested.

   I should have looked more carefully.  Having done a careful check of the startup with asbo's new blob and B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent the only extra errors follow the eth0... section. the "Error, Control port.'s   

"eth0.5 entered promiscuous mode
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort."

  You seem to have got rid of  a usbmount not found message.

   but the "iptables: Bad rule" message is common between these versions along with a few other errors
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 27, 2013, 02:52:22 PM
t I was unsuccessful. For example, --maxdatarate 50000 15000 0 didn't make any difference and the values were still 0 when checking --cfg.

    If you try smaller values e.g. on adsl2  "--maxDataRate 1500 150 160  or 150 15 160 the values DO show when checking with --cfg but don't seem to make any difference!!   I am also not sure what maxaggrdatarate might be.  Maybe something else also needs enabling at the same time?

   Edit ----- In fact it does not like maxaggrdatarate being zero, that seems to be the issue with it not showing with --cfg, - I changed two things at once!! I have tried a wide rage of values now but with no impact. Be aware that this gives a resync every time you try it.  Not a problem on TT but would be for some experimenters.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 27, 2013, 04:23:43 PM

What are the new errors you are seeing?  The only one I saw reported during my tests was 'Bad rule' from iptables. Most of the others seemed to be common across all the variations I tested.

   I should have looked more carefully.  Having done a careful check of the startup with asbo's new blob and B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent the only extra errors follow the eth0... section. the "Error, Control port.'s   

"eth0.5 entered promiscuous mode
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort.
 Error, ControlPort."

  You seem to have got rid of  a usbmount not found message.

   but the "iptables: Bad rule" message is common between version along with a few other errors

Those control port errors exist in the original openreach update as well. I would hazard a guess it's something Openreach stripped to save space and didn't clean up properly. The usbmount msg in the B028SP10 firmware is probably more of the same which was fixed in B030SP10.

Still, I will go through them again in case I missed something. It's going to take a while as there are six variations to flash and check - B028SP10: locked/unlocked/nobtagent and B030SP06: locked/unlocked/gui_nobtagent.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 27, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
t I was unsuccessful. For example, --maxdatarate 50000 15000 0 didn't make any difference and the values were still 0 when checking --cfg.

    If you try smaller values e.g. on adsl2  "--maxDataRate 1500 150 160  or 150 15 160 the values DO show when checking with --cfg but don't seem to make any difference!!   I am also not sure what maxaggrdatarate might be.  Maybe something else also needs enabling at the same time?

   Edit ----- In fact it does not like maxaggrdatarate being zero, that seems to be the issue with it not showing with --cfg, - I changed two things at once!! I have tried a wide rage of values now but with no impact. Be aware that this gives a resync every time you try it.  Not a problem on TT but would be for some experimenters.

I see, interesting. I will play around with it on my VDSL2 connection later tonight when it's quiet on my home network. The parameter 'maxaggrdatarate' I can only assume is the maximum aggregated (total) data rate. So, for example, if I did --maxdatarate 50000 15000 65000 then presumably that would work (but I expect it won't), as 50000 + 15000 = 65000. That's my theory anyway.

As I managed to break DLM on my own BT FTTC connection anyway it makes no odds to me. I'm always 60/20 with no interleaving.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 27, 2013, 07:45:51 PM
can you guys using B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent do this test? thanks

enable QoS in gui (if disabled) do a upload speedtest.
then disable QoS in gui, do another speedtest and confirm you get roughly extra 10% speed.

thanks

toggling QoS doesnt restart connection.

It didn't make any difference here. I assume that you meant us to simply tick or untick the QoS option, without setting up any actual QoS parameters?


correct, on the asbokid firmware, there is no need to tick an apply or anything, just toggling the tickbox is enough.

If you seeing no difference its a sign that setting isnt working.

When I eventually install my MK2 I will change my firmware at same time and try QoS toggling myself.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 27, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
Likewise - nothing significant

QOS
on      down 14.52 up 1.48
                 14.54    1.50

off             14.59    1.48
                 14.53    1.50

on             14.53    1.50
                14.56    1.50     
       
off            14.59    1.49   
                14.54    1.50 

  What were you expecting to happen?   (I notice that my HG622 completely loses internet access with QOS turned on and default settings.  The ethernet connection looks fine but no internet. )

on the default firmware (locked) QoS reduces throughput on upload by approx 10% regardless of sync speed, so if eg. a 2mbit upload you get 1.8mbit throughput with default behaviour.

The workaround was to untick QoS on the asbokid firmware which restored the missing 10% speed.

So basically I see 2 possibilities.

Either the setting isnt working, or on the new firmware BT adjusted the default QoS rules so the loss of throughput no longer happens with it enabled.  It might be better if someone who has previously disabled QoS can test so they have a comparison or at least someone with a full 20 sync.

I am currently not keen on swapping out my firmware because my attainable is low enough I know when I do anything I will recconect at a lower speed, otherwise I would try myself.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: unaszplodrmann on October 27, 2013, 09:26:16 PM
I had QoS disabled before receiving the update and have been surprised by throughput tests in the last couple of days. speedtest.net repeatedly returned stupidly high upload rates, so I tried thinkbroadband too, and their tester is also returning very high figures:

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138290828010543641366.png&hash=8abafa26e85fe0b5a9495229cae2742d132dfa86) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138290828010543641366)

Plusnet's own test is showing around 17.4 Mbit/s, which is, as I understand, about the maximum throughput one could hope to attain, taking overheads into account. I'm curious as to why the other two are returning higher figures.

Is it possible to toggle QoS via telnet?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 27, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
I had QoS disabled before receiving the update and have been surprised by throughput tests in the last couple of days. speedtest.net repeatedly returned stupidly high upload rates, so I tried thinkbroadband too, and their tester is also returning very high figures:

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138290828010543641366.png&hash=8abafa26e85fe0b5a9495229cae2742d132dfa86) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138290828010543641366)

Plusnet's own test is showing around 17.4 Mbit/s, which is, as I understand, about the maximum throughput one could hope to attain, taking overheads into account. I'm curious as to why the other two are returning higher figures.

Is it possible to toggle QoS via telnet?

I'm also generally seeing upload rates of over 18 megabits with the updated firmware, interestingly.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 28, 2013, 12:12:45 AM
I'm pleased to say that 'xdslcmd configure1 --maxDataRate x x x' works on VDSL2 fine here.

I'll test various speeds, given DLM doesn't effect my connection anyway. Attached are two current stats images, one to show me synced at my normal connection speed of roughly 60/20, the other to show my test speed I set at 45/14. Interestingly I was able to sync below the minimum sync rate (40,000 Kbps downstream) on one of the tests (not attached).

Results:
Original - 0000 - No limits set.
Speedtest.net result - http://www.speedtest.net/result/3062068219.png
*will get BRAS information later, according to mouselike's website I have to wait a few hours since the last request I made, so check the attached images instead*

Test Limits - 0730 - Limits set with 'xdslcmd configure1 --maxDataRate 45000 14000 59000'.
Speedtest.net result - http://www.speedtest.net/result/3062055684.png
The current Downstream BRAS rate is: 43.56 Mbps
The current Upstream BRAS rate is: 20 Mbps

Notes:
--Ginp accepts: 0x0, 0x1, 0x2, 0x3 | Presumably 0x0 means Ds and Us G.INP are disabled/unsupported, where 0x3 means Ds and Us G.INP are enabled/supported.
--maxDataRate was successfully tested with an example such as: --maxDataRate 45000 14000 59000 | This produced a DS rate of almost 45,000 Kbps, an upstream rate of almost 14,000 Kbps.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 28, 2013, 02:52:57 AM
I had QoS disabled before receiving the update and have been surprised by throughput tests in the last couple of days. speedtest.net repeatedly returned stupidly high upload rates, so I tried thinkbroadband too, and their tester is also returning very high figures:

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138290828010543641366.png&hash=8abafa26e85fe0b5a9495229cae2742d132dfa86) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138290828010543641366)

Plusnet's own test is showing around 17.4 Mbit/s, which is, as I understand, about the maximum throughput one could hope to attain, taking overheads into account. I'm curious as to why the other two are returning higher figures.

Is it possible to toggle QoS via telnet?

on a 20mbit sync I would expect close to 19mbps on speedtests.

Here is my tbb test with QoS off on asbokid firmware, so in my view your result suggests QoS no longer affects upload speeds.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138292888716656842992.png&hash=b8acb0f436a747eef10f9e4a470f125080e13b70) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138292888716656842992)

If you do a test on speedtest.net on ookla NL server I expect you would hit 19mbps+.  Also if you have something like dumeter installed to show live traffic you should be hitting 2.4mB/sec.

results below with QoS ticked (I just ticked not hit apply). 2.1mB/sec in dumeter.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138292953649231272372.png&hash=9d6ea1751a204e4c950e9a6dc58ac93d3a31d2a0) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138292953649231272372)

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thinkbroadband.com%2Fspeedtest%2Fbutton%2F138292960706935293671.png&hash=0eaa433e49207e60fbcaf6da84bc715921910da7) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=138292960706935293671)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 28, 2013, 09:49:07 AM
   I still cannot get maxDataRate to work on my TT LLU connection with annex m.  To retain annex m and not just get a sync failure I have to use a dual instruction with --mod m included - see below.  It does not matter whether -mod m is first or last.  If I don't use --mod m  as well, even if it already enabled beforehand,  xdslcmd profile --show,  shows annex m is disabled and all other options are enabled with --mod m the opposite is true and only annex m is enabled. With past firmwares annex m could be included in the full list of all options but now it only works if used on its own.

 eg  "xdslcmd configure --mod m --maxDataRate 15000 1500 16500"                   retains annex m capability but provides no maxdatarate

  Perhaps Roseway or another on adsl2 who does not mind resyncs could try eg   "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 10000 1000 11000"  or numbers that make sense and provide a cap.

 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 28, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
Quote
Perhaps Roseway or another on adsl2 who does not mind resyncs could try eg   "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 10000 1000 11000"  or numbers that make sense and provide a cap.
I'll try to have a look at that later today.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 28, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
  I notice the config file is editable and could let you change some things not available on the gui. 

   e.g. the gui dsl settings are stuck on ALL and can't be changed. However individual settings can be selected by editing the config file line with ConfigMode i.e. ConfigMode="ALL" to e.g. Configmode="ADSL2+,VDSL". on upload those boxes are then ticked in the gui and xdslcmd profile --show confirms this.  I also tried adding AnnexM but without any effect.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 28, 2013, 01:11:21 PM
  I notice the config file is editable and could let you change some things not available on the gui. 

   e.g. the gui dsl settings are stuck on ALL and can't be changed. However individual settings can be selected by editing the config file line with ConfigMode i.e. ConfigMode="ALL" to e.g. Configmode="ADSL2+,VDSL". on upload those boxes are then ticked in the gui and xdslcmd profile --show confirms this.  I also tried adding AnnexM but without any effect.

How does one successfully edit the curcfg.xml file? I tried using vi (through Putty, both Telnet and SSH) but I am getting wierd effects when trying to use vi as I would on a normal Linux O/S.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 28, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
  I used wordpad in windows xp. That gives a readable file and saves worked for me.

   edit----     vi for windows also works for me
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: D-an-W on October 29, 2013, 07:28:58 AM
Everything looks ok here so far, been connected for two days (Not done anything more than I usually do with the GUI). Now I just need to get my line to reset...

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F52FEb.png&hash=087bffad92de8dbbd2ceea63239c3e53ed395752)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 07:40:50 AM
I've tried using the maxDataRate option on my TT ADSL2+ connection, and although it forced an immediate resync it didn't change anything. I tried xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000 and it reconnected at 7104/1016. xdslcmd info --cfg shows the three values unchanged at zero.

[Edited to correct the 'configure' command]
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 29, 2013, 08:44:01 AM
I've tried using the maxDataRate option on my TT ADSL2+ connection, and although it forced an immediate resync it didn't change anything. I tried xdslcmd configure 6000 900 7000 and it reconnected at 7104/1016. xdslcmd info --cfg shows the three values unchanged at zero.

Perhaps it doesn't work for ADSLx connections and only VDSLx.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 29, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
I've tried using the maxDataRate option on my TT ADSL2+ connection, and although it forced an immediate resync it didn't change anything. I tried xdslcmd configure 6000 900 7000 and it reconnected at 7104/1016. xdslcmd info --cfg shows the three values unchanged at zero.

Perhaps it doesn't work for ADSLx connections and only VDSLx.

That is quite possible but I did at least get it to show as changed with "xdslcmd info --cfg".  Did you type exactly  " xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 10000 1000 11000 " or similar with numbers changed.  It seems best to have the last value the aggregate even though we are not sure what it really is. 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 10:37:52 AM
What I typed was "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000" (apologies for posting an incomplete version, which I've now corrected). As all the parameters are Max<something> I didn't think it likely that the third parameter needed to be the sum of the other two. I just chose values which were less than I was actually achieving.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 10:57:36 AM
I've found what seems to be a problem with the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent version. I noticed yesterday afternoon that my WiFi network wasn't working. I did all the obvious checks, changing cables, ethernet ports, wireless channel, etc. but although my remote devices were able to make a wireless connection to the network, they didn't receive any internet data. I temporarily changed over to using homeplugs, with the same result. The only factor remaining was the HG612 with the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware.

This morning I replaced the router with another HG612 flashed with the  earlier B030SP06_unlocked firmware, and now my WiFi network is working normally again. All the remote devices are receiving internet data.

I noticed while I was diagnosing the problem yesterday that at times the HG612 GUI interface became very sluggish. It would sometimes take 10 seconds or more to display a page. So I wonder if there's a problem with limited memory in the HG612, and this is the reason for the GUI being removed from the most recent BT upgrade?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 29, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
 Hmm, I find your command xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000 (done as copy and paste from your post) works to the extent of showing with  xdslcmd info --cfg with my HG612 unconnected (so the vdsl/adsl difference should not be evident).   It maybe worth trying this test.

   Separately the sluggish gui also annoyed me as did a slow two stage sync attempts.  I deleted the PTM connection and left just the ATM one for adsl2.  This seems to given a faster single stage sync and I think it got the gui to move as fast as any do.  With these settings I also download a config file then after a full reset uploaded.  I doubt that this was needed but it was part of my testing.  It was after this I really noticed the much improved gui speed and I also did the max..... tests.  No dropout here but equally no long tests either.



Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on October 29, 2013, 05:59:58 PM
Hmm, I find your command xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000 (done as copy and paste from your post) works to the extent of showing with  xdslcmd info --cfg with my HG612 unconnected (so the vdsl/adsl difference should not be evident).   It maybe worth trying this test.

   Separately the sluggish gui also annoyed me as did a slow two stage sync attempts.  I deleted the PTM connection and left just the ATM one for adsl2.  This seems to given a faster single stage sync and I think it got the gui to move as fast as any do.  With these settings I also download a config file then after a full reset uploaded.  I doubt that this was needed but it was part of my testing.  It was after this I really noticed the much improved gui speed and I also did the max..... tests.  No dropout here but equally no long tests either.

See http://i.imgur.com/TaRBn6F.png for telnet results of '--cfg' and '--pbParams' - on my FTTC connection I've successfully capped my downstream rate :). Possibly --maxDataRate is not compatible with ADSLx I guess :(.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 29, 2013, 07:23:19 PM
b*cat is confused.  ???

Eric has been discussing the effect of different firmware images on a HG612 and then mentioned --

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I noticed yesterday afternoon that my WiFi network wasn't working.

 :-\

(Time for my evening meal!  :yum:  )
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 29, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
I've found what seems to be a problem with the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent version. I noticed yesterday afternoon that my WiFi network wasn't working. I did all the obvious checks, changing cables, ethernet ports, wireless channel, etc. but although my remote devices were able to make a wireless connection to the network, they didn't receive any internet data. I temporarily changed over to using homeplugs, with the same result. The only factor remaining was the HG612 with the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware.

This morning I replaced the router with another HG612 flashed with the  earlier B030SP06_unlocked firmware, and now my WiFi network is working normally again. All the remote devices are receiving internet data.

I noticed while I was diagnosing the problem yesterday that at times the HG612 GUI interface became very sluggish. It would sometimes take 10 seconds or more to display a page. So I wonder if there's a problem with limited memory in the HG612, and this is the reason for the GUI being removed from the most recent BT upgrade?


That doesn't sound good...

Were all your wired computers/devices receiving traffic ok?  I'm guessing your setup is something along these sort of lines - Modem (adsl2+/routed) --> Router with wireless interface --> Computers and other devices.

With that sort of 'cascaded' setup there is the potential for routing issues. Traffic loops as well if you have more than one physical connection between the modem and the router.

I've noticed the interface can be a bit sluggish initially myself but nothing of that order. I never considered it to be a problem as it's not limited to the B030 firmware. I simply assumed it was due to the device being rather underpowered for the task. It cannot handle the line speed on an 80/20 connection in routed mode.

The limited available space in the flashmem is certainly part of why the gui was removed. We're pushing the size limit with this build which uses approximately half of one spare block (out of five). Inclusion of the BTAgent pushes it to a second block.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Normal internet activities were not a problem. I have several computers connected directly by ethernet, and these all worked normally.

The HG612 is configured as a modem/router. I only use one of its LAN ports, which is connected to an 8-port switch to which everything else is connected, including a wireless access point. I hear what you say about routing issues, but all I did to cure the WiFi (and also Homeplug) problem was replace one HG612 with another one configured exactly the same way, but with different firmware. I speculated that the issue was that with the particular firmware installed, the HG612 couldn't handle streaming data for some reason, possibly memory issues.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 10:36:59 PM
b*cat is confused.  ???

Just read the entire posting and you will be confused no longer. ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 29, 2013, 10:43:25 PM
Good spot eric.   Most of us (those who use it as fttc modem only) wouldnt have noticed this.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 29, 2013, 10:58:54 PM
b*cat is confused.  ???

Just read the entire posting and you will be confused no longer. ;D

b*cat is no not now confused.  :angel:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 29, 2013, 11:07:35 PM
I should perhaps have made it clear that the devices connected by WiFi are all media devices (internet radio, TV, etc., which is why I suspect that streaming is the problem.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 29, 2013, 11:25:43 PM
Normal internet activities were not a problem. I have several computers connected directly by ethernet, and these all worked normally.

The HG612 is configured as a modem/router. I only use one of its LAN ports, which is connected to an 8-port switch to which everything else is connected, including a wireless access point. I hear what you say about routing issues, but all I did to cure the WiFi (and also Homeplug) problem was replace one HG612 with another one configured exactly the same way, but with different firmware. I speculated that the issue was that with the particular firmware installed, the HG612 couldn't handle streaming data for some reason, possibly memory issues.

A small miscommunication I think :)

Not knowing the details of your setup I was looking to eliminate other potential issues. Particularly as you only mentioned wireless being affected.

A memory issue could cause the symptoms you reported but I would expect that to affect all traffic passing through the modem rather than just that being routed to wireless devices.


EDIT:

Good spot eric.   Most of us (those who use it as fttc modem only) wouldnt have noticed this.

Yes indeed. I certainly haven't seen anything untoward on an FTTC connection.


I should perhaps have made it clear that the devices connected by WiFi are all media devices (internet radio, TV, etc., which is why I suspect that streaming is the problem.

I must admit I'm not familiar with streaming protocols so I couldn't say how likely that is.

However I will look to see if there's any way I can reduce the memory footprint, but to be honest I don't think there will be much. It's already fairly well stripped down.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 30, 2013, 07:21:04 AM
Thanks for all your good work HW. Tomorrow I'll put back the HG612 with GUI-included firmware and do some more testing. Yesterday I was more concerned with getting my network working, and didn't do all the research I could have done.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 30, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
Hmm, I find your command xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000 (done as copy and paste from your post) works to the extent of showing with  xdslcmd info --cfg with my HG612 unconnected (so the vdsl/adsl difference should not be evident).   It maybe worth trying this test.

   Separately the sluggish gui also annoyed me as did a slow two stage sync attempts.  I deleted the PTM connection and left just the ATM one for adsl2.  This seems to given a faster single stage sync and I think it got the gui to move as fast as any do.  With these settings I also download a config file then after a full reset uploaded.  I doubt that this was needed but it was part of my testing.  It was after this I really noticed the much improved gui speed and I also did the max..... tests.  No dropout here but equally no long tests either.

   Eric if time allows you may like try both of above.  You may already be going to but from the thread I wondered if my comment may have been missed.  No worries if don't think it worth it!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 30, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Yes, I'm sorry Les, I did miss your point about trying it with the HG612 disconnected. I just hooked up the one with the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware to a spare PC and tried the test. I found the same as you, namely that the parameters which I entered in the command "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 6000 900 7000" were showing in the --cfg command. This didn't happen when it was connected, so it looks as though you could be right, that this command applies only to VDSL2 connections.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 30, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
  Its does seem most likely that max... is only for vdsl but with my adsl2 annex m the changes still show up with --cfg hence me wondering whether it was just annex m causing my failure.  As a test for when your bored! Did you try connecting the adsl line (with no power down) after it showing up with --cfg. If so did connecting get rid of it showing with --cfg? 

  Also re the sluggish gui, that has now vanished for me. 
Separately the sluggish gui also annoyed me as did a slow two stage sync attempts.  I deleted the PTM connection and left just the ATM one for adsl2.  This seems to given a faster single stage sync and I think it got the gui to move as fast as any do.  With these settings I also downloaded a config file then after a full reset uploaded.  I doubt that this was needed but it was part of my testing.  It was after this I really noticed the much improved gui speed and I also did the max..... tests.  No dropout here but equally no long tests either.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 30, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
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As a test for when your bored! Did you try connecting the adsl line (with no power down) after it showing up with --cfg. If so did connecting get rid of it showing with --cfg?

I don't get bored. :)

I'll give that a try when I get the chance, but at present I don't want to mess with my connection.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 30, 2013, 03:08:10 PM
Thanks for all your good work HW. Tomorrow I'll put back the HG612 with GUI-included firmware and do some more testing. Yesterday I was more concerned with getting my network working, and didn't do all the research I could have done.

I quite understand. Getting it working, whatever 'it' might be, usually takes priority.

In the meantime I've been doing some very simplistic tests using the spare offline to eliminate external influences as much as possible.

I used the following procedure with B028SP10_unlocked-nobtagent first, then B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent.

Flash firmware to modem.
Restore default settings using reset button.
Clear firefox cache.
Run top on serial console.
Examine every interface page and make two changes. Enable SNTP and Logging.

I ran through this twice using and got almost identical results on both occasions. These are from the second run.

B028SP10   Initial   Mem: 21320K used, 7624K free, 0K shrd, 2064K buff, 6092K cached
   Minimum   Mem: 22620K used, 6324K free, 0K shrd, 2356K buff, 6732K cached
B030SP06   Initial   Mem: 21032K used, 7712K free, 0K shrd, 2032K buff, 5940K cached
   Minimum   Mem: 22276K used, 6468K free, 0K shrd, 2300K buff, 6516K cached

Two test runs barely constitute a sample but it looks like B030SP10 uses less memory despite the inclusion of the web interface.

In the words of Alice, Curiouser and Curiouser...  ???
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: One2Go on October 30, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
I tried the experimental firmware. what can i say????? Thanks to the author. the gui is back , now i am very happy.
all thanks due to all those who contribute with their efforts to make this site a great place to visit. Well done
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on October 30, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
I might have to get one of these (again!). I am very interested in testing this out!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 31, 2013, 02:24:16 PM
I've done some more testing on the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware. As before, all my remote streaming devices stopped receiving data, although they had good WiFi connections to the network. Directly connected PCs continued to work normally. I tried three extra tests:

1. I checked to see if streaming media (e.g.YouTube videos) would work on the PCs connected directly. Everything worked normally.

2. I used a tablet PC to check if non-streaming internet usage would work via WiFi. It didn't work, although the WiFi connection was shown as good.

3. I connected an internet radio directly to the network by ethernet to see if a streaming device would work when directly connected. It didn't work.

While I was conducting these tests, the GUI became almost completely unresponsive, and effectively unusable.

For the record, the HG612 device details are the same as One2Go's details shown above (apart from a different device ID of course).

I really don't know what to make of this. Apart from the three directly connected PCs, nothing seems to have internet access, although everything connects to the network satisfactorily. As before, replacing the HG612 with my other one with the non-GUI version of this firmware restored normal working to every device. I can only think that it's a memory issue.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 31, 2013, 03:56:05 PM
  I have not had the same problem but probably have a similar set up.  I did think deleting the PTM connection and leaving just the ATM one for adsl2 helped my gui speed. I am not sure whether this could effect memory use but before deleting the PTM the ATM always synced in the second set of flashing lights as the HG612 seemed to try the PTM first.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 31, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
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before deleting the PTM the ATM always synced in the second set of flashing lights as the HG612 seemed to try the PTM first.

That's an interesting point. Both of my HG612s sync in two stages as you said. I'll have another try with the GUI-included firmware, but I won't have time tomorrow.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on October 31, 2013, 05:22:21 PM
I've done some more testing on the B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware. As before, all my remote streaming devices stopped receiving data, although they had good WiFi connections to the network. Directly connected PCs continued to work normally. I tried three extra tests:

1. I checked to see if streaming media (e.g.YouTube videos) would work on the PCs connected directly. Everything worked normally.

2. I used a tablet PC to check if non-streaming internet usage would work via WiFi. It didn't work, although the WiFi connection was shown as good.

3. I connected an internet radio directly to the network by ethernet to see if a streaming device would work when directly connected. It didn't work.

While I was conducting these tests, the GUI became almost completely unresponsive, and effectively unusable.

For the record, the HG612 device details are the same as One2Go's details shown above (apart from a different device ID of course).

I really don't know what to make of this. Apart from the three directly connected PCs, nothing seems to have internet access, although everything connects to the network satisfactorily. As before, replacing the HG612 with my other one with the non-GUI version of this firmware restored normal working to every device. I can only think that it's a memory issue.



Bugger!  I suppose I should have known it wouldn't be as simple as it appeared. Probably did somewhere in the back of my mind.

Can I impose upon you terribly and ask you to run some tests for me when you get time.

If you still have telnet access when everything has ground to a halt, can you run 'top' to get the memory stats.

Also, try killing the 'web' processes as soon as the modem finishes booting - before the interface is used - and see if it still grinds to a halt. Comparision memory stats from after you've killed the web processes and after the wireless devices stop working would also be useful.


If it would help I can build an image in which the web interface is not automatically started. It could then be started via telnet when needed and stopped afterwards.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 31, 2013, 06:35:15 PM
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Can I impose upon you terribly and ask you to run some tests for me when you get time.

If you still have telnet access when everything has ground to a halt, can you run 'top' to get the memory stats.

Also, try killing the 'web' processes as soon as the modem finishes booting - before the interface is used - and see if it still grinds to a halt. Comparision memory stats from after you've killed the web processes and after the wireless devices stop working would also be useful.

Yes, I can do those things. Unfortunately I'm tied up tomorrow, but I'll give them a try on Saturday.

It's probably not necessary to build a special image - I can stop and restart the web interface.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 31, 2013, 09:14:05 PM
Off topic for this thread but having some relevance with 'two goes' at establishing synchronisation . . .

My Huawei HG622 does exactly that . . . However I do not have any PTM defined. The only thing that may be relevant is that 'All' is selected. (As in G.Dmt, ADSL2, ADSL2+, VDSL2, etc.)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on October 31, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
   That is interesting, I am of course using annex m and that needs setting specifically.   Mine definitely only does only one sync but I do select annex m  via --configure before connecting.

 The gui in the lastest version does not allow just adsl2+ to be selected, it sticks at "all" -- at least mine does.  You can however easily select just one option (other than annex m) by editing a saved config file replacing "ALL" with eg "ADSL"+" and then uploading it.  Done that way the change persists.

  edit -- in fact I am fairly sure I had two syncs with annex m enable prior to removing the defined connection under the ptm tab  -- I  will do a few careful tests tomorrow in case my recollections are wrong
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on October 31, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
Both my HG612s are configured for ADSL2+ only, and still sync in two stages. I'm not sure about PTM, and I can't check at the moment because I don't have a GUI interface and I don't know how to get the information from the CLI.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 01, 2013, 10:27:43 AM
 ???   I am fairly confused at the moment and have made a resolution to test things more carefully before posting anything.

  In summary nothing I have tried with the 038 version with GUI + nobtagent will make it return to a double sync -this included a hard reset and minimal addition of the ATM connection. 

  Returning to the 035 new blob asbo version brings back the double sync.  Upgrading back to 038 returns the single sync.   ???
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 01, 2013, 10:48:38 AM
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I am fairly confused at the moment

You're not alone...   :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 01, 2013, 12:54:20 PM
Right, my HG612 arrived this morning and I have flashed this new test firmware (SP10 with no BT agent, GUI). All is working well so far.

My line is currently banded (REIN fault) so I won't see any performance improvement right now but if I do, I'll be sure to let you know.

Thanks for all the hard work that has gone into getting this firmware to work.

Edit: Is there any advantage to using the SP06 firmware? My HG612 came with the SP10 firmware so I thought it would make sense to use that one again.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 01, 2013, 02:19:05 PM
???   I am fairly confused at the moment

  Still confused but after much messing about all I can get is an association of behavior only with the firmware version. i.e.

  B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent  ---  gives single sync and good gui response

  B028SP10_no-btagent   --gives double stage sync  and good gui response

   It looks like I erroneously associated the change from double to single sync with the wrong thing.  I am also puzzled where the unresponsive gui's have gone -- none found today even with  firmware uploads and hard resets.  Today I have cleared the browser cache and history for each test and wonder whether the poor response found before may have been due to not doing this?  No more testing today the DSLAM may need a rest!

  Comment to Alex::  you have the 035 blob in that SP10, B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent has the newer 038 blob  from BT. This may be better but it is probably fair to say that it is under test at this time.  As your line is banded it may be worth waiting before trying B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 01, 2013, 09:41:48 PM
Many thanks to Howlingwolf for the work.

Just curious. Are any chance of using this firmware in HG610 ? looking at previously looks made by Asbokid , I see that the board is the same ( HG612V HG610V ) differing only in the number of ethernet ports and leds.

Edit. I just found at Huawei website a pretty recent opensource firmware file for HG610. http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDcxNjk=
Dated 2013-05-07
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HUAWEI_VERSION=EchoLife_
HUAWEI_PRODUCTCLASS="HG610"
HUAWEI_RELEASE=HG610V100R001C02B011
HUAWEI_EXTRAVERSION=V100R001C02B011
HUAWEI_BATCHNUMBER=BC2P0.011.A2pv6C033f.d22g
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on November 01, 2013, 10:38:58 PM
Many thanks to Howlingwolf for the work.

Indeed. From all of us.  :drink:

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Just curious. Are any chance of using this firmware in HG610 ? looking at previously looks made by Asbokid , I see that the board is the same ( HG612V HG610V ) differing only in the number of ethernet ports and leds.

Would you be prepared to try it and then report back with your findings, please?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 01, 2013, 11:22:16 PM
Many thanks to Howlingwolf for the work.

Indeed. From all of us.  :drink:

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Just curious. Are any chance of using this firmware in HG610 ? looking at previously looks made by Asbokid , I see that the board is the same ( HG612V HG610V ) differing only in the number of ethernet ports and leds.

Would you be prepared to try it and then report back with your findings, please?

I will try it if I have an original firmware to flash it back in case of something gone wrong.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 01, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
Comment to Alex::  you have the 035 blob in that SP10, B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent has the newer 038 blob  from BT. This may be better but it is probably fair to say that it is under test at this time.  As your line is banded it may be worth waiting before trying B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent.

I assume that's for me. I'm really sorry, but I'm Alec, not Alex!  :-X

Thanks for the advice. I'll probably give it a go at some point, it's not really going to make any difference either way. At least I'll have it on there so once our line is fixed I can take another look :).
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on November 02, 2013, 01:56:35 AM
Both my HG612s are configured for ADSL2+ only, and still sync in two stages. I'm not sure about PTM, and I can't check at the moment because I don't have a GUI interface and I don't know how to get the information from the CLI.

The current config is stored in /var/curcfg.xml. If you can get that off the modem, then any syntax highlighting editor should make it semi-legible. WAN connections are defined by a line starting '<WANIPConnectionInstance'.

Oddly, I do seem to vaguely remember noticing something of the kind myself but I didn't take much notice of it I'm afraid. I was focused on other things.


Just curious. Are any chance of using this firmware in HG610 ? looking at previously looks made by Asbokid , I see that the board is the same ( HG612V HG610V ) differing only in the number of ethernet ports and leds.

Would you be prepared to try it and then report back with your findings, please?

I will try it if I have an original firmware to flash it back in case of something gone wrong.


If it's the same board then, assuming it uses the same firmware layout, you can dump the flashmem using the serial port and extract the components needed from that.

It will require a certain amount of open case surgery.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 02, 2013, 02:24:35 AM
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If it's the same board then, assuming it uses the same firmware layout, you can dump the flashmem using the serial port and extract the components needed from that.

The serial port is TTL 5 volts or 3.3volts ?
I already have one usb serial cable ( PL2303 ) used to data transfer with an old Siemens cellphone.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on November 02, 2013, 03:21:52 AM
The PL2303 based USB to serial cable should do the trick.

Er, 3.3V, if I have remembered correctly. Application of a DMM's probes should confirm it.  ;)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 02, 2013, 07:31:04 AM
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The current config is stored in /var/curcfg.xml. If you can get that off the modem, then any syntax highlighting editor should make it semi-legible. WAN connections are defined by a line starting '<WANIPConnectionInstance'.

That string doesn't seem to exist in the B030SP06_unlocked firmware. However there is a line starting:

<WANPTMLinkConfig Enable="1"

which seems to confirm that the PTM interface is active at present.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 02, 2013, 08:08:29 AM
  In /var/curcfg.xmlI I only have a WANDSLLinkConfig Enable="1" and WANPTMLinkConfig Enable is absent, I guess this is consistent with a single sync. Out of interest I will do some tests to try to change the WANxxxLinkConfigs in this file.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 02, 2013, 10:01:46 AM
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I don't suppose somebody could take a deeper look into the bug whereby the HG612 will only allow you to use its gateway IP for DNS when a client is assigned an IP by DHCP?

I would, but I wouldn't even know where to start!

Sorry to bump my own post, but it appears that it may have been missed.

It's fine if it can't be fixed, so don't get hung up on it.

Thank you :).
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 02, 2013, 11:02:42 AM
I've reinstalled the HG612 with B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware and checked the memory usage (all values are kB)

Code: [Select]
                Used    Free    Shared    Buffers    Cached
                ----    ----    ------    -------    ------

Not connected, with GUI:    22428    6328    0    2188    6480
Not connected, GUI killed:    21840    6904    0    2188    6484
Connected, with GUI        22844    5900    0    2244    6700
Connected, GUI killed        22220    6524    0    2244    6704


In all cases remote devices failed to receive internet data. So the problem isn't the presence of the GUI as such, nor would it seem to be a memory issue.

Having killed the GUI, I'd like to try restarting it, but I'm not sure how to do that. The command appears to be /bin/web, but however I execute that command it doesn't work.

[*** Sorry about the formatting - it looked OK on preview]
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 02, 2013, 11:12:24 AM
which seems to confirm that the PTM interface is active at present.

  Removing the connection ptm1 on the PTM gui tab does remove the WANPTMLinkConfig Enable="1" and assuming an ATM connection is set up it just leaves the WANDSLLinkConfig Enable="1".  I favour deleting unused things but after tests I can't tell whether it helps - it certainly does not hinder anything.
 
In all cases remote devices failed to receive internet data.

    I used DHCP on the HG612 then to router and on to wireless but no internet access failures here - in a few 24 periods now.  I am hopeless re LAN things but I think I once had problems with time servers out of sync between devices.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 02, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
The current config is stored in /var/curcfg.xml.

   The curcfg.xml file looks identical to a saved config file.  Don't go to any trouble but do you know have any idea how curcfg.xml is used? 

I ask as I  wonder on whether AnnexM might be added as a valid dsl type.  AnnexM is available via xdslcmd configure or start with "--mod m" or for all --mod dlt2pmv" and works. It would be nice save that config but as very few use annex m it is not worth much effort achieving it.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 02, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
Well...

I have found the same firmware that my HG610 come in the docs.google.com ( https://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0B6wW18mYskvBWnQ4V1BrRGRRblE ).
Flashed my HG610 with the experimental firmware by Howlingwolf to see what happened  ;) . Version unlockedgui - nobtagent.

First look:
1- the gui works, but many operations show errors "WEB 0 unknows error". I can't save settings.
2- the four ethernet ports are working

@Howlingwolf
Since I can't save permanently the settings and the only setting that need to be changed to operate at my provider is VLANID=600 ( GVT - Brasil ) could you assemble a custom version with this setting ?  :blush:  I use the modem in bridge mode with a tplink wdr4300 managing pppoe.


Edit. The new binary shows downstream attenuation instead of 0 like the previous firmwares.

Edit2. Connected sucessfuly to the internet using the modem in bridge and pppoe via windows7. The settings bind port1 to the connection but only works in port4 in hg610.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on November 02, 2013, 06:23:39 PM


Edit. I just found at Huawei website a pretty recent opensource firmware file for HG610. http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDcxNjk=
Dated 2013-05-07
Quote
HUAWEI_VERSION=EchoLife_
HUAWEI_PRODUCTCLASS="HG610"
HUAWEI_RELEASE=HG610V100R001C02B011
HUAWEI_EXTRAVERSION=V100R001C02B011
HUAWEI_BATCHNUMBER=BC2P0.011.A2pv6C033f.d22g

   You may want to see what Howlingwolf or other say but I would guess that you would be better off trying the updated firmware that you mentioned in your post.  That looks like the 033 blob which is also in the HG622 and performs well.  With the 038 version your trying at the moment you most likely won't get much, if any, extra benefit and the HG610 specific firmware ought to have the real advantage of working correctly.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on November 03, 2013, 03:45:25 AM
That string doesn't seem to exist in the B030SP06_unlocked firmware. However there is a line starting:

<WANPTMLinkConfig Enable="1"

which seems to confirm that the PTM interface is active at present.

  In /var/curcfg.xmlI I only have a WANDSLLinkConfig Enable="1" and WANPTMLinkConfig Enable is absent, I guess this is consistent with a single sync. Out of interest I will do some tests to try to change the WANxxxLinkConfigs in this file.

That makes sense and is something I really should have thought of myself  :-[

FTTC is an 'ethernet' connection, while all variations of adsl are ATM. A different beast entirely.


I've reinstalled the HG612 with B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent firmware and checked the memory usage (all values are kB)

Code: [Select]
                Used    Free    Shared    Buffers    Cached
                ----    ----    ------    -------    ------

Not connected, with GUI:    22428    6328    0    2188    6480
Not connected, GUI killed:    21840    6904    0    2188    6484
Connected, with GUI        22844    5900    0    2244    6700
Connected, GUI killed        22220    6524    0    2244    6704


In all cases remote devices failed to receive internet data. So the problem isn't the presence of the GUI as such, nor would it seem to be a memory issue.

Having killed the GUI, I'd like to try restarting it, but I'm not sure how to do that. The command appears to be /bin/web, but however I execute that command it doesn't work.

[*** Sorry about the formatting - it looked OK on preview]


Very odd indeed...  That is certainly the correct command.

Can you check the MD5 sum of the firmware image matches this: 7e4d07f0c7e9264342a5c6b5f97b4663


The current config is stored in /var/curcfg.xml.

   The curcfg.xml file looks identical to a saved config file.  Don't go to any trouble but do you know have any idea how curcfg.xml is used? 

I ask as I  wonder on whether AnnexM might be added as a valid dsl type.  AnnexM is available via xdslcmd configure or start with "--mod m" or for all --mod dlt2pmv" and works. It would be nice save that config but as very few use annex m it is not worth much effort achieving it.

I suspect curcfg.xml is created during the boot process either from the 'config blocks' in the flashmem or /etc/defaultcfg.xml if those are blank, but I can't say for sure. It does occur to me that it's probably the source for the save config option, so I suppose it stands to reason that they would be identical.

As it happens I do know where to set that option in the config :)  It showed up in the initial diff I ran against the default configs as it's one of the things which has changed between B0280SP10 and B030SP06.

Look for a line which starts '<WANDSLInterfaceConfig'. Near the end is 'ConfigMode' which contains a list of modulation options.

Unfortunately I don't know if an option for Annex M exists in the cli binary. However I will take a look and get back to you on that as soon as I can.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on November 03, 2013, 04:11:28 AM
Well...

I have found the same firmware that my HG610 come in the docs.google.com ( https://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0B6wW18mYskvBWnQ4V1BrRGRRblE ).
Flashed my HG610 with the experimental firmware by Howlingwolf to see what happened  ;) . Version unlockedgui - nobtagent.

First look:
1- the gui works, but many operations show errors "WEB 0 unknows error". I can't save settings.
2- the four ethernet ports are working

@Howlingwolf
Since I can't save permanently the settings and the only setting that need to be changed to operate at my provider is VLANID=600 ( GVT - Brasil ) could you assemble a custom version with this setting ?  :blush:  I use the modem in bridge mode with a tplink wdr4300 managing pppoe.


Edit. The new binary shows downstream attenuation instead of 0 like the previous firmwares.

Edit2. Connected sucessfuly to the internet using the modem in bridge and pppoe via windows7. The settings bind port1 to the connection but only works in port4 in hg610.

Thank you for trying that. I must admit I did expect some problems as this firmware is built specifically for BT. An organisation which could give lessons in anti-social behavior to Microsoft.

A custom image...  Um... Yes. I probably could but I'm not sure that's wise given the errors you're experiencing. The saving config issue is of particular concern as that operation appears to write directly to the flashmem on the HG612.

I have to agree with les about using the correct firmware. The benefit of having an interface which works properly probably outweighs any potential benefits from the 038 blob.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 03, 2013, 07:46:55 AM
Quote
Can you check the MD5 sum of the firmware image matches this: 7e4d07f0c7e9264342a5c6b5f97b4663

$ md5sum bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
7e4d07f0c7e9264342a5c6b5f97b4663  bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent

Yes, it matches.

I guess I need to make sure that there isn't an issue with the hardware. I'll try flashing this with other versions of the firmware, starting with B030SP06_unlockedgui.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 03, 2013, 02:25:56 PM
The 'B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent' seems to have disappeared from the download page linked previously, or am I just being silly?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 03, 2013, 03:35:12 PM
Well...

I have found the same firmware that my HG610 come in the docs.google.com ( https://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0B6wW18mYskvBWnQ4V1BrRGRRblE ).
Flashed my HG610 with the experimental firmware by Howlingwolf to see what happened  ;) . Version unlockedgui - nobtagent.

First look:
1- the gui works, but many operations show errors "WEB 0 unknows error". I can't save settings.
2- the four ethernet ports are working

@Howlingwolf
Since I can't save permanently the settings and the only setting that need to be changed to operate at my provider is VLANID=600 ( GVT - Brasil ) could you assemble a custom version with this setting ?  :blush:  I use the modem in bridge mode with a tplink wdr4300 managing pppoe.


Edit. The new binary shows downstream attenuation instead of 0 like the previous firmwares.

Edit2. Connected sucessfuly to the internet using the modem in bridge and pppoe via windows7. The settings bind port1 to the connection but only works in port4 in hg610.

Thank you for trying that. I must admit I did expect some problems as this firmware is built specifically for BT. An organisation which could give lessons in anti-social behavior to Microsoft.

A custom image...  Um... Yes. I probably could but I'm not sure that's wise given the errors you're experiencing. The saving config issue is of particular concern as that operation appears to write directly to the flashmem on the HG612.

I have to agree with les about using the correct firmware. The benefit of having an interface which works properly probably outweighs any potential benefits from the 038 blob.

Anyway thanks for your work.
I'm yet to try the experimental firmware in my HG612 but not much time to do this since this modem is in my primary internet connection.

My major curiosity about the 038 blob is if it add support to vectoring.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 03, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
The 'B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent' seems to have disappeared from the download page linked previously, or am I just being silly?

It's in the Experimental folder: https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 03, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
The 'B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent' seems to have disappeared from the download page linked previously, or am I just being silly?

It's in the Experimental folder: https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA)

I'm still not seeing it. Here's what I get:

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: zhadoom on November 03, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
The 'B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent' seems to have disappeared from the download page linked previously, or am I just being silly?

It's in the Experimental folder: https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA)

I'm still not seeing it. Here's what I get:

The file is inside "Experimental" folder. Click in "Experimental" to see the contents.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 03, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
The 'B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent' seems to have disappeared from the download page linked previously, or am I just being silly?

It's in the Experimental folder: https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!jB5BxYqA)

I'm still not seeing it. Here's what I get:

The file is inside "Experimental" folder. Click in "Experimental" to see the contents.

Oh, silly, silly me! I completely missed that.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 03, 2013, 05:55:29 PM
All,

Whilst I was setting up the 'ATM' settings on the HG612, I happened upon the 'Service type:' option, for which there is drop-down menu. This menu has four options: 'UBR without PCR', 'CBR', 'Non Realtime VBR' and 'Realtime VBR'. These all have three options, except for 'UBR without PCR' which has none. I therefore assume that most people choose this option.

Do the other options have any benefit?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 03, 2013, 11:01:32 PM
CBR = Constant bit rate
VBR = Variable bit rate (which can be real time or not)
UBR = Unspecified bit rate
PCR = Peak cell rate

I suspect (but don't know) that UBR without PCR is the only option which will work with current UK systems. There's quite a bit of information here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk39/tk51/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094cd0.shtml and associated pages.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on November 04, 2013, 01:54:38 AM
I suspect (but don't know) that UBR without PCR is the only option which will work with current UK systems.

That was also my suspicion when I first investigated those options.
Title: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 04, 2013, 06:48:29 AM
I suspect (but don't know) that UBR without PCR is the only option which will work with current UK systems.

That was also my suspicion when I first investigated those options.

Well, my curiosity got the better of me here and I gave them all a try. They do in fact all work!

Do the other options make a difference? A tiny bit (perhaps), I gained maybe +-10K by changing, but this may have just been due to changing conditions, different ISP servers, etc.

Therefore, I'd recommend everybody just uses the default option (i.e. UBR without PCR).
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 04, 2013, 07:25:09 AM
It would be an interesting experiment for people on different types of connection to try the different options, to see if any of them do make any significant difference. Of course, the fact that you can change that option in the HG612 doesn't mean that anything responds to it. For example, I have SRA enabled in the HG612, but as we all know, SRA isn't currently configured on any UK DSL system.

In fact, realtime VBR sounds very much like SRA.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 04, 2013, 11:35:53 AM
That's probably a good evaluation of the data Roseway.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on November 04, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
Id stick with UBR.  I havent read that cisco link but its to do with traffic quality of the datastream.

iirc BTw already have 2 separate traffic streams set up, and leaving it as unspecified should pick up the correct traffic type as defined by your ISP.  BTVision type traffic is treated differently because its time sensitive and sent in its own stream.

CBR (if it can be set) is an interesting one. Constant Bit Rate is non-interleaved.  Kind of like how the old fixed rate 512/1Mb/2Mb used to be. 
Dont know if it will work with rate adaptive DSL though.  Its my understanding that you have to specify a specific amount of bandwidth to allocate to CBR..  so you could say portion off 2Mbps and make it non-interleaved.  I would imagine the other end of the VC would also have to have the same settings for this to work though.


UBR is "unspecified" and backhaul traffic stream will be managed by BTw.
The other settings involve 'portioning' off parts of your available bandwidth so that 'x' type of traffic only travels in the stream designated, 'voip' traffic only goes in the VBRrt. etc etc

Changing those settings (if they do actually take effect!) may give a slightly higher sync (dont know how it would affect interleave), but it may seriously mess up your throughput speeds.
Those settings are more designed for say a leased line with their own intranet or wide area lan (deliberately didnt type WAN in case it was misunderstood).
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on November 04, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
Quote
Can you check the MD5 sum of the firmware image matches this: 7e4d07f0c7e9264342a5c6b5f97b4663

$ md5sum bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
7e4d07f0c7e9264342a5c6b5f97b4663  bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent

Yes, it matches.

I guess I need to make sure that there isn't an issue with the hardware. I'll try flashing this with other versions of the firmware, starting with B030SP06_unlockedgui.

I can't see it being a hardware problem if wired connections are ok, but you're right. It is something which needs to be eliminated.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: GigabitEthernet on November 05, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
Still struggling with the DNS not working!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: broadstairs on November 05, 2013, 08:34:18 PM
Has this potential bug (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/11/bt-openreach-fttc-superfast-broadband-modems-break-vpn-access.html) been mentioned in this thread yet? Looks like BT may have to do another update again soon!

Stuart
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: c6em on November 05, 2013, 08:36:58 PM
Not yet in this thread
but elsewhere
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13162.msg249001#msg249001 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13162.msg249001#msg249001)

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: broadstairs on November 05, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
There is another page here (http://revk.www.me.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-fttc-modem-bug-breaking-vpns.html) which is the original post about the finding.

Stuart
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on November 05, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
expect another new firmware soon.

http://revk.www.me.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-fttc-modem-bug-breaking-vpns.html
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on November 05, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
expect another new firmware soon.

http://revk.www.me.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-fttc-modem-bug-breaking-vpns.html

Chrys did you miss Stuart's post, #158, directly above?  :-\
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on November 06, 2013, 02:35:26 AM
I did prior to posting yes.  I am lazy so no edit or delete ;)

Mainly because he had the url under the word here.  So until clicking it didnt know was same.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on November 06, 2013, 04:50:03 AM
Has this potential bug (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/11/bt-openreach-fttc-superfast-broadband-modems-break-vpn-access.html) been mentioned in this thread yet? Looks like BT may have to do another update again soon!

Stuart

I wonder if this is related to Eric's problem with his wireless devices. Streaming media protocols often use UDP as the transport layer for efficiency reasons.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on November 06, 2013, 07:37:34 AM
Has this potential bug (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/11/bt-openreach-fttc-superfast-broadband-modems-break-vpn-access.html) been mentioned in this thread yet? Looks like BT may have to do another update again soon!

Stuart

I wonder if this is related to Eric's problem with his wireless devices. Streaming media protocols often use UDP as the transport layer for efficiency reasons.


I've been wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on November 06, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
Mainly because he had the url under the word here.  So until clicking it didnt know was same.

[off-topic]
Cat-tip -- Just hover your GUI pointer over the word (http://elrepo.org/people/ajb/burakkucat.jpg). You can often elucidate significant information (depending upon the browser used) without clicking there upon!  ;)
[/off-topic]
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on December 11, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
So is this stable for 24/7 use now?, and theres a GUI again?. EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I get frustrated when having to read loads of stuff, don't know why, I guess im one of thos people whos brains are always active never stop working things out etc.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Greybeard33 on December 12, 2013, 08:18:45 PM
So is this stable for 24/7 use now?, and theres a GUI again?. EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I get frustrated when having to read loads of stuff, don't know why, I guess im one of thos people whos brains are always active never stop working things out etc.
I have not tried Howlingwolf's version with the GUI - still using the standard BT version as updated automatically. However, as far as the new BLOB is concerned, my line has now been stable for 46 days and counting, after two resyncs in the first week. DS max attainable rate and SNRM are slightly better than the best the original firmware ever managed.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on December 12, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
So is this stable for 24/7 use now?, and theres a GUI again?. EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I get frustrated when having to read loads of stuff, don't know why, I guess im one of thos people whos brains are always active never stop working things out etc.


I have been using Howlingwolf's GUI version for a few weeks now, with no adverse effects.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on December 12, 2013, 08:51:52 PM
I left the new firmware in place and errors have calmed down, but still about 70% higher than the previous firmware.

I am amazed I even have around the same sync speed given this new blob disables numerous tones.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on December 12, 2013, 10:46:06 PM
I left the new firmware in place and errors have calmed down, but still about 70% higher than the previous firmware.

I am amazed I even have around the same sync speed given this new blob disables numerous tones.

I went back to Asbo's blob a few weeks ago and after binning the powerline adapters all seems back to normal, I don't and can't see any real benefit on the new firmware, think Asbo's is rock solid in my opinion there seems less error's overall and it's not a knee jerk reaction it feels better on my line or modem  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on December 12, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
agreed its better I will be downgrading at some point.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on December 20, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
Ok... I kinda agree on asbo's firmware mod, it does seem to perform better at first glance... however... ive left bt's pushed update alone and now its settled I have a higher sync speed than ever before which of course gives me more errors, seems to handle errors really well... I get pooh loads RSCORR/RS and ES errors at night which should trigger a resync but never does. I think if you five it chance you will see the difference. So I can go ahead and flash the modded firmware with the GUI then... COOL!. I do have the new hhb5 but am still running it through the modem... I guess I was thinking backup more than actual 24/7 use on the built in vdsl. I shall have have to wait to flash the firmware though... need my attainable rate to rise again or ill get pooh sync after the flash. Oh yes... hhb4 being donated to the cause... maybe you brainy guys would like to rip it a part?. Its got to be for testing/research purposes though... not for home use.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on December 23, 2013, 12:53:17 AM
I have reflashed to Howlingwolf's firmware to-night the sync rate is higher but will let you know how it pans out over a month, thought this was the rebuilt GUI version but don't seem to be able to access the Modem GUI  ???


Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on January 01, 2014, 12:58:32 PM
Ive been connected 51days, the new bt updated firmware is defo the best in the long run, I really want to flash the modded gui version but cant bring myself to disconnect... ive never been in sync this long ever. How long do you have to wait for interleave to switch off?, isn't 52 days enough?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on January 01, 2014, 02:37:26 PM
It might never switch off, depends on what's affecting your line. I seem to get long periods without interleaving, and then periods with it, 499 days attached.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on January 02, 2014, 08:30:13 AM
Lol... I just noticed that the modem is stuck in a loop on  49 days 17 hours 2 min 45 sec, seems the counter is stuck, I know ive been up longer than that.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on January 02, 2014, 08:32:09 AM
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 9554 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60784 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 9223 Kbps, Downstream rate = 52997 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    6.2       6.6
Attn(dB):    21.6       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    12.4       6.6
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      18      26
B:      51      237
M:      1      1
T:      64      35
R:      12      16
S:      0.0312      0.8194
L:      16400      2480
D:      1037      1
I:      64      127
N:      64      254
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      2228688006      2340308
OHFErr:      43781      14957
RS:      3608320039      4285395
RSCorr:      3673998937      149642
RSUnCorr:   3323225      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      670225      0
OCD:      22313      0
LCD:      22313      0
Total Cells:   262786148      0
Data Cells:   4184405062      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      8225      12648
SES:      16      3
UAS:      25      25
AS:      4470466

         Bearer 0
INP:      3.00      0.00
INPRein:   0.00      0.00
delay:      8      0
PER:      2.00      7.19
OR:      95.71      35.56
AgR:      53092.60   9258.95

Bitswap:   3350173/3350191      677802/679420

Total time = 1 days 17 hours 48 min 11 sec
FEC:      3673998937      149642
CRC:      43781      14957
ES:      8225      12648
SES:      16      3
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      2      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 11 sec
FEC:      1455      2
CRC:      4      0
ES:      1      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      19519      3
CRC:      15      3
ES:      2      3
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 17 hours 48 min 11 sec
FEC:      26375755      419
CRC:      499      178
ES:      116      160
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:      2230294      1339
CRC:      568      251
ES:      119      227
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 49 days 17 hours 2 min 45 sec
FEC:      3673998937      149642
CRC:      43781      14957
ES:      8225      12648
SES:      16      3
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      2      0

I guess I might aswell flash the modded version. I have to pull the power first right to send a signal to the dlm?, does it work like that with this modem. How long do I leave it before plugging back in? EDIT: Ok all sorted, got the gui back, bt agent seems to be missing on both experimental firmware, so opted for non btagent anyway, seems good, bit more sync and speed tests are so stable now, I guess the bt agent was polling all the time?.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on January 02, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
Lol... I just noticed that the modem is stuck in a loop on  49 days 17 hours 2 min 45 sec, seems the counter is stuck, I know ive been up longer than that.

Yes, that's a known bug (or feature). It corresponds approximately to 2^31 milliseconds, so the value is probably held internally in a signed 32-bit variable.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on January 02, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
Fantastic work... never had such a stable speed test ever, needle just stays at 50.00mbps no fluctuation. BT agent must of influenced it. Does my line look ok for the first 3 hours?, t many errors or is it average?
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 9432 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58640 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 9446 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53617 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    5.3       6.3
Attn(dB):    21.5       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    12.4       6.9
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      18      26
B:      51      237
M:      1      1
T:      64      35
R:      12      16
S:      0.0309      0.8000
L:      16592      2540
D:      1049      1
I:      64      127
N:      64      254
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      4384044      1241597
OHFErr:      60      15
RS:      1122187314      506252
RSCorr:      245147      34
RSUnCorr:   2921      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      568      0
OCD:      22      0
LCD:      22      0
Total Cells:   896074488      0
Data Cells:   9407737      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      16      15
SES:      0      0
UAS:      19      19
AS:      8692

         Bearer 0
INP:      3.00      0.00
INPRein:   0.00      0.00
delay:      8      0
PER:      1.98      7.02
OR:      96.84      36.42
AgR:      53714.17   9482.95

Bitswap:   6846/6846      925/925

Total time = 2 hours 25 min 11 sec
FEC:      245147      34
CRC:      60      15
ES:      16      15
SES:      0      0
UAS:      19      19
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 11 sec
FEC:      25323      1
CRC:      0      3
ES:      0      3
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      34031      0
CRC:      11      0
ES:      3      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 2 hours 25 min 11 sec
FEC:      245147      34
CRC:      60      15
ES:      16      15
SES:      0      0
UAS:      19      19
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 2 hours 24 min 51 sec
FEC:      245147      34
CRC:      60      15
ES:      16      15
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
#
SLAM/MSAN type:   BDCM:0xa415 / v0xa415
DSL mode:          VDSL2
Status:            Showtime
Uptime:            2 hours 25 min 51 sec
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Attenuation (dB):          21.5      0.0
Connection speed (kbps):   53617      9446
SNR margin (dB):           5.4      6.3
Power (dBm):               12.4      6.9
Interleave depth:          1049      1
INP:                       3.00      0

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0219      0.0042
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0003      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 02, 2014, 08:24:48 PM
Does my line look ok for the first 3 hours?

The errors don't seem to excessive and quite good, you may get a few retrains after powering off the Modem in the wee small hours at 4:00am it could be retrain reason 1 or 2 and nothing to worry about  ;)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Balb0wa on January 05, 2014, 09:50:58 AM
I upgraded mine the other day, i was on sp10 unlocked for ages, tried some of the new ones, and whatever i do, i cant disable qos.

it will save the setting, but its having no effect on my poor line, i use to get 1200k upload with it off, i now get 756k

My line is 1100 metres, i get 13 down and 756k up now. its mostly aluminium  :( still better than 2mb on adls2 though.

Ive tried going back to the sp10 unlocked , but the upload remains on 756k, ive done a hard reset as well.

It might not sound like a great loss, but its nearly halved it, a pain in the arse for uploading to youtube.



Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 06, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Hello BalbOwa and welcome to the forums, unfortunately turning off the VDSL2 modem to update the firmware does sometimes give you a lower DS & US sync for longer lines I know all to well.

You may have also seen an increase in Interleaving since the reboot and you may have to wait for a few weeks until the DLM increases your US Sync, so you will need to stay with the current firmware your on until you get a better Re-Sync

If you have any DSLstats or HG612stats graphs before and after would help to understand how your line is performing.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on January 06, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
BalbOwa it has no affect because now the issue of losing 10% throughput is gone, are you sure it has the same upload sync speed?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Balb0wa on January 07, 2014, 09:30:51 AM
The thing is, its not the dlm, before i could turn off qos and get a bit more upload, now it makes no difference at all.

I had to email the exec office to get infinity a few yrs ago, as they didn't do it for lines that would get 15mb or less, when they put you on the trial they put you on the 40 down 2 up profile. Ive tried to get them to put me on the 40/10 profile, as i thought that would get me a little more upload, but they said it wouldn't.

My theory being more you push down the line more gets through ;D

My interleaving is on the medium setting, ive had a line profile reset before, gives me a 16ms ping, then after a few days it goes onto the next setting which im on now 24ms to the bbc. very very rare it goes onto the third level 30ms+.

Its crazy though, i used to get more upload when i was on adsl2 and the line was over 5km to the exchange, now its only 1km to the green cab.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg833.imageshack.us%2Fimg833%2F9891%2F8am6.jpg&hash=d34e968bba90cf7f897057806a3089776337d039)


(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg208.imageshack.us%2Fimg208%2F1314%2Fsfd6.jpg&hash=61298fe482033567f2b5b4458cc4da514efe266e)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on January 07, 2014, 09:54:29 AM
newtronstar is right, the sync is now lowered and in particular your attainable up is higher than your actual up sync, so dlm has done something, probably interleaving, but it could also be banding.

plus the qos setting never made a huge difference like you have stated, it gave approx 10% boost on the older firmware (on throughput not sync speed), 700kbit to 1.2mbit is way more than 10%.

update I think its banding given the 20db snrm.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 07, 2014, 10:45:53 PM

Its crazy though, i used to get more upload when i was on adsl2 and the line was over 5km to the exchange, now its only 1km to the green cab.


There is one thing you can try, you need to reboot the modem when the Attainable rate is at it's highest, for me it's at 1pm it should give you an extra meg or so on the DS & US slight increase if it does then fine if does not then your gonna have to wait as per my last post  :wall:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: coneygreen on January 10, 2014, 06:43:02 AM
 ;D Have reflashed my HG612 with Howlingwolfs bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent after BT locked me out again.
I'm getting the best throughput ever.
THANKS
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jmutton on January 12, 2014, 09:42:30 AM
Hi there,

I'm also experiencing no wireless connectivity on my main router (Draytek 2850n) but wireless does work connected via my wireless AP (AP-800) which is wired directly into the router.

I flashed with the following firmware: bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: colly05 on January 12, 2014, 03:28:37 PM
hi guys im on A2pv6C035m.d22g V100R001C01B028SP10 and am looking to try the newer firmware how do i go about the update do i reset then do as i did on the original unlock sorry for the nooooob question
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on January 12, 2014, 04:06:52 PM
Use the same procedure as you used for the original unlock (keep the reset button pressed for 5 seconds while powering up the modem, etc.). It shouldn't be necessary to reset it first.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: colly05 on January 12, 2014, 04:25:29 PM
thanks for prompt reply ill give it a go in a bit any pref to which firmare to go for and is it the same user name and password to get to the ui
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on January 12, 2014, 04:31:04 PM
The general experience is that the version mentioned here is the favourite: http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13130.msg252900#msg252900
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on January 12, 2014, 05:48:33 PM
Im finding this modded version with no BT agent fantastic ....im sure that bt agent was interfering in some way .....my line as never been so good or stable ....but it could also be the freezing wheather expanding the copper making tighter connections ....which I think is more probable.
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 9677 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59916 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 9450 Kbps, Downstream rate = 54057 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    5.5       6.5
Attn(dB):    21.5       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    12.5       6.8
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      18      26
B:      51      237
M:      1      1
T:      64      35
R:      12      16
S:      0.0306      0.7997
L:      16728      2541
D:      1057      1
I:      64      127
N:      64      254
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      100471223      1862447
OHFErr:      1854      668
DSLAM/MSAN type:   BDCM:0xa415 / v0xa415
DSL mode:          VDSL2
Status:            Showtime
Uptime:            2 days 6 hours 53 min 15 sec
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Attenuation (dB):          21.5      0.0
Connection speed (kbps):   54057      9450
SNR margin (dB):           5.5      6.6
Power (dBm):               12.5      6.7
Interleave depth:          1057      1
INP:                       3.00      0

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.2177      0.3498
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0030      0.0000
ES/hour:                   7.55      14.2

xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 9677 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60328 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 9450 Kbps, Downstream rate = 54057 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2600)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
     VDSL Port Details        Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:        9677 kbps          60328 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:          6.8 dBm           12.5 dBm
====================================================================================
  VDSL Band Status   U0   U1   U2   U3   U4   D1   D2   D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):   6.1   34.5   51.8   N/A   N/A   16.3   42.4   64.8
Signal Attenuation(dB):   6.1   33.5   49.7   N/A   N/A   19.4   42.1   65.2
        SNR Margin(dB):   6.7   6.4   6.5   N/A   N/A   5.4   5.7   5.4
         TX Power(dBm):   0.5   8.2   5.3   N/A   N/A   8.7   8.0   6.3
#

Can anyone tell me if my line is good enough for interleaving to switch off ?? ....its never been on with upload ....so I don't get why download as it turned on.




Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: ryant704 on January 12, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
To get a better we need to see error graphs from either Eagle's program or DSLStats by Roseway.

Though You have a INP of 3 on Downstream which is the minimum(I believe) so you are likely to be getting a few but nothing over the top. For Error Seconds you are getting basically 8 down and 15 up.

You also have an Interleaving depth of 1057 which is fairly high so there will be a few errors, I was on 500ish Interleaving with 7/800 an hour. Then with the updated firmware from BT with the blocked GUI I was switched straight on to Fast Path and has been ever since. I'm also syncing at 28.3Mbps which is the best I've been since Crosstalk has removed about 8Mbps of my line though the DLM was always banding me due to powercuts.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jmutton on January 12, 2014, 10:44:54 PM
Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 13214 Kbps, Downstream rate = 62352 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 13153 Kbps, Downstream rate = 52669 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.2 6.1
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 11.7 6.7
VDSL2 framing
Path 0
B: 34 238
M: 1 1
T: 64 5
R: 8 16
S: 0.0211 0.5782
L: 16269 3528
D: 1544 1
I: 43 255
N: 43 255
Counters
Path 0
OHF: 6084983 1320068
OHFErr: 289 5
RS: 2336632855 4176278
RSCorr: 6454381 28
RSUnCorr: 10065 0

Path 0
HEC: 1772 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1255938393 0
Data Cells: 2367564 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
AS: 12401

Path 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
PER: 2.02 9.39
delay: 8.00 0.00
OR: 94.58 22.13

Bitswap: 6223 194

Total time = 3 hours 27 min 2 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 2 sec
FEC: 52736 3
CRC: 11 1
ES: 3 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 18375 9
CRC: 3 2
ES: 1 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 27 min 2 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 3 hours 26 min 41 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
#

I'm seeing an awful lot of FEC on my line. I've seen the FEC count go way over 50+ million. I've had a BT engineer here last thursday testing my line and he said it was perfect. So I'm not sure if its interference or what?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ixel on January 15, 2014, 09:31:38 AM
Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 13214 Kbps, Downstream rate = 62352 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 13153 Kbps, Downstream rate = 52669 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.2 6.1
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 11.7 6.7
VDSL2 framing
Path 0
B: 34 238
M: 1 1
T: 64 5
R: 8 16
S: 0.0211 0.5782
L: 16269 3528
D: 1544 1
I: 43 255
N: 43 255
Counters
Path 0
OHF: 6084983 1320068
OHFErr: 289 5
RS: 2336632855 4176278
RSCorr: 6454381 28
RSUnCorr: 10065 0

Path 0
HEC: 1772 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1255938393 0
Data Cells: 2367564 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
AS: 12401

Path 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
PER: 2.02 9.39
delay: 8.00 0.00
OR: 94.58 22.13

Bitswap: 6223 194

Total time = 3 hours 27 min 2 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 2 sec
FEC: 52736 3
CRC: 11 1
ES: 3 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 18375 9
CRC: 3 2
ES: 1 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 27 min 2 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 21 21
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 3 hours 26 min 41 sec
FEC: 6454381 28
CRC: 289 5
ES: 79 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
#

I'm seeing an awful lot of FEC on my line. I've seen the FEC count go way over 50+ million. I've had a BT engineer here last thursday testing my line and he said it was perfect. So I'm not sure if its interference or what?

In terms of INP and interleaving my line is similar to yours, though your attainables are less than mine. Your FEC counts aren't far off what I get though, although your ES is way higher than mine for a connection that's only been up for more than 3 hours. At best I usually have 2 to 3 ES an hour. I'm not entirely sure if FEC is accurate, mine is also similar, though as far as I'm aware my line is also performing good as well (when tested some months ago after an engineer fixed a HR fault). Interesting.

INP and sync speed are closely related to the 'D' value is I've noted, so I personally just observe what the INP and delay are. Another interesting bit of info for everyone, my INP changed from 3.0 to 3.5 this morning. I wasn't aware DLM had a profile which set 3.5, just seems like an odd level to use. I'd expect something like 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.0. Oh well, the mysteries of DLM ::).
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on January 15, 2014, 10:12:21 AM
New firmware from bad to worse for me, now down to a 54mbit sync, after I removed my modem to do some tests plusnet requested.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 15, 2014, 08:59:06 PM
Its near a month now since using Wolfy's updated firmware these are my findings the Attainable Sync remains much higher from 34200 to 36500 Kbps than Asbos's B028SP10 002 unlocked firmware and yes there does seem to be more error's being recorded but the new firmware on the MSAN and on the Modem it seems to be more resilient to those errors and the DLM intervention has softened which is great for moderate noisy longer lines like my own, it's kept a Sync of 30558 Kbps for over three weeks which I have never had since the FTTC was installed in June 2012.

Though I have had to track down some Internal Interference around the house and remove the offenders in the last 2-3 months  ;)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: door_bell on January 15, 2014, 09:04:32 PM
I've been using bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent since I got my 'spare' HG612. I'm on an ECI cabinet and to be fair, it's been rock solid. about 350M line length, looks like this:

Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 36764 Kbps, Downstream rate = 106804 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79987 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 13.6 18.1
Attn(dB): 12.9 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.2 2.5
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 18 150
B: 239 236
M: 1 1
T: 23 5
R: 0 16
S: 0.0955 0.3771
L: 20104 5410
D: 1 1
I: 240 255
N: 240 255
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 571454092 913134
OHFErr: 3467 149
RS: 0 402827
RSCorr: 0 2267
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 14902 0
OCD: 422 0
LCD: 422 0
Total Cells: 3578636675 0
Data Cells: 903492270 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 2199 143
SES: 0 0
UAS: 26 26
AS: 945117

Bearer 0
INP: 0.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 1.65 6.15
OR: 116.09 202.87
AgR: 80103.09 20203.27

Bitswap: 602704/602705 444/450

Total time = 1 days 22 hours 32 min 23 sec
FEC: 0 2267
CRC: 3467 149
ES: 2199 143
SES: 0 0
UAS: 26 26
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 2 min 23 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 1
CRC: 7 0
ES: 4 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 22 hours 32 min 23 sec
FEC: 0 206
CRC: 437 17
ES: 197 15
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 0 153
CRC: 334 11
ES: 197 11
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 10 days 22 hours 31 min 57 sec
FEC: 0 2267
CRC: 3467 149
ES: 2199 143
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#

Lost ONE mb on upload and down, but it does go up and down.....perhaps people round 'ere don't want the internet!  :lol:

Had to can the constant logging though and just use DSLstats when PC is on, saving a spot of power after a recent shock  :no:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 17, 2014, 07:53:47 PM

Had to can the constant logging though and just use DSLstats when PC is on, saving a spot of power after a recent shock  :no:

You noticed that to  ;) I take it your using a Desktop with a beefy CPU & GPU and so on, HG612_stats works fine for me when PC is off & on you just fill in the missing blanks inside your head and the Graphing looks fine  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jmutton on January 18, 2014, 02:27:08 PM
Does anyone know how I can get ping'ing working from the telnet on the hg612?

Code: [Select]
# ping bbc.co.uk
ping: bad address 'bbc.co.uk'
#
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on January 18, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
Does anyone know how I can get ping'ing working from the telnet on the hg612?

If you are using the HG612 as the modem bridge on a FTTC circuit and have accessed the modem itself via telnet through the LAN2 port, the short answer is "you can not do that".

Think of it this way. In simplest terms the HG612 has three ports, one RJ11 (to the telephone line pair) and two RJ45. Of the latter two, the LAN1 port is bridged to the RJ11 port and the LAN2 port just allows access to "innards" of the HG612.   
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jmutton on January 18, 2014, 03:50:56 PM
Thanks for the reply, nicely explained!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: adslmax on January 20, 2014, 02:31:52 AM
I got BT Openreach EchoLife HG612 rev B3 with software version: V100R001C01B028SP10 with firmware version: A2pv6C035m.d22g (unlocked firmware)

I had set to ADSL2+ and cannot access internet with BT Openreach modem Lan 1 & Lan 2 direct to my pc ethernet port. The only Access I can get to website is http://192.168.1.1 via openreach login site on lan 2 only but cannot access google, facebook, you tubes, BBC, netflix etc. Why is this?

How to get internet to work?

I haven't got FTTC at present, only ADSL2+.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on January 20, 2014, 06:59:02 AM
The easiest way is to configure it as a full modem/router. See http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/Huawei_HG612
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: adslmax on January 20, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Many thanks roseway. When FTTC come, do I need to reset to factory default setting and don't need isp username/password just leave everything as a default, and plug ethernet to Lan1 of BT Openreach to Netgear router (WAN port) is that right?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on January 20, 2014, 01:00:10 PM
I've no experience of FTTC, but I believe you're right.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on January 26, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
@Howlingwolf  or anyone able to answer. A few questions regarding the possibility of including the 038 blob into the HG622 firmware.  Might this be possible? You raised a question as to whether blobs could simply be swapped earlier in this post.  Asbo also left a slightly different tool kit for the HG622 but I have not checked on the detail of the differences.

  https://docs.google.com/folderview?pli=1&id=0B6wW18mYskvBMVA5TVduNHlqNlU

 I tried to do it using the latest "firmware-mod-kit" and the relevant 021 jazztel firmware but the result damages the boot loader and bricks the HG622 - I have put the boot loader back with JTAG and would not have tried without being ready with that option of recovery.

 I have not been able to use Asbo toolkit as my linux is proving too close to zero and rebuilding all parts of the tool kit for 32 bit has beaten me for the moment. 

 I doubt whether you would feel inclined to have a go with the HG622? but if it is not much trouble please could you make available your built 32 bit toolkit? and/or build file if you automated that build?

     
       
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on January 29, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
  Further the above post I doubt that the 038 blob can be added to HG622. 

   On a Hg622 I have been trying blob swapping between 030, 033-normal Hg622 version, 035 and 038. I followed Asbokid's guide to this.

    The HG622 does not support TFTP to move things in and out but if a usb stick is inserted it is mounted and facilitates very easy transfers.  I can swap between 030, 033 and 035 and they all work fine in the HG622.  However with 038 I get "segmentation fault" on starting it.  I assume 038 has structural differences that the others lack.   

   In my linux ignorance I think a segmentation fault is not an easy thing to fix up!! any contrary advice would be welcome.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Balb0wa on January 29, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
could have sworn i went over to fast path this morning, then a  little later my ping was higher , hmmm

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg547.imageshack.us%2Fimg547%2F4987%2Fgc3v.png&hash=09a3a077c75355a67763123f4985cea7e520e364)
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg856.imageshack.us%2Fimg856%2F3755%2Fafun.jpg&hash=b04e02f257c425baf9475f74b8502c4ce7a78a48)

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.imageshack.us%2Fimg21%2F5544%2Fgf1z.jpg&hash=46b8781da1af969a1a1d49cd59b1fb885bd32f5f)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on January 30, 2014, 06:41:53 PM

   On a Hg622 I have been trying dymaic blob swapping between 030, 033-normal Hg622 version, 035 and 038. I followed Asbokid's guide to this.

    The HG622 does not support TFTP to move things in and out but if a usb stick is inserted it is mounted and facilitates very easy transfers.  I can swap between 030, 033 and 035 and they all work fine in the HG622.  However with 038 I get "segmentation fault" on starting it.  I assume 038 has structural differences that the others lack.   


   Further to these tests I can get the same segfault on running xdslcmd by dynamically swapping the xdslcmd file in /bin on an HG622 into a HG612 with the 038 BLOB.  Conversely if I dynamically swap the 038 version of xdslcmd  to an HG622, xdslcmd then requests a lib file not on the Hg622. Dynamically swapping in that file in /lib seems to get the new xdslcmd fully working on the HG622, the new xdslcmd has the maxrate options in it but I have not tested those specific options on the usual 033 blob.  Unfortunately when I try to also dynamically swap the BLOB which is in /etc it runs out of memory!!!  By then I would have full copies of /bin/ /lib and /etc in /tmp so that is not really surprising. 

   Linux is quite a mystery to me and I wonder if there any way to mount just part of the directories, ideally just the specific files in question over each other.  Or if not a logical way to achieve a swap of the new file in the rw file system with just the relevant file in the read only file system.  Please can anyone offer advice? 

If it is not possible dynamically it might work if the  firmware image was rebuilt with these changes in the filesystem.  However as noted above my tries at rebuilds bricks the device at the moment and needs a JTAG recovery!!


  edit:  In fact if the samba files in /bin are deleted there is room for a copy of /etc as well.  However it does not help. I guess the segfault with 038 may be linked to kernel having been rebuilt in the latest 038 firmware.  i.e a swap of the BLOB to previous firmware versions may simply not work.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 30, 2014, 08:35:36 PM
could have sworn i went over to fast path this morning, then a  little later my ping was higher , hmmm


Sorry your still Interleaved but your DS Interleaving depth of 283 is good which should give you lower pings but the SES errors look to high for a 9 day connection to me.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Balb0wa on January 30, 2014, 08:39:15 PM
could have sworn i went over to fast path this morning, then a  little later my ping was higher , hmmm


Sorry your still Interleaved but your DS Interleaving depth of 283 is good which should give you lower pings but the SES errors look to high for a 9 day connection to me.

It was odd though, i know it said 283, but my pings were a lot lower,only time they have been that low 16-17ms is after ive had a profle reset,they are back at 23-24 now.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on January 30, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
could have sworn i went over to fast path this morning, then a  little later my ping was higher , hmmm


Sorry your still Interleaved but your DS Interleaving depth of 283 is good which should give you lower pings but the SES errors look to high for a 9 day connection to me.

It was odd though, i know it said 283, but my pings were a lot lower,only time they have been that low 16-17ms is after ive had a profle reset,they are back at 23-24 now.

its been a long time since i have seen sub 25ms on my line, with my current interleaving depth of 609 all I can get is 35-38ms so your doing well.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Balb0wa on January 30, 2014, 09:03:05 PM
could have sworn i went over to fast path this morning, then a  little later my ping was higher , hmmm


Sorry your still Interleaved but your DS Interleaving depth of 283 is good which should give you lower pings but the SES errors look to high for a 9 day connection to me.

It was odd though, i know it said 283, but my pings were a lot lower,only time they have been that low 16-17ms is after ive had a profle reset,they are back at 23-24 now.

its been a long time since i have seen sub 25ms on my line, with my current interleaving depth of 609 all I can get is 35-38ms so your doing well.

If i had that bad ping, id go out and dig up the cable/copper/alli/straw  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bibacet on February 19, 2014, 05:05:57 PM
Hi all,

Which firmware should I use on my HG612?

My line is 750-800m long.

Thanks.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on February 19, 2014, 06:20:02 PM
Well me being on a longer line like yourself Wolfys firmware bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui seems to give a higher sync but with more errors in the stats but yet the DLM seems more resilient to those higher errors on this firmware, and this is only my opinion  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on February 20, 2014, 07:19:59 AM
I have also seen a similar small improvement with the updated firmware on my 1000m to 1100m connection.

I am currently using BT's remotely updated firmware, but I did use Wofly's GUI version for quite a while & will no doubt use it again in due course.

I have chosen NOT to block any further updates as the last one did seem to improve stability & speed on my longish connection.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bibacet on February 23, 2014, 07:25:43 PM
After flashing bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked, I am no longer able to access the webui or ping the hg612. Has the IP changed from 192.168.1.1?

My machines IP is 192.168.1.100 and connected to LAN 2.

What gives?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on February 23, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
No it shouldn't have changed and that is the correct IP address, try resetting and flashing again. I think it needs the reset button pressed for longer than 10 seconds for a full reset.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on February 23, 2014, 10:03:23 PM
After flashing bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked, I am no longer able to access the webui or ping the hg612. Has the IP changed from 192.168.1.1?

My machines IP is 192.168.1.100 and connected to LAN 2.

What gives?

are you sure you downloaded the right one with the GUI activated as I made that mistake to, make sure the file reads as _unlockedgui if you want to use the GUI (192.168.1.1)

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bibacet on February 23, 2014, 10:05:39 PM
are you sure you downloaded the right one with the GUI activated as I made that mistake to, make sure the file reads as _unlockedgui if you want to use the GUI (192.168.1.1)

Yeah. I've tried all three. Telnet is unresponsive and the device doesn't respond to ping after the firmware update has been applied. I've given it plenty of time to reboot.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on February 23, 2014, 10:24:25 PM
are you sure you downloaded the right one with the GUI activated as I made that mistake to, make sure the file reads as _unlockedgui if you want to use the GUI (192.168.1.1)

Yeah. I've tried all three. Telnet is unresponsive and the device doesn't respond to ping after the firmware update has been applied. I've given it plenty of time to reboot.

OK just follow the instruction in this link  http://huaweihg612hacking.wordpress.com/ (http://huaweihg612hacking.wordpress.com/)
and click on right hand side "Instructions for unlocking the Huawei HG612" keep this PDF file open and run though the process again.

and as a note I don't have to configure the ethernet port to 192.168.1.100 I can keep both ethernet cables from router to HG612 ports 1 and 2 plugged in during a firmware flash.

EDIT: remember to have the ethernet cable connected from router to port 1 on Hg612 for Internet and have a second ethernet cable connected from router to port 2 on HG612 to access the GUI and Telnet all at once.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on February 24, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
grab the one that has btagent removed.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on February 24, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
grab the one that has btagent removed.

Why do you recommend that one?
Wouldn't it be likely to block any further improved firmware updates?

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on February 25, 2014, 12:46:10 AM
grab the one that has btagent removed.

Why do you recommend that one?
Wouldn't it be likely to block any further improved firmware updates?



thats the exact reason, if you want to be sure the gui etc. will work, then block future updates.

historically the new firmware's have always been unlocked and provided for manual downloads anyway, and its not hard to readd btagent should you change your mind.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sheddyian on February 27, 2014, 11:45:41 PM
Having tried both Asbo and Wolfy's firmware on my new HG612, which is connected to an ADSL2+ line (not fibre!) I thought I'd share a few observations.

But first - does anyone use upnp on the HG612?  I can't get it to work on the Wolfy firmware.  I've ticked the option, but the PCs don't notice it when it boots up, and programs that try t use it to open ports are unable to.

Aside from that :

I seem to have fewer bitswaps in Wolfy's firmware compared to Asbo's.  Noticed immediately after reflashing - was previously hopping up and down constantly 4 - 8 bitswaps per minute, no respite.  After reflash with Wolfy's version, only the occasional bitswap.  Could have been coinsidence of course.

S/N margin reported differently - my downstream was a steady 6.1 for both firmwares, but the upstream changed significantly and repeatably.  Asbo's gave me 10.2 - 10.8, Wolfy's gave me 14.2 - 14.7 (under usual conditions my margins don't fluctuate much).

The QLN plot is interestingly different between the two firmwares.
The fall and rise between downstream and upstream is much more curved on Asbo's, on Wolfy's it's a very sudden climb up in the first few downstream tones.  This suggests to me more efficient bitloading on Wolfy's firmware?

The QLN plot also jumps upwards on the graph with Wolfy's firmware.  With Asbo's, the plot doesn't reach -110dB at all, with Wolfy's most of the tones up to about 180 are around -110dB.  (Can anyone say which is better though?  ??? )

Ian
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 07, 2014, 09:26:36 PM
I have upgraded to the experimental Wolfy's firmware in advance of my ISP moving me from Digital Region to BT.

I have included a before/after stats shot below:

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcsdprojects.co.uk%2FHG612%2F2014-03-07_btagent.png&hash=f45b2a9d74583a9ea0286a329634473a43d06666)

Its interesting that they seem to have added aggregate bandwidth stats for upload/download, that I can SEE my downstream attentuation now and where did that extra upload channel come from?  Could it be BT updated this firmware to enable profile 30A?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on March 07, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
Line & Signal Attenuation are now reported separately rather than as identical with the original firmware.

It's not too noticeable with your super-duper connection, but look at D1 Signal attenuation for my connection:-


bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10unlocked002

  VDSL Band Status         U0     U1       U2      U3     D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):    8.0    52.6     N/A     N/A    21.6    63.0    0.1   
Signal Attenuation(dB):    8.0    52.6     N/A     N/A    21.6    63.0     N/A



bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui

      VDSL Band Status     U0     U1      U2      U3      U4      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):    8.0    52.6     N/A     N/A     N/A    21.5    64.6     N/A   
Signal Attenuation(dB):    8.0    52.1     N/A     N/A     N/A    30.1    64.3     N/A



As my connection is clobbered by crosstalk, the new firmware seems to report Signal Attenuation more realistically.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: DeadMan on March 17, 2014, 02:34:49 PM
I idiotically reset my HG612 and lost access. I need the latest blob to flash please. I can't find the link anywhere.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Ronski on March 17, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Link is in the first page of this thread, about half way down.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 17, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
In case anyone is wondering, the experimental build appears to be rock stable for me.  The only "glitch" I have found with it is that its not reporting the DSL uptime on the web interface.  :P
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bhawkes on March 18, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
trying to put new firmware (bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent) on my previously hacked HG612 (hacked to asbokids orig ver10).

steps taken, as per asbokids orig instructions:-

LAN2 to PC (TCP/IP set to 192.168.1.100) - reset modem (held for 20secs) - power on - browser 192.168.1.1 - select file (as above) - update software - connecting to 192.168.1.1/upload.cgi - this process will take about 2 mins - then TIMES OUT! the server at 192.168.1.1 is taking too long to respond.

Any ideas what I'm dong wrong.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sheddyian on March 18, 2014, 05:49:54 PM
trying to put new firmware (bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent) on my previously hacked HG612 (hacked to asbokids orig ver10).

steps taken, as per asbokids orig instructions:-

LAN2 to PC (TCP/IP set to 192.168.1.100) - reset modem (held for 20secs) - power on - browser 192.168.1.1 - select file (as above) - update software - connecting to 192.168.1.1/upload.cgi - this process will take about 2 mins - then TIMES OUT! the server at 192.168.1.1 is taking too long to respond.

Any ideas what I'm dong wrong.

Unless I'm missing something, I think that's normal.  Ignore the browser timeout, let the modem finish flashing the firmware and reboot, (basically, just wait a few minutes) then try refreshing the browser page that timed out, and you ought to be asked to log in again, now running the new firmware (hopefully  ;D )

20 seconds seems a long time to hold the button, but I can't see that being the problem here as you're being asked for a firmware file so you're getting that far ok.  For me, I press and hold the reset button, plug the power in, continue holding for 5 seconds, then release.

Ian


Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bhawkes on March 18, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Ian,

No, doesn't work. Times out on 192.168.1.1/upload.html and wont refresh - problem loading page. I don't think the update is taking place -what should happen to the modem during the update in terms of lights flashing etc. - there is some activity on LAN2 green light and yellow light flashing but otherwise nothing and it certainly does not reboot.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 18, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
Last time I updated mine I had exactly the same thing.

I clicked upload and nothing seemed to happen, the browser just timed out.  I even reloaded the page (it did let me) and tried uploading the firmware file again, same problem.  However a few minutes later the modem rebooted and was on the updated firmware.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bhawkes on March 18, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Is my problem that my OR is one of the earlier models? Is this flash compatible?

Original firmware version: V100R001C01B028SP06

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 18, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
AFAIK there is model A and model B, the only real difference being that model A overheated.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: bhawkes on March 19, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
Success!  Finally - kept reset button pressed for 10 secs for a hard reset (read this elsewhere) then loaded page twice as per Alex's advice and, hey presto, we have the upgrade installed ready for a try out.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: boe323 on March 19, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
I was wondering if its possible to rename crc and fecs on the hg612 as they are reversed ...so if its possible to just rename them ie ...change crc to fec etc ...would be ace.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on May 12, 2014, 04:39:56 PM
Morning all,
Have just ordered a new HG612 from that well known auction site and have been reading this thread (multiple times) with interest. On receipt of said HG612 it is my intention to unlock it. Having downloaded all the necessary bits, I am a little stuck as to how I can "Configure the ethernet NIC of your PC with IP address 192.168.1.100."
Any help greatly appreciated.... :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on May 12, 2014, 05:10:26 PM
Windows 7 system here.

Do the attached screenshots help?

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on May 13, 2014, 02:17:06 AM
Thank you kindly Bald Eagle...... :)

All I need now is my new HG612......  :) :) :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on May 14, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Hi

Apologies if this is the wrong place to be asking this - have just unlocked an HG612 with the no-gui firmware.

I have a Billion 7800n fairly extensively configured for devices on 192.168.0.x - so how can I change the LAN2 IP of the HG612 to a 192.168.0.x address via telnet?

Alternatively, how should I configure the Billion 7800n to let me reach the default LAN2 IP of 192.168.1.1 from devices in my 192.168.0.x network?

Many thanks

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on May 14, 2014, 07:43:52 PM

so how can I change the LAN2 IP of the HG612 to a 192.168.0.x address via telnet?


I would suggest that you start to use a GUI re-enabled version of the firmware as it's then really easy to adjust the HG612's LAN IP address.




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Alternatively, how should I configure the Billion 7800n to let me reach the default LAN2 IP of 192.168.1.1 from devices in my 192.168.0.x network?


Sorry. I have no idea where the relevant setting would be for that router, but I imagine you would then also have to change any fixed IP addresses for any of your connected devices.

Changing the HG612's IP address seems (to me) to be the easier route.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on May 14, 2014, 08:43:01 PM
OK thanks Bald Eagle - I am happy to use a GUI-enabled build to reconfig the LAN, but was under the impression (based on its location) that the GUI version is still 'experimental'. So, for the record, which is considered the recommended working firmware? I installed Howlingwolf's 30SP06_unlocked, but assume you're suggesting 30SP06_unlockedgui?

Also, I'd still be interested to hear if anyone is aware of a telnet command for reconfiguring the LAN2 IP. I have no real need for the GUI - I will be using my own shell scripts to grab the stats I'm interested in via xdslcmd. All I want to end up with is a modem which I can telnet to on the 192.168.0.x LAN and which doesn't need reflashing until there's a fantastic new firmware available.

Info (and patience) much appreciated...
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on May 14, 2014, 09:08:03 PM
OK thanks Bald Eagle - I am happy to use a GUI-enabled build to reconfig the LAN, but was under the impression (based on its location) that the GUI version is still 'experimental'. So, for the record, which is considered the recommended working firmware? I installed Howlingwolf's 30SP06_unlocked, but assume you're suggesting 30SP06_unlockedgui?


Yep, that's the one I would recommend & that quite a few users have been using since it was created without any issue whatsoever.

It may be stored in the Experimental area, but I can't see that it needs any amendments at all after this amount of time.


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Also, I'd still be interested to hear if anyone is aware of a telnet command for reconfiguring the LAN2 IP. I have no real need for the GUI - I will be using my own shell scripts to grab the stats I'm interested in via xdslcmd. All I want to end up with is a modem which I can telnet to on the 192.168.0.x LAN and which doesn't need reflashing until there's a fantastic new firmware available.



Once in BusyBox, you could try typing this command:-

ifconfig --help



# ifconfig --help
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2013-06-01 18:30:08 CST) multi-call binary

Usage: ifconfig [-a] interface [address]

Configure a network interface

Options:
        [[-]broadcast [ADDRESS]] [[-]pointopoint [ADDRESS]]
        [netmask ADDRESS] [dstaddr ADDRESS]
        [outfill NN] [keepalive NN]
        [hw ether ADDRESS] [metric NN] [mtu NN]
        [[-]trailers] [[-]arp] [[-]allmulti]
        [multicast] [[-]promisc] [txqueuelen NN] [[-]dynamic]
        [mem_start NN] [io_addr NN] [irq NN]
        [up|down] ...



You can apparently change ip address using ifconfig command itself. To set IP address 192.168.1.20, enter command:
 # ifconfig br0 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
 # ifconfig br0



typing ifconfig on its own will give you all the relevant current settings details:-

# ifconfig
br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 5C:7D:5E:EE:CC:63
          inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:506844 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:158253 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:30130876 (28.7 MiB)  TX bytes:53776056 (51.2 MiB)

& so on.......................



I haven't tested it out myself so I don't know if it actually works or not.
However, from what I have read, I believe it doesn't survive a resync, so would have to be reset at each resync (using the default IP address to initially connect via Telnet).

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on May 14, 2014, 09:55:08 PM

what I have read, I believe it doesn't survive a resync, so would have to be reset at each resync (using the default IP address to initially connect via Telnet).


Great info thanks. Presumably that means that changing the IP via the GUI wouldn't be permanent either?

Back to the drawing board....
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on May 14, 2014, 10:05:18 PM

what I have read, I believe it doesn't survive a resync, so would have to be reset at each resync (using the default IP address to initially connect via Telnet).


Great info thanks. Presumably that means that changing the IP via the GUI wouldn't be permanent either?

Back to the drawing board....


Changing the IP Address via the GUI is semi-permanent.


It survives a modem resync & it also survives a modem reboot/power off/on etc..


It doesn't seem to survive a full reset via holding down the rest button on the back of the HG612 though.
A full reset seems to cause it to revert to 192.168.1.1, but it isn't often that we ever need to carry out a full reset.

The only time I have ever pressed the reset button in the 3 years I have had FTTC has been when flashing a modem to an unlocked firmware version.


EDIT:

If you do happen to have a dabble with the ifconfig command, please let us know how it goes.


Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on May 14, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
Changing the IP Address via the GUI is semi-permanent.
It survives a modem resync & it also survives a modem reboot/power off/on etc..

It doesn't seem to survive a full reset via holding down the rest button on the back of the HG612 though.
A full reset seems to cause it to revert to 192.168.1.1, but it isn't often that we ever need to carry out a full reset.

A "full reset" (a.k.a. a long reset (ten seconds, minimum)), when a Huawei Home Gateway is in a powered-up state, performs a reset back to the compiled-in defaults. (Sometimes referred to as a "factory reset".)

(Almost every user-configurable device will have such functionality -- it is just a question of knowing how to invoke it -- otherwise the nation would be littered with devices that have been "over-fiddled" into an unusable state by the average know-it-all numpty!)  ;D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on May 15, 2014, 12:05:53 AM
Code: [Select]

# ifconfig br0 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 up


worked perfectly to move the LAN2 onto my router subnet in busybox, but it didn't survive a reboot.

I'll have another go tomorrow, and then try the gui firmware...
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on May 15, 2014, 02:06:17 AM
The problem is the HG612 like most routers is running from a RAM disk.  You would have to find a way to edit the NVRAM to make any permanent changes and its not worth trying to figure out when the Web UI does that for you.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: tommy45 on May 15, 2014, 07:53:28 PM
I too have just got a HG612 3B I don't have a clue as to which F/W is installed ,or if it matters or not, But just wanted to seek confirmation on the way to do things and if i made the right choice of F/W or not, before i flash  the modem

I have downloaded what i think to be the most suitable unlocked f/w version bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent

Which presumably i just need to unzip  and upload it to the modem following the modem unlocking guide   
I would like to be able to access gui, as well as being able to monitor  the stats over time  via my router as well  as just  the occasional snapshots , unless the monitoring s/w doesn't work in that way, ?

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on May 15, 2014, 08:11:28 PM

I have downloaded what i think to be the most suitable unlocked f/w version bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent


Because the updated firmware seems to have improved matters for my longish length connection, I elected to NOT block any future updates.
Therefore I use this version:-

bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui


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Which presumably i just need to unzip  and upload it to the modem following the modem unlocking guide


Yep. It's as easy as you describe.


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I would like to be able to access gui, as well as being able to monitor  the stats over time  via my router as well  as just  the occasional snapshots , unless the monitoring s/w doesn't work in that way, ?


If your connection is experiencing 'problems' I would recommend that you keep the logging running 24/7, at least for a few days.

Otherwise, an occasional 'snapshot' would be fine.

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: tommy45 on May 15, 2014, 08:34:11 PM
Thanks for that BE 1   I don't think there is a lot going on with the connection, as such, as DLM has only clobbered me 3 times  in the past 12mths, just that the last 2 have been close together, some 14 days apart in fact,

Fast path full 80/20 sync most of the time going by the Bras IP profile of 77.44 , the last DLM intervention  dropped my ds sync to 73.8mbps (IP profile of 71.58)  and added the obligatory 7-8ms interleave , 14 days later back to fast path /full 80/20 sync,
Weirdly though  the bras ip profile appeared to get stuck, at 73.8 although i had the full sync rate,  took some 12hrs or more before i was able to see the updated IP profile, using the PT ,

IMO DLM is acting when it just doesn't need to, any connection that's on fast path will generate some errors, i have not noticed any adverse effects that you would associate with a connection that has a high error rate , and I've been there , whilst on ADSL2+  fortunately no DLM to worry about, so line remained on fast path regardless
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on May 16, 2014, 03:04:35 AM
That does not surprise me, DLM has always seemed to be a bit aggressive.

When I was on ADSL with PlusNet the DLM used to clobber me to around 3.5Mbit, when I moved to Be I could squeeze out 5.5Mbit with only a few times per year where something seemed to happen to cause instability.  On Origin I get 100/33 yet I would not be surprised if once migrated over to the BT cabinet (currently on Digital Region) I do not end up with a constant 80/20 thanks to DLM.

I'm just hoping they do a promotion on FTTP at some point so I can get away from using copper wiring at all with its related quirks.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: tommy45 on May 16, 2014, 03:18:24 AM
Well the copper cables were installed with only telephony use in mind, running  ASDL over the copper was optimistic, and now VDSL, little wonder crosstalk is a big problem, not that it's anything new though,
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on May 31, 2014, 11:51:44 AM
Have followed the instructions on this thread and I'm well pleased. Many thanks to the more informed on here.......

Am I correct in believing that the enclosed bitloading graph is exactly as it should be ?

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on May 31, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
You've only shown a part of the tone range, but what's there looks just about perfect.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on May 31, 2014, 12:57:34 PM
Thankyou kindly Roseway.......I'm still learning....... :thumbs:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on May 31, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
I'll try again........

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on May 31, 2014, 07:47:01 PM
Yes, that is looking good.  :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: adslmax on June 12, 2014, 01:49:54 AM
why is HG612 always showed 79887K and get BT IP of 77.42Mb? If it was 79999K then the BT IP would get 77.44Mb?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 12, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
why is HG612 always showed 79887K and get BT IP of 77.42Mb? If it was 79999K then the BT IP would get 77.44Mb?

Don't read too much into it.  There are many different ways your line speed can be reported by the modem and none of them tell the story of your actual attainable speed.

When I upgraded my HG612 from the original hacked firmware I lost 16 bits off my sync speed, but real world performance got much better.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on June 25, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Have been on BT FTTC for a couple of months now, and monitoring my HG612 for the last 5 weeks or so. Attached is my SNR - upstream (green) seems to be gradually falling - it started at 15dB and is now at 12.6dB - there have been quite a few reboots of the modem, but the graph looks to have a definite trend. Any thoughts?

Thanks.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 25, 2014, 08:19:32 PM
Its perfectly normal for the SNR to vary by 3-6dB, especially as the temperature changes.  As long as its above 6dB its unlikely to cause any problems.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: sidvandegraaf on June 25, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Its perfectly normal for the SNR to vary by 3-6dB, especially as the temperature changes.  As long as its above 6dB its unlikely to cause any problems.

D'oh! Hadn't even thought of the warm weather contributing! Was on a long ADSL line before the fibre arrived, and weather had a big effect on that so it should have occurred to me.

Thanks.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 25, 2014, 08:40:21 PM
It can be so unpredictable, I got tripped up with a customer when I worked at PlusNet because I said the connection is WORSE in winter due to the temperature. (oops)  Basic physics goes out of your head when taking call after call.  :blush:

What I meant of course is that on an imperfect line winter can make things even worse if water gets into the joints on the line.  Of course at that point the customer thought I was making excuses.  Its probably for the best I didn't stay long, lol.

Keeping this on topic, I have found that on my short line the difference between summer/winter is about 10Mbit downstream and a couple of Megabits upstream.  On BT that is moot though as my sync is well above what they currently offer summer or winter.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on June 25, 2014, 08:42:13 PM
Its perfectly normal for the SNR to vary by 3-6dB, especially as the temperature changes.  As long as its above 6dB its unlikely to cause any problems.

It depends if your on ADSL2 and your ISP has a set the target SNRM to 3dB then it's fine.
But if your on VDSL2 then theres is only one target SNRM and thats 6dB, I am on VDSL2 if my SNRM go's below 4.5dB i'll get a dissconection and re-sync at a much lower DS & US rate untill the line has become stable again.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 25, 2014, 08:44:35 PM
Incidentally, does anyone have the fixes for the graph scripts for the new firmware?  My graphs have been broken since the upgrade and I can't get my head around fixing it.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on June 25, 2014, 08:53:33 PM
I would start by looking at this thread http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13974.0 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13974.0)

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 25, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Nope, I'm looking for the bash scripts and still coming up blind looking in that forum.  I'm guessing everyone uses Windows so they have dropped off into the ether somewhere.

Thanks for trying though.  I have PMed a certain cat about it anyway but I have a feeling I might have to figure out the changes myself, ugh.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on June 25, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
Nope, I'm looking for the bash scripts and still coming up blind looking in that forum.  I'm guessing everyone uses Windows so they have dropped off into the ether somewhere.

Thanks for trying though.  I have PMed a certain cat about it anyway but I have a feeling I might have to figure out the changes myself, ugh.

Well DSLstats has linux installs http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14104.0 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14104.0)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 25, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Darn, that is seriously overkill for my needs. :(
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on July 08, 2014, 03:11:19 PM
    I am now running the unlockedgui version with the bt agent and noticed that the ptm.1.301 TR069 agent is not there. It was also missing in the no-btagent version.  ???  Is this due to something that I have done or is it built into the 038 unlockedgui version.   I have done a resest and even gone back to the original 030 firmware which has it and confirmed that just upgrading to the unlockedgui version seems to get rid of it.  I assume it is not needed for the current update of the past week or so.

 Did anyone notice whether they have/had the TR069 or not in the unlockedgui version, before they have/had the latest update in last week or so which seems to re locking some people out of the gui?

  Sorry for the cross post with http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14166.msg265945#msg265945
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: stonetrap on July 14, 2014, 03:32:46 PM
Firstly apologies if this is thread hijacking but I'm really rather stumped here.
Purchased a HG612 from that popular auction site, still locked. The stock firmware is B028SP06 and I just can't seem to get it unlocked and functioning with a gui.
I've successfully configured my ethernet to the static IP 192.168.1.100
Sucessfully loaded the install firmware page from the modem and tried both
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui
The modem seems to flash the firmware fine, I received a page asking to wait a couple of minute.

Once the modem reboots I get nothing. I can't access 192.168.1.1 via browser or telnet. I get a stable power LED and the L2 led flashes with very little activity. Any ping to 192.168.1.1 is dropped on any port.
I feel as if I've missed something glaringly obvious but after leaving this for a couple of weeks and returning to it today I still can't see what I'm missing.
I've attempted hard resets (10 sec + ) and tried installing firmware again countless times.

I'll be using this modem with my Asus AC68U and EE (OrangeHome) Fibre.
I've been performing the flashing with it disconnected from the DSL port and the AC68U.

I'm happy to try whatever, I don't mind using TTYL if that will help but at the moment I'm hoping one of you kind souls will see what I've missed.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Bald_Eagle1 on July 14, 2014, 05:00:07 PM
Maybe let the modem boot up & while it's still switched on, do the factory reset via the button on the rear.

That should set it to all default configuration (which includes the IP address of 192.168.1.1 & 'admin' for user & password.

Leave it a couple of minutes then power it off.

Then try flashing it as per the instructions.

That reset button can sometimes be hard to hold down for 10 seconds+



The reboot process CAN kid you though.

There is a fairly quick indication that the modem is rebooting, but wait a bit longer for another full reboot before trying to access it.


You do need to close & reopen your browser before trying to access the modem again after it has fully rebooted (I use IE 9 when flashing HG612 modems, but I imagine any browser should suffice).


Let us know how you get on.


Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shirts on July 19, 2014, 09:07:00 PM
Morning all,
I unlocked my HG612 with V100R001C01B030SP06 with no bt agent. It works well, however, I notice it doesn't report the DSL up time. Any thoughts ?

Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dk125uk on July 22, 2014, 12:27:07 AM
has anyone found after flashing with bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
that using dslstats to tweak to snr applies and displays as applied under wan tab, but when running speed tests, torrent, or general downloading tests, the speed is the same as before tweak applied?

also, can someone tell me if this makes sense.....
had ee broadband and used td-w8970 for adsl2+, I got average sync of 17000 with 27.3db on fastpath. this is after bt corrected the wiring in the master socket and added a vdsl plate. then switched to talktalk, and average sync is 14000 at 30.1db on interleaved path. got profile changed to fastpath, and then averaged 13000 at 30.1? I gained speed with my last isp when profile changed to fastpath and it was stable. since being with talktalk, line is unstable at speeds I got before.
ive tried many different modems, and got lucky with getting a hg612 for a fiver. didn't think I could use it, but flashed the firmware and tweaked the snr and get my speed back with an snr at .1
but its roughly lasting 24 hours between resyncs. and I have a 2 megabit margin between attainable rate and line rate. where before I had virtually no difference with attainable and line rate with ee broadband. is this llu issue? or just a talktalk issue? im starting to think cheap isp's reduce speed on propose.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: AdriHD on July 25, 2014, 06:10:51 PM
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Did anyone notice whether they have/had the TR069 or not in the unlockedgui version, before they have/had the latest update in last week or so which seems to re locking some people out of the gui?

You do realise that you don't HAVE to have the TRO connection at all? I'm with TalkTalk so it might be different from MUX'd users.

All I did was delete the PTMx:301 (whatever x was at the stage) and that was that. Just be back up your config before trying that :D

Since dropping the TRO connection, my ping latency has shot UP from 33ms to 19ms :-/ Maybe I was just lucky with the route I got when I restarted the unit, but seems good to me.

Another disappointing thing is that bumping the 802.1p priority up to 7 didn't make any difference. Mind you, i'll be interesting to see if it does in the winter when everyone is indoors googling and surfing :D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: JustAnother on July 27, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
Does anyone know if the latest firmware is capable of vectoring? I've been out of the loop for a bout a year, and I remember this being mentioned in my last investigation (I have read all of this thread now) - apparently BT was going to turn it on at some point?

For reference this is another successful flash of experimental gui no-btagent on a HG612 - might be worth moving the binaries out of the experimental directory.

No improvement in my upstream yet unfortunately.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on July 27, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
As far as I am aware . . .
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: JustAnother on July 27, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Cheers, will look forward to that then
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on July 30, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
Sorry about the long absence. I've been rather busy. At the moment I'm up to my eyes in another project and I still have to migrate my BGW systems to BGW7.

What I will try to do this weekend is build an upgradeable firmware image and reflash my modem so I can at least capture the thing. Other than that I can't say when I'll be able to work on it.

I also need to rebuild the BTAgent image which someone recently mentioned doesn't have a ptm1.301 channel for it to communicate over.

One of the perils of copying and modifying patching scripts. I must have missed one of the changes and applied the wrong patch file to the config. Not something which would show up during 'normal' testing or operation.  :doh:


BTW: I was somewhat perplexed to discover that the US Government considers me to be a dangerous extremist. The reason? Since the demise of The H, I've been reading Linux Journal's kernel development articles...  :hmm:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: roseway on July 30, 2014, 11:03:12 PM
Quote
I've been reading Linux Journal's kernel development articles

Ooh, definitely a dangerous extremist then. :silly:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: les-70 on July 31, 2014, 09:59:07 AM
 @Howlingwolf -- looking forwards to you finding time.   I have not been able to get an update with the modified firmware.  Quite a few with the modified firmware do however report getting an update.  I wonder whether they have not done a reset after the update and have thus retained the settings the original config file.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on July 31, 2014, 09:19:11 PM
Perhaps there is someone, whose HG612 has received the latest firmware update and has the requisite header pins soldered to the PCB, who could help by making a copy of the firmware image available?  :-\

b*cat eyesight is not that good and his paws are a bit wobbly for him to attempt to solder the header pins to the PCB of the only HG612 that he now possesses.  :(
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on July 31, 2014, 10:45:34 PM
I took a break from my other projects today and rebuilt the firmwares as mentioned in my other post. My 'capture' modem (the one with the header pins) is now set up and waiting to be updated. Once that happens I'll get to work on it.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: JustAnother on July 31, 2014, 10:48:31 PM
 :o
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on July 31, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
I still have the lastest updated Software version V100R001C01B030SP08 with Firmware version A2pv6C038m.d24j and love soldering that's all I can offer at this stage as my sole HG612 equipment is under the BT terms & conditions which I may add has been broken by me in many occasions  :D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on August 01, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
I still have the lastest updated Software version V100R001C01B030SP08 with Firmware version A2pv6C038m.d24j and love soldering that's all I can offer at this stage as my sole HG612 equipment is under the BT terms & conditions which I may add has been broken by me in many occasions  :D

I picked up my spare off of a certain rather well known online bazaar. I think I paid just over £7 for it...  I had a quick look and they do have a few at a reasonable starting point and postage.

I was somewhat less pleased to see scum offering unlocked modems based on our work for up to £60 >:(

<more spooling mistaks  :'(>
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: NewtronStar on August 01, 2014, 05:45:14 PM

I picked up my spare off of a certainly rather well known online bazaar. I think I paid just over £7 for it...  I had a quick look and they do have a few at a reasonable starting point and postage.

I was somewhat less pleased to see scum offering unlocked modems based on our work for up to £60 >:(

ThankYou HW have placed my bid in bazaar, don't think i'll be purchasing the unlocked modem at that silly price :o and there is nothing more satisfying than unlocking it yourself.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Howlingwolf on August 01, 2014, 11:09:28 PM

I picked up my spare off of a certainly rather well known online bazaar. I think I paid just over £7 for it...  I had a quick look and they do have a few at a reasonable starting point and postage.

I was somewhat less pleased to see scum offering unlocked modems based on our work for up to £60 >:(

ThankYou HW have placed my bid in bazaar, don't think i'll be purchasing the unlocked modem at that silly price :o and there is nothing more satisfying than unlocking it yourself.

Yes indeed. Good luck!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: shamus on August 30, 2014, 01:34:22 PM
have not received an email or junk mail to validate enrolment to new program
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on August 30, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
Are Openreach still issuing the HG612 in the wild?  All I seem to hear are people getting the ECI these days.

The reason I ask is I am having a new fibre line activated soon so will be trying to scrounge another HG612 but highly suspect the engineer will turn up with only ECI.  If there is little chance of him having the HG612 I might just grab one off eBay early.

Its going to be pretty important I get another HG612 as I will be putting both lines on a Gigabit switch and then feeding them both back to my router over a single ethernet cable with VLANs to split them into the two distinct connections with PPP and load-balancing on my router.  At least that's the theory anyway.

Although, if one is on a VLAN and other is not - does that effectively act as if they are both on separate VLANs anyway?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: iMx on August 30, 2014, 04:30:44 PM
I do something very similar, 2 x VDSL modems in the front room trunked back over 1 CAT6 port (internal wiring) to the rack under the stairs.  I run each modem with 2 VLANs, WAN and management, using dot1q.

However, rather than load balancing I opted to bond both connections with an L2 VPN back to a box in the DC.  I run each WAN in a separate OpenBSD routing domain, so that there can be a discrete default route per routing domain, then an OpenVPN L2 tunnel in each routing domain back to a box in the DC - VPN bonding basically.  Each OpenVPN tun interface is then added to a round robin trunk interface in yet another routing domain - the trunk at the remote DC end is bridged with the external interface so I can pass a /29 from the DC to the router/firewall at home.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on August 30, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Holy crap that sounds complicated. :p

How did you get the management interface to work out of the same port?  Does this automatically happen if the modem is bridged to a VLAN rather than just the whole LAN port?  It seems quite limited what you are allowed to do from the GUI and I'm unable to test as currently on ADSL and it doesn't give you the same options when bridging ATM as it does on PTM.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: iMx on September 04, 2014, 09:17:02 AM
I use both ports on each device, the 2nd for the management.  Both modems go into a small 8 port switch, using 4 ports in total (2 x WAN and 2 x Management) 4 separate VLANs are set on the switch, then a trunk port sends all over 1 internal ethernet port back to the rack under the stairs.

As I'm on an ECI DLSAM I've since moved to using ECI modems now I found some free time, ECIs bring their own challenges, but am successfully running OpenWRT on the ECI modems.  Using ECI modems has seen me regain fastpath on one line (the other has a few more days until DLM should hopefully kick in) for the first time since it was installed, I was using HG612s on ECI DSLAM up until now.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on September 23, 2014, 05:27:43 AM
I think I have cracked this actually and in turn figured out you CAN get away with only using a single ethernet cable for WAN and management, at least on OpenWRT routers.

Basically I have two HG612 units, one with PTM bridged to VLAN2, the other with PTM bridged to VLAN3, NO PORT BINDING!

This allows the management to go out untagged on LAN1 and the WAN goes out tagged on LAN1.

I then have my router configured to do PPPoE on the eth1.2 and eth1.3 for each ISP (I only have one active right now so obviously not 100% certain it will work, but it should) and then eth1 is bridged to the LAN which I THINK should only pass untagged traffic to the LAN.  This allows the LAN to access the HG612 management interface while only using two cables.

I didn't actually NEED to do it that was as I am using a 5 port gigabit switch to send both modems down the routers single Gigabit WAN port, but I figured its about time I tried to see if it would work with just a single port on the HG612.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: iMx on September 27, 2014, 09:27:41 AM
I guess the only point is how it deals with multiple default routes for 2 lines in the 1 routing table, using virtual routing domains gets around this because each PPPoE table exists with its own discrete routing table.  I'm not familiar enough with OpenWRT with multi WAN, I'm assuming iptables is probably used for policy based routing to make routing decisions :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on September 27, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
That IS indeed the question, seeing as my Zen line isn't active yet I haven't had to deal with it.  Also, unfortunately, MultiWAN is not available for my build of OpenWRT so I'm going to have to either build it myself or figure out what it actually does.

I have had a Multi WAN configuration working on my Fedora machine but of course that only uses DHCP and so can be easily bypassed.  How I'm going to do it for PPPoE I'm really not sure as obviously it has to take into account what settings PPP has assigned and also deal with when the connection goes up/down.

Both connections are static IPs so I figure I can probably get away with setting them NOT to become the default route and just put scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d, /etc/ppp/ip-down.d that check the current state and adjust routing depending on which connections are up.

We should probably take this discussion to another thread.....
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Dusty on October 17, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Hi,

I'm looking for the firmware version: bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
I would be grateful if someone could reupload it somewhere.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Chrysalis on October 17, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
here

http://www.chrysalisnet.org/hg612/bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlockedgui-nobtagent
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Dusty on October 17, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
@Chrysalis: Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on October 19, 2014, 12:49:04 PM
Hi all,

First time poster, bit of a lurker :)

I've had Sky FTTC since April 2012 and their Pro product since it was launched in June 2012 - in the past I've unlocked the firmware on my HG612 to get the line stats out, but I was interested to see another site that mentions that I could increase my line rates...

Would upgrading to these later or other firmwares I've seen out there do this?

I mean, I get 60Mbit, but when I first had Pro turned on the line ran at 70Mbit and it runs stable at that, so I don't know why it decides to drop it to 60.

Would I be right in thinking I could tweak a modem to try and get some Mb's back? If it's not possible then I don't want to break a ball over it, 60/20 is still very good for what I use, but if I could eek some more out then let me know!

HG612 sits right next to the master socket with a 30cm RJ11 cable, there's nothing else I can do to improve things there. I recently experienced a storm which took out something in the cabinet - when it was all fixed I was back at 70 again for a short while, so I assume now it has dropped again then that's all I'll be able to get, but looking at previous figures: -

Sync 65341/20000
Max. Attainable of 77104/22251 SNR 6.3/7.1

Anyone shed any light on this or shall I just be happy? :D I suspect with the SNR of 6.3 that is my lot. I'll have to get some fresh stats.


Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on October 22, 2014, 02:10:37 AM
If your line is interleaved that could be taking up some of your speed.   Also it's possible that crosstalk as more people get out on the dslam will have reduced speeds since you first got connected.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on October 28, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
Am I able to influence whether my line is interleaved or not?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on October 28, 2014, 06:29:05 PM
Nope.  The only thing you can really do is try to make the best of your internal wiring and hope that's enough.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on October 29, 2014, 01:48:04 PM
Ah, well considering that I have a 30cm cable between my master socket (with no extensions) and a recent new faceplate thanks to an OR engineer then there is nothing else I can do.

Never mind!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: colly05 on October 29, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
Which is the latest version firmware for  the 612 mine was hacked but now there is no stats must of been the bt thing


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Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on October 29, 2014, 08:35:10 PM
Which is the latest version firmware for  the 612 mine was hacked but now there is no stats must of been the bt thing

Please see the first post to this thread (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14262.0). There you will find the link to the latest firmware image, which has been carefully unlocked by Wolfy.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: colly05 on October 29, 2014, 08:43:32 PM
Thanks burakkucat
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: apvm on April 02, 2015, 05:12:36 AM
If I remove 301 does it mean I have disabled BTagent?  thanks.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Dray on April 02, 2015, 07:41:14 AM
VLAN 301 is used for BT Wifi. To kill BTAgent you have to run the killall -KILL start btagent command
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jelv on April 18, 2015, 03:37:15 PM
I've successfully flashed installed B030SP08 with the web interface and now have the modem LAN2 connected to the router. Using the laptop which I used to do the unlocking (IP still set as 192.168.1.100) I can access the web interface using Firefox. On my main PC (IP 192.168.1.64) when I try to access it using Firefox I get a blank screen. Using Chrome on the same PC is fine.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on April 18, 2015, 04:49:41 PM
Here's a diagram (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612unlock.htm#hg612_linestats) that Kitz has drawn up to show how the modem and the router should be connected.

The HG612 is configured to use the IPv4 address 192.168.1.1 by default. Your router should have a separate IPv4 address in the same sub-net.

Once you have performed the unlocking process, there is no need for the system used to have a static IPv4 address of (say) 192.168.1.100 -- it can be reconfigured as it was prior to the unlocking task.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jelv on April 18, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
That's how I'm connected - it must all be fine because as I said, Chrome on the same PC displays the the web interface with no problems. It's something specific to Firefox.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on April 18, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
cache? 
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: jelv on April 18, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.designbeep.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2F1.free-psd-files.jpg&hash=d4da0398f611bf3062c6e3fe63326541ed8b6131)

Awarded to Kitz!

I've just remembered that when I used the PN supplied sagencom router my VoIP phone was briefly on 192.168.1.1 - must have been something left behind by that - bizarre!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: burakkucat on April 18, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
It's always the little things that are forgotten which cause the most trouble.  ::)  One word from Kitz and all is well . . .  :D
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on April 18, 2015, 07:28:13 PM
Quote
One word from Kitz and all is well . . .  :D

If only other things in life was that easy  :lol:
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on June 25, 2015, 11:59:39 AM
Hi all,

Sync 65341/20000
Max. Attainable of 77104/22251 SNR 6.3/7.1


So as an update to this. I now have G.INP on my line and it's regularly connecting like this: -

Attainable rate (kbit/s)   76084   19285
Line rate (kbit/s)-------77360    19829

Rather happy with the line rate now being quicker than the attainble!
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on June 26, 2015, 03:10:12 PM
Quote
Rather happy with the line rate now being quicker than the attainble!

Whats your SNRm at?
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on June 26, 2015, 08:49:14 PM
Stats recorded 26 Jun 2015 20:48:24

Code: [Select]
DSLAM/MSAN type:           BDCM:0xa459 / v0xa459
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    6 hours 22 min 15 sec
Resyncs:                   3 (since 25 Jun 2015 12:01:20)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     19.0      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not monitored     
Connection speed (kbps):   76221      19395
SNR margin (dB):           6.1        5.9
Power (dBm):               12.8       7.4
Interleave depth:          8          4
INP:                       48.00      47.00
G.INP:                     Enabled     

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0677      0.0867
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0


Edit to put data between code tags for better formatting
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: kitz on June 27, 2015, 01:25:20 AM
The reason I asked about your SNRm is because if the line rate is above the attainable rate it usually means the SNRm is running lower than the Target SNRm of 6dB.   If the SNRm falls too low it can cause Errors and eventually cause the line to resync.


However it looks like the line has recently retrained at a rate much nearer to the max attainable.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: dee.jay on June 27, 2015, 02:18:53 AM
Yes it fell over during the day yesterday and has dropped slightly, but the max attainable has also dropped.

I was running slightly over it at 77360 for nearly a fortnight but I didn't think to make a note of the SNR.
Title: Re: HG612 new firmware - Preliminary results.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on November 27, 2015, 02:01:14 AM
VLAN 301 is used for BT Wifi. To kill BTAgent you have to run the killall -KILL start btagent command

Are you sure about that?  Because I can't see anything on the HG612 that would pass traffic from that VLAN out of LAN1.

Pretty sure that VLAN 301 is just remote provisioning which would indeed be related to BT Agent.