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Announcements => Site & Forum Discussion => Topic started by: kitz on October 06, 2012, 05:29:49 PM
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Regarding the adslchecker problems in this thread (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,11524.0.html) and the google api.... can I have some guinea pigs please to test out the new version.
Please bear in mind that :-
It uses your postal code and therefore will select a midpoint, rather than your actual house.
Its still a work in progress so not quite everything works yet.
Theres no images and the layout isnt finished so it looks a bit rough.
Im concentrating on being able to return distance information between home and exchange and the google map info.
Thanks :)
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Edited to add
Thank you every one for you feedback, new version is live :)
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Hello Kitz,
I've just tried out the new ADSL checker, and it seems to be OK.
One thing, which may or may not be relevant is that according to the Attenuation for my line, it has previously been reported (both by the old one on here and others) that my distance form the exchange is 2.3Km, whereas the new one says 1.7Km.
TTFN
toulouse
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If youre talking about the figure obtained from the maximum speed calculator (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php), then that should always be more accurate than the figures obtained from the google maps which uses road distance.
The figure obtained from the adslchecker wont ever be as accurate because it uses your postal code which will obviously cover quite a few houses (or a whole street). It also cant know if the route for the telephone cable goes around the houses before reaching your home.
In most instances the road distance will normally provide a good guide for anyone who doesnt already have any line stats to give a guide for the line length.
AFAIK I was the only site to be able to provide this information and most others tended to use the direct crow flies, which is usually much too short. When the distance figures broke, I received a lot of requests to find a way to put this back in. Unfortunately it wasnt an easy fix so has taken longer than anticipated to find a solution. :/
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I don't have ADSL, just VM cable.
But I just tried the checker but don't know what to do with the results, I can't post a copy as it has too much personal info such as phone number and house location.
Would it help, or would it be possible for you to supply a link whereas people like myself could forward the results onto yourself?
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It seems to work out the road distance quite accurately for me.
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@OF. Thank you - if you didnt see anything stupid then its probably working fine :)
@ eric... thankyou. :)
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and if anyones trying to use it atm Ive just broken it :-X
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Working fine for me.
Tony
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I'm on a corner and have 2 postcodes available, though only one is "really" mine.
Both worked fine and gave sensible results, though it seems slow to respond.
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Thanks
>> though it seems slow to respond.
Thats what Im messing with atm to see if I can try to do anything to speed it up & how I managed to break it ;D
The problem is it has to access so many different databases (Mine, Sams, BTw, google maps & maps.api) and if one of those is slow, then its slows the whole thing down. I 'think' its google maps atm. The BTw data will always be slow anyhow since theres a lot of data to pull, and it warns it can take >1min, but cant do anything about that. :(
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Seems to work.
The distances seem right
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I've just had a play by inputting the details for The Cattery (a TT LLU'd line) and for that of my neighbour, Gordon, (a Beatie Infinity VDSL2 line).
Both sets of results are as to be expected. :)
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it warns it can take >1min,
Maybe you could put up some sort of progress indicator, something more meaningful than the usual moving blocks though. :D
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It looks quite reasonable using my VDSL2 phone No. & post code.
The old checker used to report around 4.9km from the exchange.
The mouslike BRAS checker & Plusnet both reported my line as 5283m
The test checker reports 5.1km which is probably quite realistic.
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Works fine as far as map and didtance are concerned, very accurate.
The BT speed estimation is way off the mark, reports 2Mb for 'max', whereas I don't think I've connected at anything less than 3.5 for about two years or so, under natural DLM control - no tweaking.
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All seems sensible for my location, though it thinks my exchange is at the wrong end of the road it's in, which skews the figures a bit - but I'm pretty sure that's a postcode thing.
Wouldn't it be good to have a database of exact locations for BT exchanges that you could access? :)
Wonder if such a list would technically be classified information, due to fear of terrorists (or the Ruskies if you're using a GPO directory) :lol:
Ian
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>>> Wouldn't it be good to have a database of exact locations for BT exchanges that you could access?
There is - kindly provided by Sam :) I then convert its postal code to a geo-location lat/long, but its well known that gmap doesnt cope very well with uk postal codes and the area can be a bit vague. :/
I still need to do quite a bit of tweeking when it comes to the actual map and placing the images on another layer. Trying to find decent instructions on how to use the api v3 is like a needle in a haystack and most tutorials are for v2 and nothing like the new maps app.
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No mention of Digital Region being available,there is on SamKnows ???
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I was thinking of something more exact than a postcode, since Google (and Nokia Maps) translates the postcode of my exchange to the wrong end of a mile long road.
(It's actually harder to be wrong, whilst being on the correct road - the exchange is mere feet from the top junction of the road, the postcode appears to place it mere feet from the bottom junction, which is a mile away)
Ian
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Im concentrating on being able to return distance information between home and exchange and the google map info.
Thank you very much every one for your feedback, Im happy that the road distance calculation is going to work as good as it can and this is now live, which should hopefully make a few people happy again. :)
adsl checker (http://adslchecker)
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Seems fine here Kitz.
Home & exchange locations accurate & distance seems fine.
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No mention of Digital Region being available,there is on SamKnows ???
Im running the latest API and theres nothing available (nor any mention of) Digital Region. :(
I have however hacked something together. If you would like to do the honours and test it, because they're not available near here, but it seems to work on a few random pizza shops in sheffield. :D
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I was thinking of something more exact than a postcode, since Google (and Nokia Maps) translates the postcode of my exchange to the wrong end of a mile long road.
(It's actually harder to be wrong, whilst being on the correct road - the exchange is mere feet from the top junction of the road, the postcode appears to place it mere feet from the bottom junction, which is a mile away)
Ian
I understand where youre coming from, but I would always be reliant on the Google api, which makes it rather awkward, because of their limitations :/
The new api is awful - and although it works fine with javascript (client side) thats no use if you are trying to interact with server side information and customise sending in your own variables and parameters server side such as with php. The documentation is appalling - in many instances theres nothing, which is why its taken so long to actually be able to do something for the distance calculation v3 api (you cannot pass javascript to any server side language).
Im still not happy with the actual map image and Ive reverted back to v2 whilst Im trying to figure out a way to implement their v3 version before v2 becomes fully deprecated :(
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No mention of Digital Region being available,there is on SamKnows ???
Im running the latest API and theres nothing available (nor any mention of) Digital Region. :(
I have however hacked something together. If you would like to do the honours and test it, because they're not available near here, but it seems to work on a few random pizza shops in sheffield. :D
I see Digital Region as available now............but how long do I have to stay in Halal Southern Fried Pizza.. :lol: