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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: brutos on July 31, 2012, 02:00:34 PM

Title: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on July 31, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
So i have a new sky install on the 15th on August and was wondering what work will the engineer have to do ?

Coming from a BB support background i have fair idea and i have search google of other installs but no better place to ask than Kitz

I know they have to change the socket  however the flat in live in doesn't have an NTE5, the sockets i have (two) look like the LJU type of sockets so will this be replaced by the BT engineer ? Any drilling in involved also as that's a no no by the landlord.

Thanks for the advice in advance.
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: kitz on July 31, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Welcome to the forums. :)
Im afraid I cant really tell you much,  as FTTC is no-where near here atm, but Im sure there will be others who have been there and done it who will be along shortly to share their experiences.
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on July 31, 2012, 03:41:16 PM
Welcome to the forums. :)
Im afraid I cant really tell you much,  as FTTC is no-where near here atm, but Im sure there will be others who have been there and done it who will be along shortly to share their experiences.

Thanks mate awaiting their replies i did BB broadband support for 3 years i always refer customers to this site when they have issues beyond our control, but now am a Cisco geek i forgot all my BB knowledge.
 
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on July 31, 2012, 08:06:48 PM
A FTTC installation requires a SSFP to be fitted to the NTE5/A and if there is currently no such NTP at the premises, one would be fitted.

Could you unscrew each of the two telephone sockets, photograph the rear of them both and attach the images to a message to this thread, please?

Depending upon the current situation, the installing engineer may be able to directly replace one of the existing sockets with an NTE5/A. Are the existing sockets flush mounted into recessed backing boxes? Or are they surface mounted?
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: Black Sheep on July 31, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
As B*Cat alludes to, it all depends on the installation you have at present, as to how the FTTC transpires ??

Whatever state your installation is at present, you will be left with a new NTE5 back-plate, a VDSL intermediate plate, and a NTE5 frontplate, all of which form one chunky looking Master Socket.

As engineers, our brief is to install the white modem (Huawei or ECI, dependant on the vendor in your area), against a wall by fitting 2 plug and screws. This may mean a minimum of drilling. If you (or your landlord) are insistent no holes are to be drilled, then I personally would inform you of how they need a good airflow around them, and mention this in the note to cover myself should the modem overheat.

All-in-all, if you have just one telephone socket in the premises, and you wish the new VDSL modem and Hub to be sited next to it, then the actual 'installation' shouldn't take much more than an hour. That's the Cab work, and testing and demo'ing all in, as well as the socket change.

Two things you will need for the engineer though are 1) An extra 240v power outlet for the additional modem. 2) A kettle, some coffee and a tray of biscuits.

The actual VDSL speed you will receive, is dependant on the outcome of 2).  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on July 31, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
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2) A kettle, some coffee and a tray of biscuits.

I would be sorely tempted with a freshly prepared bacon sandwich!  ;)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 01, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
After checking the sockets again ...they are not surface mounted and i located the main master socket and actually was able to improve my current speed to 16mg from 12meg by removing the ring wire which i never bothered to do in the past now am thinking of not switching LOL LOL

I also changed the socket to an NTE5a will post some pics soon...

I have ordered some sticky pads so if needs be stick it to the wall

Master Socket  Before ring wire was removed.
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Extension

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Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: silversurfer44 on August 01, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Two dollops of Blu Tack.
That's thats holding mine to the wall.
Less likely to tear the paper when/if I move it ;D
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 01, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
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I also changed the socket to an NTE5a will post some pics soon...

I hope it has the Openreach logo (or, at least, that of Beatie) on it.  :-X

From looking at your photos, I would have thought that the NTE5/A back-plate would fit into the recessed backing box. Failing that, you should be able to fit the surface mount box over the aperture by using the screws that held the original MK socket into the recessed box. No wall-drilling required.  ;)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 02, 2012, 11:36:52 AM
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I also changed the socket to an NTE5a will post some pics soon...

I hope it has the Openreach logo (or, at least, that of Beatie) on it.  :-X

From looking at your photos, I would have thought that the NTE5/A back-plate would fit into the recessed backing box. Failing that, you should be able to fit the surface mount box over the aperture by using the screws that held the original MK socket into the recessed box. No wall-drilling required.  ;)

Nah it doesn't am just gonna stick it on with sticky pads or blue tack...

No socket has or ever had BT logo on them...more than likely these weren't installed by BT in the first instance
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 02, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
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Nah it doesn't am just gonna stick it on with sticky pads or blue tack...

 :thumbs:

Don't forget the picture, to update this thread, once you've finished the job!  :)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 02, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
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Nah it doesn't am just gonna stick it on with sticky pads or blue tack...

 :thumbs:

Don't forget the picture, to update this thread, once you've finished the job!  :)

yep will do once finished
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: openreach dude on August 04, 2012, 08:23:54 AM
1) An extra 240v power outlet for the additional modem. 2) A kettle, some coffee and a tray of biscuits.

The actual VDSL speed you will receive, is dependant on the outcome of 2).  ;) ;D ;D

Did make me chuckle this one........as BS says, yours seems a relatively easy install compared to some. Drilling will me the absolute minimum for mounting the modem to the wall.......(2x8mm).
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: NewtronStar on August 11, 2012, 11:10:39 PM
1) An extra 240v power outlet for the additional modem. 2) A kettle, some coffee and a tray of biscuits.

The actual VDSL speed you will receive, is dependant on the outcome of 2).  ;) ;D ;D

Did make me chuckle this one........as BS says, yours seems a relatively easy install compared to some. Drilling will me the absolute minimum for mounting the modem to the wall.......(2x8mm).

and Don't forget 4 inchs apart and 2 wall grubs for a nice finish  :D
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 15, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So installed done today sweet..will post pics later

http://speedtest.net/result/2120639605.png
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 15, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
Looking good. (I assume a 40/10 profile.)

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 15, 2012, 09:18:10 PM
Looking good. (I assume a 40/10 profile.)

 :thumbs:
yep but might go for the pro unlimited soon

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Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 15, 2012, 09:32:48 PM
Excellent. And thank you for the photograph.  :)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: NewtronStar on August 16, 2012, 09:21:24 PM
Nice ! very close to 40/10 Maxium must be close to the cab  :) & luv the logitech 5.1 system I hope its connected to a X-FI titanium  ;)

Not sure about that Razer Blade though  ???
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: GigabitEthernet on August 16, 2012, 10:21:03 PM
Hmm, I am not sure if having that equipment on the floor is a good idea :( .

I didn't know there was a black FTTC modem. Am I seeing things?
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 16, 2012, 10:46:13 PM
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I didn't know there was a black FTTC modem. Am I seeing things?

There isn't. And "yes".  ;)

The Openreach supplied VDSL2 modem is fitted to the wall adjacent to the NTE5/A. The black, rectangular box on the floor is some other "doings".  ::)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: GigabitEthernet on August 16, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
I see it. Should've gone to Specsavers.
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: asbokid on August 16, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
Looks like a great set-up, brutos!

cheers, a
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 17, 2012, 12:03:17 AM
Nice ! very close to 40/10 Maxium must be close to the cab  :) & luv the logitech 5.1 system I hope its connected to a X-FI titanium  ;)

Not sure about that Razer Blade though  ???
Yea cab is at the en of my road so not that far yea speakers are brillant they are connected to my AC ryan media streamer..

LOL LOL razor was used to cut wires...just cant be bother to move it
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 17, 2012, 12:06:25 AM
Hmm, I am not sure if having that equipment on the floor is a good idea :( .

I didn't know there was a black FTTC modem. Am I seeing things?

Black box is a TP-Link 5 port gig switch 
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 17, 2012, 01:19:50 AM
Black box is a TP-Link 5 port gig switch

A.k.a. "Doings".  :lol:
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: Black Sheep on August 17, 2012, 07:54:09 AM
Hmm, I am not sure if having that equipment on the floor is a good idea :( .

I didn't know there was a black FTTC modem. Am I seeing things?

Yup, gotta agree about the siting of the equipment, whatever the 'doings' ??  ;D
It's got 'overheating' written all over it.
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: burakkucat on August 17, 2012, 05:14:02 PM
Yup, gotta agree about the siting of the equipment, whatever the 'doings' ??  ;D
It's got 'overheating' written all over it.

Yes, b*cat nods in agreement, as the Billion and the doings are resting on the carpet.
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 23, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
Nah its fine where it ts mate ..am senior Cisco voice network engineer so am certainly not new to networking equipment...
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: Black Sheep on August 23, 2012, 03:56:57 PM
Your choice, Brutos. :)
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: brutos on August 23, 2012, 04:52:52 PM
Your choice, Brutos. :)

most my devices are on the floor 1800series router/877tplink routers cisco switches , never had any issues with over heating unless the vents are blocked...
Title: Re: New Sky Fiber Install question
Post by: Black Sheep on August 23, 2012, 06:12:41 PM
Fair do's pal. You know your routers, so are best placed to comment.  :)