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Title: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: UncleUB on February 01, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
Either from Filehippo

http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/

Or by clicking the orange Firefox button>Help>about Firefox>check for updates
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: AdrianH on February 01, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
Good luck with that then, it is already causing issues  :lol: .
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: camallison on February 01, 2012, 11:52:08 AM
Can you expand on "already causing issues" please.  The detail may just help those in peril from an update.

Colin
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: scottiesmum on February 01, 2012, 11:58:19 AM
I've updated, no problems  ....  and all my 'add on' are compatible   ..  I am STILL undecided between FF and Opera  ::)

Thanks Unc  :flower:
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: UncleUB on February 01, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
I've updated, no problems  ....  and all my 'add on' are compatible   ..  I am STILL undecided between FF and Opera  ::)

Thanks Unc  :flower:

Yes I too updated and all add-ons are compatible.  :)

I do use FF less and less these days in favour of Chrome,and sometimes Opera
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: AdrianH on February 01, 2012, 12:18:10 PM
Can you expand on "already causing issues" please.  The detail may just help those in peril from an update.

Colin


Reports are coming in from users on forums and websites that this version is not working where applications use "browser checks".
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Firefox 10 was released today.

 This was reported on anther forum...

 Just hit one site which spit the dummy with the browser version# check – apparently 2-digit browser version numbers can be a problem.
 It saw FF10 as FF1 and suggested to update to at least FF3
If anyone has browser version checks in their add-ons they might want to review them
There have been a good few more and webmasters are finding that control panels are not functioning correctly ......
Many people in the site /forum admin world are thorougly sick and tired of the constant "upgrade" nonsense and changing features which Mozilla are producing as it causes huge headaches for them. Indeed many are now dropping Firefox altogether and 2 admins I spoke with today with extremely large forums are seriously considering dropping any futher support for Mozilla products. They tell visitors to use Opera or Chrome now.
If you have 3+ million posts, 200,000 members and hundreds of pages to maintain these issues soon become totally overwhelming.
Personally I wont have a browser authored by a community that has a habit of producing security flaws and needs patching with "no script "  to make it safe to use on any system of mine.
Browsers that support/require Active X are the reason for the propogation of malware. ;)
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: UncleUB on February 01, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
Interestingly about browser updates,if you go back to near the beginning of the Webmail and browsing thread..Opera 9.1 was rolled out around Dec 2006 and we are now on version 11.61

Firefox 2 was rolled out around Sept 2006 and we are now on version 10.0.

I think FF has lost a lot of friends these last few months because of the way the are constantly rolling updates out and catching various companies out who then have to play catch up
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 01, 2012, 12:36:19 PM
It's easy enough in FF to change the user agent string so that it presents itself as Firefox 9 (say), to overcome the browser version checks.
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: AdrianH on February 01, 2012, 01:08:21 PM
It's easy enough in FF to change the user agent string so that it presents itself as Firefox 9 (say), to overcome the browser version checks.


As an individual with the knowledge, yes but if you have thousands of visitors an hour and they meet this issue?
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: scottiesmum on February 01, 2012, 01:12:14 PM
They could always  come on here and ask Eric   ;D
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: broadstairs on February 01, 2012, 03:08:45 PM
It's easy enough in FF to change the user agent string so that it presents itself as Firefox 9 (say), to overcome the browser version checks.


As an individual with the knowledge, yes but if you have thousands of visitors an hour and they meet this issue?

There is an add-on which allows customisation of the user agent string easily, right now cant remember what it is called as its on my PC which is under repair.

Stuart

PS. just updated this laptop to FF10 with no problems so far.

PPS. the add-on is called User Agent Switcher
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: tuftedduck on February 01, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
I don't...won't....use Firefox, but this may be of interest.

It's the Firefox 10 release notes.......scroll doen a bit and see the "known but unresolved issues"
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/10.0/releasenotes/

Having said that, I do not see the Mozilla forum ( or any other forum) full of complaints about the usage of this version.
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: scottiesmum on February 01, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
I have Opera as default browser, (I'm getting more used to it's little idiosyncrasies  ;D)  but I do change to Firefox if I want the radio  on in the evening   so that I can leave it on, and have the auto-shutdown do its stuff without crashing Opera !  However, since the last update of FF (the one before this one) the BBC Radio player is playing "silly people"  It has decided that it won't open in the FF Tab, I have to change it to the IE Tab in order for it to work  :shrug2:   That's a not a query on how to sort it ... I can live with that !  it's just my reason for keeping FF.  Why don't they all get together and make one really super duper, safe to use, bug free, browser that we can all use  ... :lol:
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 01, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
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Why don't they all get together and make one really super duper, safe to use, bug free, browser that we can all use

I expect that every browser producer on the planet would say that their browser fits the description... ;D
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 02, 2012, 10:23:03 AM
I've found that on my system, v10 crashes if I try to access http://speedtester.bt.com/ :(

(Correction - it crashes after I click on the ADSL button)
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: tuftedduck on February 02, 2012, 10:45:10 AM
That site is currently "down"........so it may not be FF.
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 02, 2012, 10:56:27 AM
Thanks TD, that may be the explanation (although of course the browser still shouldn't crash).
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: UncleUB on February 02, 2012, 02:04:20 PM
Don't get too settled with FF 10.0..............version 11.0 Beta1 has just be released :swoon:

http://filehippo.com/download_firefox/
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: jeffbb on February 02, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
Hi
no problem with BT speed test :)

Regards Jeff
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 02, 2012, 06:42:51 PM
Thanks Jeff. It's still crashing here, so it may be a problem with the Linux version of FF 10.0. I've sent a bug report to Mozilla.
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: camallison on February 02, 2012, 06:46:57 PM
Confirm Jeff's comment - no problem on WinXP and FF 10.0 - I will try on Ubuntu and FF 10.0 on another machine.

Colin
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: tuftedduck on February 03, 2012, 06:14:47 AM
This may be of interest.

http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=87860&pid=520128&st=0&#entry520128

Scroll down to the post headed "Reset Firefox Feature Gets An Update"
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 03, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Thanks again TD. That feature doesn't seem to be incorporated yet, and I think I prefer to avoid automated functions like this. Later on I'll try launching FF with an empty profile to see what happens.
Title: Re: FireFox 10.0 available now
Post by: roseway on February 03, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
I've run it with an empty profile, and I've also tried v11.0- beta 1, and in both case it still crashes on the BT speedtester site. I've reverted to v9.0.1, and it doesn't crash. So I'm pretty sure that this is a bug, and hopefully it will be recognised and fixed shortly.