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Computers & Hardware => Apple Related => Topic started by: kitz on December 30, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
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As per title... does anyone have apple tv and an ipod/ipad....
....and if so would they be willing to try and see if they can stream BBCiplayer and/or ITVplayer with it?
tyvm. :)
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There is much confusion about this, some saying it does, some saying it doesnt.
Apparently the ipad2 and iphone do, but the ipod doesnt - gawd knows why they didnt make it so, even though my ipod touch runs on OS 5.. and will support Airplay..
....they just havent made an app for airplay mirroring on the ipod touch.
Guess theres an app for this, but not for that!
/me is sad
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I can see why there is so much confusion too.
http://www.apple.com/appletv/airplay.html
With AirPlay, you can wirelessly stream what’s on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV.
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Sorry that you're having to talk to yourself. :) I'm afraid I've never owned anything by Apple, so I can't make any useful comment.
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Sorry Kitz, likewise, unable to help.
The 7LM household has considerable investment in Apple technology, but it is only a means to an end so that I can play around with 'app' development. The 'touch is only really used as a games console, whilst my MAC Mini desktop doesn't even have iTunes set up on it. iTunes runs on a windows box to which the 'touch gets synced, whist the things that are connected to the TV & HiFi only run Linux. Nobody would ever have guessed that the 'M' stands for 'Muddle'? :D
Nevertheless, if there's any specific experiment I could conduct for you, involving a MAC Mini and an iPod Touch, feel free to ask...
- 7LM
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No worries eric, I was just wondering if there was anyone that had one and could let me know for sure.
The info was so confusing and the potential xmas pressie from my parents was Apple TV, but I wasnt sure if it would do what I wanted and didnt want to waste the $ if it wouldnt.
In the end I got the info from someone at Amazon reviews that it wouldnt work on the ipod touch - only the ipad2 or Iphone (despite being OS 5.0) :(
@ 7LM
What it is, is that I use my ipod touch a fair bit and I love it. I also use it a lot to stream BBC i player, but the only thing is the size of the screen and I was looking for a way to view it on the TV.
I love being able to watch what I like when I like and the only tele I really watch is on demand and hence thought that Apple TV may be the ideal solution.
I used to use my lappy to stream bbc iplayer, but the lappy is now many years old and it dies after about 10 mins, so cant use that any more :(
I go in hosp next week and since I prolly wont be up to much for a few days after, I was looking for something now that I could use with the TV in my bedroom.
The only other thing I have really is my phone HTC Desire S - that can also stream i-player - another tiny screen, but I dont think you can hook that up either...
.... and of course the PC but it would HAVE to be wireless.
So if anyone knows if there is any other way I can stream stuff like iplayer to the TV I'd be grateful for suggestions :)
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.... and now I am soooooo confused.
This is according to the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/12/iplayer_bbciplayer_iphone_android.html
BBC iPlayer iPhone app
The BBC iPlayer app for the iPhone and iPod touch puts all of the BBC’s national television channels and radio networks in your pocket. You can now watch live television channels and listen to live radio stations wherever you are.
/snip/
The app is compatible with Apple AirPlay. If you are running iOS5, you can connect your iPhone or iPod touch to Apple TV and watch your favourite programme on your television.
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What it is, is that I use my ipod touch a fair bit and I love it.
That I can understand, our 'touch actually belongs to my other half and I probably didn't do it justice in my description. Suffice it to say that when the first one sadly broke a few weeks ago she went into severe withdrawal symptoms and we ended up taking advantage of late-night shopping to get a new one within a couple of days! BTW, that involved as switch from 2nd generation to 4th generation, for which there's a very noticeable improvement in screen resolution.
I suspect the AppleTV would also be a nice piece of kit. I'm not sure if it is a cousin of my MAC Mini, but that is also a gorgeous little device which just sits on a corner of the desk, totally silent and cool-running, and does everything I could ask of it. In fact, although it was just meant to be a development box, I have strongly 'adopted' it as my favoured desktop machine these days for general web-browsing duties etc.
Everything I find about AppleTV, airplay and iPod touch seem to imply they ought to work together, though we all know that the only way to find out for sure these days is to try it out. You're right to be diligent, but are these (negative) amazon reviews really convincing?
If you want another suggestion, I think some newer Blu-Ray players are also supposed to support WiFi and iPlayer. But I'd have the same worries as with the Apple setup... whilst they may work admirably and do all that they claim, I'd take all claims with a pinch of salt until I got it out of the box and tried it for myself.
- 7LM
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Thanks 7LM for the reply :)
>> 2nd generation to 4th generation
Yes I have a 4th gen and it is very clear - pressumably helped by the retina display. However the screen is still tiny which is why it doesnt cut it for video really.
>> AppleTV would also be a nice piece of kit. I'm not sure if it is a cousin of my MAC Mini
My parents phoned about an hour ago, my brother has gone ahead and bought his and loves it and it apparently works (Same xmas pressie from the parents). Big difference though is that he has an ipad2 which it is used with.
He doesnt have a 4th gen ipod though with which he can test it for me to see if it work... and unfort there isnt going to be any way I can get over there with mine for quite a while to try and play.
>> You're right to be diligent, but are these (negative) amazon reviews really convincing?
Everything just seemed so conflicting when it came to the ipod though which is why I was holding back. Ive spend ages trying to research it as I didnt want to waste $
I did however stumble across this thread (http://www.avforums.com/forums/apple-tv/1471947-apple-tv-2-bbc-iplayer-2.html) during my travels and have posted in there... bonus is just realised it can stream from my PC too via iTunes ;D
So... looks like I'll be getting one :D
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That looks very promising then :fingers:
My experience with Apple has usually been that whereas other makers tend to exaggerate their equipment's abilities, Apple are often surprisingly modest. I still half expect somebody to discover that the iPod touch has a secret full-size qwerty keyboard hidden inside. :D
Here's hoping that your recovery is swift, and that your new gadget eases the process. :)
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YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Confirms that the ipod touch WILL without a doubt, 100% perfectly, is able to stream BBC iplayer direct from an ipod touch 4th Generation using iOS 5.0 and Apple TV :clap:
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Result! ;D
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:)
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I'm dead chuffed that it works, and the picture quality for streaming is excellent (I guess a decent internet connection helps with that bit).
So far I love it :)
Im also a bit chuffed cause I did a bit of haggling with Comet under their price guarantee and although they dont normally include Amazon, I got what I wanted in the end. Plus I also stated the reason why I wanted it.. and implied that it would be going back if it didnt. They were actually very helpful and threw in a Belkin HDMI cable... and price matched something else I bought. :)
It did take a while to set up though.. the major problem was upgrading i-tunes believe it or not.... which took aaaages, and until I'd done that it couldnt seem to find my PC for network sharing.
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:thumbs: :clap2:
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:clap2: :dance: 8)
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.. and just for completeness sake.
~ 4OD works streaming and will also let you download to your itunes library if you want to save for viewing later.
~ I didnt have much luck with the itv player, it plays fine on the ipod, but only gave me sound via airplay on the ATV2. :/
~ catchup tv works. This is not on demand, and only does live streaming, but may useful if you want to watch one of the many listed (mostly freeview type) channels.
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As per title... does anyone have apple tv and an ipod/ipad....
....and if so would they be willing to try and see if they can stream BBCiplayer and/or ITVplayer with it?
tyvm. :)
No experience with any Apple kit, sorry.
However, have got some 'invites' for thebox.bz a torrent site for British TV.
http://www.thebox.bz/
The site carries seeds for most anything worth watching (and a lot of what's probably not). Just downloading a 1974 episode of Captain Pugwash. The good captain and his crew sink anchor off the Island of Dodos!
For months now, thebox.bz has been a vital replacement for TV. Last summer, our ADB i-CAN Easy HD 2851T Freeview receiver box was 'temporarily' de-commissioned for internal examination (it has an unusual SuperH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperH) CPU running Linux).
Six months later, the box is still on the bench awaiting re-assembly!
cheers, a
p.s. good luck for hospital.
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Thank you vm for the offer, but torrents wouldnt fit the bill for what I wanted as I couldnt play back on the TV in the bedroom without hooking up to some other sort of box, or burning to cd first.
I didnt want to be drilling holes and laying network cable, and although I suppose I could use powerline plugs, that would just be pushing the cost up further.
Hence looking specifically for something that would let me stream on demand when I wanted without too much hassle to the bedroom TV via wireless.
The ATV2 is a nice piece of kit, about the size of the palm of your hand and just simply plugs into the TV's HDMI socket and supposedly away you go... (or would have been if i-Tunes wasnt being such a PITA and taking so long to update). Now its up and running and the integration via Airplay means that my ipod now acts as a remote for it. If you have any i-devices then I suppose it becomes the obvious choice.
I now believe there is another box which does similar (WDLiveTV) that may be an alternative for streaming via a laptop/PC. If the ATV hadnt done what I wanted I suppose that would have been my alternative.
>>> the box is still on the bench awaiting re-assembly!
oooh dear... one of those round tuits? :D
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I think my biggest worry, having followed this thread, is that OH may read it and will be asking why don't have AppleTV instead of the Linux-based MythTV?
The answer is of course that MythTV is even better, and we have one under both TVs - lounge & bedroom. But the trouble with MythTV is, the only person who can really make it jump , is the person who built the box. :D
Seriously, I'm aware of the Internet streaming capabilities of AppleTV that bear no comparison to Myth. But with my UK 'state of the art' broadband speed of (IP Profile) 2500kbps, internet streaming is nothing more than a dream. :)
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>>> why don't have AppleTV instead of the Linux-based MythTV?
Without a doubt MythTV is capable of so much more than the likes of ATV2 which does have restrictions and isnt a full blown media centre.
>> the only person who can really make it jump , is the person who built the box.
Whilst I dont have MythTV, I do have a box connected to the downstairs TV that runs Windows Media Center, that I built about ummm 4-5 years ago so I can well understand that.
However, that project (which is probably documented on these forums somewhere) took months of planning and wasnt without its problems (1) the TV card (2) the O/S - yeah ok windows!!!!!! (3) It was supposed to run via Wireless - it should have worked via wireless!!!! But despite buying a wireless booster I never seemed to be able to get any decent bandwidth (again theres probably a long thread somewhere about that too) and in the end I had to lay network cable. What should have been an exciting project for me, kind of turned into a bit of a disappointment that ended up costing more than it should have in both time, stress and money. iirc Eric built a linux version at about the same time with the same TV card, I dont know if he had more success than me in the long term and if his box is still in use?
I dont have the patience or time to repeat that experiment again :lol:
>>> broadband speed of (IP Profile) 2500kbps, internet streaming is nothing more than a dream.
:( :(
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Yes, you're right, I did build a Linux MythTV box at about the same time as you. I used a distro called Mythbuntu, which made the setting up of MythTV very easy. It worked very well, and I used it for some time, but the one thing I never got to work was getting it to wake up from standby when a timed recording was due. Eventually I gave up the struggle, and the parts have since been recycled into other PCs.
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but the one thing I never got to work was getting it to wake up from standby when a timed recording was due.
It's one thing I've never tried.
I compromised on a central server that's and runs the backend. It also provides all the main filestore for the various other machines that we use, and (on the to do list) will run cron jobs overnight for backups. It also gives us Linux logins whenever we want either via SSH terminals, or VNC when a GUI is needed.
I'm embarrassed to admit the server runs 24/7, but it's the only machine in the house that needs to do so, and at least I've persuaded the disks to power down when idle (saves about 10W per disk) :blush:
The main compromise I have accepted is wakening the frontends, which sit under the TVs. The home-made IR detectors are driven from the serial port and implemented in software, hence they can't be used to awaken the machine once it's in standby. A hike across the room is needed and given kitz's immediate requirement, that could be a real nuisance.
I could probably use ready-made USB IR detectors that would wake the system from standby, but then I'd lose the flexibility of the home-brewed ones which can be scripted to do pretty much anything I like from any remote, or combination of remotes, that I choose.