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Broadband Related => Broadband Technology => Topic started by: UncleUB on October 05, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
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Hi all,
Is there any maps/way of showing BT street cabinets.
I have just contacted the Digital Region offices and was told that my home is now live for a fibre broadband connection and was quoted a cabinet number.
She told me to contact one of the isp's who will be able to supply me a connection.Saying that I'm under contract with O2 so no immediate plans to jump ship.
I just wondered how near my home the quoted cabinet number was.
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Hi Uncy,
You should attempt to verify that statement by putting your number into the Infinity web site which will probably reject it !
Then walking boots on and try to find the cabinet. When you do verify that there is an auxiliary cabinet close-by usually with a new strip of tarmac between them.
Be prepared to be disappointed !
Kind regards,
Walter
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Try this site :
http://www.trefor.net/tech-pages/fttc/
You may need to register to access some data.
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Hi Uncy,
You should attempt to verify that statement by putting your number into the Infinity web site which will probably reject it !
It did Walter. :'(
Due to my arthritis walking boots not an option,will have to investigate via car. :)......or send Sue on her bike ;D
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Uncle,
You could make the Senior Management's job a little simpler by using Google Maps streetview to determine the location of all the PCPs in the near vicinity of your abode. Having compiled a list of those locations, then you could send out your resident cyclist to visit each one in turn and to note number stencilled there upon. If it would not be a problem, an overview photograph of each cabinet's location would show which has been provided with a fibre twin. :)
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I have located the street cab/s.........just round the corner.Didn't have the camera so will take a snap hopefully tomorrow.
If my exchange hasn't been enabled for FTTC...then where do the cables run to from the street cab... :shrug2:
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Hi Unky,
Remember that if you are to have a Digital Region service, that won't be included in BT's FTTC areas list.
Have you checked what SamKnows has listed on his site ?
It's quite probable that the fibre cables may go via your BT exchange unless DR Have hired ducts from another CP.
Kind regards,
Walter.
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It says Digital Region on the list but no BT FFTC and no cable operators in my area....?
The following services are available in your location:
BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
BT Wholesale SDSL
AOL LLU
O2 / Be LLU
Bulldog LLU
TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU
Tiscali LLU
Tiscali TV (via Tiscali LLU)
Digital Region
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I shall take the dog for a walk soon, because I saw them installing FTTC cabinets just along the road from us in the past few weeks. See if they have stencilled a number on it. In fact, there are 3 such cabinets within a half mile of us - could be any of them that we might connect to.
Colin
PS - I note from trefor.net that we go live 31st December 2011 - my contract runs out end of Jan 2012, so could eb in for an upgrade to FTTC if I play it right. :dance:
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@ Unky,
I've PMed you with the results from two of the Digital Region service providers.
I expect you have to have a BT Wholesale phone line i.e. NOT one that is Local Loop Unbundled. As an independent Wholesale supplier I doubt if BT will release the details of the LLU lines to Digital Region without a struggle. They tried this trick on Rutland Telecoms until it became obvious.
Kind regards,
Walter
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Thanks Walter,
Our phone line is with BT and our BB is O2 LLU
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Well what a palaver...... :no:
Was told that digital region has now enabled me to have a FTTC and was given a list of ISP's
www.Ripwire.co.uk.......Was told that they are not able to supply me.........Digital region says otherwise,even given me the cabinet number.
Contacted them by phone....hadn't a clue,no there (9.15am)to answer my query,so girl took my phone number.
Next,
Digital Region then gave me the phone number of www.origin-broadband.co.uk...phoned them,answering machine :no:
Not much choice and tbh this doesn't look good if you ever need support from these companies.
Edit..managed to speak with someone at Origin
Was told 24mb downloadspeed/2mb upload speed....£17.50 a month +£55 installation,which I didn't think was too bad considering when I first started with BT BB in 2007 it was £17.99 for what amounted to a 1/1.5mb connection.
Apparently you have to connect using 2 routers,one connects into the other?
The only other provider is www.ask4.com but their prices are from £25 a month and all their contact numbers(including support)are 0845 >:(
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Hmm, not too good a response from those potential suppliers, Uncle.
How about posting your current Sync speed, SNRM and Attenuation (both DS and US) for your current service? (For no reason other than to satisfy my curiosity. ;) )
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How about posting your current Sync speed, SNRM and Attenuation (both DS and US) for your current service? (For no reason other than to satisfy my curiosity. ;) )
Your wish is my command Mr B-Cat :)
Router using ethernet connection plugged into BT master socket(which is next to computer)with no other internal wiring/sockets
Link Information
Uptime: 17 days, 10:36:04
DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 850 / 3,846
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 845 / 2,423
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 16.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 38.0 / 66.5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 11.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 152 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 14,284 / 426,607
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 14,284 / 1,560
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 117,126 / 1,136
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Thank you, Uncle. Your link performs nearly as well as the one connecting me from "The Cattery" to the outside world.
Dependent upon what you need (as distinct to would like) from your broadband connection, I would be very tempted to make do with what you currently have. It is clear that the organisation of the YDR still has a lot to be arranged.
I am in an area that has FTTC available and the PCP though which I connect has its fibre twin in place, powered up and active. At present, I cannot justify the hiatus in switching CP nor the increased cost of a FTTC based service. :no:
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Dependent upon what you need (as distinct to would like) from your broadband connection, I would be very tempted to make do with what you currently have. It is clear that the organisation of the YDR still has a lot to be arranged.
Even though I would like a slightly faster connection I am being put off by a) The availability of isps to give me a fibre connection,and b) The worry should things go wrong and (correct me if I'm wrong),but BT would not have any responsibility for my fibre connection,so I would be at the mercy of my isp,or is it down to digital region to maintain the new street cabinets etc
Getting back to my own connection I can sync at around 3mb after a reboot,but sometimes it won't hold that speed for any long periods and re-syncs lower(as above stats)
At present I am paying O2 LLU £6.95 for an up to 20mb connection with unlimited downloads and no throttling(I chose to stay on the old package instead of moving to one of their new packages,which are £1 cheaper
It was £9.50 a month,but their retentions dept offered me the discount when I decided to renew earlier this year
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b) The worry should things go wrong and (correct me if I'm wrong),but BT would not have any responsibility for my fibre connection,so I would be at the mercy of my isp,or is it down to digital region to maintain the new street cabinets etc
Indeed. That would also be my concern. I wonder if Walter has an opinion on this aspect?
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Just had a nice chap phone me from Origin BB,told me my house was 240 yards from new FTTC cabinet.I asked him who actually maintains the new cabinets/cables if I had any problems ...
A company called Thales is apparently contracted to maintain them if there is any problems.
I told him I was still under contract with O2,he didn't put any pressure on me,but said call when you contract expires and said there are new packages etc coming out all the time so hopefully next year there will be more to chose from etc.
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I told him I was still under contract with O2,he didn't put any pressure on me,but said call when you contract expires and said there are new packages etc coming out all the time so hopefully next year there will be more to chose from etc.
Hi UncleUB,
You may wish to consider Plusnet when your current contract is due to expire.
Plusnet are actually owned by BT so fault resolution should be a very simple matter, shouldn't it?
Paul.
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Hi UncleUB,
You may wish to consider Plusnet when your current contract is due to expire.
Plusnet are actually owned by BT so fault resolution should be a very simple matter, shouldn't it?
Paul.
Hi Paul
Digital Region has nothing to do with BT,its totally separate.My BT exchange hasn't been upgraded so getting FTTC with BT or any other isp(other than those on the digital region scheme) is a no goer.
This is one of the ones available
www.origin-broadband.co.uk
www.digitalregion.co.uk
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Just had a nice chap phone me from Origin BB,told me my house was 240 yards from new FTTC cabinet.I asked him who actually maintains the new cabinets/cables if I had any problems ...
A company called Thales is apparently contracted to maintain them if there is any problems.
I know Walter is currently assisting a "long-lined" and troubled user in the Ewhust area today. I suspect he will post his opinion when time duly permits.
I am aware of the company Thales but do not have any first-hand nor anecdotal evidence of their reliability for telecommunications / networking maintenance.
Wait and see is, in my opinion, the current best course of action.
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Hi Paul
Digital Region has nothing to do with BT,its totally separate.My BT exchange hasn't been upgraded so getting FTTC with BT or any other isp(other than those on the digital region scheme) is a no goer.
This is one of the ones available
www.origin-broadband.co.uk
www.digitalregion.co.uk
I see they are also based in Yorkshire, so when the time comes, you too will no doubt be able to receive some of that "Good Honest Broadband From Yorkshire"
Paul.
P.S. Is anyone detecting a slight tinge of sarcasm in my more recent posts?
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P.S. Is anyone detecting a slight tinge of sarcasm in my more recent posts?
Yes. ::)
I wonder if you, a Lancastrian resident, realise that Uncle is a Yorkshire man who knows all that needs to be known about rabbit pie sandwiches -- unless, of course, you are deliberately attempting to restart the War of the Roses. :-X
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My local exchange(Attercliffe) has not been enabled for fibre,nor is there any date/plans to do so.I have raised this matter with my MP.
So until that happens(if ever),the only way I will be able to get a faster connection is through The Digital Region initiative,and the isp's who are signed up to it(at present 3)
So I can forget the likes of BT,Plustnet etc who can only supply a FTTC connection if your exchange has be enabled for this technology
Now who mentioned Lancashire :shoot: ;D
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Now who mentioned Lancashire :shoot: ;D
I don't like to mention it, but as born & bread Lancashire lad, I have to admit that where I live, although being in Lancashire/Greater Manchester since 1974, was at one time classed as being in the West Riding of Yorkshire.
Paul.
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It's them durned Tudors and there Roses. :P ;D