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Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: roseway on June 18, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
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Few of you will have heard of Chilham. It's a tiny village on the top of a hill, a few miles from Canterbury. But it attracts visitors from all over the world, who come to see its beautifully preserved 15th century village square and its castle with a 12th century Norman keep. The castle is really a very grand manor house built in 1616 on the site of the old castle.
The castle grounds are open to the public on alternate Tuesdays through the summer, and I went there to have a look round.
The castle
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The Norman keep
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The lake in the castle grounds
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The village square
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Lovely location Eric,and very nice photo's. :)
The last but one reminds me of the Mermaid Inn in Rye.
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Lovely place - lovely photos Eric :)
I was interested in the history of the place, and a recurring item says that Thomas Becket might have been buried in the churchyard there ........ isn't there a memorial to him in Canterbury Cathedral ? It's aeons since I visited Canterbury but remember something about Becket.
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Phil, I see what you mean about the Mermaid Inn. :)
Kate, although I've lived half an hour's drive from Canterbury for 15 years, I've never actually visited the cathedral. :-[ I must correct that very soon. Beckett, of course, was murdered in the cathedral, and there's an altar as his memorial where the deed took place.
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Chilham village is indeed a lovely place, I`ve been there a few times in the past, but I`ve never been into the Castle.
I`m sure they have Medieval re-enactments sometimes?
I`ll have to get my backside down there again and have a look round the castle grounds.
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If you want to visit the castle grounds you have to go on the right day. I was there (by lucky accident) last Tuesday 14th June, and it should be open on alternate Tuesdays, so the next open day is on the 28th, and so on.
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I've never actually visited the cathedral. :-[ I must correct that very soon.
The rather annoying thing about the cathedral in my view is that you now have to pay to take a look around. This changed some years ago and we have not been in since. You only get in for free if you attend a service or live in one of the central Canterbury parishes.
Stuart
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I imagine that the cost of maintaining a building like that must be enormous. As the cathedral is one of the main reasons for the flocks of tourists in Canterbury, I can understand their wanting to get those tourists to pay towards the upkeep.
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Of course ! Becket was murdered in the cathedral ::) it's all coming back to me now :D Apparently, Jane Austen's 'Emma' was filmed in Chilham for the BBC production .... I must watch the DVD again.
I don't mind paying, or making a donation, to look around any historical building, be it a Cathedral, Church or Stately Home (Châteaux) if it means they remain open to the public. :)
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Mermaid Inn, Rye
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Eric's Chilham village photo.
Not exactly the same,but as soon as I saw that photo it made me think of the Mermaid Inn.I stayed there many years ago. :)
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I think your posting may need some TLC, Phil. I can only see the Chilham photo. Is your Rye picture a hotlink to an image on another site?
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We visited Chilham some years ago now it's a lovely place but didn't get to see the castle. Isn't the village considered to be one of the most haunted places in Kent or am I getting that mixed up with somewhere else?
We don't get to Canterbury now since I don't drive too far atm, we used to go to the market some weeks which we enjoyed doing and only 40 odd miles away was a nice trip out. Went to the Cathedral years ago before the payment was introduced, it was lovely to walk round, would like to go back one day if we can.
Chrissie
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We visited Chilham some years ago now it's a lovely place but didn't get to see the castle. Isn't the village considered to be one of the most haunted places in Kent or am I getting that mixed up with somewhere else?
I think that's Pluckley. (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pluckley) It's got at least 12 ghosts (so they say).
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I think your posting may need some TLC, Phil. I can only see the Chilham photo. Is your Rye picture a hotlink to an image on another site?
I what to apologise for stupidly hot linking a photo form another site.It was a genuine mistake on my part.I have removed the offending photo and replaced it. :-[
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No harm done. :)
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Lived West Kent for some years of married life. Somehow it's too easy not to go to places that are relaitively near.
Chilham was one such. :(
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I've been studying roseway's lovely pics. of a lovely village.
To TD's old eyes there is something a little odd.........in that they all seem to have a slight cyan cast.
It might be my eyes..........but other images do not have this cast.
It might be my monitor....but I can view and print my own photos with very accurate colours ( monitor and printer correctly calibrated, correct colour spaces and ICC profiles used)
It may be roseways camera.....but he has changed camera recently iirc and the cast is evident on images from each camera.
:idea: Could it be a white balance problem.......possibly an incorrect setting in there.
I would be interested in comments on this.......this is one of roseways images "corrected" to suit my eyes......how do the two compare to your eyes and on your monitor ?
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It's quite possible that you're right. I've recently started shooting in raw format, and most of these pictures have been fiddled with in various ways to improve shadow and highlight detail, and in some cases to tweak the white balance. The two pictures of the castle have also been given a fairly large tweak to the gamma, in order to brighten up the mid-tones. I'm still learning of course and could certainly do better.
I'll take another look at my monitor calibration, but I can't use the popular Windows calibration utilities of course. On my monitor the frontage of the house at the left in your modified version looks a little pink to me.
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Well, in the process of comparing the two, I've figured out how to have a split screen ::) so thank you for that TD .......... to me, your 'corrected' image looks like the sun has come out compared with Eric's original. The brickwork and roof tiles therefore looks lighter and more .......... mmm !!! ooooo what's the word .... ::) if it were the spoken word it would be succinct .... I know what I mean ...I can see each individual brick and tile more clearly .... does that make sense.
PS I wouldn't like to clean those windows :D
PPS .... Clarity .... that's the word !! ;D
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I've just compared the two images side by side and would say that Roseway's image looks more natural. The building to the right is in shade and does appear somewhat cyan, however your corrected image on my monitor does appear to have a magenta cast. The building to the right now looks false. On my monitor that is.
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>> On my monitor the frontage of the house at the left in your modified version looks a little pink to me. << Yes, it does to me as well.
Interesting, isn't it........different eyes see and different monitors show slightly different results so it is good to get a little feedback and a comparison.
I'll calibrate the monitor again..they can "shift" a bit........and maintaining the exact same lighting condition around the monitor at all times is nigh near impossible.
On the question of white balance, I keep mine turned off and use external filters as and when appropriate......I understand them more than I understand white balance.. :blush:
@ ss44.........it's one of these shots, isn't it. The left hand edge with the now pinky building is so much brighter that the main areas.....I might have been tempted to put a gentle ND Grad down that side.
@ scottiesmum.......thanks for the comments, and glad you found your word.. ;D
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Well, in the process of comparing the two, I've figured out how to have a split screen
Well I haven't........help. :-[
I also think that the house at the bottom with the upstairs rendering does have a slight pink tinge to it (on TD's edited one)
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I might have been tempted to put a gentle ND Grad down that side.
ND grads are on my To-do list, but not yet done. :-[
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I've found a software-based poor man's monitor calibration tool, and it did indicate that I needed to make a small adjustment to the red gamma. Having done so, I now see the cyan cast to which TD referred. I'm going to invest in a proper calibrator (
Spyder 2 probably).
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>> I'm going to invest in a proper calibrator <<
I quite like the little Pantone Huey.............accurate enough, and once it has calibrated if you leave it plugged in via an usb port it will continually adjust your monitor as the ambient light changes..............and reasonable cost at under £70.00
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Thanks for that suggestion. There is Linux software which is compatible with it so it is one I can use.
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Well, in the process of comparing the two, I've figured out how to have a split screen
Well I haven't........help. :-[
I also think that the house at the bottom with the upstairs rendering does have a slight pink tinge to it (on TD's edited one)
On the question of the split screen, unkyUb.
If you have two files open such as looking at one image in your browser and wanting to look at another image you have previously downloaded, the the browser window will probably overlay the opened image.
So, right click on an empty area in/on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen and from the pop-up menu select "tile vertically" or "tile horizontally" and the screen will "split" to show both pages..........when you are done, right click on the taskbar again and select "undo tile".
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Well, in the process of comparing the two, I've figured out how to have a split screen
Well I haven't........help. :-[
I also think that the house at the bottom with the upstairs rendering does have a slight pink tinge to it (on TD's edited one)
On the question of the split screen, unkyUb.
If you have two files open such as looking at one image in your browser and wanting to look at another image you have previously downloaded, the the browser window will probably overlay the opened image.
So, right click on an empty area in/on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen and from the pop-up menu select "tile vertically" or "tile horizontally" and the screen will "split" to show both pages..........when you are done, right click on the taskbar again and select "undo tile".
No tile vertically,or horizontally option :no:
Show windows side by side,show windows stacked,cascade windows,and show desktop ......that is what I get.
So how does that allow me to compare 2 images from different forum pages......
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>> I'm going to invest in a proper calibrator <<
I quite like the little Pantone Huey.............accurate enough, and once it has calibrated if you leave it plugged in via an usb port it will continually adjust your monitor as the ambient light changes..............and reasonable cost at under £70.00
I followed your suggestion and bought a Pantone Huey. The software I'm using with it has got more options than you can shake a stick at, but I've done a calibration/profile run using its default values, and it does seem to confirm your findings. The display is now a little brighter looking, and rather less red. I can see the difference when I reboot - initially the display comes up in its unprofiled mode, then the profile is read and it changes to the corrected mode, with a visible difference.
I appreciate your advice on this, TD. It's another little improvement. In another couple of hundred years my photographs will be perfect. :)
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@ roseway.........yvw....and :clap2: at the result.
@ unkyUb..........ah!, they have changed the wording.
show windows side by side equates to tile vertically.
show windows stacked equates to tile horizontally.
I don't think you can use this facility to show two different pages of a website in your browser............it works when looking at two files on your desktop.
So when comparing photos, for example, I think you have to download and save them....then open one and minimse it to the taskbar, open the second one (normally of course you can only view one at a time)......then do the tile thing and the two will open side by side or one under the other depending on which tile you opted for.
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Thanks TD.........I understand what you mean now :doh:
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I have just noticed an option in Opera browser that lets you tile tabs.....
So...........open Opera..open Kitz Forum and navigate to photograph number 1.
Open new tab and navigate as above to photograph number 2 in the same thread.
Only one tab will display, the other being minimised.
Right click on the "hidden" tab then click on "arrange" and there are the tile options....click on (example) "tile vertically" and the two tabs open side by side in the same window....woohooo.. :thumbs:
To get out of the tile arrangement, close one tab and in the remaining tab go to the top right hand corner of the window and click on the normal "maximise" button.
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You could open two separate browser windows, log into the forum on each one and then tile them.
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Yes........tabs or windows...
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Have tried Eric's way and that works :thumbs:
And tried TD's way and that also works..... :thumbs:
Thank you :)
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Thank you for the question, unkyUb...........without it I would never have played around and found these options. :blush:
Guess what I'll be doing all day... :D
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Yes thank you all. I have now got something to play with also. I have tried similar with FF but I can't do it. Much easier with Opera.
My preferred browser. :)
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I'm glad I passed this little problem over to you guys...I really new the answer,but I just thought it would give you something to do... ::) :D
I am now browsing using Chrome.....Thats 3 browsers in just over a hour ;D
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I think Scottiesmum deserves some credit as she started the whole thing off.
I've never fancied Chrome. What do you think of it UncleUB.
Sorry to go OT.
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I've never fancied Chrome. What do you think of it UncleUB
I like it very much...it is quick to load web pages and updates just seem to integrate seamlessly.I found it strange at first as there isn't no book marks sidebar,but there is a book marks bar that sits just under the address bar.
You can add various apps/extensions from the Gooogle Chrome webstore,overall it rate it very highly.
I also use Firefox and Opera,but rarely use IE9
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The difference maybe because I use Linux and I believe chrome is designed more around Windows.
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I had split screen by opening two windows .... Sorry Unc I didn't see your query about it ................ or I would have told you :lol:
PS. Firefox have a split screen add-on, but it doesn't work - yet - with FF5.
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PS. Firefox have a split screen add-on, but it doesn't work - yet - with FF5.
I don't think it ever will unfortunately - the addons site says that it's no longer supported. :(
However there's a new experimental addon called Tile View which seems to do the job. I've installed it, and I managed to get my Chilham photo and TD's modified version showing side by side.
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Thanks for that Eric .... I noted that the designer of the Splitter screen add-on is Japanese ... I expect he/she has enough problems at the moment :(
I'll have a look at the Tile View. :)
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Eric, I've installed the Tile View .... it works a treat !! thank you
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There are several layouts available ..excellent little add-on :)
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That was quick. :)
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I'm very agile :lol: