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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: adslmax on April 14, 2019, 11:33:40 PM
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I thought Plusnet profile are speed (as it showed mine as standard) my parents line is on speed profile. Do u think I should raise this to Plusnet and asked them to put me on speed profile.
I fetch these detail via this link: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/totl.input
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The BT Wholesale "Standard" DLM policy is the same as the OpenReach "Speed" DLM policy.
You're already on the Speed profile.
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Not sure that your interpretation is correct j0hn.
My line shows as speed.
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I thought Plusnet profile are speed (as it showed mine as standard) my parents line is on speed profile. Do u think I should raise this to Plusnet and asked them to put me on speed profile.
Why would you want the same speed with less stability? FTTC is capped at 80 and you are already on it.
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Mine is also speed
Downstream DLM Profile Cap 80Mbit/s
DLM Policy Speed
Last Observed Date 2019-04-14
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Do u think I should raise this to Plusnet
If it is raised with PN, they will be wanting to know how you got that info and you can bet access to information will be closed.
As jelv said FTTC is capped at 80 and I doubt it would make much difference to your line.
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I want my line to be at speed to get prioritise speed over stability for online gamers because standard are best overall balance between speed and stability.
I can ask PN what are my line DLM policy are eg: speed, standard or stable. Won't metion them of this link. The link don't work anymore as it asked for login and password cos I got the link from someone over at ThinkBroadband Forum but I think MrSaffron might reported this to BT but I did notice BT warning below:
WARNING: You have accessed a system managed by BT. You are required to have authorisation from BT before you proceed and you are strictly limited to the use set out within that authorisation which is set out in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide titled ADSL checker service provider usage document. Unauthorised access to or misuse of this system is prohibited and constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act 1990. If you disclose any information obtained through this system without authority BT may take legal action against you. Only proceed if you are authorised to.
The information contained in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide includes instructions which are contractual instructions pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (b) of the Conditions of BT Datastream and BT IPstream Service as applicable.
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My cabinet is full now on waiting list
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The BT Wholesale "Standard" DLM policy is the same as the OpenReach "Speed" DLM policy.
You're already on the Speed profile.
Plusnet tech support told me my line is on the stable by BTw and standard by Openreach (21/08/18) to stable my line because of last DLM removed banded last summer (standard by BTw and speed by Openreach as of 20/08/18) and PN can't put my line back on speed profile due to DLM policy on the line to keep my line at maximum stable.
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Not sure that your interpretation is correct j0hn.
My line shows as speed.
Looks like you're right.
I read BT Wholesale and assumed it to be 1 of their checkers, using their terminology.
I'm also showing as the Speed DLM policy.
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I remember back to last year my ping always no higher than 8 to 9ms and now it 17/18ms higher ping.
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I remember back to last year my ping always no higher than 8 to 9ms and now it 17/18ms higher ping.
The DLM policy being Speed or Standard has no bearing on your latency.
Only interleaving would add latency.
Low interleaving adds 8ms delay.
Your line has G.INP/ReTx so there's nothing DLM related adding to your ping times.
17/18ms is very high for your part of the country.
Do you have a ThinkBroadband BQM running?
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Do you have a ThinkBroadband BQM running?
Yes indeed. Here is mine BQM: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/d3e60413fe4ce714d2eff50230f56fe7210244e6
Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.437]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\W7>ping msn.co.uk
Pinging msn.co.uk [13.82.28.61] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 13.82.28.61:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
C:\Users\W7>
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Your ping time from the BQM is about 9-10ms.
C:\Users\W7>ping msn.co.uk
msn.co.uk isn't responding to pings.
Try pinging bbc.co.uk
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Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.437]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\W7>ping bbc.co.uk
Pinging bbc.co.uk [151.101.64.81] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 151.101.64.81:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms
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how are you guys getting this info? BTw checker shows nothing for me like that.
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how are you guys getting this info?
In his opening post Max mentioned the following link --
I fetch these detail via this link: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/totl.input
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I assume you must be a PlusNet customer to access that then?
When I try, it asks me for a Email/Password.
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I think we late to the game dee.jay, sorry for missing that on his first post.
Adslmax, I am on the standard profile as well, all it does is it reduces the thresholds required for DLM stability action to be taken when the line is unstable. It has the same dlsam profiles available to it as the speed profile and I am indeed on fast path and unbanded (with standard profile), so dont panic.
If your line is bad enough that on standard DLM will take action, its probably also bad enough that at some point you would be DLM'd on speed as well anyway it just might take longer to hit a bad enough day thats all.
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I assume you must be a PlusNet customer to access that then?
When I try, it asks me for a Email/Password.
No, nothing to do with your ISP.
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All I will say is there is a link that worked for a while but now it asks for a login. As max said in his post above
The link don't work anymore as it asked for login and password cos I got the link from someone over at ThinkBroadband Forum but I think MrSaffron might reported this to BT but I did notice BT warning below:
WARNING: You have accessed a system managed by BT. You are required to have authorisation from BT before you proceed and you are strictly limited to the use set out within that authorisation which is set out in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide titled ADSL checker service provider usage document. Unauthorised access to or misuse of this system is prohibited and constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act 1990. If you disclose any information obtained through this system without authority BT may take legal action against you. Only proceed if you are authorised to.
The information contained in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide includes instructions which are contractual instructions pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (b) of the Conditions of BT Datastream and BT IPstream Service as applicable.
Those of us that were able to access were not previously given that warning, and in view of the circumstances I think it's best not to discuss further on this forum or encourage others to circumvent the Computer Misuse Act.
Thanks for your understanding.
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All I will say is there is a link that worked for a while but now it asks for a login. As max said in his post above
Those of us that were able to access were not previously given that warning, and in view of the circumstances I think it's best not to discuss further on this forum or encourage others to circumvent the Computer Misuse Act.
Thanks for your understanding.
Agreed, very sensible.
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Doesn't reflect well on BT securing their websites correctly!
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Computer Misuse Act mean penalty for breaking the law was changed to 14 years imprisonment, a large fine, or both depending on the severity of the offence. :no: :o
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I wouldn't panic about accessing it. There was no warning before, so you cannot be charged for committing any crime under the Computer Misuse Act.
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It's doesn't work now as it ask for login / password etc. Yeah you are right as there is no warning before as the warning only appear if you log out.
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Special punishment for max. Instead of up to 14 years, his line will never sync at 80 Mbps again and no FTTP by 2033.
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Note
Because it had been brought to my attention that using that "Unauthorised access to or misuse of this system is prohibited and constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act 1990" etc. I'd already said I think it's best not to discuss further on this forum or encourage others to circumvent the Computer Misuse Act.
Bear in mind that there may well be an audit trail either of the IP addresses from where the system was logged in and the phone numbers accessed.
I agree that it is doubtful that they would take action against those of us who did access it without warning.
However, once it had been made aware that to me that unauthorised use is prohibited, then it would be negligent to allow the conversation to continue on the forum which could be construed as encouraging others to use it. I did ask nicely, but because I've now had to remove a post, it's probably best that I lock the topic.
Cheers.