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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: William Grimsley on April 15, 2016, 04:52:57 PM

Title: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: William Grimsley on April 15, 2016, 04:52:57 PM
Hi everyone,

I've always wondered, why does a DLM resync result in ES on the Billion BiPAC 8800NL? Is it something to do with the line or is it the router?
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: skyeci on April 15, 2016, 05:53:52 PM
My 8800nl always had a high es on the upstream after g.inp was applied. I believe this lead to me losing g.inp in the end. I raised this with billion who advised to use the older dm2 version which cured the upstream es but mine then developed high ds es so not really sure that was a fix really being on an eci cab. Still without g.inp since the 8th april.

Perhaps its a firmware issue..
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: NewtronStar on April 15, 2016, 07:35:07 PM
My HG612 shows a large spike of errored seconds during a Resync so I take this to be a normal anomaly 
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: William Grimsley on April 15, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
It just seems to only fix itself it you manually power down and power it up. It's just annoying to see lots of ES and you can't remember which ES are "real" and which aren't...
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: skyeci on April 15, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
It just seems to only fix itself it you manually power down and power it up. It's just annoying to see lots of ES and you can't remember which ES are "real" and which aren't...

Have you tried the dm2 firmware for  comparison?
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: William Grimsley on April 15, 2016, 08:17:53 PM
It's not the same issue as you, I only get Downstream ES after a resync...
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: underzone on April 15, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
It's not the same issue as you, I only get Downstream ES after a resync...

Plus Mr. Grimsley is on a Huawei cab... So the latest standard 8800NL firmware may suit well.
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: aesmith on April 19, 2016, 02:45:31 PM
It just seems to only fix itself it you manually power down and power it up. It's just annoying to see lots of ES and you can't remember which ES are "real" and which aren't...

Don't you have a "Reset" option on the router, under Status/Statistics/xDSL?
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: Chrysalis on April 19, 2016, 06:39:42 PM
my 8800nl doesnt have ES on a resync.

But then again I never just resync it, I pull the power, wait 30 mins, and power it up again.
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: kitz on April 21, 2016, 10:11:46 PM
I think its fairly common on a lot of modems.

Its something that Ive noticed for many years that any type of resync can cause CRCs /Errored seconds.
May be something to do with the training phase I dont know for certain.

When I was on adsl I never ever got any CRCs/Errored seconds - except during thunderstorms and always about 8 CRCs (which ultimately result in E/S being recorded) during a retrain.
Title: Re: Why Does A DLM Resync Result In ES On The Billion BiPAC 8800NL?
Post by: PhilipD on April 23, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
Hi

I would expect error'd seconds during a resync, as that counter is counting each second a problem is seen during that period of time, and having no sync at all is considered an error, as the normal status quo is to be sync'd.

Some firmwares may reset that counter after a re-sync, but I think that is wrong as it then mis-reports 0 error'd seconds, when in reality we might have been sat trying to get to a web page for the last 30 seconds and failing because it was re-syncing.  A re-sync is a big error in my book, I'd expect it reflected in the stats.

Regards

Phil