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Title: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 10, 2018, 07:36:17 AM
No: I've not booked a flight to Switzerland to "die with dignity". Dignity would be very out of character. ;D

Rather, at last, I'm going FTTC, supposedly on 23 April delayed from 16th. There's no nail biting on that! The symptoms of onychophagia I'm currently suffering are because we have both an ECI and a Huawei cab. :-\ :D

[Moderator edited to change £CI to ECI.]
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: Ronski on April 10, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
As long as the Huawei is live you should end up on that, it will be interesting to find out which one you end up on  though :fingers:
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: tubaman on April 10, 2018, 10:44:59 AM
I had to look up that big word  :-[ - do try not to bite them all off!
Fingers crossed you get the Huawei. :fingers:
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 10, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
As long as the Huawei is live you should end up on that, it will be interesting to find out which one you end up on  though :fingers:
It's been there since  October '16 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,18678.msg335215.html#msg335215) so I hope it is, as CodeLook also says expanded Jan '17.
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 10, 2018, 11:13:19 AM
I had to look up that big word  :-[ - do try not to bite them all off!
Fingers crossed you get the Huawei. :fingers:
"So, there are more than one of who has a dictionary in the house" Uttered in my best Beattie voice. ;)
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: Ronski on April 10, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
I had to also look up that word,  via Google.
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: tubaman on April 10, 2018, 01:14:36 PM
I had to also look up that word,  via Google.

I too use Google as my dictionary of choice.
 :)
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: burakkucat on April 10, 2018, 06:11:29 PM
Rather, at last, I'm going FTTC, supposedly on 23 April delayed from 16th.

The inevitable questions . . .

With which ISP/CP? What CPE (if any) will the ISP/CP provide? Which underlying Openreach product? (18/2, 40/2, 40/10, 55/10 or 80/20 Mbps DS/US?)
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 10, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
The inevitable questions . . .

With which ISP/CP? What CPE (if any) will the ISP/CP provide? Which underlying Openreach product? (18/2, 40/2, 40/10, 55/10 or 80/20 Mbps DS/US?)

Plusnet; 40/10; Plusnet Hub One, but opted out of, as I believe it's not great though  dual band., and i have the Billion 8800NL
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: burakkucat on April 10, 2018, 11:03:49 PM
I would, by instinct, decline any ISP/CP provided equipment. The Plusnet Hub One is just a re-badged BT Home Hub, so it's nothing special.

As for using the Billion 8800NL it is important to remember to configure a VLAN, tagged as 101. Otherwise it is quite straightforward to set up for a FTTC service (so I'm told).
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 11, 2018, 10:33:33 AM
I've already taken note of PN's set up instructions.  ;)
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: kitz on April 11, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
0o00 welcome to the dark side  :)

Whilst I can understand the nail-biting for ECI v Huawei at the end of the day, the speeds should still be better than ADSL.  What connection speed do Openreach anticipate for your line?
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 12, 2018, 12:13:40 AM
Code: [Select]
                      High Low High  Low
VDSL Range A (Clean) 40 27.4 7.8 5.3 22.4
VDSL Range B (Impacted) 30.1 16.5 7.2 3.6 13.1
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: burakkucat on April 12, 2018, 12:56:03 AM
So taking the "High"s from the "(Clean)" and the "Low"s from the "(Impacted)" we see ranges from 16.5 to 40 Mbps DS and from 3.6 to 7.8 Mbps US.
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 12, 2018, 06:37:53 AM
and? What's your thinking, please? Premier feline of this house! :)
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: burakkucat on April 12, 2018, 05:21:56 PM
My thinking is as follows: 

If your new service has a measured DS/US throughput which is within those ranges then the service will be deemed as operating "as expected".
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 12, 2018, 06:03:46 PM
It's quite a wide margin; isn't it. I'd hope toward the top end of either range. I know it doesn't mean much, but it has been commented ,that my line is as good as it gets, since I revamped with a SSFP and moved the test socket. The ex BT man who did the work said he found no external fault too.

It's all FWW, but unless there's something nasty twixt DP and me, I'd hope for a good outcome.
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: burakkucat on April 12, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
There is a little nagging thought in the back of my mind . . . and that is your DIG (direct in ground) service feed back to the DP seems to have more joints than cable!

Having recently had that internal wiring re-vamp you could optimistically expect to achieve throughput within the "(Clean)" range. However your new ISP will not be aware of that fact and will probably work from the "(Impacted)" range.
Title: Re: Passing over soon
Post by: renluop on April 12, 2018, 07:52:06 PM
Did I mention "my new ISP"? :-\ As to joints from DP to me, AFAIR  from where I believe the DP to be to me, is that put in some years ago, when had trouble. i think there are more on the cable that runs up the other side of the road from which my close branches from.

We'll have to wait and see. :D