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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: Chunkers on March 03, 2016, 11:05:35 AM

Title: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 03, 2016, 11:05:35 AM
Can any of you clever people help me get my VMG8324 to tell the time?  I can muck about with the UI as much as I like and hammer Apply but it still thinks its 2015.  Maybe something to do with the fact that it is in bridge mode? I dunno.

Anyways, perhaps there is something clever I can do via CLI or something?  I can't seem to find an option to put in the time manually via the UI, I'm running 1.00(AAKL.12)C0 firmware.

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe352%2FJolltax%2FCrap%2FTime_zpsv7y06iax.jpg&hash=ceb0ea4dfbf8b9824fd28199a2b6e448884c41cc)

Wub you

Chunks
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 03, 2016, 01:25:17 PM
Go to  Maintenance > Time to set the date & time.

Details Chapter 35 Time Settings,page 301 of manual.



Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 03, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Go to  Maintenance > Time to set the date & time.

Details Chapter 35 Time Settings,page 301 of manual.

Correct on both counts, unfortunately I had already checked the manual and visited the page you reference, in fact in my post above which you quoted I actually show a picture of exactly this screen and also explain that I don't seem to be able to find any way to manually enter the time.

I am sure I am doing something wrong, but simply quoting me RTFM isn't going to help much.

Chunks
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 03, 2016, 05:38:02 PM
 :-[

I didn't see that image on my phone, but can now I'm home on pc.
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 03, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
:-[

I didn't see that image on my phone, but can now I'm home on pc.

No worries dude, I appreciate you were trying to help me out, thanks

I have been googling CLI commands but I haven't been able to find them and I know there are some peeps on here that know that stuff :)

Chunks
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 03, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13669.0

http://tjworld.net/wiki/Zyxel/VDSL_IAD

Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 03, 2016, 09:19:18 PM
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13669.0

http://tjworld.net/wiki/Zyxel/VDSL_IAD

Hooray!

For the record :

1) I telnet into it at 192.168.1.2
2) I login to CLI as admin
3) I invoke BusyBox (whatever that is) using : echo && bash
4) I use 'date' Applet to change the time : busybox date -s 2016.03.03-21:05

Spudoink!  :cool:

Proof :

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe352%2FJolltax%2FCrap%2Ftimeagain_zpsebb7tlnn.jpg&hash=ea4ceaf6dfcf87db2b407f6ed2d701819ccd05c5)

Just goes to show, blindly following instructions without knowing what you are doing can yield results, Hurrah!  Imagine what other random fun I can have playing with the CLI, hehe

Thanks KIAB!

Chunks
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 03, 2016, 09:35:06 PM
Sucess. ;D

Blind leading the blind,  :D, way out my depth with CLI.
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: youngsyp on March 04, 2016, 10:59:50 AM

Yeah, sure! The link is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72648012/V100AAKL11C0.zip
Many thanks.

I went with the most recent firmware in the end. I have the issue with the scheduler too in that it appears to keep the scheduler active despite the the scheduled period expiring. I too set this to switch the wireless off. However, I can just stop the scheduler manually and re-activate the wireless function manually without having to reboot the gateway. Far from idea of course. Hope they fix this in a future FW release as it's a very useful feature.

Re-synced the 8924 last night (when my SNRM is highest oddly) and I'm hitting 18803Kb/s on the down link. Previous best with my trusty 7800N Billion was 18035Kb/s. Love this device!

Paul
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2016, 11:44:04 AM
Sorry, bit late on this as I notice you have found a solution, but I thought it may be worth posting in case anyone else is having difficulty setting time. 
Im not using bridge mode, but these are my settings from within the GUI, which work for me:-


I use the IP addresses for NTP servers at mcc.ac.uk & london.telehouse. 

130.88.203.12
194.164.127.6 

That way if DNS isnt working - or if the router attempts to get time before DNS is allocated - then it should still be able to access a time server.

iirc by default it attempts to get time from various listed ntp servers - Im quite certain that my default was set to tummy.com.  I found that when looking at my logs there used to be long lists of synchronising with tummy and sunsynchronising with tummy.com at various times which appeared to have nothing to do with me rebooting or resyncing the modem.

Since putting in the IP addresses I only get the synchronised messages after I've reconnected and Ive never had to set anything within the CLI for anything time related.     
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 04, 2016, 12:07:30 PM
Thanks for that Kitz.

Just had my VM8924-B10A arrive :), no wall bracket in the box. :(

Will set it up this evening when I have more time.


Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 04, 2016, 12:32:30 PM

I use the IP addresses for NTP servers at mcc.ac.uk & london.telehouse. 

130.88.203.12
194.164.127.6 

That way if DNS isnt working - or if the router attempts to get time before DNS is allocated - then it should still be able to access a time server.


Your way is much better than my sledgehammer CLI method, I'll give it a try too :)

EDIT : Oh dear, nm

Quote from: My stupid router
2016-03-04T12:35:05 (none) daemon.notice NTP: Unsynchronized with clock.via.net
2016-03-04T12:34:58 (none) daemon.warn Sec_Account: last message repeated 5 times in 5 seconds

It has an IP on my network 192.168.1.2 but maybe I have it set up wrong so it can't see the WAN?  Hmmmm .....

Chunks
Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
Quote
EDIT : Oh dear, nm

Oh dear indeed.  :(
Sorry Im out of suggestions.   Its an old habit (preference) of mine that I always use those same settings whenever I set up a router no matter what make/model (http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/TD-W9980_System_Tools). 

It may be an idea if when KIAB sets his up if he leaves it at the default of what I think was tummy and see if his router picks up time ok.   
If KIAB's works straight out of the box and assuming he isnt putting it into bridge mode, then it possibly may be something to do with chunkers' being bridged?   



Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2016, 01:45:35 PM
hmmmm

Saying that just as an experiment I switched mine back to tummy.com and took out my custom settings.    It seems ok for me here.

Code: [Select]
2016 Mar 4 13:38:40 NTP notice Synchronized with ntp1.tummy.com
2 2016 Mar 4 13:38:40 Account warn last message repeated 1 times in 8 seconds

I'll leave it set like this and see if I have any problems

My current settings are:
ntp1.tummy.com as 1st, and time.nist.gov as 2nd.


----
ETA

I'll split this off into its own thread as its time specific rather than new firmware related, so deserves its own topic. :)

Title: Re: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 04, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Quote
EDIT : Oh dear, nm

Oh dear indeed.  :(
Sorry Im out of suggestions.   Its an old habit (preference) of mine that I always use those same settings whenever I set up a router no matter what make/model (http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/TD-W9980_System_Tools). 

It may be an idea if when KIAB sets his up if he leaves it at the default of what I think was tummy and see if his router picks up time ok.   
If KIAB's works straight out of the box and assuming he isnt putting it into bridge mode, then it possibly may be something to do with chunkers' being bridged?

Won't be until about 8pm tonight, might be later, has I'm all behind today with other things, had I known the structural engineer wasn't going to turn up today, I would have done it this morning.

Title: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Chunkers on March 04, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
I am guessing its the way I have my network settings, I have set a separate interface for WAN bridge so possibly there is no route to the internet to access a time server?

How have you guys set up your interfaces?

(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe352%2FJolltax%2Finterface_zpsvemmxpsi.jpg&hash=307234c2cccdcc7f801868381616275cc59a3eea)

I probably messed this up, is my bet

Chunks
Title: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: kitz on March 04, 2016, 11:15:55 PM
The main reason I bought the VMG8324 is I was specifically looking for an all in one unit to do everything I wanted, in order to cut down on network clutter and plug socket use, so I'm using the default interface and Im not in bridged mode.

However Chrys did with his, and on his suggestion I did a tutorial based on his settings and observations :-  VMG8324 Bridge mode (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm) which is how he got everything working.

Theres a screen shot here (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/images/zyxelbridgefix.png) which shows the settings he used in this thread (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14505.45.html)
Title: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: KIAB on March 05, 2016, 08:43:20 AM

Going to set up Zyxel VMG8924 shortly, need coffee first, was just too tired last night.

Do you know if the 8924 comes with a wall bracket  as standard, as I didn't get one, despite it being shown in manual.
Title: Re: ZyXel VMG8324-B10A - Time settings
Post by: Dave974 on June 03, 2016, 11:02:20 PM
Just been searching for a way to set the time and came across this thread.

I'm in bridge mode too, I've also got an interface group so I can recover line stats.
It's a good point that's made about internet access, as I'm on ( I'm sure most of us are) PPOE which requires a username and P-word to gain access to the internet

(The more I think about it the more I feel this has answered my question)
 
PPOE option is removed in bridge mode as it's acting as a gateway to my router.
thinking out loud here but
The interface group only separates the LAN ports so you can gain access to the router GUI and telnet but still has no internet access. Hmmmm
So in reality does the time matter? ???

Going to set up Zyxel VMG8924 shortly, need coffee first, was just too tired last night.

Do you know if the 8924 comes with a wall bracket  as standard, as I didn't get one, despite it being shown in manual.

Are there 2 elongated slots in the rear? if so and you get stuck, PM me as I have a spare (sent router for warranty repair last month and they sent a brand new router with all the kit in the box)