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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: Howlingwolf on July 31, 2014, 10:34:19 PM
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Note by Admin: If you are looking for the latest firmware version that works with G.INP then you need B030SP08
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The latest version has been 'On Test' for about a week now and seems fairly stable.
Repository: https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w
Each different version now has it's own subdirectory and the following filename format:
- <version>_original is the original, unmodified (locked) build as extracted.
- <version>_unlocked is the basic unlocked build. The only changes to this have been to restore local telnet access.
- <version>_webgui is identical to the unlocked build above with the web interface restored.
Also included is:
- Tools and Patches subdirectory containing Asbokid's tools rebuilt for x86 (32bit) architecture and the 'patch set' needed to recreate the unlocked firmwares.
- GPL Sourcecode subdirectory containing the current versions of the obvious. The B028SP10 Variations subdirectory contains the B028SP10 sourcecode released by BT and Huawei in September 2011. These are substantially different from each other and the current release.
(I went to get a link to these for someone recently and discovered that Huawei's 'support facility' was down yet again so I'm providing them here for anyone who wants them along with the 'bearded weirdies' from 2011.)
Notes:
Reading through some of the older threads I'd missed while I was otherwise occupied, it's fairly obvious that there were simply too many different builds of the last firmware version. This led to confusion over which one to use and more recently, whether the latest update had or would be received.
Going forward there will be two builds, and ONLY two builds, for each firmware version as detailed above. These will contain the minimum necessary changes to achieve the specific objective.
In all builds, BTAgent will remain untouched and still active. However in builds which include the web interface, it will be neutered by disabling it's VLAN.
This can be re-enabled through the web interface by going to Basic --> WAN.
- Select ptm1.301 under Connection Name.
- In the config panel below that, Enable 'WAN connection' and submit.
This will give people the choice. Enable it to receive updates or disable it to prevent them.
With hindsight it was probably a mistake to disable or strip BTAgent and the associated config settings in the way I did. I was trying to avoid the proliferation of different versions and this almost certainly led to what I think was a mistake with the patch files.
In any case, the best option was to start again from a clean baseline which is what I've done. I've rebuilt the B030SP06 firmwares and there are now only two unlocked versions.
{Links and obsolete repository details removed}
In both of the new versions, BTAgent is untouched and still active. However in the version with the web interface it has been neutered by disabling it's VLAN.
This can be re-enabled through the web interface by going to Basic --> WAN.
- Select ptm1.301 under Connection Name.
- In the config panel below that, Enable 'WAN connection' and submit.
This will give people the choice. Enable it to receive updates or disable it to prevent them.
Hopefully this should address the issues some people have raised surrounding updates.
I'm sorry for all the confusion and I promise I'll try to do better with the next one.
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edited by Admin to add date to topic title and sticky the post
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Many thanks again HW.
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Howdy
Are any of these firmwares optimised for ADSL vs VDSL? :)
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Howdy
Are any of these firmwares optimised for ADSL vs VDSL? :)
Erm...
I would assume they're optimised for VDSL2 as Openreach had them customised for their 'Fibre to the Curb' service (BT Infinity, etc).
I've certainly not altered anything which might change that.
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Thank you HW. Nice work :)
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Thanks Kitz.
Of course, if I'd done it properly in the first place... :-[
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Do you need the Firewall On, if the router (Acus-ac66u) as it on. I usually just disable the modem firewall and use the router one.
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two firewalls is likely to lead to problems, but personally I would suggest disabling the router firewall and using the modem one, because the closer the firewall is to the point of entry, or 'border gateway' in networking terms, the less potential foothold there is.
That said, I have a completely unprotected modem and a dedicated hardware firewall behind it.
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Which mode is the modem operating in???
In bridged mode with the router handling pppoe, packets from the external network are passed straight through to the router which becomes the 'point of entry' referred to above. This is the default operating mode for FTTC (BT Infinity, etc.)
It's worth noting that there's no 'direct' access to the modem from the internet when operating in this mode except via BT's VLAN (ptm1.301). The modem firewall only controls local access via LAN2 and probably remote access via BT's VLAN as well.
In routed mode with the modem handling pppoe, it becomes the 'point of entry' and it's firewall controls access to everything.
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Which mode is the modem operating in???
In bridged mode with the router handling pppoe, packets from the external network are passed straight through to the router which becomes the 'point of entry' referred to above. This is the default operating mode for FTTC (BT Infinity, etc.)
It's worth noting that there's no 'direct' access to the modem from the internet when operating in this mode except via BT's VLAN (ptm1.301). The modem firewall only controls local access via LAN2 and probably remote access via BT's VLAN as well.
In routed mode with the modem handling pppoe, it becomes the 'point of entry' and it's firewall controls access to everything.
yeah the router handles the pppoe so i disabled the firewall on modem
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Just a thought, Wolfy............
If it's not too late & if you are are still fine tuning the GUI firmware, would it be possible to correct the mixed up FEC/HEC/CRC issue in the GUI, ensuring the same values as reported via the xdslcmd info --stats command are displayed?
Cheers,
BE1
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Just a thought, Wolfy............
If it's not too late & if you are are still fine tuning the GUI firmware, would it be possible to correct the mixed up FEC/HEC/CRC issue in the GUI, ensuring the same values as reported via the xdslcmd info --stats command are displayed?
Cheers,
BE1
Thats a good point BE1 but wondering if this would require a major overhaul :-\
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I'm not going to make anymore changes to the current builds before releasing them but I can certainly look into it for you.
Whether I'll able to do anything about it is another question. Many of the web interface's 'factual' errors seem to originate somewhere in one of the underlying layers.
Can you show me what it should be showing as opposed to what it is actually showing?
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It muddles up the values, so the correct values are shown (IIRC), but next to the wrong labels if that makes sense. Although I couldn't tell you which way round they should go.
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It does indeed :)
If it is just the labels then that should be fairly easy to correct. I will need to know precisely what each value is and what it should be called of course.
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The Eagle knoweth. ::)
I thought I had read one of his posts, earlier today, where he attempts to explain the "mess and muddle". :-\
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The Eagle knoweth. ::)
The Eagle kneweth but has forgotteth.
Since the latest BT software update I have managed without the HG612's GUI so I can't check at the moment.
Also, as DLM was only reset via a visiting engineer on Saturday, following replacement of my faceplate & NTE5 that were damaged during fairly recent thunder/lightning storms, I'm monitoring how my connection copes & don't wish to disturb things by forcing a resync via a firmware update at this time.
Someone still with a GUI could maybe cross-reference the GUI values & the values shown in the xdslcmd info --stats data & confirm which are incorrect in the GUI?.
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I did take a brief look at that myself but the matching xdslcmd values seem to be scattered about and in at least one case has a totally different label.
So I await enlightenment from Those Who Know :)
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Here is a fast path example The GUI FEC looks like is is really CRC
The GUI HEC is the same as the dslstats HEC
If someone with interleaving can post the same it might help.
from gui
CRC errors 0 0 0 0
FEC errors 2017 40 0 0
HEC errors 508 0 0 0
from dslstats
FEC: 0 352
CRC: 2017 40
ES: 446 38
SES: 1 0
UAS: 25 25
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
(corrected HEC interpretation 06/08/2014)
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Hi,
Is there any way I can force the HG612 to set at a lower s/n. The VDSL2 cabinet is consistently on 6.3DB and rock solid, and by lowering to 3DB I may be able to get maximum speed. I am 490 metres from the DSLAM.
Have tried using DSL stats to force lower s/n, but does not work.
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It can't be done on a BT VDSL2 connection.
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It can't be done on a BT VDSL2 connection.
Hi,
Many thanks.
Rgds.
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I dont understand, what was wrong with removing BT agent?
I have the no btagent version and its been great. I preferably want a firmware where it is removed.
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I dont understand, what was wrong with removing BT agent?
nothings wrong with the BT agent removed it's just the modem won't get the latest firmware, as with any software and devices these days any update is better than none, just like a windows update it's supposed to fix & close a security hole.
You see 90% of the general public with an FTTC modem don't care wether it's unlocked with GUI or with or without BT Agent active so we as the minority can choose what to do with are modem.
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The whole idea of removing the bt agent tho is so it wont update, did people really complain about it not updating when they chose the non bt agent?
I havent updated yet and I wont without a BT agent removed firmware or if I am forced to by openreach :)
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The whole idea of removing the bt agent tho is so it wont update, did people really complain about it not updating when they chose the non bt agent?
That's were we have a difference of opinion CHRY you seem to think the BT Agent is a bad thing were as any firmware updates from the BT Agent has been more positive than the older firmware apart from each time its updated the HG612 own GUI disappears that is very annoying to say the least >:(
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I am just asking who requested it be removed, seems odd there is no "no btagent" version. I would like the choice back thats all. Although I guess I could just start autokilling it again, messier but worked ok on the first version.
and yes of course I am no fan of automatic firmware updating, I update my modem when I am ready :)
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Nothing wrong with deciding when you want to update, however you must remember that in this case we are all depending on the efforts of one particular member to make that even possible.
To quote from HW's original post in this thread:-
In both of the new versions, BTAgent is untouched and still active. However in the version with the web interface it has been neutered by disabling it's VLAN.
This can be re-enabled through the web interface by going to Basic --> WAN.
- Select ptm1.301 under Connection Name.
- In the config panel below that, Enable 'WAN connection' and submit.
This will give people the choice. Enable it to receive updates or disable it to prevent them.
So you still have the choice - auto update or not. What's the big deal?
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Its not a massive deal, I just prefer it removed.
Of course to me its also not a big deal to update the firmware so I am staying on the older one anyway.
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I dont understand, what was wrong with removing BT agent?
There were several issues.
Primarily, there were too many different builds and people were already confused over which one to use. A situation which would have become exponentially worse with the release of multiple builds for each new version.
It was that proliferation which led to the wrong patch file being applied to one of the BTAgent builds, resulting in it being neutered by completely removing it's VLAN. Effectively turning it into a bodged NoBTAgent build.
Hence my decision to start again with a 'clean slate', limiting this and all future releases to two builds. One with and one without a web interface.
I havent updated yet and I wont without a BT agent removed firmware or if I am forced to by openreach :)
That's entirely up to you. No one is going to force you to run around wearing a sou'wester and wellies in this sort of weather... :-\
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ok thanks for the explanation.
are we sure that disabling that vlan neuters it? I remember reading some posts somewhere where people had disabled the vlan but their firmware still got updated, they were only able to prevent the updating by killing the btagent process.
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That's part of what led to my decision.
Unfortunately there's no way of telling what happened. Whether it was misconfigured, a bad build or something else.
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Many Thanks HW have been able to download bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui-1407000358
and flash the HG612 and the GUI is back again ;D
Should I disable the btagent from the HG612's own GUI incase BT move me back to the none GUI firmware ?
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BTAgent can't be disabled via the web interface which is why I took the opportunity to reduce the size of the webimg file by removing the non-functional BTAgent tab and associated 'bits'.
In the '_webgui' build it should be neutered by default.
Anyway, the new release is now available and I've reorganised the repository as I mentioned earlier. One thing did occur to me while I was doing it - and you really, really don't have to answer this...
... Were you set to folder view or details view :angel:
PS: We need an 'innocent' smiley
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Cheers HW
I know it's to late for the HG612 error count fix (Incorrect errors in under wrong label)
Now that I have the GUI back with your firmware the FEC: errors should be CRC's and the CRC: label should actually be RSUnCorr errors the HEC lable is correct.
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An easily confused kiiteh needs to ask which directory contains the latest firmware, please. ???
Is it B030SP06? Or is it B030SP08?
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An easily confused kiiteh needs to ask which directory contains the latest firmware, please. ???
Is it B030SP06? Or is it B030SP08?
The lastest version is B030SP08 thats the one that has been vistiting most FTTC routers in the last month or so.
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Thank you N*Star. :)
After downloading both sets and comparing with earlier firmware images that I have safely stored away, I was able to deduce that the B030SP08 set contains the latest images.
I've now flashed my HG612 with the Unlocked Webgui image and will attempt to find the time to test it on a 1.5 metre local loop. (I have a Planet VC-230N configured in CO mode and use it as the equivalent of a one-port DSLAM.)
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i really wanted to update to this new version but what is worrying me is every time the modem is rebooted , even if its been up over a month with no problems , it raises the interleave even higher .
( im at 1021 / imp 3 now ).
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Using the steps 1 to 17 from reset to entering the modem login and password, what I have noticed missing is to remove the DSL cable after powering off the HG612 and then insert the DSL cable back in after all the steps have been completed and hopefully 30 minutes have passed since powering off the HG612.
So basically don't update the HG612's firmware while the DSL cable is still connected let 30 min pass by then there should be no DLM intervention.
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So basically don't update the HG612's firmware while the DSL cable is still connected let 30 min pass by then there should be no DLM intervention.
not saying you are wrong NS , as its prob just my line but the last time my modem was powered down it was off for just under 3 hours (8.30am- 11.50am) due to an electricians wiring check.
i thought the same , however i still ended up with increased interleave.
... didnt dare touch it again since .
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i thought the same , however i still ended up with increased interleave.
That ok Perry081064 I fully understand its seems your attainable sync rate fluctuates over a 24 hour period same as my line, if a were to reboot the modem when the attainable is at it highest point the SNRM would be lower with a higher sync rate and the interleave depth would also increase by 10 or 20 points thats nothing to worry about.
However your interleaved depth seems to be stuck in the 1000's for many months now it maybe thats the minium amount the DLM will go, that suggests to me you have consistent low level noise on your line :(
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Cheers HW
I know it's to late for the HG612 error count fix (Incorrect errors in under wrong label)
Now that I have the GUI back with your firmware the FEC: errors should be CRC's and the CRC: label should actually be RSUnCorr errors the HEC lable is correct.
I do intend to fix as many of the web interface's issues as I can.
First I need to write a new extraction tool which sets the 'correct' date/time on the extracted files so I can use proper source control and a makefile based build system. There are simply too many files to keep track of without them.
Using the steps 1 to 17 from reset to entering the modem login and password, what I have noticed missing is to remove the DSL cable after powering off the HG612 <snip>
I hadn't noticed that. Probably because it never occurred to me to do otherwise... :ouch:
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I was searching for something completely different when I came across a note entitled GUI_CLI.txt in my ~/lib/Huawei/HG612/ directory.
GUI CLI
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CRC is SFErr (OHFErr for VDSL2 connections)
FEC is RSCorr
HEC is HEC
RSUnCorr is not reported in the GUI.
From Bald_Eagle1.
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Using the steps 1 to 17 from reset to entering the modem login and password, what I have noticed missing is to remove the DSL cable after powering off the HG612 <snip>
I hadn't noticed that. Probably because it never occurred to me to do otherwise... :ouch:
It's more a precaution in case you finger slips off the reset button before the 5 second hold time, and if it does the HG612 will boot up as normal and you will have to go through the process again if the DSL cable was still connected the DLM would see this as 2 power off's in quick succession :no:
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apparently 20 or so disconnects a day is tolerated so its odd people report DLM taking action after one power cycle.
I have even power cycled my modem before whilst waiting to be put back on fast path and then had DLM put me back on fast path the same 24 hour period as a power cycle.
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apparently 20 or so disconnects a day is tolerated so its odd people report DLM taking action after one power cycle.
I have even power cycled my modem before whilst waiting to be put back on fast path and then had DLM put me back on fast path the same 24 hour period as a power cycle.
i can provide my last 3 months stats that would prove otherwise. (maybe even 5 months if i can find them ).
in the three disconnects ive had over that period (managed powerdowns ), all three have caused DLM to increase interleave higher than before and never drop back.
im obviously in the minority , but its there in black and white , im dreading a powercut or severe weather :(
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apparently 20 or so disconnects a day is tolerated so its odd people report DLM taking action after one power cycle.
I have even power cycled my modem before whilst waiting to be put back on fast path and then had DLM put me back on fast path the same 24 hour period as a power cycle.
It's seems you have put yourself forward to test the 20 disconnects in a 24 hour period using the 30 minute delay off/on theory ;D
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apparently 20 or so disconnects a day is tolerated so its odd people report DLM taking action after one power cycle.
I have even power cycled my modem before whilst waiting to be put back on fast path and then had DLM put me back on fast path the same 24 hour period as a power cycle.
It's seems you have put yourself forward to test the 20 disconnects in a 24 hour period using the 30 minute delay off/on theory ;D
I think it was a plusnet rep who mentioned 20. It will be lower tho on the stable DLM profiles.
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So is the bt agent removed? or is it just the tab?, and is it better to disable 801.1p values, ive read that 7 is the highest priority yet the main bandwidth is set lower than bts update and control bandwidth, unless its changed now, what I read was made in 1998. Ive also changed ip bridge to pppoe bridge and turned off dhcp transparent transmission, is that wise?, whats the difference between the 2?, also as its only passing internet to the hub and that's doing the rest, don't see the need for transparent transmission, seems to be more responsive on web pages but I don't know much about it ans would like to know whats best.
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Many thanks yet again
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Does anyone know yet if this updated firmware reduces the number of errors, especially from someone connected to an ECI cabinet? I'm currently using the ECI /r modem as it's only device that seems to keep my line on fastpath.
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probably not as is same blob version.
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The new firmware performance of the vdsl/adsl side is the same as before. If you willing to manually limit the HG612 sync speed down to a value not a lot more than the speed you would get on interleaved the HG612 you should maintain fastpath in most cases. Using e.g. "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 64000 16000 100000" and aiming for a snrm of about 8-9 rather than 6 reduces my error rates by about a factor of 4-5.
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The new firmware performance of the vdsl/adsl side is the same as before. If you willing to manually limit the HG612 sync speed down to a value not a lot more than the speed you would get on interleaved the HG612 you should maintain fastpath in most cases. Using e.g. "xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 64000 16000 100000" and aiming for a snrm of about 8-9 rather than 6 reduces my error rates by about a factor of 4-5.
I see.
Yes I did all that a long way in the past (maxDataRate), it didn't make a huge difference to the odd and occasional errors, enough in some cases to cause DLM to switch to interleaving. I'll stick to the ECI /r since that keeps me on fastpath without needing to cap the speed further.
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Using all default settings ,ive had my first resync , my profile is the lowest its ever been in 3 years :(, last night around 1.30am, it started spitting out crcs by the hundreds and made the modem resync, it happens on my line rarely as I think nextdoor as got something faulty, but the previous firmware was able to keep sync.
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I just upgraded my HG612 - running the previous unlocked/webgui firmware using the file:
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui
from
https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w
After doing this, the modem itself reports under "status":
V100R001C01B030SP06
Is this expected, or a bad package?
I used the web admin UI to upgrade
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is fine
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I just upgraded my HG612 - running the previous unlocked/webgui firmware using the file:
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui
from
https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w
After doing this, the modem itself reports under "status":
V100R001C01B030SP06
Is this expected, or a bad package?
I used the web admin UI to upgrade
Doing it through the modem's GUI isn't recommended (if that's what you meant) as it doesn't fully update the firmware/software.
Following Asbokid's original instructions is the only sure fire way to ensure a 'full' update.
Strictly speaking, you should now be seeing this:-
software version: V100R001C01B030SP08
(Not V100R001C01B030SP06)
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Ok, I'll try that at some point soon.
Odd that the fw did update to some extent but to the july version ? So can someone running the unlocked web gui confirm they see 08 ?
Full info is
Product type EchoLife HG612
Device ID <withheld>
Hardware version VER.B
Software version V100R001C01B030SP06
Firmware version A2pv6C038m.d24j
Batch number BC1P6.030.A2pv6C038m.d24j
System up time 0 days 4 hours 32 minutes 27 seconds
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So can someone running the unlocked web gui confirm they see 08 ?
Yes I can, just updated last week to the unlocked GUI version.
Software version = V100R001C01B030SP08
Firmware version = A2pv6C038m.d24j
CPU version = BCM6368
CFE version = 1.0.37-102.6
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Yes, me too. I see 08 as expected. Upgraded using the original method.
Sent from my Lumia 1520 using Tapatalk (with free typos)
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Yes here's my Modem info
Software version = V100R001C01B030SP08
Software last change detected at 13/07/2014 at 01:00
Firmware version = A2pv6C038m.d24j
Firmware last change detected at 13/07/2014 at 01:00
CPU version = BCM6368
CPU last change detected at 13/07/2014 at 01:00
CFE version = 1.0.37-102.6
CFE last change detected at 13/07/2014 at 01:00
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Software version V100R001C01B030SP06
Now
Software version V100R001C01B030SP08
The above is after the recommended upgrade process
so it appears the web ui upgrade managed to get the SW mostly refreshed but not all... odd as it definately changed a lot from the previous version ..
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Hi guys,
So I'm currently using the unlocked GUI and no BT Agent version of the firmware with the numbers: V100R001C01B030SP06 & Firmware: A2pv6C038m.d24j.
What one of the three images in the OP would be best for me? I'd like BT Agent to be disabled and the GUI to be unlocked.
Also what changes have been made to these compared to previous releases?
Cheers
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I may upgrade my modem now my uptime has gone to crap.
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Software version V100R001C01B030SP06
Now
Software version V100R001C01B030SP08
The above is after the recommended upgrade process
so it appears the web ui upgrade managed to get the SW mostly refreshed but not all... odd as it definately changed a lot from the previous version ..
I don't see how that could have happened. The firmware is a single homogenous image which is updated as a whole or not at all.
In addition, the firmware upgrade option in the web interface needs a different image format and won't work with these images. Unfortunately, it also silently fails without telling you the upgrade has failed which is probably what led to the confusion.
You can find more information on what has changed here:- Latest BT Firmware update (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14268.0)
Hi guys,
So I'm currently using the unlocked GUI and no BT Agent version of the firmware with the numbers: V100R001C01B030SP06 & Firmware: A2pv6C038m.d24j.
What one of the three images in the OP would be best for me? I'd like BT Agent to be disabled and the GUI to be unlocked.
Also what changes have been made to these compared to previous releases?
Cheers
Please read the whole of the first post including the notes. That will tell you what you need to know about BTAgent in the current builds.
As for the changes...
I think, and I do stress the word think, the changes are probably a fix for Adrian Kennard's VPN/UDP bug.
As usual, there is a resounding silence from BT on the subject.
More information on the changes can be found at the link above and the bug itself here:-
BT Huawei FTTC modem bug breaking VPNs (http://www.revk.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-fttc-modem-bug-breaking-vpns.html)
BT & Huawei working with us (http://www.revk.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-working-with-us.html)
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Hi guys,
So I'm currently using the unlocked GUI and no BT Agent version of the firmware with the numbers: V100R001C01B030SP06 & Firmware: A2pv6C038m.d24j.
What one of the three images in the OP would be best for me? I'd like BT Agent to be disabled and the GUI to be unlocked.
Also what changes have been made to these compared to previous releases?
Cheers
Please read the whole of the first post including the notes. That will tell you what you need to know about BTAgent in the current builds.
As for the changes...
I think, and I do stress the word think, the changes are probably a fix for Adrian Kennard's VPN/UDP bug.
As usual, there is a resounding silence from BT on the subject.
More information on the changes can be found at the link above and the bug itself here:-
BT Huawei FTTC modem bug breaking VPNs (http://www.revk.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-fttc-modem-bug-breaking-vpns.html)
BT & Huawei working with us (http://www.revk.uk/2013/11/bt-huawei-working-with-us.html)
I guess the question is; is it worth upgrading to this firmware?
I was confused about the BT Agent because although it's neutered can't it re-enable itself? (There must have been a reason it was completely removed on the previous firmware releases instead of just disabled)?
Thanks for the links
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I guess the question is; is it worth upgrading to this firmware?
It's impossible to say for certain without further information from BT.
I would suggest that if you're using the new B030SP06 (Aug 2014) release from the repository linked in the first post and not having VPN related issues then probably not.
If you're using anything earlier including any of the previous B030SP06 releases then yes, you should upgrade to the latest version (B030SP08).
I was confused about the BT Agent because although it's neutered can't it re-enable itself? (There must have been a reason it was completely removed on the previous firmware releases instead of just disabled)?
Thanks for the links
It's very unlikely.
The VLAN used by BTAgent is controlled by the device config. I certainly didn't see any code touching that in BTAgent and I'm sure Asbokid would have mentioned it if he had. His 'anti-corporate paranoia' wouldn't have let him keep quiet about it ;D
I removed BTAgent from some versions of the previous releases because I was asked to. Nothing more sinister than that.
Unfortunately having so many different versions led to some confusion amongst newer members over which one to use and at least one mistake on my part.
Hence my decision to wipe the slate clean and start again.
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Went to B030SP08 today, all seems well. Only difference I noticed from a config snapshot before and after was the US SNRM went from the 6 ish it was before up to 15
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flashing mine tonight but will kill the btagent process.
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Have a Question since I have updated to HW Firmware B030SP08 with GUI and BT agent disabled on the HG612, will the router still be able to receive it's firmware updates if one is currently available ?
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not sure, on the first firmware people disabled the interface in the GUI like howlingwolf has done on this new firmware, but when they didnt kill btagent their modems still got updated. Which suggests to me it still has a way of communicating which is why I plan to kill it.
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not sure, on the first firmware people disabled the interface in the GUI like howlingwolf has done on this new firmware, but when they didnt kill btagent their modems still got updated. Which suggests to me it still has a way of communicating which is why I plan to kill it.
Thanks Chry it is a grey area the BTagent could also provide a secure gateway for router firmware updates which is as we know is normally beneficial to the EU, but if it's blocked or unavailable then the router will not get any remote updates from there ISP's
I don't know it's something that made me think a few days ago when on another forum the op was not getting a router firmware update as he had the btagent removed on the HG612 :-\
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I may have asked previously, but............................
Why do some users wish/need to block BT Agent?
Does it actually do any harm or invade our privacy?
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not sure, on the first firmware people disabled the interface in the GUI like howlingwolf has done on this new firmware, but when they didnt kill btagent their modems still got updated. Which suggests to me it still has a way of communicating which is why I plan to kill it.
Thanks Chry it is a grey area the BTagent could also provide a secure gateway for router firmware updates which is as we know is normally beneficial to the EU, but if it's blocked or unavailable then the router will not get any remote updates from there ISP's
I don't know it's something that made me think a few days ago when on another forum the op was not getting a router firmware update as he had the btagent removed on the HG612 :-\
I would think the sort of people flashing custom firmware do not want isp automated updates tho, I defenitly dont.
I remember been frustrated on infinity with isp enforced ppp resets every 3-4 days then suddenly after killing btagent I could have long uptimes.
anyway seems I need a download link as I forgot to download it and only have access from my laptop now on 3G and the mega.nz site wants me to update my browser which I cannot do at the moment.
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anyway seems I need a download link as I forgot to download it and only have access from my laptop now on 3G and the mega.nz site wants me to update my browser which I cannot do at the moment.
You have a PM, sent from The Cattery. ;)
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I may have asked previously, but............................
Why do some users wish/need to block BT Agent?
Does it actually do any harm or invade our privacy?
I just wanted the HG612's GUI back after the last firmware update and HW hack works for me BE1, but I am mindfull that the blocked BT Agent my not be helpfull in the long term.
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I may have asked previously, but............................
Why do some users wish/need to block BT Agent?
Does it actually do any harm or invade our privacy?
Because we don't want the GUI to randomly be disabled?
There is no way to be sure that Openreach won't get tired of all this hacking and actually block telnet and/or the emergency firmware flashing functionality completely. I wouldn't personally fancy having to JTAG my modem to get everything back as my soldering skill is rather like a five year old with a knife and fork.
If nothing else, your modem updating of its own accord could break your stats as the output of xdslcmd can change. I like to know when this is going to happen. Heck, there is always the possibility of a failed firmware update bricking the modem and if you aren't around to fix it that is mighty problematic for other people in the household.
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Because we don't want the GUI to randomly be disabled?
That's a fair point.
There is no way to be sure that Openreach won't get tired of all this hacking and actually block telnet and/or the emergency firmware flashing functionality completely. I wouldn't personally fancy having to JTAG my modem to get everything back as my soldering skill is rather like a five year old with a knife and fork.
TBH, I did wonder why they hadn't blocked telnet access & firmware flashing when they first disabled the GUI.
Maybe that functionality is needed for their own monitoring/firmware updating methods?
If nothing else, your modem updating of its own accord could break your stats as the output of xdslcmd can change.
That's true & it did happen.
The raw stats were still harvested, which allowed us to see what had changed, but my programs did need to be amended to suit both the original & updated stats formatting to take that into account, so there was indeed a short period where plotting of ongoing stats didn't work.
I'm personally happy to not block BT Agent as I'll at least be able to spot if anything changes & take action accordingly.
I do have a spare HG612, should everything be completely blocked in the worst case scenario.
Other makes of Broadcom based modems can also be used e.g. Zyxel etc. if necessary should all else fail.
As the firmware update did seem to aid stabiity & speed for some users, it would be a shame if everyone blocked updates & nobody noticed any other 'genuine' improvements.
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anyway seems I need a download link as I forgot to download it and only have access from my laptop now on 3G and the mega.nz site wants me to update my browser which I cannot do at the moment.
You have a PM, sent from The Cattery. ;)
sorry I ended up installing firefox portable grabbed it, flashed it, then went bed quickly after noticing the time, but thanks anyway.
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I may have asked previously, but............................
Why do some users wish/need to block BT Agent?
Does it actually do any harm or invade our privacy?
No but it will (From what I gather) lock us GUI users out of the GUI and reset the root password IF it updates the FW so we can't do anything with it. It would need unlocking again. That's what I gather anyway.
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I was going to say those who use unlocked modems really need to take responsibly for what they doing.
Using a firmware with no btagent doesnt prevent automatic updating as one only need to reflash with a firmware with btagent included, however I think the bigger problem howlingwolf raised was that his btagent image wasnt working right due to an error in his patch as a result of doing a no btagent version.
I am not going to press him for a no btagent version now but I have killed the btagent processes on my hg612.
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In all builds, BTAgent will remain untouched and still active. However in builds which include the web interface, it will be neutered by disabling it's VLAN.
This can be re-enabled through the web interface by going to Basic --> WAN.
- Select ptm1.301 under Connection Name.
- In the config panel below that, Enable 'WAN connection' and submit.
This will give people the choice. Enable it to receive updates or disable it to prevent them.
Have just installed bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui, to replace bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10unlocked002
When I go to Basic --> WAN, I only see ptm1.101 under Connection Name (no sign of ptm1.301)
If I then disable 'WAN connection', I lose internet connectivity.
How can I prevent updates? Thanks.
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if there's no ptm1.301 vlan, I'd suggest that means it's already removed and there will be no updating.
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there is no ptm1.301 its called tr069_internet which I am not convinced is btagent thats why I killed the process.
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there is no ptm1.301 its called tr069_internet which I am not convinced is btagent thats why I killed the process.
I've also tried disabling 'WAN connection' for 'TR069' and 'TR069_INTERNET' but these both kill all my internet connectivity.
I don't use shell scripts for stats logging, just some GUI screen scrapes, so I don't really want to schedule a shell script just to login and kill BTAgent.
Any other suggestions for what to disable in the GUI in order to cripple BTAgent please?
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Also just noticed that the last disabling WAN connection test caused me to receive a new IP address
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you only need to kill btagent once if you never reboot the modem. it doesnt come back on resync.
use this command in telnet, repeat it twice as a quick way of knowing it worked, if it works the 2nd time will say no process killed.
killall -KILL start btagent
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When I go to Basic --> WAN, I only see ptm1.101 under Connection Name (no sign of ptm1.301)
Updating the firmware does not 'reset' the config if you've modified it.
So if you didn't do a factory reset afterwards, you probably have a modified config from one of the previous versions which had ptm1.301 removed.
there is no ptm1.301 its called tr069_internet which I am not convinced is btagent thats why I killed the process.
TR069_INTERNET is the service name, not the connection name.
If you don't have a connection named ptm1.301, then it's almost certainly the same issue as above.
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I have no ptm1.301 confirmed.
The connection name for tr069 is blank.
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Noticed something with the GUI and telnet session.
GUI: The 'uptime' counter (WAN->xDSL) has stopped working
Telnet: Once changing the password for the GUI, I need to use that new password to log into the GUI. But telnet remains as admin/admin. Is there something else I must do in telnet to change the password there?
Out of interest BE, why would the new binary have such a significant (positive) impact on the U/S SNRM? Is this a reporting issue?
Before
Connection Status
Help
Mode VDSL2
Traffic type PTM
DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 4351438
Line Status
Help
Downstream Upstream
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 73352 22577
SNR margin (dB) 6.3 7
Line attenuation (dB) 0 0
Output power (dBmV) 12.6 -2
And After:
Connection Status
Help
Mode VDSL2
Traffic type PTM
DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 0
Line Status
Help
Downstream Upstream
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 72648 22892
SNR margin (dB) 6.1 14.9
Line attenuation (dB) 11.5 0
Output power (dBmV) 12.6 -1.6
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I remember someone else reporting it as well somewhere.
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Out of interest BE, why would the new binary have such a significant (positive) impact on the U/S SNRM? Is this a reporting issue?
TBH, I'm not currently using a GUI version, so I don't know what the GUI reports these days.
We do know it is & always has been slightly flawed though as it mis-reports some of the raw telnet data etc.
To take things back to basics, I reloaded Asbokid's original firmware & allowed BT's remote update again.
I get all the info I personally need from the HG612 Modem Stats program.
Perhaps line conditions have improved, a distuber pair has been disconnected or the updated firmware reports things more accurately?
The best way would be to compare the raw telnet stats from xdslcmd info --stats & also xdslcmd info --pbParams.
Ideally, 24/7 graphs going back a while would show any significant changes in performance and/or improvement/deterioration in line conditions.
It could even be that your US bitloading now takes place at different tones/frequencies that are 'quieter'.
Most higher speed connections don't need to use much or any of the 'noisier' U0 (ADSL frequency) band for bitloading, so maybe the newer firmware makes more efficient use of all available tones?
We certainly see increased bitswapping via the newer firmware rather than tones previously being marked as unusable.
Maybe that's a possible part explanation.
I'm slightly surprised that US SNRM is so high though as I would normally have expected US attainable rate to increase.
I take it you are actually achieving the full 20 Mbps US sync speed?
Or are you on a capped 40/10 service where attainable rates are rather academic?
I think we'd need to see more extended data to be able to comment with any 'reasonable' certainty.
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Hi BE, thanks for the reply
The best way would be to compare the raw telnet stats from xdslcmd info --stats & also xdslcmd info --pbParams.
I can only really give these from after the upgrade. Since the line got rock stable after the D-side pair switch I gave up monitoring after a few months until the recent firware upgrade (im on a huawei cab so fingers crossed for vectoring). The telnet data seems to concur with the web GUI (im on linux so run dslstats as well as a custom perl collector and RRDTool, too much hassle to fire up a windows VM and run the HG612 modem stats scripts unfortunately!)
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.2 15.0
Attn(dB): 11.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 -1.6
old pbParams (form a year ago) are here http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=12979.msg245243#msg245243 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=12979.msg245243#msg245243), showing 7.1
New pbParams:
Max: Upstream rate = 22959 Kbps, Downstream rate = 72876 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 73107 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate: 22959 kbps 72876 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: - 1.6 dBm 12.6 dBm
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VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 U4 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.8 12.7 19.2 N/A N/A 7.1 14.6 22.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.8 11.8 18.3 N/A N/A 8.3 14.4 22.6
SNR Margin(dB): 15.2 15.0 15.0 N/A N/A 6.2 6.2 6.1
TX Power(dBm): -15.8 -30.9 -1.7 N/A N/A 8.7 7.8 7.0
Perhaps line conditions have improved, a distuber pair has been disconnected or the updated firmware reports things more accurately?
Im inclined to think the latter. Unless somehow the line significantly improved in the space of power down->firmware update->power up, but im guessing the probabilities of that happening are rather minimal ;) The web interface stats I posted in my previous post were copied right before the upgrade and right after.
so maybe the newer firmware makes more efficient use of all available tones?
c'est possible.
I'm slightly surprised that US SNRM is so high though as I would normally have expected US attainable rate to increase.
Me too, but it was right there in black and white - US SNRM doubled, and sync stayed the same (Though my line has always been a bit weird, you may notice my DS 'max rate' is always lower than the 'bearer' generally. no idea why, it stays stable at 72-73mbps usually.
I take it you are actually achieving the full 20 Mbps US sync speed?
80/20 and yes, its 19999 on the U path. Though I max out at 17mbps throughput, which is a bit less than the 10% I would expect. wireshark tells me its due to TCP re-xmits a-la TCPs normal throttling - only when under max use - they go away if i throttle the TCP stream manually own to say 14mbps. My guess is my U path has quite a bit of errors when at full chat (side note; my U path is the only one that generates FEC and CRC / ES nowadays)
I do still see those massive dips in SNRM (only on upstream) that I mentioned in my post from last year, when the phone is off the hook. They still reduce the SNRM by up to 7db sometimes, but now with this new 15dB margin that still leaves bags of room. Before the firmware upgrade, when we were on the phone my upload throughput would go down drastically (about 8 to 10 meg max upload when phone was off hook, 17 max when on hook), but since the firmware change the dips still happen, but throughput remains solid 17's even when off hook.
Please see the 2014-09-02 upstream SNRM graph attached for current SNRM (and an example of the 'off hook dip'). Ive also attached a US SNRM graph from october '13 and current bitloading. To be fair today's bitloading on the US doesnt look overly different from before the D-side switch in Oct13 (though you can see the improvement in the D paths the D-side pair switch made!). Old bitloading from Oct 13 is here http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=12979.msg245197#msg245197 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=12979.msg245197#msg245197)
Im thinking that your theory about more efficient use may be the winner here? Is the binary blob in this firmware release different to Asbokids release from Sept last year?
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And before I forget, massive thanks to the team behind this firmware!! Ill report back any issues/observations as I find them/see something noteworthy..
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Im thinking that your theory about more efficient use may be the winner here? Is the binary blob in this firmware release different to Asbokids release from Sept last year?
From memory, the blob that Asbokid released did seem to provide slightly higher sync speeds for some users, but some of the usually dynamic data wasn't being updated until the connection resynced.
I'm afraid I can't recall exactly what wasn't being updated other than bitloading.
I suppose it's also possible that SNRM wasn't being updated until the connection resynced.
Hence the resync that occurred when you updated the fimware could have refreshed the SNRM values, assuming the previous resync had occurred at a time when SNRM was particularly low & that the blob you were using didn't actually refresh SNRM data dynamically.
Unfortunately, without other 'evidence' it's all pretty much guesswork & assumptions now.
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I suppose it's also possible that SNRM wasn't being updated until the connection resynced.
That could be a possibility - it had been running for 50 days (assuming the old 'uptime' count was in seconds) before the upgrade. Though as US SNRM fluctuates in telnet data/graphing on a daily basis, why would it wait for the upgrade power cycle in order to report the 'new' values.
Though I think I may have cracked it - I had BTagent killed and the management interface down on my old firmware. Check your reply to one of my old posts here http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13041.msg246483#msg246483 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13041.msg246483#msg246483) - second stage of the bandplan upgrade was a firmware update. I had the first stage, but must have remained on shared tones in U0 until I switched to this firmware? Could that be our smoking gun here?
speculation I know, but seems the most likely at this stage?
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Could be, as I was on a Digital Region connection (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=13130.msg257303#msg257303) so not the same band plans as BT and no maximum sync rate defined.
My down sync actually slightly decreased from 100004 to 99999 on the newer blob although in reality my connection felt like the latency had been reduced, even though I couldn't actually prove any measurable improvement.
Out of curiosity, why does this thread say "New HW version"? That to me suggests hardware but I see no mention of new hardware, just new firmware. Was that intended to say "New FW version"?
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HW = Howling Wolf?
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HW = Howling Wolf?
Indeedy! ;D
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When I go to Basic --> WAN, I only see ptm1.101 under Connection Name (no sign of ptm1.301)
Updating the firmware does not 'reset' the config if you've modified it.
So if you didn't do a factory reset afterwards, you probably have a modified config from one of the previous versions which had ptm1.301 removed.
Finally got around to trying a reset via Maintenance > Device > Reset in the GUI and ptm1.301 is now showing with WAN connection disabled, so all looks good. Many thanks.
A separate question.. my BT vdsl connection was ticking along happily for 2 months with a downstream SNR of 18dB, then it suddenly dropped to 10dB and has stayed at that for the last 5 weeks. The reported max attainable download speed dropped at the same time from 57 Mbps to 53 Mbps (all approx), although this hasn't affected me as I'm on the 40/10 package.
Is this SNR drop likely to be something which BT initiated?
Update: After some reading around I'm suspecting that this is due to crosstalk with local FTTC takeup (I joined very soon after the cabinet was enabled).
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I can confirm TR069_INTERNET is ptm1.301, the connection name appears when enabling it.
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Where can I download the latest firmware for openreach HG612 V100R001C01B028SP10? As mine is old firmware: A2pv6C030b.d22g
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Where can I download the latest firmware for openreach HG612 V100R001C01B028SP10? As mine is old firmware: A2pv6C030b.d22g
Please go to the very first post (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14262.msg267144#msg267144) in this thread and take the link that Wolfy has provided.
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Where can I download the latest firmware for openreach HG612 V100R001C01B028SP10? As mine is old firmware: A2pv6C030b.d22g
Please go to the very first post (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14262.msg267144#msg267144) in this thread and take the link that Wolfy has provided.
Yes but wrong model version?
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP06_unlocked
bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_unlocked
Mine is EchoLife HG612 Ver.B V100R001C01B028SP10_unlocked (need firmware with SP10)
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the new versions is build 30 which supersedes your build 28.
in affect you have v28.10 and the new version is v30.08
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the new versions is build 30 which supersedes your build 28.
in affect you have v28.10 and the new version is v30.08
Are u saying I can download this one bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_unlocked on my EchoLife HG612 Ver.B modem in safe flash? Also what was the different change in new firmware to my old firmware?
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Newer modem driver that potentially improves performance.
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I had to try this out - it's added 3MB raw download speed to my connection, can't complain!
Many thanks!
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I've updated my HG612 and stability wise it seems fine - though I seem to have suddenly developed a line fault today from about 13:30. Noise on the line - confirmed using the BT quiet line test via hard wired handset connected to the "Test" socket. Also my sync has dropped from a stable ~58Mb to a lowly 33Mb (User: Starman mydslstats) and I've got to wait until Monday for an Openreach engineer to hopefully do another pair swap like they did 18 months ago when this happened last time.
The only issue I've noted via the web GUI is the lack of a "Online Duration" in Status > WAN > Network, and "DSL Up Time" in Status > WAN > xDSL. Seems to be reported fine via telnet.
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I wonder if Kitz or Eric would be able to split out the recent additions to this thread (which are straying away from the topic of Howlingwolf's firmware images) into a thread of their own? :-\
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Thanks for the nudge. Done. :)
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Thanks for the nudge. Done. :)
Just purrfect. ;D
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Are we going to need a new HW firmware for G.Inp/vector support, or don't we know yet?
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Hi guys.
I'm currently running the version ending SP06. What changes are in the SP08 version, and is it worth upgrading?
If I do upgrade, I've seen people mentioning not to upgrade it through the GUI. Can anyone provide a link to the proper instructions?
Thanks.
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Are we going to need a new HW firmware for G.Inp/vector support, or don't we know yet?
G.IMP is running on my modem now using the 08 firmware from Wolf. So i would say for G.IMP no :) (I posted my stats in the G.IMP thread in the news section)
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If I do upgrade, I've seen people mentioning not to upgrade it through the GUI. Can anyone provide a link to the proper instructions?
Let me say this, once again! There are two separate types of firmware image. To flash via the:
The images provided by Howllingwolf and, previously, Asbokid are of the first type. Any attempt to flash with them via the GUI is a NOP (a no-op, a no-operation).
The proper instructions to flash the device with a different firmware image is exactly the same as that initially used to unlock (https://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf) the device. Just substitute the name of the firmware image that you wish to use for the name of the image in the above unlocking instructions.
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If I do upgrade, I've seen people mentioning not to upgrade it through the GUI. Can anyone provide a link to the proper instructions?
Let me say this, once again! There are two separate types of firmware image. To flash via the:
The images provided by Howllingwolf and, previously, Asbokid are of the first type. Any attempt to flash with them via the GUI is a NOP (a no-op, a no-operation).
The proper instructions to flash the device with a different firmware image is exactly the same as that initially used to unlock (https://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf) the device. Just substitute the name of the firmware image that you wish to use for the name of the image in the above unlocking instructions.
Thanks 😊
I see people mentioning the SP10 firmware but on the repository I can only see the source code for that firmware. Are people compiling their own version of this firmware or is there a file?
Thanks
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SP06 is the initial unlocked fw
SP08 is the later unlocked fw after Opernreach upgraded the fw
SP10 is the source released by Huawei and Openreach to satisfy Copyleft requirements
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SP06 is the initial unlocked fw
SP08 is the later unlocked fw after Opernreach upgraded the fw
SP10 is the source released by Huawei and Openreach to satisfy Copyleft requirements
Thanks.
So I guess I'll be upgrading to SP08 then!
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Stability is amazing, connected 69 days, although telnet only goes up to 49 days 17 hours 2mins and 47secs, still don't understand why im on interleave, 69 days must be enough to turn it off?
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Stability is amazing, connected 69 days, although telnet only goes up to 49 days 17 hours 2mins and 47secs, still don't understand why im on interleave, 69 days must be enough to turn it off?
The DLM could be stuck or the line is constantly noisy :-\
It would be good if you could leave your PC on for 24 hours as your are not getting the true errored second count as you turn off the monitoring.
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ill do this later on today, turn on the monitor and leave the pc on for 24hours.
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Hi Guys, I'm sorry to have to ask, but I am struggling with this :(
I unlocked my HG612 3B when I received it last May, but now want to update to the latest firmware that is on this thread as the old one that I am on doesn't appear to support G.Inp.
I have followed the instructions in asbokid's .pdf file that I used initially for unlocking to the letter, but I just can't get it to work.
After holding down reset on the back of the device and then plugging in the power, whilst continuing to hold down reset for 5 seconds (have tried longer too) I am unable to connect to 192.168.1.1 and it just times out and fails to connect to the modem
I've checked all the stupid little things that I may have overlooked;
Ethernet cable from PC is in Lan 2 of the modem (tried several different cables, tried with lan cables also in/out of lan 1 at the same time and dsl connected/unconnected)
Ethernet card in PC is set to 192.168.1.100 (verified with Ipconfig - have also tried with other IP addresses)
Tried 1 PC and 1 Laptop both with the same results
If i then remove the power to the device and re-attach it I am able to connect to the GUI again on 192.168.1.1 and everything works, so I know that the modem is functional.
The firmware that is currently on there is bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent
any suggestions, as I am pulling my hair out here?
**** found the problem - my av/firewall (Eset Smart Security) was blocking things - thought i'd leave this post up in case anyone else ever encounters something similar!
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Finally got round to upgrading mine to v30, no change other than losing about a meg in sync from booting it back up at a "noiser" time of night
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Is it possible to tell a software version by having the firmware version?
I have another HG612 modem that as a firmware of A2pv6C038m.d24j .. without hooking it up directly and checking, is there any way the firmware tells me the software version? or arent they related?
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Is it possible to tell a software version by having the firmware version?
I have another HG612 modem that as a firmware of A2pv6C038m.d24j .. without hooking it up directly and checking, is there any way the firmware tells me the software version? or arent they related?
I am not sure what your asking for but RonSki's tools shows both software and firmware that's used.
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I am not sure what your asking for but RonSki's tools shows both software and firmware that's used.
Thanks mate. Thats what I was wanting to know :)
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If you were to access the device via telnet, then invoking an equipcmd swversion display command at the shell prompt would probably provide the details.
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Looks like ive have an upgrade at the cab, I cant see how the modem got updated as its still reporting 34 days so its not been rebooted, my stats have changed and interleave is nearly off. Or ...the very strong winds have done something, if anyone knows then please tell. Jeez, I just got 1ping on speed test lol, but interleave depth is 8 and inp is 49? Has vectoring been turned on at last?EDIT: I know what it is now. http://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/g.inp
xdslcmd info --stat xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 10599 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58384 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 8496 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58980 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.1 7.3
Attn(dB): 21.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.2 6.7
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 243 73
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 10 14
S: 0.1317 0.2744
L: 15425 2566
D: 8 8
I: 254 88
N: 254 88
Q: 8 8
V: 0 5
RxQueue: 48 21
TxQueue: 16 7
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 16 7
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 8.0000 16.0000
L: 32 16
D: 1 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 285824928 347685
RSCorr: 108586 435
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 588389 590689
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 4706614 2362758
RSCorr: 1644 17
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 917 31
rtx_c: 852 31
rtx_uc: 98 0
G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 4 1
Stats recorded 31 Mar 2015 10:57:38
DSLAM/MSAN type: BDCM:0xa44f / v0xa44f
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode: VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 2 hours 47 min 31 sec
Resyncs: 0 (since 31 Mar 2015 10:39:35)
Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 21.7 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 58980 8496
SNR margin (dB): 6.1 7.3
Power (dBm): 12.2 6.7
Interleave depth: 8 8
INP: 49.00 43.00
G.INP: Enabled
RSCorr/RS (%): 0.0358 0.0870
RSUnCorr/RS (%): 0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour: 0 0
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:-X
Looks like ive have an upgrade at the cab, I cant see how the modem got updated as its still reporting 34 days so its not been rebooted, my stats have changed and interleave is nearly off. Or ...the very strong winds have done something, if anyone knows then please tell. Jeez, I just got 1ping on speed test lol, but interleave depth is 8 and inp is 49? Has vectoring been turned on at last?EDIT: I know what it is now. http://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/g.inp
xdslcmd info --stat xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 10599 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58384 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 8496 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58980 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
G.INP has been enabled :)
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Sorry to say that the very strong high winds have messed up my ping already. I still cant BT to come out and change my drop wire, its ben 5 years of trying to tell them its faulty, strong winds blow the line and my connection goes all over the place. Can no longer get 1ping, 10 or 11 now. Imagine G.inp and vectoring working together, we could achieve high speeds at long distance, but I suspect BT have just gone with G.inp
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????? Can't comment on your drop-wire issue, but regarding vectoring ..... have a read at some other threads on this forum ...... :)
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Quick question, does that mean the webgui version has web access via IE etc while the unlocked one had no web access and can only access via Telnet? sorry for the newbie question.
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Quick question, does that mean the webgui version has web access via IE etc while the unlocked one had no web access and can only access via Telnet? sorry for the newbie question.
No need to apologise. :)
A locked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with, say, the original firmware image created by Asbokid will have access via the GUI and the CLI. If this HG612 has been allowed to be updated with the latter images (remotely pushed by BT) then the GUI access is lost but the CLI access remains viable.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with Wolfy's firmware image (see the initial post to this thread) will have access via the GUI and the CLI.
Does that help? :cat:
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An unlocked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
I think you mean locked
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An unlocked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
I think you mean locked
b*cat locates a handy brown-paper bag . . . :paperbag:
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Quick question, does that mean the webgui version has web access via IE etc while the unlocked one had no web access and can only access via Telnet? sorry for the newbie question.
No need to apologise. :)
A locked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with, say, the original firmware image created by Asbokid will have access via the GUI and the CLI. If this HG612 has been allowed to be updated with the latter images (remotely pushed by BT) then the GUI access is lost but the CLI access remains viable.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with Wolfy's firmware image (see the initial post to this thread) will have access via the GUI and the CLI.
Does that help? :cat:
Thank you so much, my unlocked HG612 came with firmware V100R001C01B028SP10, I am wondering which should I flash, unlocked or webgui to keep my HG612 unlocked? Thanks.
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Quick question, does that mean the webgui version has web access via IE etc while the unlocked one had no web access and can only access via Telnet? sorry for the newbie question.
No need to apologise. :)
A locked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with, say, the original firmware image created by Asbokid will have access via the GUI and the CLI. If this HG612 has been allowed to be updated with the latter images (remotely pushed by BT) then the GUI access is lost but the CLI access remains viable.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with Wolfy's firmware image (see the initial post to this thread) will have access via the GUI and the CLI.
Does that help? :cat:
Thank you so much, my unlocked HG612 came with firmware V100R001C01B028SP10, I am wondering which should I flash, unlocked or webgui to keep my HG612 unlocked? Thanks.
webgui will allow you to keep access to the web ui, unlocked will only allow telnet access . Either way the modem is still unlocked and has telnet access for stats programs. It all boils down to whether or not you want/need the web ui.
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Quick question, does that mean the webgui version has web access via IE etc while the unlocked one had no web access and can only access via Telnet? sorry for the newbie question.
No need to apologise. :)
A locked HG612 does not allow access either by the GUI or the CLI.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with, say, the original firmware image created by Asbokid will have access via the GUI and the CLI. If this HG612 has been allowed to be updated with the latter images (remotely pushed by BT) then the GUI access is lost but the CLI access remains viable.
An HG612 that has been unlocked with Wolfy's firmware image (see the initial post to this thread) will have access via the GUI and the CLI.
Does that help? :cat:
Thank you so much, my unlocked HG612 came with firmware V100R001C01B028SP10, I am wondering which should I flash, unlocked or webgui to keep my HG612 unlocked? Thanks.
webgui will allow you to keep access to the web ui, unlocked will only allow telnet access . Either way the modem is still unlocked and has telnet access for stats programs. It all boils down to whether or not you want/need the web ui.
Thank you so much. By the way do you happen to know how to disable BTagent with this new firmware? Thanks.
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# killall -KILL start btagent
More info here if you need it :)
http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612unlock.htm
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# killall -KILL start btagent
More info here if you need it :)
http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612unlock.htm
Thanks so much, since I am not using this modem in the UK (using it in Canada) I was just wondering if it will communicate with BT server.
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. . . since I am not using this modem in the UK (using it in Canada) I was just wondering if it will communicate with BT server.
There is still a lot unknown about the function and behaviour of the BTAgent.
In the HG612, it makes use of the VLAN tagged 301 to communicate "back home" to BT. So if that VLAN is deleted and the processes are killed (as Kitz has detailed, above) then the HG612 will certainly be isolated from its "home". However the BTAgent is also present in other BT supplied modem/routers. For ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+ usage there will not be a tagged VLAN, so any communication "back home" will have to occur over the ATM layer. Hence even though the HG612 was not expected to be unlocked and used other than as a pure bridge (VDSL2 to Ethernet) there is the possibility that the BTAgent software is quite generic, falling back to the ATM layer if the relevant tagged VLAN is not available for the PTM layer.
I hope that is not too confusing . . . on reading it back I have a feeling of imprecision! ???
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Hi
I running B030SP08 (unlock-web gui), how i do disable the BT update agent (TR69?) in the web gui?
Cheers
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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the default config is bridged. Plug your router WAN port into LAN1 of the HG612, and plug LAN2 into one of the LAN ports on the router. Set up the ppp settings on the router and you're done.
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Ok I've done all that except PPP settings. Also the routers ip is the same as the hg612. So I changed the Hg612 to .1 and the router to .2.
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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the default config is bridged. Plug your router WAN port into LAN1 of the HG612, and plug LAN2 into one of the LAN ports on the router. Set up the ppp settings on the router and you're done.
Thanks for your reply. What do I need to change the PPP settings too or how do I find out?
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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the default config is bridged. Plug your router WAN port into LAN1 of the HG612, and plug LAN2 into one of the LAN ports on the router. Set up the ppp settings on the router and you're done.
Thanks for your reply. What do I need to change the PPP settings too or how do I find out?
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Your ISP will give you the ppp settings you need. IIRC I only had to enter username/password for mine.
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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the default config is bridged. Plug your router WAN port into LAN1 of the HG612, and plug LAN2 into one of the LAN ports on the router. Set up the ppp settings on the router and you're done.
Thanks for your reply. What do I need to change the PPP settings too or how do I find out?
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Your ISP will give you the ppp settings you need. IIRC I only had to enter username/password for mine.
I've screen shot all the pages from my hub 5s UI so I should have all the info? I have a username but on the hub the password isn't shown.
Sorry just to clarify i don't need to do anything to the hg612. Just the router?
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Hi, I'm also running B030SP08 unlock web gui. Psychopomp1 isn't it meant to be disabled in this version by default?
My question is, I've unlocked the hg612, and an in the UI. How do I enable internet access? I want to use the hg612 as the modern and my netgear wnr2000 router.
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the default config is bridged. Plug your router WAN port into LAN1 of the HG612, and plug LAN2 into one of the LAN ports on the router. Set up the ppp settings on the router and you're done.
Thanks for your reply. What do I need to change the PPP settings too or how do I find out?
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Your ISP will give you the ppp settings you need. IIRC I only had to enter username/password for mine.
I've screen shot all the pages from my hub 5s UI so I should have all the info? I have a username but on the hub the password isn't shown.
Sorry just to clarify i don't need to do anything to the hg612. Just the router?
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Just the router, yes. The password should be available either on your ISP customer portal (look for something along the lines of 'connection settings/information') or possibly in the paperwork you received when you ordered the connection.
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I'll look for the letter I'm pretty sure I saw it on there. I'm really sorry but what is ISP customer portal?
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I'm really sorry but what is ISP customer portal?
It's the part of your ISP's website that you can log in to in order to manage your account/view your bills etc.
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Hi
I running B030SP08 (unlock-web gui), how i do disable the BT update agent (TR69?) in the web gui?
Cheers
It can not be done via the GUI. :no: You will need to issue the command line sequence (shown by Kitz in reply #141, above) from the CLI.
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If you're on residential BT Infinity the username is bthomehub@btbroadband.com and there is no password.
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Thanks guys I can't believe I got stuck here, it seems so obvious now. Just didn't notice the 'does your connect require a log in' option.
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Thanks from Canada, flashed the HG612 with B030SP08 webui, this latest firmware works fine with Bell's ADSL2+ 15/1 and VDSL2 50/10. Thank you again. Not sure if there are any improvement over the stock B028SP10 that the modem came with though. By the way, VDSL2 remote is Alcatel-Lucent 7330 (ISAM).
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There's a big difference here in the UK. The latest firmware supports G.INP which is being rolled-out somewhat selectively.
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I got a new HG612 (unlocked) to replace my ISP supplied modem. Unfortunately the HG612 does not synch. I gave the modified firmware a try (SP06), but no luck.
xdslcmd info says:
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: G.994 Training
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
...
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Idle
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
....
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: G.994 Training
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
...
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Idle
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
....
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: G.994 Training
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
...
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Idle
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 3
....
.... and so on forever. DSL light is flashing maybe 15 times, then stops for a minute, then flashing again.
My provider does ADSL2+ and requires PTM (the reason why I bought this modem / one of the few affordable PTM models available). In don't know what DSLAM they are using (California, AT&T, formerly Pacific Bell).
Sure, I tried all possible ADSL settings on the HG612, but it does not make a difference. I also checked the wire connections (measured resistance from DSL signal transformer on HG612 board to the other end of the phone cable).
The ISP provided modem is a Smartrg 360n. DSL hardware driver is A2pG038i.d25d (obviously it has the same DSL chip as the HG612). I tried this blob on the HG612, but I get a segmentation fault .
Any hints ... I would appreciate very much. Thanks.
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Tried the inner/outer setting?
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Tried the inner/outer setting?
How can I do this? GUI? shell command via telnet? I can't find such a setting in the GUI.
On the PCB only the inner pair is connected.
UPDATE:
I guess I found it. I tried
xdslcmd configure --lpair i
and
xdslcmd configure --lpair o
then
xdslcmd start --up
but no difference. Did I miss anything?
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I gave the modified firmware a try (SP06)
Latest f/w is B030SP08 (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14262.0.html).
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Just curious..I own both the HG610 and HG612, on the HG610 DSL configuration page there are two options for DSL Capability on the bottom : Bitswap Enable and SRA enable but I don't see these two options on the HG612 DSL configuration page, does that mean the HG612 does not support these options and what are they for? TIA
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Bitswap Enable -- See the Bit Swapping (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/adsl_technology.htm#bit_swapping) section on the ADSL Technology and DMT page of the main site.
SRA Enable -- See the Seamless Rate Adapation (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/adsl_technology.htm#SRA) section further down on the same page.
For each of your two devices (HG610 and HG612) in turn, establish a telnet session and enter the busybox shell. Now issue the following command --
xdslcmd profile --show
Do you see any reference to bitswap and sra?
Using my HG622 as an example (as I don't think it is worthwhile to get out my HG610 and HG612 for this example ;) ) I see --
# xdslcmd profile --show
Modulations:
G.Dmt Disabled
G.lite Disabled
T1.413 Disabled
ADSL2 Enabled
AnnexL Disabled
ADSL2+ Disabled
AnnexM Disabled
VDSL2 Disabled
Phone line pair:
Inner pair
Capability:
bitswap On
sra On
trellis On
sesdrop Off
CoMinMgn Off
24k On
phyReXmt(Us/Ds) Off/On
TpsTc AvPvAa
monitorTone: On
dynamicD: On
dynamicF: Off
SOS: On
Training Margin(Q4 in dB): -1(DEFAULT)
#
Note the two lines following the Capability: heading? :)
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Thank you so much for the explanation.
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Hi,
I have updated to 08, but the HG612 still shows 06 firmware.
Can anyone suggest why ?
Rgds
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Probably because you tried to do the upgrade via the HG612 web interface. Although this may appear to be successful, it doesn't actually work. With this type of firmware you have to do the upgrade using the power up (asbokid) method.
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Hi Eric,
Could I have a link to the method if you have time.
Rgds.
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It's here: https://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf
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Very Many thanks.
Most grateful
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You're welcome :)
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Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone running B030SP08 is having problems with Youview/multicast? I was using an ECI modem, which worked absolutely fine (well, apart from dropping over 10Mb/s sync due to G.INP :( ). Bought a HG612 and unlocked/flashed it using the normal procedure, this restored the lost sync and download speed, but now I'm having lots of picture breakup on the multicast Youview channels. I've found posts elsewhere which suggest turning on IGMP snooping, which I've done, but it's not made any difference :(
Router I'm using is an ASUS DSL-N55U, which also has snooping enabled on the wifi side, but nothing to select on the ethernet side (although as I say it wasn't a problem before on the ECI modem).
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Cheers,
Rich
P.S. Having the modem unlocked isn't essential for me, unless it's the only way to fix G.INP.
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On a slightly associated note, does anyone know if BT just turn G.INP on and the HG612 shows its enabled, or do you have do do a resynch to see if its enabled.
Alternatively is anyone from BT reading and can let us know about the rollout progress on G.INP, its all very secretive and I cannot see why.
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when it was enabled on my cab the modem resynced itself.
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Hi Rich and welcome
Wolfies f/w was based on standard f/w and he wouldnt have changed anything which would have affected IGMP. The f/w should work because it would be expected to work with BTVision. Which version of the HG612 do you have? One of the older hardware versions did cause problems with BTVision (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2012/01/27/bt-openreach-uk-replacing-faulty-fttc-superfast-broadband-modems.html).
There may be some additional settings in the HG612, but afaik (and I could be wrong) I thought that would be down to your router - however the fact that you can use it with an ECI seems to negate that. I dont use a HG612 so atm Im afraid I dont know what settings are available.
I'm pressuming that you have the new PN YouView and I dont think yet anyone knows which routers it works on or not and if it has different settings to the BT Youview (although I wouldnt think it should).
Sorry theres a lot of shoulds in the above but Im not sure what to suggest. :(
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Does anyone know how to tell with the latest firmware if vectoring is switched on ?
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Hi Rich and welcome
Wolfies f/w was based on standard f/w and he wouldnt have changed anything which would have affected IGMP. The f/w should work because it would be expected to work with BTVision. Which version of the HG612 do you have? One of the older hardware versions did cause problems with BTVision (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2012/01/27/bt-openreach-uk-replacing-faulty-fttc-superfast-broadband-modems.html).
There may be some additional settings in the HG612, but afaik (and I could be wrong) I thought that would be down to your router - however the fact that you can use it with an ECI seems to negate that. I dont use a HG612 so atm Im afraid I dont know what settings are available.
I'm pressuming that you have the new PN YouView and I dont think yet anyone knows which routers it works on or not and if it has different settings to the BT Youview (although I wouldnt think it should).
Sorry theres a lot of shoulds in the above but Im not sure what to suggest. :(
Hi Kitz,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. The modem is the 3B version. I've since found that the YV box (and yes it's on the PN service) was at the time doing 2 HD recordings, one from the air and another from an internet channel, whilst I was watching yet another HD internet channel. I wonder if the box or my connection was reaching some internal limitation...
More experimentation required - it seems to have behaved itself, in the main, since.
* The ECI issue may have been a coincidence!
Rich
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Hi
Thanks for getting back to us. Glad that youve got it sorted :)
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I've just had my SP10 HG612 replaced with an SP06 model.
Does this mean this model is older?
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B028SP06 is indeed older than B028SP10
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How does that happen then?
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You need B030SP08 (it's the B030 part which defines the major part of the version number).
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Sorry Eric, I mean how do Openreach still have old HG612s...
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No idea, but I suppose from their point of view it doesn't matter much, because it will soon get remotely updated to the latest version (but this will be locked of course).
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Hi there. Firstly, this looks like a wonderful community.
I wanted to know if B030SP08 was still the latest version? I've flashed the webgui version on my 3B however I get some issues which are really ticking me off.
I'm monitoring it using DSLstats (v5.5.4) with LAN2 connected to an eth port on my router but within 4 hours the eth connection just drops, resulting in a timeout on both the httpd & telnet until I reseat the eth cable. Has this happened to anyone else? I have a funny feeling the BTagent process has been doing this, I've killed it and it hasn't disconnected eth1 (yet)
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Yes, B030SP08 is the latest version. I use the GUI version as well, and it's totally stable. I don't know if the BTAgent process can be responsible for your issue (to be honest it sounds a bit unlikely to me) but you can configure DSLstats to kill the BTAgent process automatically by using the Custom Commands feature as below.
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Yes, B030SP08 is the latest version. I use the GUI version as well, and it's totally stable. I don't know if the BTAgent process can be responsible for your issue (to be honest it sounds a bit unlikely to me) but you can configure DSLstats to kill the BTAgent process automatically by using the Custom Commands feature as below.
Since I've killed the process the modem remained connected to the router, which is quite strange. I found it unlikely BTagent would cause this too but it was just something that was in the back of my head since it is a tool used by beatie for some questionable things. In total the modem has been connected for 11.x hours, previously the modem disconnected from the router 4 times every 3 hours before it was killed.
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but within 4 hours the eth connection just drops,
Have you looked at the LAN DHCP ' Default and Maximum lease times ' ? maybe increase them .
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I kept DHCP disabled since both ports are bridged to my router. Everything is static.
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Is there a way to change the telnet password?
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I'm wondering if perhaps if the image from the Billion 8800NL, A2pv6F039g1.d24m, might give improved performance?
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The two use different Broadcom chips.
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The two use different Broadcom chips.
Oh shoot yes! Doh ???
Is changing the telnet password a possibility?
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Product type EchoLife HG612
Device ID 10C61F-21530315408K22016691
Hardware version VER.B
Software version V100R001C01B028SP10
Firmware version A2pv6C030b.d22g
Batch number BC1P10.028.A2pv6C030b.d22g
System up time 0 days 0 hours 15 minutes 46 seconds
can i update to latest image ?
if so is there a tut somewhere i can follow i this modem as i recall is unlocked
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https://huaweihg612hacking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hg612_unlock_instructions_v1-3.pdf
Latest image here https://mega.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w!aNpjALAB
Probably best to go for the last one _webgui
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sorted.. guess i had to do it the all fashioned way holding reset while powering on.. cheers
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Hi,
Recently picked up an HG612 and installed the B030SP08 GUI software. Was all great and used with dsl stats over 1 night at home and all worked well. Now I needed to deploy the HG612 for installation at a relatives house who's line was just FTTC enabled. New huawei cabinet, they're in a rural area so still nearly 1 mile from cab, line provided today and they run the router remotely (in the home) from the master socket, so they need a separate modem.
After install all was running great BUT I can no longer access the router web gui using 192.168.1.1 and dsl stats couldn't log in. Does this mean the disabled vlan settings that I left alone do not fully disable the BT agent? Is there any (semi) permanent or selectable option to prevent the custom software installed to be overwritten?
Apologies if I've missed some quantum leap in logic.
I did try to browse the start and end of this thread but there is 15 or 16 pages so have not read every single reply.
Great software this too enabling access to the device and indeed dsl stats so thanks to the authors, editors and any other supporters.
Thanks
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Was the PC connected to HG612 LAN2 ? What is the IP address of the PC?
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Hi,
Now I needed to deploy the HG612 for installation at a relatives house who's line was just FTTC enabled. New huawei cabinet,
The HG612 looks like it was set-up correctly at your premises this sounds like an IP conflict on the relatives router, some routers will have its own Gateway GUI set at 192.168.1.1 so that will differently conflict with the HG612 if that is the case you will need to access the router and change the DHCP settings.
And set the Routers gateway to 192.168.1.254
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Was the PC connected to HG612 LAN2 ? What is the IP address of the PC?
Yes, the HG612 was connected to the PC using LAN2. Not sure, the NIC was set to dhcp and I didn't have time to delve into it further as they had me fixing other pc issues.
They use a netgear router and it's web gui is indeed also on 192.168.1.1, but I thought plugging directly into Lan2 on the HG612 would've avoided the conflict?
Thanks for the help so far.
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The PC may not have had a valid IP address then, it should have been set to a static IP address as per Asbokid's unlock instructions.
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It sounds like a router / HG612 IP conflict.
Some people change the modem ip. I just changed the router ip. What router have your relatives using? I know my asus rt-ac66u has the default same ip as the modem. When setting the router up i changed the ip. Maybe unplug the modem then you'd be able to access the router to change it in there?
If there isnt a way to change it on the router then probably the modem would be easier to do as well.
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The PC may not have had a valid IP address then, it should have been set to a static IP address as per Asbokid's unlock instructions.
Yes, OK, I will try that next time I'm down there. I did set the NIC to the static to unlock but i didn't seem to need to keep it like that to access and run dsl stats from my home. I.e i just reverted it back to default DHCP and everything worked fine at home.
Think their router is a Netgear wndr3700 or 3800 but would need to confirm on next visit, there is certainly a few config options available.
Thanks
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Hi
I'm having issues applying this new firmware to my HG612.
Model: HG612 3B
It had previously been unlocked, but I couldn't remember the password, so I followed this (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612hacking.htm) guid.
Set my laptop with the IP Address 192.168.1.100
Powered on the modem with the reset button pressed in and after 5 sends released and went to http://192.168.1.1
I then applied 'bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui' via the web page.
The modem rebooted and for a couple of seconds was pingable. Now nothing.
I can't browse or ping it.
I've tried again and selected the 'bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_unlocked' file. This resulted in the same.
Any idea how I can resolve this ?
Thanks :)
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Sorted.
I tried it again and got the same result.
So while powered up, I held down the reset button for 5 seconds.
After that I could connect to it fine.
I've changed the admin password and the LAN IP Address, are there any other settings I need to configure ?
Thanks
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I've changed the admin password and the LAN IP Address, are there any other settings I need to configure ?
Just be aware that changing the admin login password only changes it for GUI access. For CLI access (telnet or ssh), it will still be the word "admin".
As for changes in the default settings, it really depends upon what is your ultimate aim . . . :-\
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If the intention is to just use it as a modem, neither of those changes were necessary. Or any others.
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Thanks for the replies.
I plan to just use it as a modem, with an Asus AC68U connected to it.
I changed the IP so it can be accessed by my LAN and the password to secure it a bit more.
Anyway to change the telnet password ?
Thanks.
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I plan to just use it as a modem, with an Asus AC68U connected to it.
I changed the IP so it can be accessed by my LAN . . .
I assumed that you changed the IPv4 address of the modem so that there would not be a clash with any following router device -- thus allowing monitoring of the circuit's statistics by connecting the LAN2 port of the modem to a LAN port of the router.
Anyway to change the telnet password ?
People have looked, in the past, but, to date, there have not been any reports of success.
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The PC may not have had a valid IP address then, it should have been set to a static IP address as per Asbokid's unlock instructions.
Yes, on a recent second visit, set the ip address on the laptop NIC adaptor settings per instructions and everything worked again and stats accessible. So the VLAN settings disabled by default with the unlocked software do seem to disable auto BT updates successfully then? Thanks.
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Yes, ptm 1.301 is the backdoor into the modem and it's disabled.
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Any new updates for this or is this the last version indefinitely?
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afaik, its the last version.
Its finding someone with the ability... and time to be able to put into this.
Asbokid did the first version then H-wolf did the last one so that it works with g.inp.
iirc b*cat and BE also played a part, along with a couple of others along the way.
None of them got any recompense and did so on behalf of the DSL community for free.
That's why some of us thought it was a bit off when certain people of ebay started charging up to £90 for an unlocked HG612.
None of us have a problem if someone wants to make a little bit of beer money by installing the f/w on for those that dont think they are capable of doing it themselves, but I understand that even Asbokid thought it was taking the michael and in effect ripping off people to charge that much. Far better IMHO to buy something like a Zyxel or Billion which is cheaper and should hopefully have fully supported f/w.
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Do you think it's possible to extract the latest modem firmware from the Zyxel/Billion and implement into HG612 firmware?
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Any attempt to upload a firmware image from an alternative device to an HG612 will fail. Big time. :no:
What might be possible would be to extract the proprietary Broadcom driver binary file from the firmware image of alternative device and then transplant that driver binary into the HG612 image. :-\
(Obviously that would only be sensible if the version of the driver is newer in the firmware image for the alternative device.)
There would be a lot of "ifs and buts" involved in such a task and it is not something that I would be willing to undertake.
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Do you think it's possible to extract the latest modem firmware from the Zyxel/Billion and implement into HG612 firmware?
unless the hardware is identical no, and even if it is identical then the job would be very difficult.
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Any attempt to upload a firmware image from an alternative device to an HG612 will fail. Big time. :no:
What might be possible would be to extract the proprietary Broadcom driver binary file from the firmware image of alternative device and then transplant that driver binary into the HG612 image. :-\
(Obviously that would only be sensible if the version of the driver is newer in the firmware image for the alternative device.)
There would be a lot of "ifs and buts" involved in such a task and it is not something that I would be willing to undertake.
Yep, that's what I meant. I wonder if anyone is willing to try this?
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Thanks for the replies.
I plan to just use it as a modem, with an Asus AC68U connected to it.
I changed the IP so it can be accessed by my LAN and the password to secure it a bit more.
Anyway to change the telnet password ?
Thanks.
get the modem setup. use a different subnet for example I set my modem ip to 10.0.0.1
then enable and telnet into the asus router and enter these 2 commands. the 2 of 10.0.0.2 can be any number you like as long as it doesn't conflict with the modem, but this is what i use.
ifconfig `nvram get wan0_ifname`:0 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o `nvram get wan0_ifname` -j MASQUERADE
I'm not sure how to use the scripting to make sure the commands get run at startup. you might need Asus merlin firmware for that.
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Out of interest, what is the latest 'official' firmware for the HG612 and does it have anything that the August 2014 version doesn't?
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Good question. I don't even know if the official firmware supports G.INP :hmm:
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I dont know the latest version... but yes it does.
H-Wolfs version is based on the BT g.inp update.
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It would be nice to have an update to this firmware, it is two years old, :fingers:
* I understand it's alot of work, however, whoever undertakes this task, will be helping people who can't afford to pay for a router (because you cant buy vdsl2 modem on there own anymore, only combos >:D) from netgear and other respected networking manufacturers
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What do you expect a firmware update to give you?
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What do you expect a firmware update to give you?
Perhaps higher sync as on the Zyxel 8324/8924. :fingers:
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Do you think it's possible to extract the latest modem firmware from the Zyxel/Billion and implement into HG612 firmware?
Newer drivers, added features and other improvements.. :fingers:
A computer Bios always has improvements, even after they have stop supporting them, example :
http://bfy.tw/5XJj ::)
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It's not a computer, it doesn't have a bios (computers don't these days either), it's just a modem. At the moment, it does all it needs to do and it probably supports G.Vector too. I can't think of any additional features that are required.
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Dray, I'm finding my self disagreeing with you, apologies :(
It's not a computer, it doesn't have a bios (computers don't these days either), it's just a modem. At the moment, it does all it needs to do and it probably supports G.Vector too. I can't think of any additional features that are required.
Most computers do have a bios of some kind, A uefi, is just a nother way of saying it, if it can be updated its some kind of firmware or code that can be changed, (updated)
maybe if we had some extra features, we would not need to type as many guides, as we all seem to be doing, like a tick box, to make it send the UI over the wan port, not just that, but as mentioned before, by someone else, there are newer drivers in a different bit of hardware, which could be moved to the HF612, with the right know how ?
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In my opinion if it ain't broke why try to fix it
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Dray, I'm finding my self disagreeing with you, apologies :(
It's not a computer, it doesn't have a bios (computers don't these days either), it's just a modem. At the moment, it does all it needs to do and it probably supports G.Vector too. I can't think of any additional features that are required.
Most computers do have a bios of some kind, A uefi, is just a nother way of saying it, if it can be updated its some kind of firmware or code that can be changed, (updated)
maybe if we had some extra features, we would not need to type as many guides, as we all seem to be doing, like a tick box, to make it send the UI over the wan port, not just that, but as mentioned before, by someone else, there are newer drivers in a different bit of hardware, which could be moved to the HF612, with the right know how ?
Yes I have reason to believe the latest modem firmware for the latest broadcom chipset could somehow be ported over on the HG612 if someone really want to try. Obviously certain newer hardware only features will never be ported over, unless it's emulated in software?
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Not, sfaik, without rebuilding the f/w. Not very important if the HG612 is only providing an ethernet bridge. Which is how it is configured and shipped by BT. But if the Huawei is re-configured by the end-user to run pppd on the device itself then it's very important to have an appropriate firewall rule chain. With rules to deny or drop WAN-side connection attempts to telnetd (and sshd, etc).
Talking of passwords, the f/w for the 2701 has a very good (and bizarre) one to secure it. Perfect for warding off the evil spirits out there. And evil smells, too!
EDIT: Just to add, the 2701 is ostensibly very secure since sshd although included in the f/w is disabled by default.
cheers, a
It would be a nice touch if who ever takes on the task of building an update to the HG612 firmware, would also make it so ... what ever password is set in the User Interface is also applyed to the telnet services, because at the moment, the telnet service stays the same default password,
I've tried the command
passwd
user password
however telnet wont let me set a new password >:D
@Dray - it's got a security flaw :-X
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Hello all. I'm trying to follow the instructions to flash my HG612 3B original firmware V100R001C01B028SP10 with the B030SP08 GUI firmware from the well known mega.nz page and I can get the firmware to flash, but when I go back to 192.168.1.1, the echo life GUI page is there but it doesn't accept 'admin' 'admin' as the username or password so I'm unable to access the GUI after the flashing.
And I've not come across anyone with a similar problem. If anyone could shed some light or point me towards the correct thread it'd be much appreciated.
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I'm obviously not patient enough. Tried the flash with a different browser after a long restart and it's working now!
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I'm obviously not patient enough. Tried the flash with a different browser after a long restart and it's working now!
Just spotted your posts. I had exactly the same problem. Patience is a virtue apparently 😉
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Hi all
ive just updated my modem to B030SP08 and all appears ok although i didnt disconnect the actual phone line first ??
does that really matter ?
my setup
WWW <- Modem <- Netgear R7000 Nighthawk (dd-wrt)
The modem status reports my download speed at 53179 and 11532 upload, but when i do a speedtest through my Netgear R7000 Nighthawk router , i only get 39000 download and 9000 upload ? how am i losing 10000 ?
also the modem Ethernet stats shows Max bitRate 100, but my router is 1000 bitrate, am i losing out on speed here ?
also, QoS is enabled by default, do i need it enabled if just using the modem as a modem ? Do i need to change any other settings from default after flashing ? i.e. IGMP settings, ATM connection settings ?
(I disabled the modem firewall as i have it enabled on the R7000 router, is this correct way ?)
thanks in advance
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The modem status reports my download speed at 53179 and 11532 upload, but when i do a speedtest through my Netgear R7000 Nighthawk router , i only get 39000 download and 9000 upload ? how am i losing 10000 ?
Are you on a 40/10MB product? If so, your maximum speeds will be capped at this speed.
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Are you on a 40/10MB product? If so, your maximum speeds will be capped at this speed.
i am on BT infinity 2 (up to 76 mb or something like that)
after flashing the modem i noticed no difference whatsoever in speed up or down.
im wondering is my router slowing things down somehow ...? ???
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You should check your IP Profile. You can do that here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=BrasChecker
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You should check your IP Profile. You can do that here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=BrasChecker
um....results from the link was;
Looks like BT refused to test, possibly because a speed test or BRAS check has been run recently which prevents this tool from working. Try again in a few hours.
Debug: BT no BRAS info
weird since i didnt run the test before... :(
{UPDATE}
ran test again and got;
Number: ************
The current Downstream BRAS rate is: 49.22 Mbps
The current Upstream BRAS rate is: 20 Mbps
so how am i losing 10mb down and 9mb up ??
any suggestions on ;
(Modem Advanced settings)
Modem Firewall on/off ? (on on modem and off on router or visa versa ?)
Modem IGMP snoop/proxy on/off ? (router has these options too ?)
Modem QoS on/off ? (modem says "enabled?" my router has this option but is set to "disabled")
(Modem Basic Settings)
ATM values (i havent touched these from default) im on BT infinity 2 (up to 76mb)
i found these setting listed by someone which differ somewhat from the default modem settings , should i be using these below in my modem/router configuration ?
Forget ATM, you want PTM.
Under PTM you need ptm1 with DSL latency Path 0 and PTM priority Normal
Under WAN you want ptm1.101 with WAN connection ticked
Service List INTERNET
No port binding
Connection mode ROUTE
Connection type PPPOE
WAN 802.1q ticked
VLAN ID 101
WAN 802.1p ticked
Value 2
NAT ticked
Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Password bt
in my current setup could i use these settings (above) and then change my router to connection type (Auto) and let the modem do the PPPoE connection, to basically save the router from doing it (i.e. better to let the modem do it right from the start as such ?)
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It would be a nice touch if who ever takes on the task of building an update to the HG612 firmware, would also make it so ... what ever password is set in the User Interface is also applyed to the telnet services, because at the moment, the telnet service stays the same default password,
I've tried the command
passwd
user password
however telnet wont let me set a new password >:D
@Dray - it's got a security flaw :-X
Bit of a late reply to this but it will help others anyway who are worried about not being able to change the admin telnet password.
Log in to the HG612 web interface
Create a new user with a password you want to use as the admin telnet password and submit it to save
Download the configuration file to your desktop and open it with something like Notepad++ I use scite on linux and it reads the .conf file perfectly
Search the file for the username you just created next to it you will see Userpassword="jsofsjfsjfj899" copy the part in quotes as this is the hashed password of the user you just created.
Now search for TelnetUserName="admin" next to that is the hashed admin password inside the "" replace that with the hashed password you just copied from the new user you created. Save the file go ack to HG612 web interface and upload the modified .conf file you just created.
Now try logging in to telnet with admin and the password you just created, also try logging in with admin admin to see that it no longer works for telnet.
No more telnet with default password ;)
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um....results from the link was;
Looks like BT refused to test, possibly because a speed test or BRAS check has been run recently which prevents this tool from working. Try again in a few hours.
Debug: BT no BRAS info
weird since i didnt run the test before... :(
{UPDATE}
ran test again and got;
Number: ************
The current Downstream BRAS rate is: 49.22 Mbps
The current Upstream BRAS rate is: 20 Mbps
so how am i losing 10mb down and 9mb up ??
any suggestions on ;
(Modem Advanced settings)
Modem Firewall on/off ? (on on modem and off on router or visa versa ?)
Modem IGMP snoop/proxy on/off ? (router has these options too ?)
Modem QoS on/off ? (modem says "enabled?" my router has this option but is set to "disabled")
(Modem Basic Settings)
ATM values (i havent touched these from default) im on BT infinity 2 (up to 76mb)
i found these setting listed by someone which differ somewhat from the default modem settings , should i be using these below in my modem/router configuration ?
Forget ATM, you want PTM.
Under PTM you need ptm1 with DSL latency Path 0 and PTM priority Normal
Under WAN you want ptm1.101 with WAN connection ticked
Service List INTERNET
No port binding
Connection mode ROUTE
Connection type PPPOE
WAN 802.1q ticked
VLAN ID 101
WAN 802.1p ticked
Value 2
NAT ticked
Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Password bt
This is what my set up looks like using the HG612 as modem/bridge to my archer C7
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvuYGXVI.png&hash=dd93a83495e04238ab2ff55734146c0e0e47e3c3)
As for your speed issue log in to the hg612 web interface and look under Status > Wan > xDSL
And see what the values for these 2 report
The max your line supports
Line status
Attainable rate downstream (kbit/s) 59852
What its actually synced at
Statistics
Line rate downstream (kbit/s) 54999
From that you can see my max line speed is about 60 but its only synced at 55
any suggestions on ;
(Modem Advanced settings)
Modem Firewall on/off ? (on on modem and off on router or visa versa ?)
Modem IGMP snoop/proxy on/off ? (router has these options too ?)
Modem QoS on/off ? (modem says "enabled?" my router has this option but is set to "disabled")
(Modem Basic Settings)
ATM values (i havent touched these from default) im on BT infinity 2 (up to 76mb)
Firewall I have disabled only needed in routing mode, I checked on grc.com using shields up and everything reported secure
IGMP snooping and proxy I have both untcked
QOS I have turned off
ATM is removed
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You should disable modem QOS as this will give you an extra 1Mb upload, but I don't think that's the problem.
You should definitely have the modem firewall on otherwise the HG612 web interface is available worldwide. I have mine set to Standard.
What speedtest are you using?
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This is what my set up looks like using the HG612 as modem/bridge to my archer C7
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvuYGXVI.png&hash=dd93a83495e04238ab2ff55734146c0e0e47e3c3)
As for your speed issue log in to the hg612 web interface and look under Status > Wan > xDSL
And see what the values for these 2 report
The max your line supports
Line status
Attainable rate downstream (kbit/s) 59852
What its actually synced at
Statistics
Line rate downstream (kbit/s) 54999
From that you can see my max line speed is about 60 but its only synced at 55
thanks , my stats from modem are ;
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 52124 11532
Line rate (kbit/s) 53179 11532
im gcurious about these "alternative" modem settings though ;
Forget ATM, you want PTM.
Under PTM you need ptm1 with DSL latency Path 0 and PTM priority Normal
Under WAN you want ptm1.101 with WAN connection ticked
Service List INTERNET
No port binding
Connection mode ROUTE
Connection type PPPOE
WAN 802.1q ticked
VLAN ID 101
WAN 802.1p ticked
Value 2
NAT ticked
Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Password bt
My "method behind the madness" is that im thinking , why let the router have to do extra work with the PPPoE settings running, when i can set these directly into the modem and let the modem do the work. Maybe im thinking wrong ..?
i might try it and see what happens....lol!
not sure though if i need to change a router setting from "Gateway" to "Router" as it says in the router help, "Operating Mode:
If the router is hosting your Internet connection, select Gateway mode. If another router exists on your network, select Router mode."
should i leave the router at Gateway if using the alternative modem PPPoE settings ?
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You should disable modem QOS as this will give you an extra 1Mb upload, but I don't think that's the problem.
You should definitely have the modem firewall on otherwise the HG612 web interface is available worldwide. I have mine set to Standard.
What speedtest are you using?
ok, i quickly reinabled the firewall to Standard setting... :o
I changed the QoS setting (unticked) but there is no SUBMIT button ? maybe its not needed or do i need to reboot modem to take effect ?
I use Speedtest.net for speedtesting. I try to use London servers (even though i am using OpenDNS servers as my static DNS settings in my router.)
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Under Basic > WAN do you have ptm1.301 enabled? This is BT's TR069 and should be disabled
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Under Basic > WAN do you have ptm1.301 enabled? This is BT's TR069 and should be disabled
yes ptm1.301 is "disabled" unticked
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ok, i quickly reinabled the firewall to Standard setting... :o
I changed the QoS setting (unticked) but there is no SUBMIT button ? maybe its not needed or do i need to reboot modem to take effect ?
I use Speedtest.net for speedtesting. I try to use London servers (even though i am using OpenDNS servers as my static DNS settings in my router.)
Try the speedtest here
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
QOS I just unticked and deleted all the rules that were made in the next tab
I added a response to my earlier post about the settings you asked about
Firewall I have disabled only needed in routing mode, I checked on grc.com using shields up and everything reported secure
IGMP snooping and proxy I have both untcked
QOS I have turned off
ATM is removed
On my Archer C7 I have the wan mode set to PPPoE
Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Password left empty
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Try the speedtest here
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
QOS I just unticked and deleted all the rules that were made in the next tab
I added a response to my earlier post about the settings you asked about
Firewall I have disabled only needed in routing mode, I checked on grc.com using shields up and everything reported secure
IGMP snooping and proxy I have both untcked
QOS I have turned off
ATM is removed
On my Archer C7 I have the wan mode set to PPPoE
Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Password left empty
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F17945630.png&hash=b8f3c0455925969ff0147fa0f2a93c738baa0682)
but modem stats are somewhat higher i.e.
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 52124 11532
Line rate (kbit/s) 53179 11532
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If you have an ethernet port on your PC you can just test from the PC to the modem by setting up a PPPoE session on the PC. This will bypass your router and LAN completely.
It may just be the ethernet cable from the modem to the router, so try a different cable.
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(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fspeedtest%2F17945630.png&hash=b8f3c0455925969ff0147fa0f2a93c738baa0682)
but modem stats are somewhat higher i.e.
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 52124 11532
Line rate (kbit/s) 53179 11532
The modem seems to be connected at the correct speed so there must be something happening between it and the R7000
I take it you have port 1 of the HG612 connected to the wan port of the R7000?
What settings do you have configured for the wan connection on the R7000?
What settings do you have on the HG612 wan section like the screenshot I posted of mine earlier?
Have you got DHCP turned off an the HG612 lan settings and using the R7000 to handle DHCP on the lan?
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The modem seems to be connected at the correct speed so there must be something happening between it and the R7000
I take it you have port 1 of the HG612 connected to the wan port of the R7000? Yes
What settings do you have configured for the wan connection on the R7000? WAN Type is PPPoE with usual user and pass, i use OpenDNS servers (better than BT's) 208.67.222.222 and .220 .220
What settings do you have on the HG612 wan section like the screenshot I posted of mine earlier? Same as yours
Have you got DHCP turned off an the HG612 lan settings and using the R7000 to handle DHCP on the lan? Yes
(https://s13.postimg.org/xgk3of9s7/Screenshot.jpg)
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(https://s13.postimg.org/xgk3of9s7/Screenshot.jpg)
Strange, the only thing different on my Archer C7 to your R7000 is I have the password field left blank (ddwrt doesn't like that though apparently) and the MTU is 1480
I would try what Dray suggested and see if that gets you a higher connection speed.
If it does I would update the R7000 to the latest firmware (if its not already on it) and try a 30/30/30 reset starting with a fresh config, maybe even try the latest netgear firmware see if thats any different if you still cant get a good speed with ddwrt
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Strange, the only thing different on my Archer C7 to your R7000 is I have the password field left blank (ddwrt doesn't like that though apparently) and the MTU is 1480
I would try what Dray suggested and see if that gets you a higher connection speed.
If it does I would update the R7000 to the latest firmware (if its not already on it) and try a 30/30/30 reset starting with a fresh config, maybe even try the latest netgear firmware see if thats any different if you still cant get a good speed with ddwrt
i cant use any newer dd-wrt firmware than what im on (v3.0-r30880M kongac (11/14/16) - Otherwise i have major issues (router lockups etc). So im stuck with this version for now.
I will try the things mentioned although im using a CAT6 cable from router to modem, is that a bad thing ? I thought a CAT6 would be better with having thicker copper wiring ? One other suggestion (as daft as it sounds) was to enable Qos on the router but set the download limit to 0, thus enabling full speed. will post results later thanks
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i cant use any newer dd-wrt firmware than what im on (v3.0-r30880M kongac (11/14/16) - Otherwise i have major issues (router lockups etc). So im stuck with this version for now.
I will try the things mentioned although im using a CAT6 cable from router to modem, is that a bad thing ? I thought a CAT6 would be better with having thicker copper wiring ? One other suggestion (as daft as it sounds) was to enable Qos on the router but set the download limit to 0, thus enabling full speed. will post results later thanks
I have cat6 cable going from my router to modem its fine they are backwards compatible, though the HG612 only has 100Mb ports compared 1000Mb on the router so its a wast of a good cable.
If you just disabled QOS it should do the same thing, make sure theres no bandwidth limit set in there if you have it enabled.
I would say its more likely than not the firmware on the R7000 that is the problem, DDWRT uses its own more up to date Linux kernel and the Broadcom proprietary stuff is not used as its closed source so you have no hardware acceleration running DDWRT, you get the same problem with Openwrt and Broadcom such as my C7 you lose speed and hardware nat.
Your best bet if you want to run third party firmware is Shibbys version of Tomato seems to support hardware acceleration.. or the latest Netgear firmware I bet one of those will fix the issue.
Edit: Oh there is also a port of Merlin asuswrt for netgear routers which will have hardware acceleration enabled
http://xvtx.ru/xwrt/index.htm
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thanks all for the advice
Ive tried that many settings i cant remember how , but i managed to squeeze out 47mb download
i added this to the start-up script , maybe it helped , maybe not... but i seem to be getting slightly better results.
# echo 262144 > /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_max
# echo 262144 > /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max
# echo "4096 16384 262144" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_wmem
# echo "4096 87380 262144" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_rmem
echo 1000 > /proc/sys/net/core/netdev_max_backlog
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Apologies for jumping straight in without doing the hi this is me bit....bit I was researching regarding the openreach modem....when I moved in to my currently house the previous owner had left his HG612 and his HH3....well a few weeks down the line I got ADSL only to discover later that I could get infinity which is what I am on now.
Further research I found this site about unlocking said modem.....this I have done....
However, I noticed the stats on the modem between attainable and the actual connection....so further searching brought me here and to this particular thread.
So, do I reflash the modem or leave as it is.....btw you'll also notice that I have no idea how to embed an image :)
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IIRC the GUI stats on the HG612 are somewhat buggy.
You'll get a true picture of your connection state if you telnet in and use 'xdslctl info --stats'.
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What makes you want to reflash the modem and what do you hope to achieve by it?
As just pointed out the CRC/FEC stats are incorrect on the GUI, with the true stats only obtainable via telnet.
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IIRC the GUI stats on the HG612 are somewhat buggy.
You'll get a true picture of your connection state if you telnet in and use 'xdslctl info --stats'.
Thanks for the reply but that didn't work, however this did xdslcmd info --stats output;
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 29751 Kbps, Downstream rate = 98428 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 73322 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.0 15.0
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.0 3.5
VDSL2 framing
Path 0
B: 47 237
M: 1 1
T: 64 42
R: 16 16
S: 0.0208 0.3781
L: 24576 5374
D: 1553 1
I: 64 127
N: 64 254
Counters
Path 0
OHF: 17988974 1840377
OHFErr: 14 21
RS: 310209536 1328021
RSCorr: 62623 206
RSUnCorr: 76 0
Path 0
HEC: 9 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 3393735227 0
Data Cells: 67279851 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0
ES: 76 296
SES: 0 2
UAS: 56 56
AS: 24081
Path 0
INP: 4.00 0.00
PER: 1.33 3.97
delay: 8.00 0.00
OR: 120.00 64.47
Bitswap: 161 6
Total time = 1 days 8 hours 10 min 14 sec
FEC: 1236324 1723
CRC: 475 354
ES: 76 296
SES: 0 2
UAS: 56 56
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 14 sec
FEC: 229 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 397 1
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 10 min 14 sec
FEC: 80466 377
CRC: 19 37
ES: 4 24
SES: 0 0
UAS: 39 39
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 170120 221
CRC: 72 57
ES: 10 45
SES: 0 2
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 6 hours 41 min 21 sec
FEC: 62623 206
CRC: 14 21
ES: 3 15
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
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What makes you want to reflash the modem and what do you hope to achieve by it?
Well the last time I looked at my 'attainable' it was around 78428 and I was connecting at the same as I am now, obviously something has changed at the cab or the exchange + there maybe a difference with the flash firmware, because TBH I did this a few years ago, so I have no idea if things have changed or moved forward.
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Looking again at your screenshot, you're on an old firmware.
The latest firmware can be found here (https://mega.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w)
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Looking again at your screenshot, you're on an old firmware.
The latest firmware can be found here (https://mega.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w)
Thanks...always worth asking :) now the dumb question.....06 or 08 ::)
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08
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Thanks, looks like a bank holiday weekend job then :)
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Hoping this is a suitable place to ask about a trouble I've just encountered with the B030SP08 HG612 firmware, namely suddenly losing LAN2 access.
By "suddenly" I mean that the HG612 (working fine with DSLstats etc for over a year) was in a drawer for a month, while I tried another modem (Zyxel VMG1312-B10D).
For various reasons I decided to switch back to the Huawei. I disconnected from my ISP, powered down the modem, and commenced to fiddle with the (re-powered) Huawei (over ethernet) with the DSL disconnected (to reset some sync caps before reconnecting), only to find that LAN2 was completely, um, dead, unresponsive (no LAN2 light, no ethernet connection, despite cable swapping, pings, nmaps, etc etc). Boo, mouldy chiz. After a lot of faffing around (not yet reflashing the modem firmware), I reconnected (the HG612) anyway (without my favourite pre-connection tweaks), as my family returns soon, and can't face their aggro. (Via the HG612). Of course, mydslwebstats can't record any more.
Questions:
1. Is it abnormal, or not unexpectable, to lose LAN2 on a HG612 like that, just because it's been in a drawer for a while? (I'm pretty sure I disabled remote firmware updates...)
2. Is the rational thing to do to reflash the firmware? I guess so, but could B030SP08 "fade away" somehow in a drawer?? Or the hardware port just conk out??
3. Or should I try the advanced voodoo of "SignedAdam" (in these forums; and on an AAISP page: https://support.aa.net.uk/Router_-_EchoLife_HG612) of going "one wire", and
running stats connection etc over the same wire that carries the DSL connection to the router. ? Or bin the Huawei, and stick with the Zyxel (that didn't seem to handle my circuit as well as the Huawei, as far as I could make out), and stop obsessing about bloody broadband?
Grateful for any advice/illumination, or reminders of something I might've overlooked.
UPDATE: breaking news, I am an utter moron! Having tried to reflash (without success) my modem with unlocked firmware, checking (almost) everything carefully, I noticed.. I was not reflashing my HG612 but an elderly ECI modem given me on initial FTTC install. I really have surpassed myself. Time for my euthanasia.
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Join the club. :D
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Hi
I've just moved house and FTTC provider so thought I'd get the stats from my previously unlocked HG612.
I've connected to LAN2, ensured my laptop is in the 192.168.1.x range but I can't get any sort of connection from it.
I've been using it on PlusNet connection for at least 2 years, and probably haven't accessed it in that time.
Could it have locked itself ? What do I need to do to get access again ?
Thanks
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Did you give the HG612 an address in a different subnet previously?
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Not that I can remember !
If I had it would have been on 192.168.18.x
I've scanned both 192.168.1.x and 192.168.18.x and nothing shows relating to the modem.
Any other ideas ?
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Do you use dslstats? If so what IP address does it have for the modem?
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I used to use dslstats but that was on my old pc so I've no way of knowing what the settings were !
Anything else I can try ?
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have you tried setting your laptop in the 192.168.0.x range just in case the modem is in that range etc
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I haven't yet...I'll try that tomorrow.
Is it possible to default the modem would that cause and issues ?
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Just try a long reset . . . Press and hold the Reset button for 10 - 20 seconds, then release it. The HG612 will revert back to the 192.168.1.1 IPv4 address.
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If you have connected the laptop direct to LAN2 with an Ethernet cable, have you also disabled the WiFi on the laptop? I was recently swapping between using my ZyXEL as router/modem and using an HG612 and ended up with both on the same IP (192.168.1.1) which caused me a little issue! To check you can access the HG612 interface and determine it's IP I'd suggest trying with the router powered off first then you know there is no conflict.
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Sorted.
Connected to the HG612 and ran angry IP scanner again this time ensuring I had disconnected for the WiFi. Turns out the modem is on the same IP address as a new switch I've installed.
Now I have full access to it :)
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Turns out the modem is on the small IP address as a new switch I've installed.
Now I have full access to it :)
A good result.
It's always those little things that end up causing the most trouble! ;)
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True.. I had issues with pfSense at first, then I remembered I'd setup some limiters to restrict bandwidth.. soon as I removed them every thing worked correctly.
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I have a hg612 unlocked a few years ago recently called back into use.
I don't think I have G.inp on my exchange yet.
Is it worth updating the firmware to howlingwolfs latest firmware just to be up to date? Or is there any disadvantage to being on the g.inp one if I don't have g.imp?
Thanks
Product type EchoLife HG612
Device ID 1C1D67-21530315408K19018726
Hardware version VER.B
Software version V100R001C01B030SP06
Firmware version A2pv6C038m.d24j
Batch number BC1P6.030.A2pv6C038m.d24j
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Is it worth updating the firmware to howlingwolfs latest firmware just to be up to date? Or is there any disadvantage to being on the g.inp one if I don't have g.imp?
Two questions, two brief answers: Yes and no. ;)
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Two questions, two brief answers: Yes and no. ;)
Great. I will give it a go then.
Thanks very much.
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I don't think I have G.inp on my exchange yet.
Is it worth updating the firmware to howlingwolfs latest firmware just to be up to date? Or is there any disadvantage to being on the g.inp one if I don't have g.imp?
Thanks
Looks like your cabinet is an ECI cabinet.
No G.INP on them at the moment but it should be getting rolled out on the near future so definitely worth updating the firmware.
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Just flashed SP08. Now have the GUI login but can't get in with admin/admin. Have I missed something somewhere?
Is SP08 still the go to or is there a later version somewhere?
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Just flashed SP08. Now have the GUI login but can't get in with admin/admin. Have I missed something somewhere?
No, nothing has been changed. The correct, default, credentials are admin/admin.
Perhaps, with nothing connected to the HG612 (other than the PSU, of course), give it a "long reset". Press the reset button, hold it depressed for 15 - 20 seconds and then release it. Wait a couple of minutes and then power-cycle the device.
Is SP08 still the go to or is there a later version somewhere?
As shown in red, at the head of the opening post to this thread, the most recent firmware image is B030SP08.
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No, nothing has been changed. The correct, default, credentials are admin/admin.
Perhaps, with nothing connected to the HG612 (other than the PSU, of course), give it a "long reset". Press the reset button, hold it depressed for 15 - 20 seconds and then release it. Wait a couple of minutes and then power-cycle the device.
As shown in red, at the head of the opening post to this thread, the most recent firmware image is B030SP08.
Yes I saw the red thanks but I also saw it was four years old, so thought it worth asking the question.
No joy with a reset so looks like it's borked. The password field seems defaulted to nine dotted characters. Is this normal or maybe indicative of it expecting a nine character password?
Edit
Sorted!
Firefox had cached a password for a previous device on the default IP address & instead of offering to change the credentials, just blocked the login. Changed browser & all is good. :)
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You could have deleted the cached login from Firefox and not had to resort to a different browser!
about:preferences#privacy
Saved Logins
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The cached credentials are still valid for another device, so I didn't want to delete it. That's why I used another browser instead.
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I presume you mean that you have two devices with the same IP that you a access at different times. If so there is a way round that.
Put entries in your hosts file:
192.168.1.1 HG612
192.168.1.1 Otherdevice
Now access them by name and not IP. Firefox will cache the passwords against the names.
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I presume you mean that you have two devices with the same IP that you a access at different times...
Only the once for the HG612 as I changed it's IP address as soon as I got into it. ;)
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Is it still possible to get hold of this firmware?
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Is it still possible to get hold of this firmware?
Yes. The link (https://mega.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w), shown in the very first post of this thread, is still valid.
And while I think of it: "Welcome to the kitz forum." :)
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Thanks for the welcome,
the link isn't working for me at the moment, i will investigate if its something my end. My money is on over eager virus checker etc ...
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. . . My money is on over eager virus checker etc ...
That could well be the problem. If you are unable to resolve it, I could (temporarily) put a copy of the firmware somewhere for you to download.
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Link is working OK right now...
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i can confirm that the link now works for me.
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Good. Thanks for confirming. :)
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Hi folks, new here but about to attempt to re-use an old HG612 V3B that I've had spare for ages. It used to be the modem for my old Sky Fibre setup prior to SkyQ migration. Going to replace my Sky Q hub with a Unifi USG plus (hopefully) this HG612. I've downloaded the SP08 firmware with the web interface using the link on page 1 of this thread and flashed the HG612, and can now login to the web UI. First step done! Many thanks for the work to create this....
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Just registered to say hi and thanks for the firmware, Bought a cheap Hg612 on ebay to go with my honor 3 router so i could bin the home hub 6 and everything working fine with new firmware so thanks again.
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Is SP08 from Openreach directly?
Any chance of putting a newer driver in a custom firmware, does such a thing exist
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Is SP08 from Openreach directly?
Yes, Wolfy took the original SP08 Openreach image and modified it.
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Is SP08 from Openreach directly?
Any chance of putting a newer driver in a custom firmware, does such a thing exist
You can change the xdsl driver just the same as was done on the Zyxels to fix Vectoring issues.
You need to use a version designed specifically for the chipset in the HG612.
It's a very old device and old chipset and very unlikely you will find a newer driver that has any benefit.
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You can change the xdsl driver just the same as was done on the Zyxels to fix Vectoring issues.
You need to use a certain designed specifically for the chipset in the HG612.
It's a very old device and old chipset and very unlikely you will find a newer driver that has any benefit.
Thought so. I’ll stick with a newer modem.
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Following what I've read in this thread and others on this forum I got hold of a HG612 to take over as a modem in bridge mode paired with a Google WiFi router, which others seem to have done successfully. I'd seen some strange IP reservation behaviour and wanted to eliminate the second router.
I've flashed it with the unlocked firmware and left settings as the defaults, which looked like that would give me a bridge with no routing.
It works, but my download speeds have gone from c. 52 Mbps to c. 26 Mbps, which is obviously disappointing.
Have I missed something, or is this to be expected with the older hardware? Seems a lot when in theory the modem is capable of 80 Mbps.
ISP is EE, and I've been using their standard issue Smart Hub to date.
Thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the kitz forum. :)
. . . my download speeds have gone from c. 52 Mbps to c. 26 Mbps, which is obviously disappointing.
Have I missed something, or is this to be expected with the older hardware?
I doubt it. And no, that scale of drop is not expected. Clearly something else is occurring.
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Welcome to the kitz forum. :)
Thank you :)
I doubt it. And no, that scale of drop is not expected. Clearly something else is occurring.
It does seem strange. I can swap the two pieces of kit back and forth and consistently get ~52Mbps over the Smart Hub and ~26Mbps over the HG612.
If this is unexpected with the default settings then I don't really know where to start looking.
(It's probably obvious but forgot to mention this is over a fibre line.)
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Sounds like either a knackered HG612 or potentially a Vectoring specific issue.
The HG612 usually does well with Vectoring though.
Could you post the output of the --stats command from the HG612 (if you know how)?
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Could you post the output of the --stats command from the HG612 (if you know how)?
I'm sorry, that's past my skillset!
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Hi.
I have just installed this current firmware.
I am new to this modem and am using it with a 3rd part router. on talk talk fibre could anybody please guide me on the best settings to gain best connection please.
Many Thanks.
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Welcome to the kitz forum. :)
I have just installed this current firmware.
I am new to this modem and am using it with a 3rd part router. on talk talk fibre could anybody please guide me on the best settings to gain best connection please.
Once you have updated the firmware image there is nothing else that really needs to be done. It is very much a "plug and play" device by default. Your router's EWAN port should be connected to the LAN1 port of the HG612 with a standard Ethernet patch cable.
For a TalkTalk VDSL2 (FTTC) (ITU-T G.993.2) service, your router should be configured to use IPoE (or, possibly, DHCP) mode with an MTU of 1500.
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Welcome to the kitz forum. :)
Once you have updated the firmware image there is nothing else that really needs to be done. It is very much a "plug and play" device by default. Your router's EWAN port should be connected to the LAN1 port of the HG612 with a standard Ethernet patch cable.
For a TalkTalk VDSL2 (FTTC) (ITU-T G.993.2) service, your router should be configured to use IPoE (or, possibly, DHCP) mode with an MTU of 1500.
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Hi many thanks for the help.just to be certain the latest firmware is the bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui
Thanks again
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. . . just to be certain the latest firmware is the bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui
Yes, that is correct.
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thank you :)
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Hi All,
Apologies for just jumping on the bandwagon - am new to this and this is my first post. Can someone please help.
After reading the forum and posts on HG612, I too bought one but cant seem to get it flashed and the link for the firmware seems to be inaccessible. Can someone please help me with the latest firmware to use so that I can replace my Sky Q Hub with HG612 as I want to build pfSense machine to learn and improve my knowlege.
Thank you in advance!
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....the file I had found and used to try and flash the firmware - seems to make the HG612 go dead with no response to even simple ping on 192.168.0.1 after the attempt to flash.
file: bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui - size 3.38 MB (3,551,709 bytes)
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....the file I had found and used to try and flash the firmware - seems to make the HG612 go dead with no response to even simple ping on 192.168.0.1 after the attempt to flash.
file: bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui - size 3.38 MB (3,551,709 bytes)
I believe the default IP is 192.168.1.1 - https://kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612hacking.htm
:)
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Thank you tubaman for pointing out my silly mistake.....I have used 192.168.1.1 to try and flash the HG612 but after it goes through the process and even hours later once it is restarted there is no response to ping to 192.168.1.1 or any gui access via the browser. Hence, I thought maybe I have the wrong file for the firmware.
I would appreciate it if you or anyone else can let me have the correct firmware file and the disappearance of the GUI after the firmware being flashed is that something to be expected as I thought it would actually provide one.
Thanks
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Just wondered if the firmware posted on the first page is still the most up to date, or if there have been updates since.
Any guidance?
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Sp08 is the final version
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Being pedantic, SP08 doesn't actually define a firmware release, it is just the Service Pack version of the base level of firmware. It is the preceding set of digits that need to be considered and actually define the level. I.e V100R001C01B030SP08 is a later version than V100R001C01B028SP10 despite the SP number being lower.
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Does anyone have a live link to download the firmware? Everything I find online directs to that mega.nz website that is down. Thanks
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Welcome to the kitz forum. :)
Does anyone have a live link to download the firmware? Everything I find online directs to that mega.nz website that is down. Thanks
That site (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LdJFDIJL!e_E1twsIg2kTet8mPjrb4w) is up, for me.
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..........and for me
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Seems like chrome didn't like the link but mozilla did..
Thank you, hopefully I'll be able to continue now
Cheers
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Strange - I can access the site using Chrome.
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+1