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Announcements => News Articles => Topic started by: gt94sss2 on December 15, 2016, 03:59:45 PM
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I noticed last weekend (but don't think it has been mentioned here) that the BT Wholesale checker has now started showing availability of the 18/2MB FTTC product which was being trialed by Openreach.
I am guessing it only shows as available if your estimated ADSL speeds are less than <10MB since my parents line shows it as available (they are on 55/10MB) but their estimated ADSL 2+ speed range is estimated to be between 4-8 MB but its not offered on brothers line who in on ADSL but with an estimated ADSL 2+ speed range of 10 to 19.5 MB.
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I attach the BTWholesale estimate for a circuit connected via the same DP and PCP as that of The Cattery.
We can see that the 18/2 product is mentioned, along with FTTPoD.
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Thanks - looks like a few things have changed on the latest version
Just tried it on my parents address who have adsl1 estimate of Up to 6.5 -- 5.5 to 7.5
But its not showing as available for them.
If it makes any difference their VDSL estimate is 80 to 72.8
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It is showing here WBC FTTC 18x2 Provide Availability yes
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Openreach announced in October (https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefingsarticles/nga03216.do) that the trial was changing - including:
- Adding additional qualifying cabinets.
- Increasing the availability of the offer to apply to qualifying ADSL lines speed criteria <10Mbps. This is an uplift from our current <3Mbps speed criteria.
Interested to know how they chose what cabinets to extend the trial too - I'm in London so not exactly rural and am one of the furthest properties from my cabinet though we still sync at 60MB on FTTC.
Still I guess the ultimate aim is to reduce the number if ADSL customers so imagine that is a big factor...
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Not hard to see why it's available on my cabinet :)
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With such low ADSL estimates, and relatively high FTTC estimates, I would have thought the higher FTTC speeds would be more attractive to people. So less need to offer people lower speeds.
Here's mine.
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With such low ADSL estimates, and relatively high FTTC estimates, I would have thought the higher FTTC speeds would be more attractive to people. So less need to offer people lower speeds.
I guess this helps illustrate just how cost sensitive UK consumers are re: broadband and/or how they believe whatever speeds they currently get are sufficient for their current needs.
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Or it could be that they're working towards making 18/2 available on all FTTC cabinets.
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The checker updated for me... but no Yes.
I'm on an ECI cabinet. I guess this is where we get left behind on any other fttc products.
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I'm on an eci and the checker says it's available for me.
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Yep ECI cabinet and 18/2 available.
Perhaps instead of offering me Infinity 2 they might offer this.
At a better price than I am paying now. ???
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Please remind me, if a price has been suggested for the product.
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From the BTWholesale WBC price spreadsheet, 18/2 FTTC is £9.75 per month (ADSL2+ is £5.88 and 40/2 FTTC is £13 per month).
Openreach has a special offer price for 18/2 FTTC of £48/year for the eligible <10Mb ADSL lines on the selected cabinets.
(all ex. VAT)
How any of those prices will translate into prices the end user pays their ISP, who knows.
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It's good to know that ECI cabinets are getting this.
I'm just wondering why it's not come to my cabinet. So far I can think of 2 possible reasons. It might not be any of these but here goes.
The first possibility is that they have assessed that everyone on the cabinet is getting speeds above 18/2 on their FTTC connections.
The second possibility, and one I'm going to ask you guys is, in my area every phone icon on roadworks is 99% virgin media. It's obvious to me VM in this area is really pushing hard in their coverage. There isnt a day go past without a VM icon on the map. So I'm wondering if BT's approach to offering new products will be measured by the amount of rival networks in an area?
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The DSL Checker seems to have been updated again as my line is now also returning Yes under "WBC FTTC 18x2 Sim Availability".
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@Bowdon
What are your estimated ADSL speeds? I think it needs to be less than 10Mb ADSL to be eligible for 18/2 FTTC.
Virgin Media has been available in my neighbourhood and town in general for ages.
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@Bowdon
What are your estimated ADSL speeds? I think it needs to be less than 10Mb ADSL to be eligible for 18/2 FTTC.
Virgin Media has been available in my neighbourhood and town in general for ages.
It's up to 15Mb.
Well thats good to know.
I'll just have to hope when G.fast comes out it makes it here.
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Looking at mine - it shows
WBC FTTC 18x2 Provide Availability - not available
WBC FTTC 18x2 Sim Availability - available
Any ideas
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Any ideas
It's not available for me either. As I also mentioned here (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,19081.msg339281.html#msg339281) nor is it at my parents who would perhaps benefit from FTTC as their adsl is <8Mb.
I don't think its available at all cabs.
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Edited
(Removed LRVDSL pricing info to avoid confusion.)
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LR-VDSL is not the same thing as 18/2.
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pretty sure I read 18/2 is only available to EU's with under 3mb ADSL
edit: looks like it was 3mb, and is now 10mb
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I've noticed that on all the screenshots people posted FoD is also available.
I'm wondering if these products are only available on FTTP enabled exchanges?
I'm assuming FoD can only be done on a FTTP enabled exchange? I might be wrong on that assumption though?
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You are indeed. There is no such requirement.