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Title: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 20, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
The title says it all! Has anyone ideas as to what kind of driver is the likeliest culprit?
I have tried to reinstall from the existing zip on my computer.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 20, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
I find it hard to believe that driver upgrades could cause this without having some other more serious effect. Can you still access the web interface of the router from a browser?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 20, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
Text version of Router's page after login. Sp that seems OK.   

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Home
Technicolor Gateway
Broadband Connection
Toolbox
Home Network
Help
 
Home

Technicolor Gateway

Information

Product Name: TG582n

Software Release: 8.4.4.J

Broadband Connection

Internet: Connected

Toolbox

Game & Application Sharing

Firewall: Standard

Parental Control

Home Network
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 20, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
If you can log into the router's web page, then Routerstats should be able to as well if nothing else has changed. I can only think that perhaps something has changed in the Routerstats configuration. Your title didn't quite 'say it all' :)  Does Routerstats run but fail to show any data, or not run at all?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 20, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
Its radio buttons work and display the appropriate screens, but nothing happens after the green go icon is pressed. On first sight the settings are as they were before the drivers' installation.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 20, 2012, 06:33:18 PM
I'm struggling a bit to know what has caused this. I think what I would do next is delete RouterStats.ini (or rename it) then restart Routerstats and set it up from scratch again.

(Some people might refer to this as "grasping at straws".)
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 20, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
No luck with that either.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 20, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Has anyone else got any ideas?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 20, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
Perhaps rolling back and then updating the drivers and testing RS each time might be the desperate solution. Unless there's  a catch to that.:-\
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 20, 2012, 08:48:36 PM
I don't think it would do any harm.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: burakkucat on September 20, 2012, 09:48:32 PM
Not being a user of BGW (Billy Gates Ware  :-X  ) I am unsure what to suggest.

Have you tried moving the configuration file to somewhere safe, removing, then re-installing RouterStats?  ???
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 20, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
Im a bit confused to as to how this could have happened as routerstats is a standalone program rather than an install, so shouldnt really be affected by any update drivers.   

Id try redownloading from the RS site and try setting up again..  making sure that the old config file has been renamed or deleted.   Due to the fact you can connect but not record would make me think its something to do with the configuration.. or perhaps the prog isnt keeping the telnet connection alive..  I too am clutching at straws because its hard to see whats going on :(
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 21, 2012, 10:32:46 AM
Well all drivers rolled back, sys res back to before RS installed, any traces in registry removed, RS reinstalled from fresh download.....and..... still no luck. Tried RS Lite which won't work either. Cue hysterical :D :'( followed by :comp:

Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 21, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
:)

At least we can now say that the driver upgrades weren't responsible. I suppose you haven't upgraded the router firmware, or changed any of its settings, have you?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 21, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
As mentioned above, if RS can connect, but cant record then perhaps the telnet session isnt being kept alive?   Im clutching at straws.


~ To check the telnet session time length (in seconds):

    {Administrator}=>env get var=SESSIONTIMEOUT


 ~ To set to never timeout:

    {Administrator}=>env set var=SESSIONTIMEOUT value=0


Dont forget to save.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 21, 2012, 06:11:47 PM
Do I do that via telnet? If I do log in the DOS screen displays
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[Session 1 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.64:49542
Session 2 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.67:49412

Hit Return to list sessions & scan for a free one
Or type the number of the session you want to kill/code]
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 21, 2012, 06:35:55 PM
Yes via telnet.  Not sure what your output is from?

If using windows (Some versions need admin authorisation)
Run cmd -> Type  telnet

Type open 192.168.1.254
Now enter the username (Administrator) and password.

and a window that looks like a weird lego brick should come up (Sorry no idea what its supposed to be).
Then see screen cap below.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 21, 2012, 06:41:49 PM
PS just thought..  re when I said some versions of windows (ie Win 7)...  telnet is not enabled by default -  to do so see the instructions at the bottom of this page

http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/telnet_router.htm


(wondering if theres a possibility that the driver update has disabled some of Windows advanced features)/

Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 21, 2012, 08:46:13 PM
Still getting the message about sessions in use, and finally one saying "no more sessions, connection to host lost".

Telnet to client is set to enabled, and so is telnet to server. As mine is not a server could that be a cause of problems?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: roseway on September 21, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Are you logging off properly after a telnet session? This is pure speculation, but perhaps the router retains the telnet login if you don't log off, hence the multiple sessions.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 21, 2012, 10:22:42 PM
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no more sessions, connection to host lost

okay thanks...  which as eric points out, then something must be already using the maximum available sessions  - didnt know that the tecnicolor only allowed 2 - in fact Ive just been able to run 3 concurrent sessions on mine! Nor does mine appear to retain sessions, but Im running the Be* firmware.

At least the sessions are coming from your PC on the LAN and not externally. But something is using up the available sessions and therefore not allowing Routerstats or Telnet to connect.

There will be a command  somewhere to clear the open sessions, but Im wondering if it may just be easier to reboot the router. 

PS It may also be worthwhile rebooting your PC at the same time to make sure that there isnt something stuck on your PC trying to access it.



Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: rhohne on September 21, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
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Session 1 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.64:49542
Session 2 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.67:49412

Hit Return to list sessions & scan for a free one
Or type the number of the session you want to kill

Used to have a similar problem with the 585, which was limited to 2 telnet sessions. Needed to adapt my perl scripts to kill one of the sessions
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if (!$tn->open(Host => $modemHost, Port => $modemPort, errmode=> "return"))
{
return;
}
#if more than two telnet sessions then get
# Session 1 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.3:1839
# Session 2 in use by 'admin' on 192.168.1.3:3581
#
# Hit Return to list sessions & scan for a free one
# Or type the number of the session you want to kill
($prematch, $match)=$tn->waitfor(Match => '/username :/i',Match => '/kill/i');
if ($match eq "kill")
{
$tn->put("1");
($prematch, $match)=$tn->waitfor('/username :/i');
}

Did you try pressing 1 or 2 inorder to kill a session and then restarting RouterStats?

Unless you specifically need the telnet server then it should be removed. Only the telnet client should be necessary.

Has the router been rebooted since you started having problems?

Perhaps running wireshark could throw light on the problem, but it does sound like telnet sessions are opened and not closed.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 22, 2012, 10:28:06 AM
As per kitz's suggestion session timeout value is now 0.
Also have unselected telnet server, rebooted (restarted) router, and computer, un/reinstalled RS.

With the 582N the Get Page is odd (see attachment) but I never had troubles with the 582n's predecessor.
So still no luck.

Kitz mentioned possibility of the driver updates having interfered with windows advanced features. Which would they be in particular, and what should settings be? See mine attached
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 22, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
>>  Kitz mentioned possibility of the driver updates having interfered with windows advanced features.

I was just clutching at straws Im afraid, but after having checked your screen cap of the features you have switched on, they look fine.

I'll go check the settings on my 582n in a mo and post you some screen caps.
PS that message about user defined graphs is normal with the 582n..  but it doesnt stop the default graphs being produced.

---------
Edited to add screen cap.

This was the only page I had to change in the settings.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 22, 2012, 01:28:07 PM
Now wondering if overwriting current Dell drivers from original OEM CD might be best next step.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: HPsauce on September 22, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
It might be a silly question, but have you tried using Sysem Restore to rewind your system to verify it is the updates that caused it?

What updates were they anyway?
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 22, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
Sys Res was used right at start  of discovering problems. Network Adapters ( Dell and Reaktek), Display Adapter (GeForce).
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: rhohne on September 22, 2012, 05:36:29 PM
When the 582n option is selected RouterStats establishes a telnet session between the PC and router.

Only the following 4 commands are issued by RouterStats:
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env set var=SESSIONTIMEOUT value=0
xdsl debug bitloadinginfo
xdsl info expand=enabled
ip iplist

Since the reboot have you been able to establish a manual telnet session with the router ?

Have you tried extracting RouteStats to a different dircectory ?

Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: burakkucat on September 22, 2012, 08:55:35 PM
Looking closely at the first screen capture (getpage.pdf) I see it refers to a TG587n and not a TG582n.  :-\

Could that be the result of a misconfiguration, somewhere?  :-X
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: kitz on September 22, 2012, 10:31:16 PM
Looking closely at the first screen capture (getpage.pdf) I see it refers to a TG587n and not a TG582n.  :-\

Could that be the result of a misconfiguration, somewhere?  :-X

For some reason it says that even if its configured and running correctly for the TG582n
(see cap below)

PS that message about user defined graphs is normal with the 582n..  but it doesnt stop the default graphs being produced.
Title: Re: Updated some drivers,now Routerstats 6.8 borked.
Post by: renluop on September 24, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
@rhohne ATM it's installed at C:\, where recommended by RS. Apart from the partition on the disk for the recovery drive I have no other drive, unless you mean a portable drive.

@ everyone
I am encountering other problems, about which I shall open another  thread  (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,11708.0.html)just in case one of you has ever met something similar.
The problem may or not related to the problem here.

In the meantime the back-burner is lighted.