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Broadband Related => Telephony Wiring + Equipment => Topic started by: Thrill on April 09, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
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Hi there,
This seems the best place on the Internet to ask this. But our Internet I think, could be faster. It's estimated 9mb, I sync around 12 though. I'm wanting to boost this with a NTE5 Faceplate, I need to know the name of this socket and how old it is. That would be a great help.
I want to know which faceplate I can put on it, I want to get rid of an external filter. Hope you can help! Cheers.
Here's a link to the socket:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2l942sx.jpg
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Hi there,
This seems the best place on the Internet to ask this. But our Internet I think, could be faster. It's estimated 9mb, I sync around 12 though. I'm wanting to boost this with a NTE5 Faceplate, I need to know the name of this socket and how old it is. That would be a great help.
I want to know which faceplate I can put on it, I want to get rid of an external filter. Hope you can help! Cheers.
Here's a link to the socket:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2l942sx.jpg
That's a Master Socket 2/2A. You will not be able to get a faceplate to fit this. Question: Is this the only socket in the house, or rather is this the first socket connected to the outside cabling ??
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It's the only socket in the house. There used to be an extension upstairs, but I took that out. I've just removed all the redundant wires in the terminal. Only 2 and 5 are connected now (Internet & phone works so all is good)
What could I potentially do then? Cheers.
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You should call your SP and request a 'Network Engineering' visit, stipulating that you have an old-style 2/2A Master Socket and that you wish to install a 'Service Specific Front Plate'. These can only be fit to an NTE5 Master Socket.
The upgrade should be gratis, but as always, confirm with your SP. :)
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Call TalkTalk or BT directly? So a service specific front plate? What would they have to do? Install a whole new socket, then with a nte5 faceplate as my socket doesn't support NTE5 Faceplates?
I'll give them a call.
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Call TalkTalk or BT directly? So a service specific front plate? What would they have to do? Install a whole new socket, then with a nte5 faceplate as my socket doesn't support NTE5 Faceplates?
I'll give them a call.
Whilst I appreciate you making it sound like a mammoth task ( "Install a whole new socket" ), it really is a 5 minute task. You need the NTE5 fitted, then you can remove the lower faceplate and replace it with a SSFP. Again, this task you will do yourself and takes approx 1 minute to complete.
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So why do I have to have an engineer do it for me? Why don't I do it myself? :)
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So why do I have to have an engineer do it for me? Why don't I do it myself? :)
I can only comment in a professional manner and say that this particular part of the circuit is owned by Openreach, not you. That is why you pay rental, and are covered for any work up to and including this socket.
Others may comment differently.
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Others may comment differently. :-X
regards Jeff
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I see. So, do I do I not have to pay for Open Reach to replace this for me? I often see a huge call out fee of like £130. I'll give TalkTalk a call I think.
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I refer you back to my 2nd reply on this thread, Thrill. :)
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I'm wanting to boost this with a NTE5 Faceplate,
You will not get any boost by doing that. :no:
If that is your only socket and there are no extensions, replacing the socket will not change anything.
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Thank you for your help. I'll reply back when I've called TalkTalk.
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I'll reply back when I've called TalkTalk.
See my post. Waste of time. ;)
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I do kinda wanna get rid of the 'addon' filter though, I hate it sticking out. Surely updating this old old socket would be better, save me doing it in a couple of years though eh? Surely all this will be changing soon, it's overdue.
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It certainly wont be a waste of time having the socket upgraded. Your old one has a 'lighning protector' in it. This is a gas-discharge tube that doesn't particularly enjoy the higher broadband frequencies passing through it, especially when the gas starts to 'break down' with age.
Our boffins cottoned onto this ages ago, and now all the lightning protection is carried out in the Telephone Exchange.
It's hard to see on your photo, but its just to the right of the jack where the phone is plugged in, underneath the blue and green wires.
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It will certainly be tidier, and more flexible should you want to change things in future.
Just make sure you don't get billed for the changeover.
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So, is it possible to get a faceplate or a new socket? I want to do this myself, as I'm not prepared to pay over £100 for a call out charge as quite frankly, it's a rip off. Thanks guys.
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So, is it possible to get a faceplate or a new socket? I want to do this myself
The "genuine" BT-branded article can easily be found online.
However, it is BT's equipment you are modifying and that is almost certainly "not allowed" under your contract with your telephone provider.
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If you would like a quick boost to your connection speed, remove the wire on terminal number "3".
EDIT: It's not completely clear from your picture, but I think the wire is already removed.
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So, is it possible to get a faceplate or a new socket? I want to do this myself, as I'm not prepared to pay over £100 for a call out charge as quite frankly, it's a rip off. Thanks guys.
Two suggestions for you:
(1) Look in the Classified Advertisements of your local newspaper for a retired telephone engineer to do it for you.
(2) Track down a Openreach engineer and ask if he would be willing to perform a private job in return for some beer-money.
I did read, elsewhere, that when route (2) was tried, the engineer took a quick look, got a new NTE5/A out of the back of his van and said to the requester "Here you are. Do it yourself. But don't say that I gave you this."
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I believe that Openreach engineers can get in a lot of trouble for performing engineering works when they are not on a job. I personally wouldn't want to risk an engineer's job.
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I believe that Openreach engineers can get in a lot of trouble for performing engineering works when they are not on a job. I personally wouldn't want to risk an engineer's job.
Tis' a fair point. I believe (as I've never had the inkling too), we can take up a 2nd, or 3rd job so long as it is not in direct competition with our industry. Installing 'own purchased' sockets, cables etc could fall under that banner.
These are just my thoughts. Nothing official.
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Interesting comments.
I did read, elsewhere, that when route (2) was tried, the engineer took a quick look, got a new NTE5/A out of the back of his van and said to the requester "Here you are. Do it yourself. But don't say that I gave you this."
Perhaps that is the reason why the engineer provided a new NTE5/A and recommended the DIY route. :-\