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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: skyeci on December 24, 2021, 08:58:36 PM
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Any you fibre fttp users about? Netomnia are building 1gb symmetrical fttp in our town q1 of 2022 which I found out very recently. They tell me my estate will be done (using existing ducts)...
The isp will be you fibre. Any one using them at the moment? - hope I can use my opnsense router...
Can't wait to get off my eci cab. Early Christmas present...roll on 2022 ;D
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hope I can use my opnsense router...
Doesn't sound like an issue: https://www.youfibre.com/support/articles/i-already-have-a-router-can-i-use-the-same-one-when-i-join-youfibre
You'll probably have an easier time than I will on Zen as I suspect from their generic claim they must only be using DHCP rather than PPP which is what is going to hammer my box.
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Thanks.
Have to say Zen have been no trouble and can't moan really. No problems with ipv6 either. Been over 2 years buy they are more expensive than the likes of sky etc.
I would stay if it wasn't for fttp coming along next year
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I meant the raw power needed to push Gigabit over PPP vs plain Ethernet, not unique to Zen.
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OpenWRT will handle gigabit. Sounds like pfSense need to fix their software.
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OpenWRT will handle gigabit. Sounds like pfSense need to fix their software.
Oh it will handle it, but alongside several OpenVPN instances with QoS enabled, that may become an issue.
AFAIK all implementations of PPP and OpenWRT are inherently single-threaded which is the bottleneck.
The point is an ISP that doesn't use PPP can run on a much less powerful router than one that does as PPP is a real CPU hog.
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https://medium.com/avenum-technology-blog/benchmarking-pppoe-connections-with-openwrt-and-opnsense-f5fe6c30b70 among others are why I mentioned OpenWRT. Academic given you've the same box doing termination, firewall and VPN concentrator so configuration somewhat complex but thought I should explain.
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https://medium.com/avenum-technology-blog/benchmarking-pppoe-connections-with-openwrt-and-opnsense-f5fe6c30b70 among others are why I mentioned OpenWRT. Academic given you've the same box doing termination, firewall and VPN concentrator so configuration somewhat complex but thought I should explain.
That's really interesting, but as you pointed out I really wouldn't fancy trying to replicate this configuration on OpenWRT, even if I do prefer Linux. Honestly that Atom is 10 years old and was a weak CPU even at the time, I'm kinda shocked OpenWRT was able to perform so well.
I'm actually testing out moving a couple of my OpenVPN instances over to Wireguard. Unfortunately there seems no easy way to specify what WAN to use with Wireguard, or I'd probably switch them all over. From what I can gather Wireguard is much more fault tolerant down to less overhead and assuming the link is always up, so a little bit of packet loss wont bring the link down restarting the firewall like OpwnVPN does.
Oh one thing about OpenWRT vs pfSense/OPNsense, the power management seems awful in FreeBSD.
I have a newer appliance (i5-8250U) that I was considering as a replacement for the current one (just in case) but it clocks at 1.6Ghz vs boosting to 3.2Ghz on Linux, as FreeBSD seems to be ignoring that the TDP is unlocked and sticks to the default. PowerD behaves oddly even on the 7200U, I ended up disabling it and letting it lock to 2.4Ghz.
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Yes you can use whatever router you like, you get an eero on install but what you connect to the ONT after that is up to you :)
We use DHCP not PPP or anything fancy like that, any other questions give me a holla
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Yes you can use whatever router you like, you get an eero on install but what you connect to the ONT after that is up to you :)
Great. Thanks for the info. When is ipv6 coming along?
We use DHCP not PPP or anything fancy like that, any other questions give me a holla
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I meant the raw power needed to push Gigabit over PPP vs plain Ethernet, not unique to Zen.
Do any Openreach FTTP based ISPs use DHCP?
PPPoE I guess confers a small extra layer of security in exchange for its overhead.
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Do any Openreach FTTP based ISPs use DHCP?
Sky and Talktalk residential.
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Do any Openreach FTTP based ISPs use DHCP?
PPPoE I guess confers a small extra layer of security in exchange for its overhead.
According to this http://www.zcorum.com/wp-content/uploads/Why-Should-I-Move-from-PPPoA-or-PPPoE-to-DHCP.pdf the major benefit is just accounting and backwards compatibility.
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Great. Thanks for the info. When is ipv6 coming along?
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No firm date but shouldn't be long!
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I'm seriously considering YouFibre having been offered a great deal, but it still says v6 is still on its way. I'd rather have that than pay for a static IP. Any news? And why wouldn't a brand new service deploy IPv6?
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Depends how they implement IPv6, if its not a fixed prefix then its just as bad as a dynamic IP.
Its also not a replacement for a fixed IPv4 unless you can guarantee what you want a fixed IP for is only accessed via IPv6.
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Good points. I don't currently have anything that would require a fixed IP, but having had one from my Demon days and several years of v6 on AAISP it doesn't feel right moving to an ISP with the latest kit not offering v6.
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Hi Skyeci
Back on Topic! ;)
They will be available in my area once Netomnia have finished their install. So if all things work out I'll probably go for them. As the offer symmetrical broadband.
Regards.
David.
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No firm date but shouldn't be long!
I've now placed an order but the sales guy thought IPv6 has been delayed.
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I ended up continuing with Zen from fttc to fttp. Even though netomnia started work in January they wouldn't commit to any live dates. In the meantime openreach came along and did our estate . You fibre still isn't live in our area even after the promo letters they keep sending and they still won't commit to a live date.
Hopefully when my zen contract is out you fibre will be live as I would like a symmetrical connection.
I am running zen's fixed ipv6 on my opnsense box and it's working just great.
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They have v6 available to a bunch of customers. Wonder if perhaps there are some odd areas waiting for it so they haven't confirmed on the site that it's done.
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They have v6 available to a bunch of customers. Wonder if perhaps there are some odd areas waiting for it so they haven't confirmed on the site that it's done.
Correct, it's not rolled out everywhere yet
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Just following my post up from last December. Today netomnia contractors are pulling fibre through the openreach chambers on to our estate. Good to see this finally happening. I will be migrating eventually once my zen contract is up as I woukd like a symmetrical connection.
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Glad to hear that they are progressing.
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I ended up continuing with Zen from fttc to fttp. Even though netomnia started work in January they wouldn't commit to any live dates. In the meantime openreach came along and did our estate . You fibre still isn't live in our area even after the promo letters they keep sending and they still won't commit to a live date.
Hopefully when my zen contract is out you fibre will be live as I would like a symmetrical connection.
I am running zen's fixed ipv6 on my opnsense box and it's working just great.
Really would some kind of explanation from industry Insiders how Openreach can be so much quicker than altnets.
I suppose as you discovering FTTP is like buses, once one turns up, another and another will come.
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Ironically the street next to ours which didn't have fftp from openreach now has 4 vans working like the clappers.... I think they are looking to catch up with netomnia..
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Really would some kind of explanation from industry Insiders how Openreach can be so much quicker than altnets.
I suppose as you discovering FTTP is like buses, once one turns up, another and another will come.
I'm sure having such ready access to ducts and poles has to be a big part of it. In most cases there is already fibre literally to the street cabinet in a given area. It has to be a massive plus.
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Have a gander at that news article meritez posted - https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,27340.0.html - the title of it may have dissuaded folk from clicking on it, as it appears to be just about London ... but it isn't, it's nationwide.
Waaaay too many alt-nets in this industry now. OR will end up picking up the pieces.
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The next few years are going to be a fun ride, especially as I work for one…
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Waaaay too many alt-nets in this industry now. OR will end up picking up the pieces.
Its kinda crazy given its such a huge uphill battle as an alt-net unless you have really wide coverage to a point its worth regular ISPs interconnecting to you or no competition.
Mind you OFCOM can be a barrier too, I remember with Digital Region they weren't allowed to advertise on the cabinets and they foolishly expected ISPs to do all the advertising, so nobody knew it existed. Curiously when OR arrived they WERE allowed to advertise on their cabinets which gave them an unfair advantage, not that Digital Region were likely to recover at that point.
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Waaaay too many alt-nets in this industry now. OR will end up picking up the pieces.
Another Alt-Net is likely to pick up the pieces when it all goes tits up or there will be a fair bit of consolidation between multiple Alt-Nets.
OR already have national coverage. I can't see any benefit in them picking through the carcasses of dead networks.
There's very little OR would want.
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Mind you OFCOM can be a barrier too, I remember with Digital Region they weren't allowed to advertise on the cabinets and they foolishly expected ISPs to do all the advertising, so nobody knew it existed. Curiously when OR arrived they WERE allowed to advertise on their cabinets which gave them an unfair advantage, not that Digital Region were likely to recover at that point.
I've never seen OR advertise on any of their cabinets.
The only thing I have seen is some Digital Scotland (BDUK) funded cabinets with big stickers on them explaining fibre has arrived. Digital Scotland provided that advertising not OR.
I've never seen anything on a commercially funded cabinet but might be very different in other areas.
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I've never seen OR advertise on any of their cabinets.
The only thing I have seen is some Digital Scotland (BDUK) funded cabinets with big stickers on them explaining fibre has arrived. Digital Scotland provided that advertising not OR.
I've never seen anything on a commercially funded cabinet but might be very different in other areas.
All the cabinets I saw installed in Sheffield had the "fibre has arrived" stickers with a URL, BDUK or normal rollout.
Digital Region as I understand it were not allowed to do that.
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All the cabinets I saw installed in Sheffield had the "fibre has arrived" stickers with a URL, BDUK or normal rollout.
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Ditto here somewhat further down south.
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Well!
Youfibre now taking pre-orders for my area!
Wish me luck! ;) ;)
Dwight
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Lucky you - won't touch my street.
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Well!
Youfibre now taking pre-orders for my area!
Wish me luck! ;) ;)
Dwight
Our area has been pre order for a while. The rollout has been ongoing for over 12 months. It has been indicated its another 3-6 months yet before service even though its preorder for my address
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I now see you fibre has moved to 24 month contracts... I should have pre registered my order when it was 18 months just a week ago.24 is just too long for me.
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Three of those months are £1 though :) https://www.youfibre.com
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Three of those months are £1 though :) https://www.youfibre.com
That'd be great, now if only they would build in my street. >:(
It's really frustrating they've done most of my town, but don't touch DiG streets.
Mostly annoying - Given they were happy to overbuild VM and OR in other parts of the exact same town, and are well known in the industry for going into PIA green OR areas to make it nice and easy. Yes, I get it, good business sense, but really disappointing that the cherry picking excludes areas with absolutely NO ultrafast options.
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We're going to see a bunch of altnets that aren't keeping a tight rein on their costs going under over the next couple of years.
Netomnia are under no allusions: the moment they build to those areas with no ultrafast options Openreach will immediately take an interest and their civils guys will be rocking up digging microduct and tees.
Building mostly PIA with a few bits of DiG the DiG is really expensive per premises passed, way more than double the cost per premises for PIA. Zero chance of making the money back.
Definitely brutal but perhaps not insulting given where the altnets are in their development. Even Openreach leave the DiG until the end and that with their far more accommodating investors.
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The amount of digging city fibre have been doing over Bath is eye opening. I work all over the city and they are everywhere and its all dig. The cost must be huge..
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We're going to see a bunch of altnets that aren't keeping a tight rein on their costs going under over the next couple of years.
Netomnia are under no allusions: the moment they build to those areas with no ultrafast options Openreach will immediately take an interest and their civils guys will be rocking up digging microduct and tees.
Building mostly PIA with a few bits of DiG the DiG is really expensive per premises passed, way more than double the cost per premises for PIA. Zero chance of making the money back.
Definitely brutal but perhaps not insulting given where the altnets are in their development. Even Openreach leave the DiG until the end and that with their far more accommodating investors.
Yeah, insulting was totally the wrong word. Frustrating would have worked. Ogi manage to build everywhere in a town, but my town is nowhere near the top of the list. We can only build in so many areas at once... So FTTPoD in March is my next step...
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The amount of digging city fibre have been doing over Bath is eye opening. I work all over the city and they are everywhere and its all dig. The cost must be huge..
CityFibre are burning cash like it's post-apocalypse and the only use for it is that burning paper keeps you warm a few seconds.
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We're going to see a bunch of altnets that aren't keeping a tight rein on their costs going under over the next couple of years.
Netomnia are under no allusions: the moment they build to those areas with no ultrafast options Openreach will immediately take an interest and their civils guys will be rocking up digging microduct and tees.
Building mostly PIA with a few bits of DiG the DiG is really expensive per premises passed, way more than double the cost per premises for PIA. Zero chance of making the money back.
Definitely brutal but perhaps not insulting given where the altnets are in their development. Even Openreach leave the DiG until the end and that with their far more accommodating investors.
If I was an altnet I would be aiming to make a deal with Openreach along the lines of we will roll out take the risk, and then you can come in and use the fibre on some kind of pre agreed arrangement, sell what you want, purchase of us or whatever. Seems more sensible than just going in and hoping Openreach will ignore, as Openreach do seem to be a bit sly and jumping in at short notice when these altnets start.
Openreach are actually doing FTTP work in my area with no official plans which is a bit weird. It wouldnt surprise me if they turn it on within weeks of CF going live.
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I suppose one benefit of at least having the AltNet in the town in the first place is that OR now have to get on with FTTP because they're going to lose all FTTC customers that can indeed get service from somewhere else..
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My exchange area is still not on the lists but is crawling with Openreach works.
The work starting shortly after CityFibre reached agreement with the local authority and Netomnia started building are purely coincidental, naturally.
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The work starting shortly after CityFibre reached agreement with the local authority and Netomnia started building are purely coincidental, naturally.
Wow, what a coincidence! ::)
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Having seen no updates on TBB's map for NO for the past month, leads me to believe they've now finished whatever activity they were doing in Bridgend, can now see plenty of new spots over in Port Talbot, Neath and on the outskirts of Swansea though.
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Netomnia had announced my exchange in January 2022 but that quickly disappeared off their rollout plan within a couple months of it being listed.
I sent an email to Netomnia at the time it was announced to find out if they were likely to cover my area and they replied that they were still at the surveying stage.
I emailed again when my town disappeared and they confirmed they no longer had plans.
I had a chat with someone from Netomnia early today and apparently they never did drop plans for my town. The local exchange doesn't have sufficient space to accommodate them so they are deploying from 2 other local exchanges instead (all Head-Ends). An exchange to the East and 1 to the West, with me roughly in the middle of the 2.
We have Virgin RFOG and Openreach FTTP so not exactly the worst served house but it would be nice to have an Alt-Net rollout, particularly 1 with a symmetrical option available.
Fingers crossed they do indeed rollout here and come to my street
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Makes sense, John. They host OLT, switches and router in the exchange. Far more reliable power than a streetside cabinet.
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Netomnia had announced my exchange in January 2022 but that quickly disappeared off their rollout plan within a couple months of it being listed.
I sent an email to Netomnia at the time it was announced to find out if they were likely to cover my area and they replied that they were still at the surveying stage.
I emailed again when my town disappeared and they confirmed they no longer had plans.
I had a chat with someone from Netomnia early today and apparently they never did drop plans for my town. The local exchange doesn't have sufficient space to accommodate them so they are deploying from 2 other local exchanges instead (all Head-Ends). An exchange to the East and 1 to the West, with me roughly in the middle of the 2.
We have Virgin RFOG and Openreach FTTP so not exactly the worst served house but it would be nice to have an Alt-Net rollout, particularly 1 with a symmetrical option available.
Fingers crossed they do indeed rollout here and come to my street
You already have FTTP so there's a good chance they will. The problem for those awaiting Netomnia is that even if they are in your town, you need to be in green OR PIA, and have a duct to your house (or poles, not sure if they deploy on poles actually). If one or the other of those is not true then you are SOL until they come back and spend money on digging up the rest.
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Netomnia deploy on poles. They also stand their own poles and, depending on the cost per premises passed, will dig to bypass non-existent or unusable sections of Openreach duct.
After earlier complaints I believe they do not stand poles in areas that didn't have them before though, and they do not build duct and tees to individual properties.
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Any you fibre fttp users about? Netomnia are building 1gb symmetrical fttp in our town q1 of 2022 which I found out very recently. They tell me my estate will be done (using existing ducts)...
The isp will be you fibre. Any one using them at the moment? - hope I can use my opnsense router...
Can't wait to get off my eci cab. Early Christmas present...roll on 2022 ;D
Just thought I would follow up my post as here we are 13 months after the advised go live date my street is finally live and ready for order...Shame I'm tied in zen or/fttp for another year as would like a symmetrical connection. Good job netomnia in getting services live and offering an alternative to OR.
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Netomnia deploy on poles. They also stand their own poles and, depending on the cost per premises passed, will dig to bypass non-existent or unusable sections of Openreach duct.
After earlier complaints I believe they do not stand poles in areas that didn't have them before though, and they do not build duct and tees to individual properties.
Have noticed various pole roadworks notifications on bidb in my town funnily enough.
Nothing near me yet - there’s no poles at all but maybe that’s a potential?
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Have noticed various pole roadworks notifications on bidb in my town funnily enough.
Nothing near me yet - there’s no poles at all but maybe that’s a potential?
Or a bad omen, depending on if you are in an area with people convinced a pole is going to reduce their house price.
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Or a bad omen, depending on if you are in an area with people convinced a pole is going to reduce their house price.
I don't think so but there are zero poles up in the street - it may meet some resistance? Personally I don't care.
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Netomnia had announced my exchange in January 2022 but that quickly disappeared off their rollout plan within a couple months of it being listed.
I sent an email to Netomnia at the time it was announced to find out if they were likely to cover my area and they replied that they were still at the surveying stage.
I emailed again when my town disappeared and they confirmed they no longer had plans.
I had a chat with someone from Netomnia early today and apparently they never did drop plans for my town. The local exchange doesn't have sufficient space to accommodate them so they are deploying from 2 other local exchanges instead (all Head-Ends). An exchange to the East and 1 to the West, with me roughly in the middle of the 2.
We have Virgin RFOG and Openreach FTTP so not exactly the worst served house but it would be nice to have an Alt-Net rollout, particularly 1 with a symmetrical option available.
Fingers crossed they do indeed rollout here and come to my street
Wrexham was also quoted as Jan2023. However it now seems very quiet, there's a lot of detritus hanging on poles and some have been connected. But little sign in my part of town on completion. OR total bypassed my flats and I now have 4 lots of fiber strung between two pole either side of my flat. So it might be a better thing to just wait and see what turns up!
Dwight.
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Do youfibre use a csp on the outside or terminate at the ont only? Any pics appreciated.
Thanks
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https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,27267.msg457770.html#msg457770 should give you what you need.
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Thanks. That's just what I needed. Now our area is live there are good deals to be had.
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Thanks. That's just what I needed. Now our area is live there are good deals to be had.
Are you going to have to change your forum username? ;)
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You're very welcome. When you're connected they also have a referral program on the residential services so you can score some free months of service by signing up some neighbours.
Welcome in advance to Team YouFibre.
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Are you going to have to change your forum username? ;)
;D I guess I should by now...that goes back to the old eci days in 2016 when our
Eci cab that was stripped back and mostly replaced due to awful speeds at the time..
Any one know you fibre's ipv6 setting for opnsense/pfsense setups? Thanks
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Don't think you can change your username unfortunately!
Regarding V6, you're assigned a /56, just leave the rest default on DHCP and you'll be fine
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Don't think you can change your username unfortunately!
Regarding V6, you're assigned a /56, just leave the rest default on DHCP and you'll be fine
Do you use prefix delegation to assign that per customer?
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I didn't realise we had a few YouFibre people on the forum.
Netomnia are building in my town. They seem to include us with Oldham.
How are people finding the service?
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How are people finding the service?
Sore subject for me!
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Sore subject for me!
To be fair, that's more Openreach than Netomnia, but yeah still annoying!
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To be fair, that's more Openreach than Netomnia, but yeah still annoying!
Hmm not sure I'd agree with that. Other AltNets are building whole areas independent of OR.
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None of them are going to do a 100 metre dig to reach two premises either :no:
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None of them are going to do a 100 metre dig to reach two premises either :no:
Nope, indeed, but just want to make sure Netomnia are being poked appropriately for not servicing my street. I'm not bitter at all :P
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Hehe. I know them well. I cannot even begin to express their indifference. If it's outside of budget it isn't happening. The end. Part of the reason their deployment is accelerating while others are doing cracking impressions of cable companies in the 90s / 00s.
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You're very welcome. When you're connected they also have a referral program on the residential services so you can score some free months of service by signing up some neighbours.
Welcome in advance to Team YouFibre.
Got a few neighbours signed up who were looking for fttp. so will get some free month's....my service finally going live in just under 2 weeks :drink: ...no complaints from the neighbours...did me a cracking deal which I couldn't refuse with static ipv4 too.
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Install went ahead as planned, no drama's. Engineer kindly installed the CSP and ONT in my garage as requested alongside Zen/or ONT.
Speeds are good so far, ipv6 is not working at present but static v4 enabled without any fuss.
Great to have symmetrical service available and somewhat cheaper than Zen/OR
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/043a25e1-2369-4ed6-97d6-1179eb6b2390 (https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/043a25e1-2369-4ed6-97d6-1179eb6b2390)
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Sweet. If they were to offer 2 Gbit would you be interested?
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Don't see why not ;D.. I have a need.. a need for speed! :lol:
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That's some great speed, nicely done.
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Don't see why not ;D.. I have a need.. a need for speed! :lol:
Wouldn't we all! You'd need the capable equipment though of course...
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Wouldn't we all! You'd need the capable equipment though of course...
yes - ahem, upload issues... say no more ;)
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Wouldn't we all! You'd need the capable equipment though of course...
Going by a chat he and I are having I think he needs his drop resplicing too. Have suggested he ask the support team to look for BIP errors on his OLT port.
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Already ruled out :)
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Already ruled out :)
Top quality stuff.
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Just for clarity this issue is observed on the you fibre router via 1 pc hardwired for testing. I have also witnessed it on my own qotom too.
Example here from yesterday. ..
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/1685562430325114055 (57mb upload...)
I dropped a message to support waiting for feedback as no comms yet..
I am not using the youfibre circuit for now till its resolved so thankfully I still have my other fttp circuit available.
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Engineer due tomorrow so we will see what prevails. Test today gave same results...
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So things aren't going well. The ont was replaced but I wasn't at home so don't know what else if anything was done. Have been testing directly off the ont and caught an 84mb upload/speed test. There is something wrong which can only be external to my network/property I assume...
Just to clarify this result is directly off the ont today
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/49624ef0-3b21-498b-8635-a63d8b57ce24
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XGSPON upstream can be touchy in the face of bad splicing or microbends. Be good if they redo the splicing in your CSP and if still problematic track it back through the network to find whatever is causing the BIP errors you probably have incrementing.
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Far as I know it wasn't respliced. Just swapped out the ont. Getting hold of support has not been straightforward. Still waiting for them to make contact.
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Pleased to say my youfibre ipv6 is up and running after our exchange was enabled in the last few days. Opnsense seems to be happy and all my capable clients are passing ipv6 tests. Came a bit sooner than expected so that's a bonus .
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Pleased to say my youfibre ipv6 is up and running after our exchange was enabled in the last few days.
Nice. Did you have to do anything to get it working at your end? I've seen a couple of comments saying that if you have static IP then IPv6 is not available to you. Can anyone confirm if I need to remove the static IP before I am even aware IPv6 has been enabled locally?
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I'm on static ipv4 and my ipv6 IS static!...
No issues on opnsense.
/56 and tick for request prefix is all I needed. Been up for over a week with no change or drop with prefix.
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You can definitely get ipv6 if you have a static ipv4 (99% of the country), if you're using the provided router you don't need to do anything for it to work.
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OK YF have now confirmed in chat that IPv6 has been enabled. But none of the checkers I've tried are detecting it. I have IPv6 enabled on the app, but it only shows IPv4 addresses. I switched v6 off and on in the app, and (at the suggestion of the online help) rebooted the ONT. No change.
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OK YF have now confirmed in chat that IPv6 has been enabled. But none of the checkers I've tried are detecting it. I have IPv6 enabled on the app, but it only shows IPv4 addresses. I switched v6 off and on in the app, and (at the suggestion of the online help) rebooted the ONT. No change.
Is this on the eero app?
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Is this on the eero app?
Yes. I've also used several sites like WhatIsMyIP to check and they show 'undetected'.
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Spoke to support and they said lack of IPv6 was due to me using custom DNS, so set it back to default. No change.
Raised to Tier 2 tech support.
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Spoke to support and they said lack of IPv6 was due to me using custom DNS, so set it back to default. No change.
Raised to Tier 2 tech support.
Doesn't sound right, drop me a PM if you don't get anywhere with them!
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Yeah that's an odd thing to say given you could have IPv6 with no DNS.
DNS over IPv4 will still bring up AAAA IPv6 records too, they just wont be used if you aren't on an IPv6 network.
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Well this is odd. I've had nothing further from YF, so I thought I'd try my Fritz Box 7530 (which had been happily working with IPv6 from AAISP for years). It took a while, but I got it to connect and it clearly shows my IPv6 addresses. However, the various checkers I use still say v6 undetected.
As a further complication, I went back the eero, and now I can't get that to work. ONT shows normal LEDs, but the eero blinks white for ages before turning red. Both ONT and eero have had several reboots.
Currently working happily using the Fritz Box (which has always been my preferred option), but confused about the lack of IPv6 visibility.
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Spoof the fritz box mac address onto the eero if it allows it and that should work. Alternatively switch off the ont for 30mins as I'm told it should kill the session....
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As a further complication, I went back the eero, and now I can't get that to work. ONT shows normal LEDs, but the eero blinks white for ages before turning red. Both ONT and eero have had several reboots.
Update: I had to go to chat for support. In the end they made me use a tiny reset button on the bottom of the eero that I was unaware of, and my connection has been fine,
Still awaiting a tech response on why IPv6 isn't being detected. When I was using the Fritz I set up a TBB monitor using the v6 address the Fritz said I was and I got a satisfactory graph of pings until I switched back the eero, but I suppose that's because it would use a different v6 address?
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Oooh, so IPv6 with a static v4 should now be working?!
When I first activated a static v4, I lost v6 connectivity, so disabled it on my OPNsense router.
I'll have to give it another go. I'll dig out the YF-provided eero to make sure v6 is active, then configure my OPNsense box appropriately.
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Depends on the exchange if its been rolled out. I have tried a couple of builds of opnsense but it keeps losing the prefix at random intervals. Since upgrading to 2gb I installed pfsense just to see.. no issues with ipv6 at all. Picked it up first time and no loss for over a week of ipv6... I had no issues with ipv4 on opnsense but ipv6 was a right pain.
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Right… well, I had ipv6 working fine before requesting a static v4.
I’ve just re-enabled v6 and now at least my router appears to be talking to a dhcp6 server — so that’s new! It didn’t get any reply at all after I initially went static v4.
However, the v6 client gives up with:
advertise contains no address/prefix
Will have another tinker tomorrow!
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I saw this repeatedly on opnsense hence going back to pfsense which is currently working just fine for ipv6.
It would just randomly lose it when it did work.
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Right… well, I had ipv6 working fine before requesting a static v4.
I’ve just re-enabled v6 and now at least my router appears to be talking to a dhcp6 server — so that’s new! It didn’t get any reply at all after I initially went static v4.
However, the v6 client gives up with:
advertise contains no address/prefix
Will have another tinker tomorrow!
Could you do a release / renew on your WAN and let us know if that pulls a prefix?
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No joy after a release/renew unfortunately!
Does sound like OPNsense is misbehaving according to skyeci.
Here’s some longer log output, in case it’s any help.
I have dhcp6c set to only request a prefix with a 56 prefix delegation size.
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c advertise contains no address/prefix
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c server ID: 00:03:00:01:04:a7:41:ea:48:08, pref=-1
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c status code: no prefixes
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c get DHCP option status code, len 2
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c IA_PD: ID=0, T1=0, T2=0
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c get DHCP option IA_PD, len 18
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c DUID: 00:01:00:01:2a:64:af:a8:00:e0:67:2d:90:ca
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c get DHCP option client ID, len 14
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c DUID: 00:03:00:01:04:a7:41:ea:48:08
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c get DHCP option server ID, len 10
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c receive advertise from fe80::aa7:41ff:feff:480c%igb0 on igb0
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c reset a timer on igb0, state=SOLICIT, timeo=6, retrans=68165
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c send solicit to ff02::1:2%igb0
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c set IA_PD
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c set option request (len 4)
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c set elapsed time (len 2)
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c set client ID (len 14)
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c Sending Solicit
2023-11-10T10:41:19 Notice dhcp6c reset a timer on igb1, state=SOLICIT, timeo=6, retrans=63857
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Interesting, are you also selecting "only request prefix"? Or something to that effect
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I am indeed choosing “only request prefix”. Should that be off?
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Nope that should be on, along with send prefix hint.
Everything else should be default
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Gave it a reboot and I think I’m in business. Thanks for your help!
I’ll keep an eye on it, given others have had problems with v6 in OPNsense.
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Looking good!
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So, after a few days I did start getting weird things happening — slow page loading, images failing to load, that sort of thing. Turning off v6 solved the problem instantly.
Not sure if that’s a sign of OPNsense losing the prefix — everything looked fine on the dashboard.
But I’ve upgraded to the latest OPNsense and it’s been fine for a few days. If the problem repeats, I’ll turn off IPv6 until OPN sort out the issue — will raise a bug with them after collecting all the diagnostic info I can.
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Just for info, since the last post I've had no IPv6 issues at all. OPNsense has been up continuously (apart from updates) and there's been no IPv6 oddness.
My config, for reference:
- OPNsense 23.7.11-amd64
- WAN IPv6 Configuration Type: DHCPv6
- Request only an IPv6 Prefix: enabled
- Prefix delegation size: 56
- Send IPv6 prefix hint: disabled
- Use IPv4 connectivity: disabled