registration doesn't appear to work, just says required symbol char missing with no indication of where.That would be the password:
also the captcha is useless, it's unreadable.
make my line the freebie for guest users :) its a circus today.Mine is already and has been fun, on Fast Path for the first time in 6 months
I can confirm that it is indeed much quicker now :)Great!
Many thanks for this great facility.
I have registered and my data has started uploading.
It does seen to be a bit 'laggy' at first, although that may be my PC as I am getting lags sometimes on other pages.
(I need to investigate what this could be ???. My PC is i7 930 with 12G Ram so not exactly slow.)
Please keep up the good work, much appreciated. :clap: :clap: :clap:
I tried and abandoned a registration under shamus and managed to complete registration as shamus7I can't see any clue as to why that may have failed. What was the problem?
unable to view graphs--message---That message is from the utility that saves the graphs as images via a popup window. I've never seen that message but then I don't use IE unless I am feeling really like I need to annoy myself. The pages though are generally ok with IE10 and up and there are some tweaks made when using it. Why the username affects it I have no idea at the moment. (I believe MS are going to try and force everyone to use the latest version of IE in the future.....)
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I use IE10 is this the problem
probably me messing up the security systemOkay, have done.
you can just delete "shamus" account if you want
Can you be a bit more specific please as to where you think it's 'laggy' and what you do that causes this? Some of the stats take time to plot as there, for instance, with the Tone related data over 4000 possible points to retrieve and then plot and then return. SNRM and so on are or should be pretty instant.It does seen to be a bit 'laggy' at first, although that may be my PC as I am getting lags sometimes on other pages.
(I need to investigate what this could be ???. My PC is i7 930 with 12G Ram so not exactly slow.)
Sorry Slow reply:
The laggy performance is NOT at your end.
I am experiencing some stop-start lags when browsing in Firefox & Chrome.
I think the Anti-Virus / Anti-Malware etc proggies are fighting each other ??? and causing bursts of extreme computation which kills everything else !!!
I run multiple programs to provide coverage in depth and hopefully what one misses the other catches.
remember with malwarebytes to turn on the rootkit detection, by default its off.Oh, didn't know that, will do. Thanks....
I have not completed the process as I still have not received the email.....
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I see you are online okay now :)I have not completed the process as I still have not received the email.....
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Indeed! Many thanks 😊
I deleted tall the program and re-downloaded, updated and accepted all defaults and graphs appear ok
I abandonded sharing as I keep getting password wrong
thanks for help TB
will get round to sharing soon
My eyes are not very well trained when it comes to interpreting stats, but they look very good to me. You're on a 40/10 service but would clearly achieve the full 80/20 sync speeds, with a little to spare. You're also on fast path.
Only thing I have noticed is some very brief dips in your attainable figures, which seems to affect upstream more. I'm sure some one more knowledgeable will take a look.
its better if you at the cap of the product.
However if you not hitting the cap and your snrm is high it suggests you may be banded or you have highly variable snrm.
Hi
I have registered, but not yet received an email. I don't think its gone in any Junk, as I have checked. Perhaps your system is manual and takes time and not auto generated.
Looks magnificent work :P
Really Odd nothing received, and I use Message Labs and there is nothing in there also
Tony
Hi
I have registered, but not yet received an email. I don't think its gone in any Junk, as I have checked. Perhaps your system is manual and takes time and not auto generated.
Looks magnificent work :P
DSLstats is working with MyDSLWebStats now (you can see my stats on the site - user name: roseway). We just have to clear up a couple of protocol issues, then I'll be releasing it.
In principle I can also produce a RPi version, but it may not be immediate.
DSLstats is working with MyDSLWebStats now (you can see my stats on the site - user name: roseway). We just have to clear up a couple of protocol issues, then I'll be releasing it.
In principle I can also produce a RPi version, but it may not be immediate.
DSLstats is working with MyDSLWebStats now (you can see my stats on the site - user name: roseway). We just have to clear up a couple of protocol issues, then I'll be releasing it.
In principle I can also produce a RPi version, but it may not be immediate.
Hadn't thought of using an RPi as the host but that would be a very cheap way of getting 24/7 uploads obviously. Hope they keep a reasonably accurate clock time though!
Any Linux based system should be able to use NTP. I'll check this on my RPi the next time I fire it up.
Any Linux based system should be able to use NTP. I'll check this on my RPi the next time I fire it up.
Any Linux based system should be able to use NTP. I'll check this on my RPi the next time I fire it up.
I can confirm that a R-Pi, although lacking a RTC, will synchronise with appropriate time-servers via ntpd upon boot. (That statement assumes a typical Linux-kernel based OS is in use.)
I can't seem to get the all users graph to sort via order. Changing the order by and direction both seem to refresh the graph, but it stays the same, update also has the same results.
I've also noticed on the 24hr graph that there is some text left at the bottom of the pane "Please wait a few seconds while the graphs loads"
This in Chrome on my tablet.
I've also noticed on the 24hr graph that there is some text left at the bottom of the pane "Please wait a few seconds while the graphs loads"
This in Chrome on my tablet.
I can confirm it's now working, and all the text is visibl, nice improvements, thanks.
I may not have the fastest connection, but we do seem to get the most FEC errors on our works connection.
I take it that quite a few users have opted to keep their stats private, a quick count only shows 29 users?
can we have an option to make our own stats allow guest access?Basically, no. It's not possible the way it's set up at the moment, nor likely to be an option in the future.
is this due to policy rather than technical reasons? as your stats work for guest access.
got a few friends I want to show but they dont want to register just to view my stats.
First let me congratulate Tony again these stats are fantastic. :P
I think I may be now suffering from paranoia as I can see so much detail. I have noticed my SNR falls at night. This I know is normal, however I'm surprised by the size of the drops and times. last night just after 4PM and similar the previous nights large drops. At this time there is certainly no electrical activity in our home or I expect in any others between here and the cab.
I know other are able to see our stats, so appreciate any information for interest sake. ??? Fortunately even with SNR falling below 3db I'm staying in sync. Incidentally, I'm only 600m from the cab, but unfortunately part of that at the beginning is on AL cable not copper hence the poor speeds. I'm also on a busy cab.
I'm in IT so would like the benefit of more experienced knowledge in this area.
Thanks
Tony
Well if they can't be bothered to Register then that answers that....got a few friends I want to show but they dont want to register just to view my stats.
Those cookies seem to expire, if I try to go straight to the page after a while I am guest.I'll attempt to answer several queries at once here.
Cookies don't expire until 28 days or more after creation and will occasionally be extended.
:) kitzSorry I forgot some browsers need both the root domain AND the www sub-domain to be treated separately. I've updated the original suggestion in this thread to add both. Thanks.
as it so happens When I clicked continue my cookies were working, which is good but I had noticed I only set to allow mydslwebstats.co.uk cookies whilst www. was session only, so now both on full allow.
I think firefox by default treats both same not sure tho.I think you'll find it has to be a separate root domain to be 3rd party.
I am using cookie monster extension which has much finer control over cookies. I dont know if normally in firefox a sub domain of primary domain counts as third party or not.
yes and let us watch your line also please :)
even if its only partial data.
yes and let us watch your line also please :)
even if its only partial data.
Ha Ha i did say from the start the data collected will only be when the PC is ON and the data usage is not that bad as first thought, unless I get a laptop and also go unlimited this offline and online is not going to change :)
My appreciation and thanks to the developers of myDSLwebStats, I find it a valuable resource. At risk of immediately being thought of as Oliver Twist I wonder if you could think about adding something extra?
It would very useful to be able to see the average errors rates over time more clearly than with the bar charts, especially if like me your PC is not always running. (I hope I am not missing something).
As a suggestion, and to clarify what I might mean, one suggestion would plotting the average error rate/hour since the last resync (starting one hour after the last resync).
This could be plotted as a continuous line on each of the current bar error plots e.g. ES and CRC. I don't know exactly what is uploaded to myDSLWebstats but this average is easy to calculate if you have the results of "info --stats" using the "since link time" stats.
Please dont take this the wrong way, but when did you start displaying ISP information? For me it's not really applicable as I'm sure most people know which ISP I'm with.. but I do have some slight concerns that anyone can register to lurk and check out info on other people lines without them actively partaking in the project themselves.
Im not criticising your hard work.. I think what youve done is a brilliant idea... Im just not sure about the ISP and whether that is relevant for people of the lurker type to know. Thoughts by others?
I am curious as how he's worked out who our ISP'S are? I know this information is available when doing a speed test, so must be available somehow.
But I can't log in etc etc etc etc
@TimeBandit: please remember that MyDSLWebStats is a free service set up by someone at his own expense, and he even took time off paid work to set it up. Logging in may be slightly complicated, but it's not a big problem, and lots of us are using it every day without difficulty. Give the man a break. :)Thank you Eric. A rather more compact version of my post I hadn't spotted beforehand ::)
But I can't log in etc etc etc etc... Please bear in mind that this is currently a FREE access project for everyone out there (with an option to Donate to keep it going that is being pretty well ignored except by one kind soul) that four people have given up their time and energy, also for free, over the past three months to get it going after the initial idea came up. ...
my issue's with captcha's are is that they only serve to frustrate, bots get by them anyway and it can block human's who struggle to read them.
yes its not a major issue given the cookies last a long time now, but I find your point interesting you say it can help prevent the server been rooted somehow, given I also work in server security I have interest in that comment.
I remember not been able to register on palemoon's forum due to the captcha, the admin eventually gave in and manually registered me after he seen I had over 20 failed attempts. :)
Um that's interesting. Doesn't that maybe indicate a visit to the opticians might be needed if you've had such trouble elsewhere with reading captchas? Two or three tries maybe but 20
Since I moved from HG612_Modem_stats to dslstats to upload the data to mydslstats have noticed my DS FEC/Min count is mirrored on the US FEC/Min count don't think that sould be the case ???
Since I moved from HG612_Modem_stats to dslstats to upload the data to mydslstats have noticed my DS FEC/Min count is mirrored on the US FEC/Min count don't think that sould be the case ???
I'll check that out - it's probably my error.
[Later] Yes, it was an error on my part, now corrected.
TBH, CRC errors in MDWS are slightly redundant.
They are there as legacy data from when my original HG612 Modem Stats scripts/programs didn't report US data.
CRC & OHFErr (or SFErr for ADSL connections) are basically the same.
Take a look at the CRC & OHFErr graphs.
DS will be pretty identical in both & the OHFErr graph also reports US data.
People will be more familiar with the term 'CRC', so perhaps the OHFErr graph should be renamed 'CRC errors'.
Or maybe even CRC (OHFerr) to also confirm they are one & the same?
But I can't log in etc etc etc etc
As Ron says, the GUI has no idea how to log you in so that will just take you directly to the Registration page. There is no code in there other than links that would take you directly to any other page - unless you successfully Log On.
Can I please strongly suggest that you ask for help first on what the problem might be next time rather than hurl your toys out of the pram and scream and shout in public. If there is a problem for you that others apparently don't have, we can locate and fix it if possible.
In answer to your question, your uploads ceased with the last one being at 08:17 this morning - you might want to check the upload terminal details as the web site Log On data has no connection with the upload at all. One person recently changed their username inadvertantly but that causes loggable errors and there haven't been any from you. It was working for you so something apparently has to have changed and there have been no changes with the upload side code for some time now. Unless you have disabled it since posting of course.
As said before, if you have cookies that are not destroyed when you finish the session, close the browser or whatever, then you should NOT have to log on again for a long time if atall. And if you do you'll only need to enter your UserName and Password, again as I've said before - all providing you have permanent cookies. It sounds like you do not I'm afraid. But I could be wrong of course.
The captcha IS needed when first logging on in my opinion - it is an easier server entry point than the Registration.
I have also worked on programming including security for Government and other entities over the past 22 years and am very conscious of the need for it after servers have been compromised. It isn't primarily to protect the data as such, which as you say is not particularly sensitive. It's there to protect the server itself as you should well know if you have worked in security. When you have the ability to see tens of thousands of continuous root (and other account) automated login attempts caught and the IPs banned by cPHulk, it tends to bring the risk home.
The blanket statement it is useless in its current form is untrue, it's your own opinion of your own experience. Since yesterday morning nine people have logged on at the first attempt and two have failed through invalid passwords but succeeded on 2nd attempt. Other people have mailed to say they have no problems.
As explained before at some length, please check that you are retaining Cookies permanently for the site. IE11 is particularly agressive in this repect. I don't think I've logged in on any of the browsers and terminals I use (4 workstations and 2 laptops, each of which has up to 5 browsers available for testing this and other projects etc).
Please bear in mind that this is currently a FREE access project for everyone out there (with an option to Donate to keep it going that is being pretty well ignored except by one kind soul) that four people have given up their time and energy, also for free, over the past three months to get it going after the initial idea came up.
There were a lot of problems that had to be worked around, at one point we had to give up and start again with the uploads to find a much more secure method that otherwise threatened the entire project.
I fund the dedicated server myself out of my own pocket and like to protect it from the nutters out there as far as possible as you might possibly imagine.
There is also now a monitor on the Cookies and their expiry dates in an effort to see if anything unexpected might be happening and to see why yours might be failing if you want to try again. There should already be specific evidence of this in the logs but I can't find anything at the times you were trying.
So. if you want help PLEASE ASK FIRST. I don't see any major problems with the security requirements looking at the logs that would cause me to change the requirements at this moment, certainly the extra effort needed initially is not a valid reason. Changing your account details etc is underway but needs some more work that I could have continued attended to had I not spent hours working on this reply in between other chores/mails/phone.
Ron: re ISP details. As roseway says, a Host lookup on the the IP Address that is returned to the server by everyone (and I have a massive cache of Host lookups) will return enough info to determine it in 90% of cases, the others need a bit more work - such as our Swiss LIVE user. And OK on it as an option which I may well do. Most people on TBB state their ISP in their sigs anyway, not so much though on Kitz. I've removed them for now until I can attend to the user comments later.
Tonight I swapped from using HG612_modemstats to DSLstats to send records to mydslwebstats and I noticed a slight issue when recording attenuation which Ive raised with eric in the relevant thread.
However its also brought to my attention the fact that mydslwebstats is recording Line Attenuation but not Signal attenuation and I wondered if it may perhaps be better to monitor Signal attenuation rather than Line attenuation (or even both? ).
Line attenuation should rarely change as its only measured during the sync phase, but its possible that Signal attenuation can change at any time. When I had a line fault, my signal attenuation was all over the show - yet my line attenuation never changed. Difference between Signal Attenuation & Line Attenuation (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/linestats.htm#Signal_v_Line_Attenuation).
I'll announce here when the Password options are available, I need to check them one last time. So please don't post saying you can't find them ;)
G.DMT noted, I'll have a look - hadn't occurred to me I'm afraid.
Are/were you a teacher or police officer or other official in public life :graduate: :police: ? Brought to my attention sounds very official and reminds me of the day when ..... :-X :-[ :'(
Are/were you a teacher or police officer or other official in public life :graduate: :police: ? Brought to my attention sounds very official and reminds me of the day when ..... :-X :-[ :'(
No.. but Im well used to being in a tech environment where willy waving and bragging seems to be the norm. I was however brought up with manners and with the ethos that you treat others with respect. You'll find quite a few members here dont go for the one one-upmanship, sniping & smart ass replies that is so apparent on some other tech forums.. and for that reason alone avoid TBB - hence my earlier comment. We are actually pretty laid back.. but I can bite.
Sorry if my style of posting doesnt meet with your standards. But at least I can take on-board suggestions by others.... so I'll try to refrain from using anything 'brought to my attention' to you again.
QuoteG.DMT noted, I'll have a look - hadn't occurred to me I'm afraid.
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I was editing my post and I see that they crossed in flight there...
TLDR: Suggestion for which characters could be considered for inclusion
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The DLM doesnt count FEC's. They just prove that interleaving and error correction is working as it should.
A very busy connection with many users and lots of data flowing through (such as a workplace/business) will tend to show lots of FECs. The more data that goes through the connection, then the higher the FEC count will likely be - as long as its in proportion to the total traffic then its fine. Err Secs are the ones to watch for and from a quick glance, they seem fine :)
Interestingly, and this is listed on Kitz elsewhere some time back by roseway, Reason 3 for a resync is:
High Upstream FEC (actually TooManyUsFEC)
It's used in MDWS as the reason when/if that error occurs. Is there some later data that would negate that or offer a different reason? Or, maybe it only occurs on ADSL lines?
Interestingly, and this is listed on Kitz elsewhere some time back by roseway, Reason 3 for a resync is:
High Upstream FEC (actually TooManyUsFEC)
It's used in MDWS as the reason when/if that error occurs. Is there some later data that would negate that or offer a different reason? Or, maybe it only occurs on ADSL lines?
The posting you refer to is here:
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=12504.msg236038#msg236038
This of course is not related to DLM, it's just a list of recognised reasons for the connection to re-sync.
Multi User Monitor
Can I just say tbailey2 your MyWebStats site is excellent :)
It extends BE1 + Ronski's and Roseways programs for us the users to gain more knowledge and the only way for me is to compare others stats against my own.
What I'll do is develop a page or two over the next week on my experience of setting it up and installing it and the pitfalls I encountered in the process. Eric will also kindly contribute as there are things I still need to do.
Hopefully this will then help anyone who wants set up a 24/7 low power 5v machine for the purpose. I'll measure the current consumption when I can find my USB V/A meter!
That would be very helpfull indeed tbailey2 :) had a linux partion on the PC drive and used it for 6 months it's the RPi hardware & software setup that may confuse me and this moniter only has VGA and DVI outputs (DVI in-use) looks like i'll also need a HDMI to VGA adapter.
That would be very helpfull indeed tbailey2 :) had a linux partion on the PC drive and used it for 6 months it's the RPi hardware & software setup that may confuse me and this moniter only has VGA and DVI outputs (DVI in-use) looks like i'll also need a HDMI to VGA adapter.
HDMI is digital, VGA is analogue. Can't convert between them without a powered box of electronics which will be quite expensive.
Am I being a 'bit fick' here, but how have the people got their systems configured who are uploading stats? I have to have my monitoring laptop plugged into my 612 on Lan2 to access the stats/web interface, but then it doesn't have any internet connection (Lan1 is the uplink to my BT router).This may help I've unlocked my HG612. How do I get my linestats? (http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/hg612unlock.htm#hg612_linestats) - Follow the diagram :)
Are people changing the gateway on their 612 to run on their internet network? i.e. from 192.168.1.254 to say 192.168.2.254 (what my internal network is on)?
thx
:)
Just a quick one, I'm not sure if it's a glitch or something but when viewing my stats it looks to be a day out. It says I'm offline, but when I view a specific stat it's showing the current time at the top left, and a day behind on the graph?
That is a concern as the RPi does not have a Bios RTC battery you will need a time sync from an online time provider from the ethernet.
Just had a log at the Logs, seems there were 2 instances of HG stats running during that period, the PC was not in use and it cleared by 0400 on its own, any thoughts why that would happen appreciated ?
Tony
Hi, been using the site since it went live and it is great.
Well done to all involved for creating a great place to store, view and compare DSL service statistics.
I do however have one issue that has just come to light.
I enabled the option to show my ISP and saved it a couple of days ago.
It appears to be showing me (VDSL-User) as BTW (BT Wholesale) however I am on a static
IP address with PlusNet, switch from BTW on 7th October 2014.
Any idea why this has not updated ?
Tony
I've been trying to find why my stats stop at 0101 every day until 0301. It seems the failure is just after its uploaded to your server. I am not getting a curl return = 0 . After that tyhen the HG612 doesn't close. At 0301 I get a curl = 53 which then allows the proper closure of HG612 and then all returns to normal. Can you perhaps look and see if there is anything in your logs that might indicate why the upload hangs at this time and release later. I'm willing to believe that if I disable the upload, it wont stop the logging locally in the night.
Tony
All
On further thought, I suspect Curl is hanging because it can't login. I'm not sure why this has just started to happen, maybe a slight time difference or something that stops it exiting with an error as you would expect if the server were locked.
I'm not sure of the significance of the two hours exactly when it finally exits with the code that indicated the server was locked and not straight away. That may be an OS issue, that the change I have made today might prove. Comments are welcome
Tony
Update
Move to a W7 PC with a clean install and setup last night.
No logging again between 0101 and 0301, when Curl hung presumably at the time the Website backup started. To confirm my thought, this is what's causing the 2 instances starting and stopping local logging I am going to disable the upload tonight. If that allows my local logging to continue, I'm going to have to wait for some more support, unless Tony B can see anything more on his server.
Thanks all
Tony
Tony
I have given this a bit more thought today.
Firstly, I monitor the SNRM as I have a problem in the early hours with noise, with CRC in a pane below. Your great improvement showing the "gap" in this graph, made the lack of logging obvious, otherwise I might not have noticed. If "clystron" is not looking at SNRM it may not be obvious he has the same issue.
Secondly, I'm convinced this issue arose after the MS patches on Tuesday they involved a lot of security issues especially with SSL and certificates. I've already had some MS Exchange credential issues since, might it be that only 2 of us are using this weeks patches on windows boxes ?
Thirdly I have setup up two scheduled tasks now to avoid the "Lockout Period" 01:04 - 23:59 = 22:58:00 and 0001 - 0059 = 00:58:00. I'm happy to provide an xml file to import these if any one needs them. I trust you think my maths is correct here.
Finally, is the scale on the SNRM "x" axis different to all others as it appears so on my display ?
Hope this information is useful and I will confirm if the "Gap" between 00:59 and 01:04 stops the issue tomorrow (The gap between 00:59 and 00:01 was intentional to avoid task scheduler issues)
Tony
The errored seconds look different from bar chart to line chart it will take a bit of getting used to :)
is uploading even counted in your allowance?
I havent measured it but this wont be an issue, you uploading small text files. Not movies.
According to my calculations the uploaded amount will be less than 2 MB per day for a VDSL2 connection. It will vary a bit, depending on the user's system.
Tony
Had the same gap last night, I see my gap from 0058 to 0104 but then it stopped at 0105 until 0303 perhaps my time was not synced with your server ? I see Cryston had the same issue ?
Can you see anything at your end, did the server close a bit later perhaps ???
Tony
Tony
Thanks until BE1 can tell me why some of us get locked out, I will leave my collection gap a little longer. That way I don't lose 2 hours worth.
Thanks for clearing that up
Cheers
Tony
Your latest version may well be 4.0.0.6, but the latest available is 4.0.0.2
Welcome back BE1, hope you had a good one :)
Your latest version may well be 4.0.0.6, but the latest available is 4.0.0.2 :P
I agree that the hourly values are harder to see at the bottom
Help!
I have registered on the MyDSLWebStats but cant log on as I have forgotten my memorable phrase , on resetting via the "forgot password" facility I get "Password reset has failed - please go back and try again...."; through the email
QuoteI agree that the hourly values are harder to see at the bottom
I think it may require another option to switch the running total and average off. ;)
Ian
noticed around 16:24 with all users there was no uploading until 16:59 a gap of 35 minutes :-\
Thanks again Tony.
You really are a star. ;D ;D
One more option you may care to think about implementing; as I am on a dynamic IP address and am unable to switch to a static one, I use the ping monitoring graphs from http://f8lure.mouselike.org/ (http://f8lure.mouselike.org/) a static png is produced just like the TBB ones http://f8lure.mouselike.org/proxyfirebrick.asp?ID=53705 (http://f8lure.mouselike.org/proxyfirebrick.asp?ID=53705) or http://f8luresig.mouselike.org/sig.png?/53705.png (http://f8luresig.mouselike.org/sig.png?/53705.png)
Ian
Thanks for increasing period to show from the max of 10 days to 30 days thats very helpful :thumbs:
Thanks for increasing period to show from the max of 10 days to 30 days thats very helpful :thumbs:
(the graphs are actually calculated and plotted on your local machine if anyone wondered - which is why a Raspberry Pi takes forever if you try it),
Tony, is there a problem atm. I dont seem to be able to get any SNRm stats for more than 5 days.
Ive tried using both range and current, but neither work and I get the date Jan1 00:00 keep coming up - see attached.
I can confirm that there is an problem with SNRM.
I have a quick question -- I am away for Xmas but left things running via raspberry pi and dslstats. I notice that data upload to MDWS seems to have ceased exactly from the time that I logged into MDWS yesterday from another location. A ping monitor is still running so I assume the house has not burnt down!!.
Could logging in from another location cause any issue with the upload and logging?
I am not expecting a reply any time soon as I expect you will have other Xmas priorities.
Hopefully SNRM is fixed.
Loaded up the mobile version to check my stats this morning and noticed a formatting problem with the date (see screenie).
Ian
Error code 2 while uploading MyDSLWebStats data
I'm using DSLSTATS 5.3 with my username and validation code from the email received (in DSLSTATS it says Checked OK in green).
Tried setting it up tonight but I keep getting the following error...
Error code 2 while uploading MyDSLWebStats data
Not sure what I've missed, if anything.
CURLE_FAILED_INIT (2)
Very early initialization code failed. This is likely to be an internal error or problem, or a resource problem where something fundamental couldn't get done at init time.
All files are intact and straight from the v5.3 zip file.
Edit: I deleted the installation and created a new one and it's now working.
Hi Paul
Here are your Registration details:
Username: snadge
Memorable Phrase: hidden
You now need to visit:
http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/[removed]
to validate this registration.
The MyDSLWebStats Team
Donations are gratefully received via the web site - thank you!
its very difficult to register and setup
there is no validation key in my email and it kept saying the captcha was wrong?
You have also now posted your private mail validation link publicly - can you remove it please, as it will invalidate your registration if enough people select it ..
QuoteYou have also now posted your private mail validation link publicly - can you remove it please, as it will invalidate your registration if enough people select it ..
edited.
No, the configuration files are definitely where I said they were. The folder .dslstats (note the dot in the front) is a hidden folder, and you will only see it in a file manager if the enable the option View --> Show hidden files. If you look in the event log, the first (or maybe the second) line shows where the configuration files are.
Go to the home page www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/index.htm
Click the Log On (http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdws-lg.php) button, first line of text under welcome.
Once you've logged on there are cookies stored on your PC which remember your details and you can then go directly to www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm and shouldn't need to log in again.
thanks ronski - -tbailey2 who thought of this should be knighted! :) - great :)
Nice work, looks like you have been busy.
(some people have equipment clocks up to four minutes slow which does cause problems)
Windows 7 is terrible, I often need to update the time on one of my media PCs. I keep meaning to install net time (http://www.timesynctool.com) but haven't got around to it. I'll have to check my server and see how accurate that is.
Bear in mind the default resync time on Windows is 7 days or so!
Hi all one seems to of forgotten his security question. Whom do i go to, to sort this? If site admin for Mydslwebstats could PM me i can verify its my account.
If its better to just delete the account and then me to resign up thats not a problem.
When i click the link for password reset it just takes be to the homepage and not a password reset page.
My DSL Web Stats is now LIVE under my name adslmax. What happen if I switched off PC. Will My DSL Web Stats continue running itself in the background on Billion 8800NL router? As I don't want my PC on at all times.
My DSL Web Stats is now LIVE under my name adslmax. What happen if I switched off PC. Will My DSL Web Stats continue running itself in the background on Billion 8800NL router? As I don't want my PC on at all times.
Get a cheap Rasberry PI it's uses very little power @ 0.86 - 1.2 watts and install DSLstats this is what I have done to get 24/7 stats being logged to MDWS.
Is the site down
Ian
24/02/2015 16:39 72076 19999 6.2 15.1
Since realising my time was wrong on the RPi :-X , i'm now showing as yellow in the all user stats, and apparently as being a Non-uk user?
I'm now uploading in the correct time though, but the website is still showing I'm not?
user: jidavies
Since realising my time was wrong on the RPi :-X , i'm now showing as yellow in the all user stats, and apparently as being a Non-uk user?
I'm now uploading in the correct time though, but the website is still showing I'm not?
user: jidavies
Hi
Looks like it's auto corrected itself now and you show as uploading/online currently :) , the time offset is only checked periodically after it's first set....
Cheers
Thanks Tony!
I donated in December, I'll put in a bigger one next month, thanks for all the hard work, love the site knowing its there in the background, was invaluable when I had a BT OR engineer here a few weeks back!
Jamie
Nice to know that OR engineers also find MDWS useful,
Thanks for the kind offer, very quiet this month with only one donation so far.... A lot of new Registrations though.
Nice to know that OR engineers also find MDWS useful, nothing like evidence in black and white (well colour but you know what I mean ). Shame that there's no support for the HH5 et al to get some upload data into MDWS.... Even the basic SNRM/Speed would be something.
OutageThanks Tony.
Due to some unplanned DB maintenance there were no modem record uploads collected between ~08:00 and ~08:30 this morning.
You should also find that graph updates have been running much more quickly for the past 24 hours (except around 07:45 this morning...)
Hi Tony
I'm finding that the site is loading slowly today also, more so since around 5pm.
All the rest is great.
Tony
Tony
Thanks for the info. Loaded up fine just now, so as you say perhaps a IT blip that we never know why :-\
Best
Tony
Tony
Thanks for the info. Loaded up fine just now, so as you say perhaps a IT blip that we never know why :-\
Best
Tony
Okay but maybe not. I may have spotted a problem that is causing the delay as I found several of 10 secs or more in logs so I've removed the offending bits of code (just some logging that is failing to output anything - timeout?) and see what happens.
I am confused, tony you now hosting this at home?
Also I did wonder why google is needed for some parts of the site. your FTTC line looks a mess wow. It makes newt's swings seem insignificant in comparison.
Yes he's hosting at home.
Both mine were down from 07:55 to 13:43, both have come back up with no intervention from me.
Feel for TB2 seems to be having a lot of issues over the last 24hrs. Now the Database. Im sure we all appreciate the time its taking. No rush here
Tony
Did I mention my 30" monitor failed yesterday after 5 years of faithful service? The new one arrived a few hours ago :'(
I am confused, tony you now hosting this at home?
Also I did wonder why google is needed for some parts of the site. your FTTC line looks a mess wow. It makes newt's swings seem insignificant in comparison.
If you recollect very few people (except for some kind souls who kept the paid hosting going for a while) were willing to donate enough for 'proper' hosting
errrm......Tony.........Is the website running very slow after the restore.
A 10 day error second plot is taking >12 seconds.
No big problem ;)
Ian
It does not matter much but I think it may be more helpful to allow the current day to appear in less than 5 day periods. I like to look at the current day in relation to the last few days.
Thanks Tony, as you say much faster now. I had to come back and re-read your post as I was about to mention the lack of current day in my preferred 10 day plot.
Many thanks for the quick work.+1
Back again Tony...something strange with the multi-day error second graphs...March 1 st seems to be missing (are you anti Welsh) ;) ;)
Ian
well at least your DS SNRm is getting better your not getting below 1dB though 4.5dB says to me that your line has had more crosstalk an you may need to let go of some sync to balance your SNRm it's up to you :(
If you do decide then 20:00 is the best time to resync and also remember to take 30mins modem off into consideration so modem off at 19:30 and modem on at 20:00.
It's all working fine here. Well done.
Another G.INP line :thumbs:
Just to say that there is now another G.INP enabled line (garypower1). Each new addition and the admins get an automatic mail once this is detected.
I it's strange it only happening to recently signed up members to MDWS what i would like to see is a regular member like Baldeagle1 moved to G.INP and compare the difference as he has the before and after stuff we need.
For example to see changes in errored seconds and crc's fec's the list go's on.
Tony
There is probably a bug in the FEC graph. The upstream data is not displayed. It seems to affect all users.
Hi,
I tried to logon but I got a message advising of incorrect memorable phrase, I did attempt to rest my password but whils ti got an email with a link when I clicked on this the web page advised 'Password reset has failed - please go back and try again...."; '
Any ideas on how I can reset the password and or memorable phrase.
Cheers
Indeed, field 47 is the one to use for us_RSCorr_delta values
Thanks to both - we now have the plots!
Hi,
I tried to reset my password which was successful and I did get a new password however it seems I have an issue with the Memorable Phrase, is there any way to reset this?
I've had a look and can't see any real problem here - there are users on DSLstats with Upload FEC's visible (try 24Hr roseway) and assuming that is your problem as you didn't say.
Thanks to both - we now have the plots!
Thank you.
Unfortunately there is no plot for users uploading with DSLStats.
Tony
Is the last hour worth of error seconds/day recorded?
(I would expect the line to be vertical on the total plot)
Ian
So the one after that at the bottom is 00:00-00:59.
The clock on the PC say 13:14 the atomic clock says 13:14 so it's find here.
Clock on my server is correct. Have restarted dslstats to see if that makes a difference.
Lloyd (pianist)
pi@dslstats ~ $ date
Sun Mar 29 15:16:58 BST 2015
Restarted DSL Stats on the Pi, seems to have sorted it Tony?Quotepi@dslstats ~ $ date
Sun Mar 29 15:16:58 BST 2015
Seems DSL Stats needs to be closed and opened again on the Pi for the update to take affect TonyRestarted DSL Stats on the Pi, seems to have sorted it Tony?Quotepi@dslstats ~ $ date
Sun Mar 29 15:16:58 BST 2015
Yes, thanks :D
Sorry about that, my PI was running on UTC. :-[ Have now set the correct locale:
Current default time zone: 'Europe/London'
Local time is now: Sun Mar 29 15:04:16 BST 2015.
Universal Time is now: Sun Mar 29 14:04:16 UTC 2015.
BTW I'm seeing this message on the MDWS monitor page:
User vic0239 - your e-email server refuses our mails - please whitelist us!
Yet I have received emails in the past, the last being on 24th March? ???
BTW I'm seeing this message on the MDWS monitor page:
User vic0239 - your e-email server refuses our mails - please whitelist us!
SMTP error from remote server in greeting:
host: mx.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk:
rgin02.bt.ext.cpcloud.co.uk Service not available - access denied
I have just restarted my virtual server and DslStats.
Running it on a Lubuntu instance and double checked my date time timezone is correct.
I hope this has sorted it out.
TonyNothing to worry about - you appear to have had only two today rather than 1000s as in one instance. They are automatic and won't get sent unless there are three consecutive ones , then you see the third and every minute thereafter as they occur. Reset back as soon as there is not one for a minute. Most people have one every so often for all sorts of reasons, usually a stuck process that ends in the next minute. Unusual with DSLstats though.
Responding to your email of multiple upload log files, Rpi version of Dslstats is the only program running.
Nothing else has changed since restarting Pi and Dslstats on 29th March. Program stopped, will restart
after ashort break.
Fuggi
DSLAM/MSAN type: BDCM:0xa44f / v0xa44f
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode: VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 1 day 2 hours 14 min 53 sec
Resyncs: 0 (since 01 Apr 2015 19:56:55)
Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 5.4 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 79987 19999
SNR margin (dB): 18.3 23.2
Power (dBm): 13.5 13.4
Interleave depth: 1 1
INP: 0 0
G.INP: Not enabled
RSCorr/RS (%): N/A 0.0021
RSUnCorr/RS (%): N/A 0.0000
ES/hour: 0.83 0.83
xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 36866 Kbps, Downstream rate = 122892 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79987 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate: 36866 kbps 122892 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: - 13.4 dBm 13.5 dBm
====================================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 U4 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 1.4 4.5 5.8 N/A N/A 2.6 5.7 9.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): N/A 4.1 5.0 N/A N/A 3.1 5.7 9.2
SNR Margin(dB): N/A 23.2 23.2 N/A N/A 18.3 18.3 18.3
TX Power(dBm): -128.0 -39.2 -13.5 N/A N/A 10.4 7.8 7.1
#
Just noticed that MDWS reports a +power figure for my upstream but it appears to be a -power figure?
Just noticed that MDWS reports a +power figure for my upstream but it appears to be a -power figure?
MDWS just reports what it's sent. You need to talk to roseway (or the modem makers)....
Server will be down shortly, not sure yet for how long....Okay back up - down from 07:55 - 07:59. Running on ZyXel VMG8324-V10A now at last :)
DSLstats just reports what the modem reports. MDWS reports the total upstream and downstream powers, and these values are positive. The upstream per-band values appear to be negative dBm values, but I find it hard to believe them because they represent microscopic power levels.
OK, I'll take another look at that.
[Later]
Yes, I'm sorry, I agree. I haven't seen negative aggregate values before, and DSLstats has been reading these as positive. This will be corrected in the next release.
MDWS BST Clock settings (from earlier post this morning)
As best I can tell, these users still need to reload their copy of DSLstats to get the correct upload time:
bigg
JustAnothe
les-70
oliver602
thepfy
toulouse
TIA
MDWS BST Clock settings (from earlier post this morning)
As best I can tell, these users still need to reload their copy of DSLstats to get the correct upload time:
Edit:
This is now automated and an affected user will see a message under each graph telling them that the clock is out and still on GMT. As soon as it is corrected, the message will go away on the next graph refresh,
TIA
Hi I have checked my raspbery pi and it is on BST with the correct time, rebooted and the website is still saying my time is not on BST, can somebody take a look ?
Should the ES/CRC/FEC and so on in the header be populated? Mine always seem to be 0.0 even though on the specific graphs ES have been reported? ThanksYes, they are reported but they are instantaneous readings once per minute so if you only have a few the chances are you won't see any data...
When I logon to MyDSLWebStats I see "User shadow4dog - your upload data is invalid!"It appears to be fixed now :) For a couple of days (3rd - 5thApril) your were uploading files with no data in. Usually upgrading HG612 Modem Stats or restarting it will fix the problem which is known.
What does this mean and how do I correct it? I'm running HG612 Modem Stats.
Thanks
I have just registered with MyDSLWebStats but I can only get so far. It baulks on the "Check now" with "Unable to check at present". Is this my finger trouble or is the site not working at the mo'?
Tony
No doubt there us a huge list of requests but it would be great if your user was selected automatically after logging on? Thanks
I've stopped recording but it still says "unable....." when I "Check now". Any more suggestions please?
Tony
No doubt there us a huge list of requests but it would be great if your user was selected automatically after logging on? Thanks
I've stopped recording but it still says "unable....." when I "Check now". Any more suggestions please?
Tony
I have upgraded DSLStats to 5.4 (I was using 5.3) and checked on the MYDSLWebstats site that I am logged in. I can see my name in the list of registered names but I'm still not uploading. I have checked the gateway I am on and checked that I've moved after a hop but still no joy. I'm almost certain this is my finger trouble which is very frustrating. Is there anything else anyone can suggest please? DSLStats is still doing its thing fine and I have stopped and restarted it to no avail.
Tony
It should be selected when you first log on, seems to work here okay - if not select yourself or another user and that user will stay with you from then on for that pane until changed...
I have tried stopping the recording and after your suggestion I exited the program and restarted it. Still no joy. I am using a tg582 router (still on ADSL2+) and I wonder if someone else here has the same conditions as me. That is Plusnet customer, ADSL2+ and a tg 582. Be good to have a comparison.
Tony
Yes, DSLstats does work with limited functionality with the Thomson/Technicolor models, but much of the data needed by MDWS is missing.
Sorry to bug you Tbailey2, but I'm just waiting for my validation key to arrive. Is there anything I need to do?
Aha, the original validation key email finally turned up after a 13 hour delay by Yahoo, presumably due to the lack of SPF record :)
I received the one you resent to me after I posted above, and used that to upload from DSW32. The original automated one got delayed by 13 hours and arrived here at 4:00 am.
An SPF record is just a a TXT entry in your DNS and is supposed to cut down on Spam by allowing a site to say where it's own mail comes from. But a lot of people including me just have a default transitional entry:
The TXT records found for your domain are:
v=spf1 a mx ~all
I used this to query SPF records: http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html (http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html)
SPF record lookup and validation for: mydslwebstats.co.uk
SPF records are published in DNS as TXT records.
The TXT records found for your domain are:
Checking to see if there is a valid SPF record.
No valid SPF record found of either type TXT or type SPF.
Yahoo are pretty notorious for deferring mail as an antispam measure. It will come through eventually.
Still got this problem on multiple devices......is everybody elses still showing OK?
Ian
by the way load my snrm graph for 30days, you see from around 5 april my upstream snrm now dips every afternoon.
Hi tony has your line been hit by crosstalk as your DS SNRM as been dropping off over 20 days it's now down to 3.8dB :-\
Hi
I have a message on mydslwebstats saying that my emails are being bounced - please whitelist us.
Any ideas how to remove this message as mydslwebstats is whitelisted and I am receiving emails.
Thanks
Kevin
Any issues with the site at the moment? Just getting a blank page.
I just got two emails from MyDSLWebStats to-day at 21:15 saying my G.INP has been disabled on my line an then another email saying G.INP has been enabled are you having issues tony ?
g) And lots of other little updates I've forgotten by now....
Great work Tony, would it be worth putting your Plusnet referral link on the site, that way if anybody does sign up to Plusnet by it at least you will get the on going commission.
One of the G.INP graphs has been renamed to G-LEFTRS at the request of BE1 who says:
I THINK that 'L' means near side, 'EFTR' means Error Free Throughput Rate, 'S' means Seconds & the data is only non-zero whenever there has been some sort of near side 'interference'?
One of the G.INP graphs has been renamed to G-LEFTRS at the request of BE1 who says:
I THINK that 'L' means near side, 'EFTR' means Error Free Throughput Rate, 'S' means Seconds & the data is only non-zero whenever there has been some sort of near side 'interference'?
That's good - can we have meanings for the other 16 now please ???
Just noticed; the graph title could do with changing too.
TonySeems okay now. The process that controls the daily update didn't fire off when it should at 00:30 but runs again at 09:30 just in case. It checks for missing days...
Has something changed; multi day seems to be not working
Can't see any thing adrift from this end, delivery out to you in around 200ms and ping into server looks normal for the time of day. Base is 18ms.
Tony....Should the mini stats link point to http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm (http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm) ??
Ian
At times, this week included I get hit by odd SES and it would be nice if they could be logged on MyDSLwebStats
I presume you can see it is currently pointing to http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm#][url]http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm# (http://[url)[/url]Tony....Should the mini stats link point to http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm (http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm) ??
Ian
Yes :hmm:
I presume you can see it is currently pointing to http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm#]http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm#]http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm# (http://[url=http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/Container.htm#)Tony....Should the mini stats link point to http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm (http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/mdwssuu.htm) ??
Ian
Yes :hmm:
Are there any corresponding entries in the DSLstats event log?Eric
Not now, but it looks as though it was down for some hours this afternoon.
hover over the link and the URL that comes up at the bottom of the browser window?
Off since 07:00 to try and sort out the problem with the Zyxel but couldn't. So now back on HG612/TG582N (both new out the sealed boxes) plus various server software updates and some rewiring etc.
Someone thinks their ECI modem is working with DSLStats and MDWS :no:
https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/VDSL-stats-and-interleaving-depth-Possible-fast-path/m-p/1494233#M180829 (https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/VDSL-stats-and-interleaving-depth-Possible-fast-path/m-p/1494233#M180829)
Miracles we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer.
Just realised these stats may not be true. I didn't have to upload anything on that website though, just opened it and the stats appeared. After resync, it still shows 705 depth of interleaving and 8 delay.
Miracles we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer.Have you not done it yet Tony - you're slacking man :whip:
He's still monitoring your stats :-X
https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/Interleaved-or-fastpath/m-p/1495796/highlight/true#M181206 (https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/Interleaved-or-fastpath/m-p/1495796/highlight/true#M181206)
I think a resync may help ;)
I guess Newt will advise a resync to get the extra d/l but won't be good news if it's temporary and then goes away.....
Ideas??
As I said at the start, the biggest single drop from the five disturbers I've seen in the past year is 1.5dB so I doubt they all unplugged at once, have to wait and see. It was my initial guess as well though and I did say it would be bad news if it came back to where it was and I had rebooted....
The process of recognising users who subsequently donate via PayPal is automated providing you either donate from the same e-mail you are Registered with or your registered name is uniquely identifiable or you add (in the PayPal comments/message facility) your user name in the form.
Is it possible to donate using alternative methods e.g. BTC?
Can you update your MDWS username and email address somehow?
Having been messing with Firefox for a while now I am logged out of this, however in order to login I need to remember my memorable phrase. Well as you can imagine it is not memorable enough and therefore I cannot login. Why do we need this extra level? Why is a password not good enough together with the question to try to eliminate auto logins?
So how do I recover my memorable phrase?
Stuart
Trouble with the recording of error seconds on my adsl connection again.
Update: 18:30 now fixed ;D
Good Morning,Hi and many thanks for the generous donation ;D
I'm using a poor mans bonded FTTC setup (L2 VPNs over each FTTC line, bonded, to a box in the DC) - sadly it looks like the IPs from the dedicated hosting provider are blocked on your site.
The IP(s) I use are dedicated, is it possible to get an allow set up? Happy to make a £30 donation for your time/service, but right now I can only access the site if I enable another VPN or drop the FTTC bond.
Thanks,
Ed
UPDATE: Oh, trying again this morning it seems your ACLs may have been refreshed since I tried last week - I seem to be able to access the site now? Donation on its way as promised.
EDIT: Just found a post that mentions about not supporting VDSL2 on this modem at the moment
Ah, so your Avatar is Mike Hawthorn, not you :)
QuoteEDIT: Just found a post that mentions about not supporting VDSL2 on this modem at the moment
The DSLstats pre-release version v5.5.4 adds VDSL2 support to the TG589vnV3, and also adds MDWS upload capability for Thomson/Technicolor modems. As with all Thomson/Technicolor modems, the support is limited by what data is available through its custom CLI.
The DSLstats pre-release version v5.5.4 adds VDSL2 support to the TG589vnV3, and also adds MDWS upload capability for Thomson/Technicolor modems. As with all Thomson/Technicolor modems, the support is limited by what data is available through its custom CLI.
Is everyone's pop ups working on resynch data?
Mine seems to have stopped (Chrome on ChromeOS and Chrome on Windows)
just checked wow still no g.inp for newt.
I don't know if it's just my ageing eyes, or if I am misunderstanding the purpose of the traffic light icons, but they all appear to be the same colour to me...
what threshold is used for amber on stable?
I think ideally thethreshold'sthresholds used should display in the tooltip or on a help page.
Amber = no action AFAIAA
I would assume then amber for stable is 360 and green is 180?
curious why I have amber with under 180 ES.
Hi Just joined Kitz. I am trying to upload my stats but keep getting this error any ideas "Unable to upload MyDSLWebStats data (file "upload14.exe" missing)"
Thanks for the reply . Yeah it is logging now does everything look ok
US plot if it exists is black and attached is roseway's wonderful example
Port your phone number to VOIP
I'm currently running DSLstats V5.5. I must of missed where you get the app. Can you point me in the direction of it please. Is it mobile app only?
Does anyone who has donated know if just your email is exposed or if your full postal address is also included? Thanks
Tony
It's me again.....on 24 hour graphs when I click on the titles of the graphs to see a larger graph (on dates earlier this month 23 July) i am getting graphs with no data displayed.
Also problem selecting a range (select range 21 - 22 July)
Tony, selecting a date in the dropdown doesn't seem to move the graph to that point?
The 24Hr graph PopUps are now working okay
Also problem selecting a range (select range 21 - 22 July)
Tony, selecting a date in the dropdown doesn't seem to move the graph to that point?
I can't immediately see any problem from here... Tried several browsers on diff terminals and correctly selected date comes up and popups are also for the correct date.
When you change the date can you see the activity cursor rotating on a tab? If not you could have a JavaScript implementation problem that is stopping the change being detected. The only other problem I can remember is that Safari on a Mac (used to have one but gave up on it) doesn't work (along with a lot of other things in Safari).
Edit:
It appears you are using a Mac and Safari. I've modded this so that if it detects a Mac, it will add in a manual refresh button just after the dropdown list plus some hover notes... Let me know if it works for you please.
Tony, selecting a date in the dropdown doesn't seem to move the graph to that point?
I can't immediately see any problem from here... Tried several browsers on diff terminals and correctly selected date comes up and popups are also for the correct date.
When you change the date can you see the activity cursor rotating on a tab? If not you could have a JavaScript implementation problem that is stopping the change being detected. The only other problem I can remember is that Safari on a Mac (used to have one but gave up on it) doesn't work (along with a lot of other things in Safari).
Edit:
It appears you are using a Mac and Safari. I've modded this so that if it detects a Mac, it will add in a manual refresh button just after the dropdown list plus some hover notes... Let me know if it works for you please.
Maybe I'm doing this wrong.
I've got "Current" selected in Date Options. Selecting a date from "Resync Data..." and then clicking "Refresh" doesn't do anything to the graph?
Why does it have an "Update" button under it then? It's a bit confusing :)
Also problem selecting a range (select range 21 - 22 July)
That's now fixed as well :)
Tony - am I being really stupid because I cant find the options link?
if it really worries you
Followed hyperlinks could maybe do with a different colour :)Link :visited colour is now Maroon and there is no ISP option any more :)
Does not worry me...but if an option is there I would like it to work as expected.
Ian
I'd also be interested in this Chrysalis..
So the real barriers are really.
1 - Is tony ok with a script that can uploadbeenbeing open source? he may have reservations against that.
Is the PI version of dslstats written in python? Regardless of what language its written in, basically the change needed would just be to remove the GUI elements, so the configuration would be in ini files, and it would just collect process the data, then it would work fine on any linux based router.
I'm very much out of my depth here, but surely when DSLStats is running on RPi it's essentially headless? I can't see why there is a showstopper.
The question is do you think its possible for you to have the time make a cutdown version of your linux tool, where none of the GUI features exist, it just runs in a cli mode to collect stats and upload them?
I will then see if ronski (or eric) can make their app's able to import these logs for uploading to MDWS. So uploads can still happen but wouldn't be live updates.
How much space would DSLstats require on a RPI?
See this is why I keep using my laptop as it has essentially unlimited hard drive space...
pi@raspberrypi ~ $ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs 29G 2.9G 25G 11% /
/dev/root 29G 2.9G 25G 11% /
devtmpfs 214M 0 214M 0% /dev
You just purchase a larger SD card for the RPi just like you purchase a larger capacity HD but i think 32GB is the max you can use on the RPi not sure about that.Plenty of 128GB cards work http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
Plenty of 128GB cards work http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
and how much do 32 gig cards cost?
Time for a stupid question... :-[
Where do I enter the ISP details? I have looked in the config but for the life of me I cannot see it.
Ah.. I see... it's not there though. :)
Ah.. I see... it's not there though. :)
P.S. Would be nice to see what the hardware was for each user, but I realise that could be a bit of a nightmare.
That is coming.... If you go to the Options link then you can select your upload modem or modem/router but it isn't displayed yet as it's part of V2.0 in the future....
That is coming.... If you go to the Options link then you can select your upload modem or modem/router but it isn't displayed yet as it's part of V2.0 in the future....
I see it. No Netgear D7000 in there yet. :)
MDWS Updates
... View Image/Save still won't work with FireFox/Waterfox
I think it would be nice if you could disable upstream/downstream and only show one of them if desired.
Hi Tony,
Any chance (when you get a moment) to add the ZyXEL VMG8924-B10A to the modem dropdown list under the MDWS 'Options link', please.
Rgds,
Chris
Before I embarrass my self further, which is only too easy, may I ask if, suitable for ADSL with Billion 8800NL router; recommended recording interval?Just the bold part, please! :)
What is purpose of memorable phrase?
What is purpose of memorable phrase?
Hi Tony,
Any chance (when you get a moment) to add the ZyXEL VMG8924-B10A to the modem dropdown list under the MDWS 'Options link', please.
Rgds,
Chris
Done :)
33 2015 Sep 17 12:30:07 Attack warn Port Scan Attack: IN=pppoa1 OUT=n/a MAC= SRC=81.174.137.167 DST= LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xA0 TTL=124 PROTO=UDP SPT=58527 DPT=137 LEN=58 MARK=0x8000000
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46 2015 Sep 17 12:27:50 Account warn last message repeated 1 times in 0 seconds
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Nothing like new active development to remind me to donate. What is the preferred minimum donation? Thanks
Hello,
I signed up for mydslwebstats a few days ago and have noticed in my firewall logs that the web server is trying to initiate connections on port143137 (NetBEUI)with alarming regularity. Could someone investigate and see what's going on please?
Firewall logs (sanity checked and a small sample) below.
Thanks.
Nothing like new active development to remind me to donate. What is the preferred minimum donation? Thanks
I have just donated and think the prefered minimum is £10
Hi, thanks for taking swift action, but this is far from normal. There's a whole discussion to be had about how serious NetBIOS over the internet is, but it'll suffice to post these links explaining. Source: I'm a network security engineer for a blue chip company.Hello,
I signed up for mydslwebstats a few days ago and have noticed in my firewall logs that the web server is trying to initiate connections on port143137 (NetBEUI)with alarming regularity. Could someone investigate and see what's going on please?
Firewall logs (sanity checked and a small sample) below.
Thanks.
It's a Windows based server and the reason you see it is because Windows is trying to resolve the remote host via NetBIOS (on Port 137) name as well as with DNS. Perfectly normal and is the default setup on a card although I can see your concern, it does look a bit frequent... I'll disable it on the NIC and see what happens, hopefully nothing untoward (now done).
MDWS SERVER DOWNTIME and INTERFACE UPGRADE TO V2.0
Any chance of you removing the reference to Plusnet on your DLM gadget or it there any option for the End user to remove it ?
Just that it isn't unique to Plusnet ,other ISP's use the DLM Speed stability option too, As if i were to be a donator i would appreciate that it be free of Branding & ads
It all seems to be working properly (although I haven't checked every detail of course) so well done Tony.
I don't no if it's a glitch but saying I can only view 5 days stats because I have not donated , I did donate a few days back and my user name shows in green
Cheers
Chris
The DLM data popup is not showing on my screen, no matter how long or where I hover my mouse. If I hover over the traffic lights I do get a small black popup with text display but that's all. What am I doing wrong?
Stuart (broadstair on mydslwebstats)
Looks good :) - thanks. Only issue here is that you seem to have tick "show status" each time you open it. Other settings seem to be remembered.
all seams to be working here , i can get more info about the traffic lights if i hover my cursor above but how do i get the full interface that is shown on your post about the update please
cheers
chris
Click on the traffic lights.
It is Chrome on XP! . All settings look fine and everything else is remembered OK. No expiry is set. The status setting is lost when ever new page or tab is opened. I also have just noticed that if I open MDWS in one tab and enable it, then when second tab opens MDWS then both tabs don't have the setting set. Opening the second tab resets the first tab status to off.
This is great and very fast though show status tick is not saving the setting :-\
Click on the traffic lights.
That does nothing, on my screen (Firefox in Linux) does not show the traffic lights as a link. However I see the new screen on my W7 PC and it does work. I have cleared the cache in Linux but still shows the old layout.
Stuart
I have cleared the cache in Linux but still shows the old layout.
Stuart
QuoteI have cleared the cache in Linux but still shows the old layout.
Stuart
So is the dropdown with the Graph Sizes also not working? The link only appears on the new wider graphs... Have you selected another graph size under Linux? Or tried a different browser?
Tony it worked without any alterations or new options on W7 in Firefox, but no I've not tried that in Linux but i would not have expected to change anything since W7 worked with no changes. I'll try that later on Linux as I'm using W7 right now as that PC is on 24x7 (runs my weather station and DSLStats).QuoteI have cleared the cache in Linux but still shows the old layout.
Stuart
So is the dropdown with the Graph Sizes also not working? The link only appears on the new wider graphs... Have you selected another graph size under Linux? Or tried a different browser?
Stuart
See post below. It does via a persistent cookie but maybe you have two tabs open and then the second one will negate the first and you shouldn't have two tabs open anyway, it isn't supported and never has been.
See post below. It does via a persistent cookie but maybe you have two tabs open and then the second one will negate the first and you shouldn't have two tabs open anyway, it isn't supported and never has been.
Just using the one tab i use 2 panes, how do you set a persistent cookie on Chrome ?
Settings > Advanced > Content Settings > and make sure for Cookies that the first radio button is set, not the others. The last checkbox is up to you but I always check that ....
However, I think the problem probably lies somewhere else ... I just ran it on Chrome here (I normally use Waterfox as it's more stable for me) and closing/restarting it doesn't lose the Show Status setting...
Thanks Tony have been at this all day to find a cure/fix well i did watch F1 it could well be a Vista thingy i'll check out windows 8.1 later and see how that fairs.
It is Chrome on XP! . All settings look fine and everything else is remembered OK.
Tony it worked without any alterations or new options on W7 in Firefox, but no I've not tried that in Linux but i would not have expected to change anything since W7 worked with no changes. I'll try that later on Linux as I'm using W7 right now as that PC is on 24x7 (runs my weather station and DSLStats).QuoteI have cleared the cache in Linux but still shows the old layout.
Stuart
So is the dropdown with the Graph Sizes also not working? The link only appears on the new wider graphs... Have you selected another graph size under Linux? Or tried a different browser?
Stuart
Okay but what does the Graph Size option currently read on both OS?
Thanks Tony have been at this all day to find a cure/fix well i did watch F1 it could well be a Vista thingy i'll check out windows 8.1 later and see how that fairs.
Likewise, there's a rather large peak in my latency graph as a result via Sky Go. Shame about Lewis :-\
On W7 it said standard and on linux it said original and I dont remember changing either or playing with either at any time. Now I've changed Linux to standard it works and if I change it back to original it disappears again.
Stuart
Just the same with Chrome in windows 7. I have gone to running with "original" - this seems to remove the status option and effectively set it on. Just to repeat - everything seems to be perfectly remembered apart from the status.
Thanks for a possible fixup :) . I think that would best for me and probably others with trouble saving the setting.
Thanks for a great upgrade Tony; I have just spotted an anomaly with the Mini stats page.
The horizontal scroll bar is always present, see screenie.
Ian
which Browser (
@tbailey2
I understand that support for the MyDSLStats webpage is through this forum. I have an issue in that after making my £10 donation last night, the emal came back saying it was credited to the wrong user account. I clearly wrote username:tenbyboy2 in the message part of the paypal message section.
Can this please be rectified?
Thanks.
Thanks for the quickly reply and for sorting it.
Reason I created a new account is because I forgot the password and then when I tried to reset it, it said my memorable word was incorrect - even though I know it was as I still have the original email.
Is there any chance you can delete that old account now for me please? Also, I'm sure I had that problem before and there is also a tenbyboy acount.
Many thanks. It won't happen again as I have now made a not of all the details of the new account.
Team,
Firstly, thanks for the great work on this.
I am using a Netgear D7000. mydslwebstats is sent from a Windows 7 PC.
1) My request (if its not already there!) is to be able to look at a linear graph showing the cumulative CRC errors.
2) Observation: While listening to internet radio via a web browser, everytime the app sends data to the web, there is a short break in transmission. Is there any way round this
Well I've got to say that's going to be a pain, fine on my PC but I have a tab open on my phone and tablet so I can have a quick and having to log back in every 7 days is going to get annoying. It's actually easier to login to my bank from my phone.Oh dear - and also when the browser session is lost....
Also there will be a change to logins shorty. Web users will need to login every 7 days rather than be kept logged in. This is one of a number of background security changes.
I'll have a look shortly....
tony I feel you either need to make the login process easier or ease up on the 7 day thing as its a bit of a pain to login.
What was wrong with the long lived session? Forcing relogin is false security.
What about a compromise of 28 days?
Has anyone else no longer got the high resolution graph option where instead of 0-8db is shown just 5-6 db is shown? Thanks
I cant understand what actually is the problem with logging on again. It only needs a username and password, not the passphrase or capture stuff we had previously.
Have I missed something here as I cant in my mind see what the issue is ?
Tony
Just in case anyone else has the same issue I think you need to be using one of the supporter graphs to see this option.Has anyone else no longer got the high resolution graph option where instead of 0-8db is shown just 5-6 db is shown? Thanks
Yep it's still there just used a few minutes ago.
Just in case anyone else has the same issue I think you need to be using one of the supporter graphs to see this option.Has anyone else no longer got the high resolution graph option where instead of 0-8db is shown just 5-6 db is shown? Thanks
Yep it's still there just used a few minutes ago.
DSLAM is being detected as Huawei but it is an ECI cab. I have tried restarting modem and dslStats Pi but it is still showing as Huawei. It has been showing as ECI but I do not know when the problem started. Anything else I should be trying? Thanks
DSLAM is being detected as Huawei but it is an ECI cab. I have tried restarting modem and dslStats Pi but it is still showing as Huawei. It has been showing as ECI but I do not know when the problem started. Anything else I should be trying? Thanks
Probably a glitch in the uploaded data. I need your username to fix it. PM if necessary please.
Looks ok but the upstream is a bit low. Are you using the SR102 with the HG612 modem or another router?
Is the upstream speed around the same as the estimate then?
So does the SR102 plug straight into the modem with no setting changes and do you have to use the LAN port marked with the green bar or does any one work?
Unacceptable.
Unacceptable.
What an totally inappropriate comment
even worse he/she does not seem to a be user of MDWS anymore so why complain if your not using it :-\
Quote from: NewtronStar link=topic=14361.msg302460#msg302460even worse he/she does not seem to a be user of MDWS anymore so why complain if your not using it :-\
Stop stalking my Internet usage, it's creeping me out.
Wow nobody here can take a joke!
I disabled my uploads to ease the stress since I am guessing its not helping having all the clients trying to connect to upload stats.
Will turn back on after its fixed.
Your 'joke' was not funny. Tony already mentioned that he's having to deal with another crisis, so your thoughtless comment got the reaction you should have expected. Drop it now.
Hope it helped some of you with your stats analysis although I suspect it also created a few obsessed users as a result ???
Many thanks also to Kitz for allowing use of the forum for MDWS support for the past year.
Tony
I still get a temporary home page.
Thanks for all your good work, Tony, and as a reward you can have an extra hour in bed tomorrow morning. :)
That reminds me the RPi / Raspbian does not see the extra hour in bed ;)
That reminds me the RPi / Raspbian does not see the extra hour in bed ;)
I'm slightly ashamed to admit that DSLstats doesn't handle it unless you close it down and restart it.
Hi all :)
Thanks to all of those of you who left comments, it was these that persuaded me to have a go at getting it going again after getting rather upset and despondent at some remarks that were left initially after the server disastrously crashed.
Yes, it is (nearly) all running again and should be back on line tomorrow. It's taken a while beavering away in the background due mainly to having to fit in totally rebuilding the server from scratch and upgrading the basic software in the process and that had a number of knock-on effects. Just a couple of things still to fix, for instance the latency monitor isn't working at the moment. It hasn't been available publicly as I have been restarting it all frequently and has been down for hours at a time.
The holding page you get depends on where you come in from but wasn't intentional and I'll try to fix later.
There are about 30 people currently uploading, some never stopped!
I'll post more when it's available again.
Welcome back Tony ;D
Hope the donations page will be the first one to be going back up live :)
I'd be intrigued to know if you've found out what caused the major failure of the server? :no:
Yes, that page is working well, I tested it earlier myself :lol:
The crash was complicated but basically I had uninstalled an AV (Webroot Secure Anywhere that I've sued for some time) a few days before due to it slowing down the server and not being able to exclude anything from scanning, and then restarted the server to eliminate it totally.
BUT the b*** thing still had a process running that fired off and Blue Screened the server since all its files had vanished by then.
It was also in the process of writing to the database and a lot of things got screwed up. Then despite having some 130 backups, it proved impossible to restore them, something I'm having a debate with the makers over as they say it shouldn't have happened... Hence the rebuild which should have solved all these problems. Certainly the restore works as it's running one at the moment.
I know - but I'm getting invalid username when i try to log on to the website 'weird' as that the same username I have in DSLStats to upload my data
I'll wait until Tony has chance to read this and hopefully he can help me figure out whats wrong - I suspect he will embarrass me with a 'USER ERROR' issue ;D
I know - but I'm getting invalid username when i try to log on to the website 'weird' as that the same username I have in DSLStats to upload my data
I've released an update to HG612 Stats GUI which removes anything MyDSLWebstats related from the GUI and automatically turns off the uploads. Hopefully this will disable uploads for people who haven't seen this thread who are using HG612 Stats & the GUI program.
Ronski just posted elsewhere
Until I reinstate the options, which probably won't be until Tuesday night you have two options.
1. Roll back to a previous version of the GUI, which if you've not disabled the backup option will be in the backup folder, then don't update until I release another update.
2. Edit the ini file manually and change the option for upload to YES. Then don't run the GUI until I release an update.
Hope that helps.
Why o why is SKY GO bufferibg with Sky Sports F1 are you seeing this to Tony ?
Anyone having issues logging in with Chrome on Android? It just says invalid user name? Working fine in Firefox on my desktop. Have tried clearing all data in Chrome and it does not help.
Hi Tony,
Thanks for bringing this back. Its a great tool.
However I'm also having the same "Invalid User Name!" issue.
I've tried 3 different browsers, cleared all the history, cookies, saved info etc and reset my password plenty of times now, but still cant get in :(
Have you any other ideas I can try?
Thanks
Hi Tony,
Thanks for bringing this back. Its a great tool.
However I'm also having the same "Invalid User Name!" issue.
I've tried 3 different browsers, cleared all the history, cookies, saved info etc and reset my password plenty of times now, but still cant get in :(
Have you any other ideas I can try?
Thanks
Please try again now, think I've found out why it's failing for some ...
Anyone having issues logging in with Chrome on Android? It just says invalid user name? Working fine in Firefox on my desktop. Have tried clearing all data in Chrome and it does not help.Working for me now also. Thanks.
CLOCKS [AGAIN!]
Just a reminder that MDWS thinks many of you have moved to Europe since the clocks went back!!
Please check your clocks are not in DST any more - if you have an asterisk next to your username in the user lists at page bottom (and are not in Europe!) then your clock still needs sorting.
RPis need a manual reset and DSLstats needs a restart/reload.
NStar for the RPi says:
I use the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and select Europe and London it does take a few minutes for the RPi to initiate the new settings.
It should do if it's set up properly. But DSLstats doesn't change with it unless you close it down and restart it.
Done but you'll need to hit F5 to get the facilities....
Is it just me or are the stats at the top of the page wrong?
Are the stats at the top full term or just from when you login to mydslweb stats?
Stange mine are wrong My CRC/FEC/ETC are showing as much lower than what i am seeing from my local stats
Even the Grafs are showing more
Is it possible to request that the HiRes option is remembered in a future version? Thanks
Tony -- A small request from The Cattery, please. Would it be possible for the selected "Graph Size" to persist? :-\
On every occasion when I use your utility to view A.N.Other's statistics, the "Graph Size" has defaulted to "Standard" even though I had previously selected "Large".
Are the Errors i am seeing anything to be worried about?
can you have a little look at my webstats thanks and let me know what you think :fingers: ..
I just cant get my head around the errors/stats i am seeing ???
Great same for "Show Total Averages" would be fantasticIs it possible to request that the HiRes option is remembered in a future version? Thanks
Yes but it would be set globally and via the Options popup.
i see now a am now amber amber red.
Anyway it's fixed now and should display the correct size. If, for some reason there is no size set (loss of the cookie holding the value) it defaults to Standard.
If it persists can you describe a sequence that reproduces it please?
Anyway it's fixed now and should display the correct size. If, for some reason there is no size set (loss of the cookie holding the value) it defaults to Standard.
If it persists can you describe a sequence that reproduces it please?
Thank you Tony. I'll see how it now behaves for me.
I went back 120 days on MDWS it says waiting i take it our history is unsalvageable since the server crash ?
I went back 120 days on MDWS it says waiting i take it our history is unsalvageable since the server crash ?
No, database is all still there from the daily backups - mind you you did ask me to delete your account :D . Looking at what?
Works fine here on SNRM at 120 days and back 360 days as well...
newt you wanted account gone?
SNRM not showing history above 3 days on MDWS using PC 32 bit windows with Chrome Version 46.0.2490.80 m
Just tried on Firefox, Chrome and IE11, could view Roseways SNRM db graphs without problems on all 3, for any number of days. (W7 Pro 64bit)
Just tried on Firefox, Chrome and IE11, could view Roseways SNRM db graphs without problems on all 3, for any number of days. (W7 Pro 64bit)
It is very odd I can see others SNRM over 3 days apart from Roseways
It certainly works for me. :)
The only suggestion I have to make is to clear the cookie(s) for MDWS and the browser cache. :-\
Same for BaldEagle1 SNRM anything above 2 days it goes into a waiting state
Same for BaldEagle1 SNRM anything above 2 days it goes into a waiting state
Works for me, but I can only go back 5 days
found the problem it's in the options under Check to show SNRM graph Resyncs if it's ticked then I don't see the SNRM graphs above 3 days.
give me a gold medal ;D
Mine says up to date and it is 5.6? and the stats looked OK.
Mine says up to date and it is 5.6? and the stats looked OK.
Looking at your stats, you are not running a Thomson/Technicolor router/modem as there is data there that they do not provide.... You can display your router/modem via the Options link at the bottom of the main page.
Mine says up to date and it is 5.6? and the stats looked OK.
Looking at your stats, you are not running a Thomson/Technicolor router/modem as there is data there that they do not provide.... You can display your router/modem via the Options link at the bottom of the main page.
I am not and never had one.
EDIT: MyDSLWebStats.Co.Uk + DSLstats_W32 V5.6
Okay, they are meant to be like that unless I'm missing something.
See here (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14361.msg303802.html#msg303802) ...
In your case, I can guess why that is (to do with no recent uploads) and I'll fix it in the morning and rearrange the order of the options a bit...
Okay, they are meant to be like that unless I'm missing something.
See here (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14361.msg303802.html#msg303802) ...
That's ok it's just a bit of hassle to turn on/off the ES total/averages from within the options and save then hit F5 rather than click on and another click off from the GUI it was so simple you had it set like this before.
Edit: Try it again now.....
I have noticed what maybe a small bug with the DLM error count, the upstream appears to work ok, but the DS is hanging on to 1 error second even after several days with no ds error seconds reported ??
Edit: Try it again now.....
Just a quick note to confirm that all is now good. Thank you. :)
This F5 button on the Keyboard will be worn out well before the left mouse button but if that's the consensus I can live with it ;D
This F5 button on the Keyboard will be worn out well before the left mouse button but if that's the consensus I can live with it ;D
Why :hmm:
This F5 button on the Keyboard will be worn out well before the left mouse button but if that's the consensus I can live with it ;D
Why :hmm:
I'll be using the F5 button on keyboard more as I switch on/off the ES totals
Also, if you are on a dynamic IP then you need to update the link when it changes otherwise you'll get some very strange results.
Could TBB not fix their system to support dynamic IP's as there are quite a few around?Also, if you are on a dynamic IP then you need to update the link when it changes otherwise you'll get some very strange results.
Could you not monitor the IP which is uploading the data and automatically disable the latency graph when you see a change?
Is there a problem haven't been able to login since yesterday afternoon
Could TBB not fix their system to support dynamic IP's as there are quite a few around?Also, if you are on a dynamic IP then you need to update the link when it changes otherwise you'll get some very strange results.
Could you not monitor the IP which is uploading the data and automatically disable the latency graph when you see a change?
Mouselike.org supports them.
I can't even get to the website just says failed to connect either from wired or a wireless device. Just tried my mobile on o2 that takes me straight in but no upload since about 12.30 yesterday.
Yeah that was my mobile. Just checked the server and that has internet connection and software running. OK Tony will doJust confirmation this is now fixed...
I did a cleanup using CCleaner yesterday and ever since doing this i have lost the stats pane in graph size standard it shows up ok if i select original and have looked for a setting to turn it back on again but cannot seem to find it.I think you'll find using CCleaner and other Windows 'Registry Cleaners'/PC Optimisers etc is a total waste of time and energy and doesn't achieve anything other than cause problems like you have now. I have an adversity to letting a free 3rd-party program loose on my PC to delete whatever it feels shouldn't be there even if you can select from loads of options... What is considered unnecessary to CCleaner may be vital to something else (as you may have discovered)...
Probably not a very worthwhile thing to do as there is no monitoring of IPs changing as such - and even if there was, there's no guarantee that the user hasn't immediately uploaded a new graph location so it gets complicated to handle (I'm on a dynamic IP on one of my lines and do the change automatically after a resync).
Yes I realise that but the needed info isn't there currently as I said. I'll add it to the list.Probably not a very worthwhile thing to do as there is no monitoring of IPs changing as such - and even if there was, there's no guarantee that the user hasn't immediately uploaded a new graph location so it gets complicated to handle (I'm on a dynamic IP on one of my lines and do the change automatically after a resync).
If you were inclined to implement such a feature that would be easy to deal with: store the TBB URL and the IP address has changed but the TBB URL hasn't it should be removed.
Edit:
I've removed a bit of code that looks for a cookie that might have been deleted by CCleaner and isn't recreated very often. See if it works now.
Has the other one gone now?
As I'm uploading from Ireland, is there a geo-block or is my ISP (Vodafone Ireland) blacklisted perhaps? I can browse the MDWS site without issue on other ISP's so I assume maybe it's an ISP issue?
Tony this morning I was sent an email by MDWS saying I was uploading again, this happened at 00:06 today but the thing is I had not had an upload failure message or a retrain, my PC sending the uploads was rebooted about 24 hours ago and I do not see any gaps in my graphs. Not concerned but thought I'd mention it.
Stuart
Can you PM me your current IP Address please (the one that's giving the problem, not proxied though)
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ (http://whatismyipaddress.com/)
Thanks
DSLStats does not show any break in what it was doing in the event log.
Okay :)
I can't find anything that would affect that range but just in case I've allowed it anyway (but after you sent your mail!)...
NB: You have an interesting U/L sync at 20480.....
I've moved the very interesting but off-topic discussion of OpenEIR to http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,16506.0.html
Hello, I am a new member from Italy.
I would point out that I think there is a bug in the status bar.
As you can see from the attached image, the attenuation value upload (highlighted in yellow) is incorrectly printed in the box of the ES.
I encountered the same problem also looking at the statistics of other users.
I hope I was helpful
Hi and Welcome!
You are quite correct and the U/S ES and Attenuation columns have been reversed for about a year! I've corrected it now so thanks for pointing it out.
NB: not all modems report an U/S value.
I'll also welcome our New Zealand user while I'm at it.... I had to check on where the +13 hours time offset was coming from ???
Excellent work Tony!
It's just taken me three attempts to find the correct TBB URL to enter. I wonder if others had issues trying to set theirs so perhaps some guidance notes might be in order (it's a URL ending png not html).
would be possible to show the user's ISP
Quotewould be possible to show the user's ISP
It does show the user's ISP, but the user has to enable it first (it's in the options, under the graphs). You can see mine, for example.
I've corrected my nonsense.
Tony I am wondering if it might be an idea to alter the frequency of emails when uploads fail. Mine started last night after I had gone to bed and this morning I had 20+ emails about it. Perhaps you could adapt the frequency of emails according to how long uploads have failed for, so for the first hour you send 6, after that only sending maybe one per half hour for a couple of hours and the hourly if still has not restarted. If this happened while I was on holiday it could be days before I saw it and would flood my inbox on the server with emails.
Stuart
It's a lot easier if you set a longer repeat interval in the first place please to avoid this happening.... After all you get a resume message if it comes back before the next fail message was due. I may default it to an hour anyway to avoid this problem.
Just wondering about the fail emails some more. I had to turn the power off yesterday to do some work here which means ofcourse that there will be no uploads even though my laptop running DSLStats will still operate for an hour or so on battery but the router is off. Now currently this will trigger a fail email after my initial period (currently 15 mins). Is there any way DSLStats could tell MDWS that uploading has stopped deliberately? That way I could stop DSLStats trying to record for the duration of the outage, something I dont bother with right now. Just a thought.....
Stuart
Hi Ive just started using myDSLwebstats and its great. I am running a Billion 8800nl with DSLStats on raspberry pi. Although I have noticed two things:
-I don't seem to have any G.INP stats on the site
-And why does my sync rate highlight in yellow even tho its only 4kbs from the attainable. A little too sensitive if you ask me
My username on myDSL is: GaZaai
OK cheers, and yeah I know.. I'm just a bit OCD and don't like seeing the alert for something so little, if you know what I mean hahaThere is now an arbitrary 5% tolerance on U/S and D/S before it puts the warning on so see how that goes :) This will also remove the warning on some (but not all) G.INP lines where the Attainable is often a lot higher than the current Sync rate.
I don't know how modems calculate the attainable figures, but in my case (with G.INP enabled) the attainable downstream is about 18 Mbps less than the actual speed. So I'm sure it's right to ignore the attainable speed when G.INP is enabled.Yes, it's set to warn when the Sync is greater than the Attainable - which is the same as you are finding! I'll see if I can turn it off completely for G.INP enabled lines..
Please can you advise if the Netgear D6400 can be added to the list for Upload Modems?
If it works okay, yes....
why didnt you host the javascript locally? using a 3rd party you have no control over for code is a big security risk no? not to mention bad for performance with an extra dns lookup.
Or is there something I am missing. :)
I think this would be a useful feature for when one is away from home and ones DDNS service fails preventing remote access (as has just happened to me!).Just sign up to an additional DDNS service.
Good morning Tony,It is already displayed at the top of the Options popup - or at least the address you are using for the web site is. Conceivably, it may not be the address you are uploading from though if you have multiple lines or aren't at home/work.
If this is considered a security vulnerability then perhaps the public IP address could be displayed in the users account information.
I should probably know the answer to this, but I'm not sure. On my stats (user=toulouse), the upstream sync rate is showing as 5999 highlighted in yellow. The max attainable is 5895. Could someone please explain the significance, if any, of this situation.
toulouse
How do you have the switch ports configured? Default spanning tree can be slow to go to forwarding state, use "portfast" if you can be sure of no loops.Thanks. From memory it's as it came (about two years old) straight out of the box since visually it was doing what was required for the ports. The server is on port 8 and I could see zero LED activity yesterday until powered on/off whereas other ports were actively passing data. I'll dig out the instructions when I get some time.
Seeing slow loading of the graphs again although it seems to be randomly loading slowly and sometimes the whole thing is slow to resolve , also sometimes one of the panes fails to load giving the connection was reset message from firefoxI can't see anything untoward in the logs from that time period - data to you was delivered in 280ms at worst and from then on it's mostly up to your end and the routing involved.
Have noticed on the SRNM graph there are small gaps of 10mins without any upload it seem to have started yesterday at 15:00, what I have done is to reboot RPi and router to see if it fixes this issue but no.
Is there anything else I should try like change the DNS server the router is set to use Google DNS
Don't forget that the server was intentionally down yesterday from 15:00 on and off for 40 mins while the UPS was sorted and some other changes made. The current problem is different but does seem to be primarily affecting DSLstats users as Newt observed. My own uploads are also made using DSLstats and that is running on the server and thus directly into the database. That is fine and makes me think this is not a server problem. I'll eliminate cables and switch in an hour or so.Have noticed on the SRNM graph there are small gaps of 10mins without any upload it seem to have started yesterday at 15:00, what I have done is to reboot RPi and router to see if it fixes this issue but no.I'm seeing this too for around the same time frame?
If i select the option that displays both up and down stream snr's i see a lot of small gaps in the snr traces, this displays on less than 24hrs or up to the 2 days mark,
But if i select to view up or downstream only snr's there are no gaps displayed So it would appear to be a cosmetic issue and not a data upload issue IMO
mmm, seems to be working without any gaps since around 2am for me,
It's more cosmetic than anything as they are the same company now, but my current IP (79.67.98.xx) is showing up as Tiscali on MDWS but I'm on TalkTalk. I think it's more their fault for reusing a block of IPs and not updating the whois details.Well the IP lookup comes back with both - the main entry used for getting the ISP is for Tiscali but the abuse@ contact mail is for TalkTalk....!! I'll change it for you.
It's more cosmetic than anything as they are the same company now, but my current IP (79.67.98.xx) is showing up as Tiscali on MDWS but I'm on TalkTalk. I think it's more their fault for reusing a block of IPs and not updating the whois details.Well the IP lookup comes back with both - the main entry used for getting the ISP is for Tiscali but the abuse@ contact mail is for TalkTalk....!! I'll change it for you.
Database Unavailable.. Is MDWS fighting some gremlins tonight Tony? edit, now it's back up again??
just Haewei cabs not ECI cabs. Us ECI cab users are still hopping for G.inpYes, as an ECI user I'm hopping - mad >:D
Hi
I hope you don't mind, but I read you have a geotrust SSL
I'm sure you know already, but just in case you did not, you can get a free SSL from startssl (startssl.com) and renew free.
There is also lets encrypt, who offer free SSL
Many thanks
John
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Nope, not in my drop down! :no:
I thought SES was Severely Errored Second.I guess so when there's only one...
Apologies. What I mean is you have them as Seriously, but I think they're Severely.I thought SES was Severely Errored Second.I guess so when there's only one...
Kitz defines them as plural as are Errored Second(s)...
I also note:
Ten consecutive SES's
I thought SES was Severely Errored Second.
Nope, not in my drop down! :no:
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14361.0;attach=18825;image)
There is nothing wrong with your data, except that you haven't uploaded very much for some reason - your last upload was at 13:09....
The resync events shown are correct, one gets generated each time you turn off/on your modem/router. They are shown as Reason 0 Loss of Service (LOS) events. That means the modem has to renegotiate the connection or resync it and resets the line Uptime it keeps a record of to zero. You can see this via the Uptime graph and it is that is used to work out the time of the resync.
The second one shown did change the Upstream speed, but there isn't always a change in sync speeds. The resync events won't show on your graphs as you don't have enough uploaded data yet (hover over the little blue icon by the checkbox for showing these and it will explain).
There are no ways of deleting data, it's all useful.
Ok, thanks Tony.No, they are held for up to a year. They'll be recorded even if the program is not running but only when the downtime is an hour
So, do the resyncs logged only count when the program is running and are these stored infinitely?
Ok, thanks Tony.No, they are held for up to a year. They'll be recorded even if the program is not running but only when the downtime is an hour
So, do the resyncs logged only count when the program is running and are these stored infinitely?
or less (from memory). If the downtime is longer some or all that occurred during that time may be lost.
I see you are running again now...
They were the only ones in the timeframes you have been uploading, but may have missed something in the downtime gap (about 4 hours in all) although it doesn't look like it from the stats.Ok, thanks Tony.No, they are held for up to a year. They'll be recorded even if the program is not running but only when the downtime is an hour
So, do the resyncs logged only count when the program is running and are these stored infinitely?
or less (from memory). If the downtime is longer some or all that occurred during that time may be lost.
I see you are running again now...
That's interesting, because I must've turned the router off and on several times today and it's only recorded two.
Hi tony
I hope you don't mind, but there's 2 things as follows
Firstly - your website is dropping out of secure once logged in. I don't know if this intentional but I would think not
Secondly - I like your new layout, just took me a while to work out where to change graphs, but this is my age I think, getting too old
Many thanks
John
The target margin is only a target at sync time. It may have synced at 6 but noise has increased since then.
The target margin is only a target at sync time. It may have synced at 6 but noise has increased since then.
Wow, it must be a good modem then to hold at such a low SNR Margin for so long.
The target margin is only a target at sync time. It may have synced at 6 but noise has increased since then.
Wow, it must be a good modem then to hold at such a low SNR Margin for so long.
Not necessarily, theres a lot of lines which will hold 3db, it all depends on the amount of fluctuation. He's only fluctuating 0.5 dB between 3.6 and 3.1 if it spikes. Over a year ago aardvark used to keep his line up for months, he'd get a new crosstalker, his SNRm would go down a bit, then another crosstalker etc. iirc this went on for many months until he got to about 2dB. Then DLM forced a resync.
The technology behind adsl and vdsl is the same. Im sure Ive show you one of my old mrtg graphs showing holding 3dB for many months without a resync... it would do the same at 2dB. In fact just for laughs I took it down to 1.5db and here you can see it held for 5 weeks before I took it back up to 3.
Some people using DSLstats do miss uploads every so often but why is a mystery in most cases.
One reason though as suggested can be Sleep or Hibernation as it happened to me on an ADSL line on a machine that slept overnight but unloading and reloading DSLstats afterwards stopped it happening (until next time). I am not aware of any problems with the overall system that cause it, the occasional upload just does not arrive at the server for some people. I don't believe the DSLstats logs show anything in these cases though.
I don't see any missing data when uploading directly to the server or on another line I monitor have that is remotely connected 24 hours a day, both using DSLstats.
Quite possibly because those three CRCs all occurred within one second. An errored second (ES) is a second in which one or more uncorrected errors occurred.
May I ask but does the ES graph use data from accumulated real time data or from history e.g. is my ES wrong for today due to data problems?
No that isn't the way it works. The one errored second stays as just that, nothing else is recorded until the line is up again and the hour that that is in will only be partially accurate due to missing data. There is no 'guesstimate' of missing data anywhere in the system.
Nope, that is not what is happening. You appear to be misreading the way graphs are constructed.No that isn't the way it works. The one errored second stays as just that, nothing else is recorded until the line is up again and the hour that that is in will only be partially accurate due to missing data. There is no 'guesstimate' of missing data anywhere in the system.
That is not the way are graphs see it for example ES it increases DS/US keeps increasing when we stop logging into MDWS
If you have two points to plot, a Google Line Chart just connects a straight line between them so if the gap is umpteen hours and the second point has some error seconds, there will be a slowly rising line between the two which is what I believe you are seeing and the system has been like that since day one.
I suggest though that whatever you are on you stop taking it ???
No that isn't the way it works. The one errored second stays as just that, nothing else is recorded until the line is up again and the hour that that is in will only be partially accurate due to missing data. There is no 'guesstimate' of missing data anywhere in the system.
Lets say I cease uploading to MDWS now at 00:15 hours for 24 hours will my DS errored seconds show zero during that time period ?You appear to have done just that. Here follows a longer explanation while I partake of the third cup of tea of the morning.. ;)
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('51'),00), 5.4, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('52'),00), 4.9, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('53'),00), 5.1, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('54'),00), 5.1, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('55'),00), 5.1, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('56'),00), 5.4, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('57'),00), 5.4, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('58'),00), 5.4, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('07'),Number('59'),00), 4.6, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('00'),00), 4.7, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('01'),00), 5.3, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('02'),00), 4.9, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('03'),00), 5.1, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('04'),00), 4.4, 18.0,],
[new Date(2016,1,20,Number('08'),Number('05'),00), 5.4, 18.0,],
new Date(2016,1,21,Number('09'),00,00), 0, 15, 1, 0.1, 24],
Hope that helps - though I believe Cipralex makes it difficult to think clearly at times....
What is the XTR tab about, and what are the stats within that, as i can't fathom out what they meanSee here for now, caught up with house repairs currently:
@skynewb
If you look back at your historic Hlog entries, you'll see that they were fine up until 12:00 yesterday (they upload once every hour, as do all the Tone related files - see the Help system and previous posts here for more). Then your line was down for some time and when the next upload occurred at 16:00 they stopped displaying properly.
I've been through your data as best I can here and there appears to be a problem with your Hlog upload files now (the other are okay) - they apparently have some corrupted or extra data in (although I can't visually see exactly what) and they are not decoding properly and then stop the chart actually displaying due to a Javascript error.
Since nothing has changed at this end with the code for that, I suspect that something has at your end. Try unloading the stats program and starting it up again and see what happens at the next hour upload. If still a problem, then power down the modem for 30 mins and restart and see if it's okay then. Past that, I don't have any ideas currently.
Ok thanks Tony. I will reinstall and try again. The modem was rebooted yesterday so it might be something else. The pc was restarted too. I will try a couple of things tonight and see if any joy.I see it was still the same on your new username :(
Ok thanks Tony. I will reinstall and try again. The modem was rebooted yesterday so it might be something else. The pc was restarted too. I will try a couple of things tonight and see if any joy.I see it was still the same on your new username :(
Haven't got time to trace it all through so I've masked the problem by setting the value of the offending tone (15) to that of the previous one for now and all looks well.... That shouldn't have an practical effect on the data hopefully.
Haven't got time to trace it all through so I've masked the problem by setting the value of the offending tone (15) to that of the previous one for now and all looks well.... That shouldn't have an practical effect on the data hopefully.
Hi Tony I don't seem to be getting 100% uptime due to 4 of 5 gaps per day thought it was upload software versions but still the same , taken RPi offline for maintenance plenty of on-board ram only 30% used and done some stuff to memory card and also gave the router a new PPPoE connection.
I am starting to think this issue is on my side how does it look from your end ?
Thanks very much looks to be working - any chance of transferring my donation status to my new ID (skyECI) please as I won't be going back to old profile. ;)Done ;)
Hi Tony,Haven't got time to trace it all through so I've masked the problem by setting the value of the offending tone (15) to that of the previous one for now and all looks well.... That shouldn't have an practical effect on the data hopefully.
I may have missed something so could you please confirm what the issue is/was regarding the offending tone (15) of skynewb's Hlog data?
It does seem odd that correct/valid data was being consistently uploaded previously & now it consistently isn't.
If it's anything to do with the HG612 Modem Stats program, I'd rather fix it than simply mask a potential error.
I'm pretty confident that it is occurring due to something en-route though. I watched carefully the other evening when the server had a record number of uploaders and users and couldn't see anything of note. The server is never heavily loaded either currently.
Can you add TP-Link W9970 to the list of modem/routers please.This was added about two minutes after you asked but had to go out for rest of the day....
Would be great if you could add a slightly different colour to make eci ginp users noticeable and a link to the full page all users stats on the graph page would also be great :) thanks
How about making the User Name on the All User Stats page link to that user's other stats pageThat isn't currently feasible but I'll add it to the list of possible features yet to come.
i.e. link HG612-MultUsersLivei.htm to Container.htm
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 37534 Kbps, Downstream rate = 93184 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 11007 Kbps, Downstream rate = 55039 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Vectoring state: 1
VCE MAC Address: 0:10:fc:20:0:0
Total error samples Ethernet pkts sent: 131290
Total error samples Ethernet pkts discarded: 0
Total error samples statuses sent: 65645
Total error samples statuses discarded: 0
#define VECT_WAIT_FOR_CONFIG 0
#define VECT_FULL 1
#define VECT_WAIT_FOR_TRIGGER 2
#define VECT_RUNNING 3
#define VECT_DISABLED 4
#define VECT_UNCONFIGURED 5
Hi, I donated to MDWS but now I've created a new ID, I can't seem to access the additional features. Do I need to donate again?
I've noticed a bug with MDWS. For some reason, when I select the Errored Seconds graph, the scale is in years not hours!
General question, if we would like to see some kind of mdws support for hacked eci modems what would need to happen? Is there anything us users could do to help? As ginp is rolling out to eci cabs and giving better sync speeds using an eci modem some mdws support is wished :)
General question, if we would like to see some kind of mdws support for hacked eci modems what would need to happen? Is there anything us users could do to help? As ginp is rolling out to eci cabs and giving better sync speeds using an eci modem some mdws support is wished :)You'd need to ask in the respective threads for HG612 Modem Stats (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15483.0.html) and DSL Stats (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17106.0.html) really, as it's those two programs which harvest the stats and upload them to MDWS.
I don't seem able to change my password for logging on. Once I have used the reset email details and enter a new password I always get the error message invalid memorable phrase? - I know its the right one as the reminder page tells me what I used originally..This is/was a problem that was fixed earlier this month but your registrations precede the fix. The Memorable Phrase is now enforced as unique amongst all users but wasn't when you registered. You have two registrations so it's coming up with the wrong user when it tries to ID you....
and I know that DSLstats doesn't handle the time change properly, and is probably an hour out until it's stopped and restarted. But as you say, this seems to apply to everybody.
Apologies if this has been suggested before, but wouldn't it be better to store all the times in UTC (which doesn't change for summer time), and display them to the user in their local time zone?
Apologies if this has been suggested before, but wouldn't it be better to store all the times in UTC (which doesn't change for summer time), and display them to the user in their local time zone?An idea but would take a totally inordinate amount of time and effort to implement and it wouldn't fix a problem caused twice a year by a bug in 3rd party software/hardware (that of the RPi). It works as it stands except for the RPi being unable to return the correct time after a GMT/BST change without manual intervention....
Also I just switched on my Pi 2, it had the correct time and timezone (BST).
1)Would it be possible to include a direct link to the Multi-user view.
2)Tonight Im wanting to check a few people stats who have since gone offline, but I need to check say their cab type. The main window doesnt show it me (eg James11223), so I go to the multi-view - but I find that I can only select stats for currently active - Im sure I used to be able to view info if someone was offline too.
The only option I have from the 'View Active Only' drop down box is YES.
TIA
Couple of queries/requests please (Trying to update the days eci g.inps)
1)Would it be possible to include a direct link to the Multi-user view.
Tony does MDWS store the actual F/W for a users CAB and if so can it be currently displayed anyway on the website please?No it's not uploaded by either of the stats gatherers...
Stuart
I see only blank page when I open https://mydslwebstats.co.uk . Why?
Unfortunately it does not help.Can you PM me your IP address please?
Unfortunately when I've tried to register I've gotSee the direct mail I sent you to fix that....
"Sorry, the database update failed. Please press BACK and try again. The problem has been reported..."
It works, but DSLStats didn't sent my Hlog. Curious.It's not curious, the tone related files upload around the hour so will be there now if you have them set to upload...
Tony does MDWS store the actual F/W for a users CAB and if so can it be currently displayed anyway on the website please?No it's not uploaded by either of the stats gatherers...
Stuart
Hi Guys,Hi
I'm a relatively new member from Australia and was wondering why the MDWS website does not appear to be accessible from here?
Tony is it possible to see historical line configuration data on MDWS?Only for the graphed items, the stuff at the top is transient. If you have a specific date/time I could extract the XTRA data from the DB though (as a one off as long as he was uploading at the time). I see Williams line is about to go up in flames if it hasn't already
Tony is it possible to see historical line configuration data on MDWS? Ronski posted in William's thread saying several parameters changed on his line but I cannot see how came to that comment because all the parameters visible with historical data show no change, the parameters under the XTRA hover have no historical data.
Sounds like the simple answer is another RPi, although I run 2 copies on Windows as I've mentioned before but it does cause a problem with IP addresses.
Just to let you know, a lot of uploads are being missed at the moment, most likely MDWS side.I cannot see any sign of problems over past 24 hours here in the logs or with anyone else except for those few that suffer the same problem for whatever reason. The uploads you are (still) missing just aren't making it to the server.
@tbailey2 again today same issue as Monday but this time Cumulative not showing any retrains even though front page is showingTry it now, left out a negative sign :-X Have you got something living in your cab that wakes up occasionally and goes on a rampage?
I have attempted to create a second registration on MDWS for my second line, but keep getting "You already have an existing registration on MDWS!”. I think I am using unique details, but no luck. I see others with a second registration so wonder what my issue might be? Any advice welcome. Thanks.
I've recently noticed an issue where the stats bar increases in height, this with graph size large on Firefox. I think it's down to the username in the "Line Status for" box wrapping round to another line.I can't reproduce this anywhere under any version of Firefox or Waterfox I have here under Win 10, it never wraps. The graph height is not related but it will obviously displace a graph vertically. It might possibly do this on a low res smartphone display although it's fine on Galaxy S5. I have made a slight change to the code that might stop it but no way to test it here.
A couple of suggestions is there a possible method of highlighting if a line may be 1) banded 2) vectoring on the All Users stats table page?I am not aware of a method of detecting banding that won't generate more queries than it answers. Perhaps Kitz might have some ideas.
I can't reproduce this anywhere under any version of Firefox or Waterfox I have here under Win 10, it never wraps. The graph height is not related but it will obviously displace a graph vertically. It might possibly do this on a low res smartphone display although it's fine on Galaxy S5. I have made a slight change to the code that might stop it but no way to test it here.
I am not aware of a method of detecting banding that won't generate more queries than it answers. Perhaps Kitz might have some ideas.
Does it do it if you do zoom?Nope not even at 500%, not in FF or Iron
What browser is that? The cause there are the traffic lights.
With all this extra info on MDWS users stats I have had to increase monitor resolution from 1024 x 768 to 1920 X 1080 and purchase a magnify glass, come on guys there is only so much a human eye can see if your at the 40+ age with farsighted issues ;)
Tony, Rather than have it display strange data, wouldn't it be better to reject data being uploaded where the date/time is way out? I'd suggest more than an hour to avoid daylight saving time problems if that is a likely issue.
For @pdes
Your upload equipment clock thinks it's the 1st January 2012 00:58 at the moment :-X
This would account for the really strange data on your graphs!! It appears to have flipped back to end of 2011 around 21-05-2016 09:56:00...
Does indeed sound like he needs a new CMOS battery. They can be picked up pretty cheap for about a quid.
Over today and maybe tomorrow, the Apache process and possibly the entire server will be restarted a number of times for config changes. The former probably will pass unnoticed, the latter could mean up to 10 minutes.
Not sure about the evil entity bit. I've used them since 2003 or so for everything online with no problems and always found them very helpful when things infrequently go wrong.
If it helps, I've added a Google Wallet address for donations but as I've no idea what an incoming payment looks like via e-mail until someone sends one, then this is experimental until I can work out how to auto-process it into the system. There are some additional notes on the donations page. Note that anything using this address that is not a donation will end up in the trash bin.very much appreciated!!
Not sure about the evil entity bit. I've used them since 2003 or so for everything online with no problems and always found them very helpful when things infrequently go wrong.
Not yet but I'll likely change it to something more long lasting like who is the President of Russia or Wimbledon Mens Champion....
The page is invoked in response to a 403 Access Denied from the server and redirects to a user validation page. So the proxy server you tried for whatever reason has its IP banned.
I just tested this on a banned IP via a VPN and works fine under Chrome with no errors so no real idea why you saw that response. Can you say what the IP was please? Avoiding proxy servers is probably the best way round it if there is a problem. I've not seen this ever happen before. Are you registered with MDWS?
Hover your mouse over the green and it says the modem is MCT approved.
Is that what it is are the HG612 not MCT approved as openreach gave them out during fttc installsI just checked this with Kitz and they both are. She says:
In fact various ISP supplied modems are MCT approved, but they don't actually make the public MCT list. This is because the ISPs have submitted their branded modems themselves; for example Sky, BT, TT and presumably the EE Livebox although I'm not certain for the latter.But of course they have to be able to upload to MDWS as well so many approved modems won't show unless either HG612 Stats or DSLstats works with them (obviously ??? )
The original 8800NL has not passed BT's MCT for SIN 498 and there are no plans to put this through.
As already stated, that post I quoted was made on
Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:23 am
Are you looking at the users' Joined dates?
Is it possible to have my username changed for privacy reasons.Nope.
Can I delete my account then and start a new one?You can register again if you want and I can delete your old account and data off the server.
Hi,You haven't been 'erased' - Users are removed from the dropdown list after no upload for 48 hours (have a look in the original mails). Once you start uploading again you'll reappear but may need to refresh a dropdown list to see it. Using the Range date option allows you to see all users who have uploaded in the last 3 months but that option runs much slower than the Current option.
Great site. However need a little help.
My user has dis-appeared from the site. HG612 logging stopped for a few days (since the 18th) and now my username doesn't appear in the list any more. I can still login. I donated, which I thought let me keep data on the site longer.
My username is AngryMonky - any idea why I've been erased?
Thanks,
AM.
I've just enabled it on FEC
Tony could you please add a link so the all user stats is easily accesible without having to go through the graph interface?Done, now as a link to the right of the check box options at the bottom of the main window.
Thanks Tony, works a treat.
Done, now as a link to the right of the check box options at the bottom of the main window.
Hi Tony!I believe Eric has answered your question and I'm okay with that.
I've got a quick question regarding support for uploading data to MyDSLWebStats from DSLstats running on FreeBSD.
Could you please add the Billion 8900AX-1600 to the "your upload modem" list. Or maybe drop the "2400" from the 8900AX-2400 as they are very similar and only one other user seems to have either at the moment.I've added it.
The clock on my Pi will change at 2am, exactly the same as when the clock on my computer will.
Guess i'll just have to keep my laptop running.
Just had an upload fail alert after 1 minute, email said no uploads since 08:34 today and was received at 08:35, my settings are for a notice after 15 minutes. Strange?
Stuart
Or just purchase a Raspberry Pi. :)
Thanks, just thought I would ask ;D
Maybe when MS have developed the Xbox platform further, there may be the capability to simply load any Windows app.
Guess i'll just have to keep my laptop running.
Cheers
netname: VODAFONE-FIXED-IP
descr: Fixed IP (Static)
descr: Vodafone Wholesale Broadband
descr: sqyn02-bng-01 London
role: Cable and Wireless Access Ltd
or
descr: Bulldog Communications
Is it feasible to add some kind of indication of if line has synced at 3,4 or 5db instead of 6db? It would be great to be able to monitor the rollout of this with Ginp again?Looking at the SNRM graph would seem to be the best way as there's no other data I'm aware of that would tell you :-\
Current Downstream Sync Rate is now 32806kbps @ 6.0db SNRM
Current Upstream Sync Rate is now 8961kbps @ 6.2db SNRM
as measured at the time of this email.
Looking at the SNRM graph would seem to be the best way as there's no other data I'm aware of that would tell you :-\
I've added the current upstream and downstream SNRM figures to the Resync mails that go out after a resync if that helps so don't need to look in MDWS.Code: [Select]Current Downstream Sync Rate is now 32806kbps @ 6.0db SNRM
Current Upstream Sync Rate is now 8961kbps @ 6.2db SNRM
I rather agree with Tony's last comment. The information is available by consulting the monitoring program directly.Never mind I mustn't be explaining very well. For example, if it is in the monitoring program how can I view your value surely it needs publishing on the MDWS site - is it already there and I am just not seeing the obvious?
I would use it and think it would be useful for other users anyone else agree?
Never mind I mustn't be explaining very well. For example, if it is in the monitoring program how can I view your value surely it needs publishing on the MDWS site - is it already there and I am just not seeing the obvious?
I just thought it would be a nice indication of the expected (hoped) rollout of 3db targets. If time does not permit enhancements that is understandable however.
You are missing something...Of course. I should never had doubted it. I'm ashamed to admit that I had not spotted the selector on the pop-up.
The lights on the graph are for 'Past 24 Hours' as it says. You have the pop-up set to 'Today Cumulative'.
MDWS works it out from various tones being present or not present.Cheers Tony.
I need to know your MDWS user name please and I'll change it later as it's static once set.
How do I recover/change my memorable phrase in mydslwebstats?
You're right, Stuart. DSLstats doesn't report a failure to upload, because at present the command which performs the upload doesn't return when it fails, so the program hangs. It's my fault, and I'm working on it.
Thanks Eric, that means either the server was in trouble or there was a network issue which stopped the upload.
This may have been covered before but I see the thread is 107 pages. Could someone explain the function and purpose of the LED panel (DLM simulator) on the left hand side of the graphs.
cheers
$ timedatectl
Local time: Mon 2017-03-27 16:11:51 UTC
Universal time: Mon 2017-03-27 16:11:51 UTC
RTC time: n/a
Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)
Network time on: yes
NTP synchronized: yes
RTC in local TZ: no
$ timedatectl list-timezones
Africa/Abidjan
Africa/Accra
Africa/Addis_Ababa
Africa/Algiers
Africa/Asmara
...
$ sudo timedatectl set-timezone Europe/London
acceptable level of ES/hour is
If you on the most leniant profile then averaged out its 120 ES per hour.
The middle profile is 60 per hour and the most stable profile is 30 per hour.
Bit of a long shot this but is there any way Tony might still have a copy of my Hlog from December 2016? I realise it's been over three months since I last uploaded so I will completely understand if it has been deleted by now.
I'm suddenly getting minute by minute alerts for duplicate file uploads. I'm using hg612 stats. Are they real? Nothing has changed at my end!Yes, they are very real else you wouldn't have been sent them...
Bit of a long shot this but is there any way Tony might still have a copy of my Hlog from December 2016? I realise it's been over three months since I last uploaded so I will completely understand if it has been deleted by now.Nope gone is gone.
If the data is there this should display it?
Data to show - hlog
Date options - historic
Date to view - easily goes back a year
Yes, they are very real else you wouldn't have been sent them...Typical - I would have stopped it earlier but I was still at work. Thanks for looking into it, I didn't want to bombard your server, but I couldn't see anything immediately wrong. I'll double check everything again at this end, and re-enable the uploads at some point.
After trawling through the database here I can tell you exactly what happened but not why.
You didn't upload anything between approx 25 March 18:00 through to approx 30th March 20:00. On the 25th your local clock was correct on GMT. When uploads resumed on the 30th, your local clock had jumped forwards 2 hours (rather than 1 hour after the clock change to BST on the 29th) but no idea why. It stayed like that until 17:49 this evening when it abruptly lost an hour (again no idea why) and was back on BST as it should be.
So that meant that for the next hour, you were uploading stats that you had already uploaded, hence the duplicate messages. They would have stopped at 18:49 had you not stopped uploading yourself at 18:47....
Please remember that MDWS is just recording the data you are uploading, it doesn't modify it in any way.
Hope you get there, Tony. It would be a real shame if MDSW was to disappear.
MDWS PROBLEMSNot had any erroneous alert emails myself & didn't know there were any issues with MDWS
Thanks for the mails from various users since Wednesday that there is an ongoing problem with emailed resync and other alerts/responses. In fact there are a lot more problems than that happening with quite a few internal routines not working at all for no obvious reason and I've spent a lot of time yesterday and into the small hours trying to fathom out what is wrong with no answers. This all started after a large batch of Window Updates were applied on the morning of the 26th mostly security fixes. There were no other changes.
I'm going to try various options at restring a working version but If that doesn't succeed then it's highly likely that will be the end of MDWS as a facility and it will not be resurrected. I'm already highly stressed out with other matters, and now this, and something has to go.
Apologies. I'll leave it running as is until I can see some hope of success or otherwise.
Partial results are valid but processing is incomplete: [client nn.nnn.nn.nnn:nnnnn] mod_fcgid: can't get data from http client
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator at admin@httpd.host to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Yes, that's exactly what I am doing as stated, could not see any other means of accessing on the mobile, results as reported on both phones.
Talking of the mobile web page my andriod samsung was fine but I keep getting this error now?
Perhaps a screen shot of what you are seeing - "just numbers" - would help?Possibly just the top part of the stats page....
I wonder what method RPi users adopt to transfer
So why is G.Inp inactive on these lines when it once was active and appeared to be effective ?
Is this just due to the ongoing compatability issues with the ECI cabinets, have not checked if all the G.Inp inactive lines are on ECI cabinets.
Has anyone noticed the past 24 hour errored seconds DS & US traffic lights don't match what is shown in the errored second graph, I should have 13 ES but it's only showing 2 ES and checked a few other MDWS users and it's the same issue.A quick glance says a Windows Task has failed some 10 hours ago and the data hasn't been updated properly for ES and SES so all traffic lights are incorrect. The graphs are correct as they source from elsewhere. This may take a while to sort out,
Indeed my US ES don't match unless I am misunderstanding the timings of each. eg when does the traffic light timing begin as the graph is midnight?If you hover over the lights it tells you - Last 24 hours.
If you hover over the lights it tells you - Last 24 hours.
So is it a rolling start time unlike the graphs?
According to kits dlm calculator it's 24 hours, 00.00-24.0000:00 to 23:59 inc
MDWS VECTORING SUPPORTWell the majority of current VDSL2 modems won't support G fast anyway,and it will be quite possibly years before most of us see it, let alone bother buying it. but for the have's is nice to know i suppose
There is now support for a line's Vectoring Status. BUT it is only available if you are using DSLStats and version 6.0.6 or greater. It is not supported by HG612 Modem Stats (currently but may never be).
There is a separate thread (http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,20199.0.html) for this feature with more details.
The Windows Task was resurrected at 23:00 last night and is running again. It means the 24 hours rolling figures will not be accurate until late this evening.
Well the majority of current VDSL2 modems won't support G fast anyway,and it will be quite possibly years before most of us see it, let alone bother buying it. but for the have's is nice to know i supposeEh? Vectoring on its own is perfectly well able to increase a line's speed by using noise cancelling technology that reduces interference from adjacent lines or other services. G.FAST doesn't come into it (yet).
@Tommy45 - are you aware that an increasing number of VDSL2 circuits have vectoring enabled, although I believe only on BDUK financed cabinets in order to achieve the required speed targets. So actually not anything to do with G.Fast.Yes, but their coverage is tiny compared to Openreach, those who are not on BDUK cabs will not ever see vectoring As Openreach would sooner sell a new product G fast instead , which still isn't true fibre
Has MWDS been down? I have a huge gap for today and I am testing a new router although my ISPs quality monitor says router has been up.the site was unreachable for me since sometime this morning back online now though
Apparently Kitz uses one (on ADSL), enthusiastically. On VDSL it may not be so good, as I might be discovering.Are you sure? Never seen her say that. She has a VMG8324-B10A on VDSL2.
Damn. I've updated my post above so as not to mislead. I've searched for what I thought I remembered, and failed to find what I hallucinated. I can't even find anybody being particularly enthusiastic about the VMG1312-B10D. Sorry again.
You're right of course. B10B is a thing. Nevertheless, there *is* such a thing as the VMG1312-B10D, which works well with mydslstats.
Apparently Kitz uses one (on ADSL), enthusiastically. (UPDATE: actually, that doesn't seem to be true now. Sorry.)
On VDSL it may not be so good, as I might be discovering.
For general information, it might be worth making an entry for it in your next non-beta release.
Apparently Kitz uses one (on ADSL), enthusiastically. (UPDATE: actually, that doesn't seem to be true now. Sorry.)
You're right of course. B10B is a thing. Nevertheless, there *is* such a thing as the VMG1312-B10D, which works well with mydslstats.
Apparently Kitz uses one (on ADSL), enthusiastically. (UPDATE: actually, that doesn't seem to be true now. Sorry.)
On VDSL it may not be so good, as I might be discovering.
For general information, it might be worth making an entry for it in your next non-beta release.
I've moved house and am now uploading data from a new line but things are all out of alignment.
My username (summat) is not showing on the dropdown list so I can't look at my own stats in detail, and in the all user stats (where I do exist) its saying I'm on an ECI cab; it USED to be ECI, but I'm now on a Huawei in new house.
Any chance my stats/record/etc could be reset?
graph data in the panes seems a little slower to load/delayed, been like that for a month iirc the site loads ok as do the pane templates what contain the data selectedTook a while to find this but now back to where it was ;) It was actually about 2.7s slower than normal.
I think the message you are seeing is 'You already have an existing registration on MDWS!' as the one you quote does not exists as a response. The existing user is you,
You cannot normally register another user name on a terminal with an existing registration. Using another terminal will be okay as long as it's never been used with MDWS.
I take it I will be able to complete the donation process for the new user name from my own terminal after it is registered, as usual, payment process to be completed by parents ?Yes, as long as you add in the username in the correct way...
Many thanks Tony, all sorted, submitted registration on my laptop which I had not used for previous reg's..
Donation also sorted on PayPal, no isues there.
The new ID won't be up and running just yet until I get time to install the new router and RPi, hopefully within the next few days.
You seem to have problem on the RPi you are using on the new line (ID: smpay-37) although it is uploading okay BUT - the clock is about 1 day and 21 hours SLOW which is causing some 'interesting' effects such as 0% uploads in past 24 hours and inability to identify the cab type (it thinks you are NOT in the UK). I suggest you correct that a.s.a.p. to get things back to normal.
You seem to have problem on the RPi you are using on the new line (ID: smpay-37) although it is uploading okay BUT - the clock is about 1 day and 21 hours SLOW which is causing some 'interesting' effects such as 0% uploads in past 24 hours and inability to identify the cab type (it thinks you are NOT in the UK). I suggest you correct that a.s.a.p. to get things back to normal.
That's because you haven't uploaded anything since the 19th August at 20:21 ....Well I checked the client a couple of days ago and it had been up for many days. I also verified the loging credentials with the test button and all reported well.
Well I checked the client a couple of days ago and it had been up for many days. I also verified the login credentials with the test button and all reported well.
I will check again tonight and report back.
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The percent box does not show on the small Original graphs which is what you are using at the moment despite being a Supporter. Change to one of the other larger sizes and it will re-appear...
Is the Upload data to MyDSLWebStats check box set (under the green text) in DSLStats?My mistake. I'd stupidily moved the executable out of the working directory so it couldn't find upload16.rpi.
I have put a trace on and there is nothing under your username being uploaded and then rejected for instance. Have you checked the DSLStats Event log for possible errors?
A screen grab from you would be helpful to see what is likely happening along with a username please.
The difference is what happened in the 24 hours before the outage.
With the server outage there was continuous connection before. It was out for about an hour so at just after 3am when it came back it had recorded one about hour of outage during the previous 24 hour period from 3am the previous day. At 4am it is still the same amount of outage during the 24 hours from 4am the previous day - so the same percentage. That will continue for about 23 hours until it is exactly 24 hours after the outage started when the percentage will climb reaching 100% exactly 24 hours after the outage ended.
With your experience with the RPi's not uploading at all during the previous 24 hours the uptime will start at 0% and climb back to 100% 24 hours after they started uploading again.
I've just been playing with zoom + once to increase everything including the table width, then zoom text only and zoom in some more and have managed to create a version of the basic edition screen that looks very, very similar to 22over7's screen shot.
I am getting bombarded with resync emails is there an issueYes, looks like your modem managed to upset everything...
My question was really about whether there any additional features are made available if you make a donation, apart from being able to store more data.
What would be really nice would be able to see a list of users and such parameters as their connection speed, and or SNR margin/attenuation.
My question was really about whether there any additional features are made available if you make a donation, apart from being able to store more data.
What would be really nice would be able to see a list of users and such parameters as their connection speed, and or SNR margin/attenuation.
£10 is hardly going to break the bank for what is a very useful facility even if you don't get anything extra, which you will.
I am curious as to how you have found the facility useful? All the information it displays about my own connection is also available directly from DSLStats.
I am curious as to how you have found the facility useful?
I find it (MSWS) useful, as someone who struggles to interpret raw modem stats, because of the graphical presentation, that exposes puzzling phenomena. It's an educational tool.
I'm curious as to what you mean by "traffic". It seems almost a philosophical question. How might that be conjured out of raw modem data, with no knowledge of higher-level protocols? It seems to that if that is a measurable quantity, it can only be something upstream routers could, er, guess at. I wonder (and would like to know, genuinely) how ISPs that impose traffic limits measure it.
Because the IP that was recorded in the database for you was from a Talk Talk block (from January I guess when you first registered, maybe it had been reallocated since). When you started uploading again yesterday after a very long time it updated to Entanet around 23:00 on a periodic check but you then resynched and it went to IDNet....
DSLstats works fine on Stretch without telnet
MDWS showing my connection as down from 03:09 today, no loss of sync or networking issues that I'm aware of, is it something your side? the HG612 Modem Stats app, seems to be working as normal
There was a problem - a number of background processes hadn't run since Sunday morning due to a server crash early in the morning. It automatically restarted at the time but not everything did successfully. It's running now but there were a lot of delayed resync and other alerts sent out at 18:40 in one go.
thanks for sorting :)BTW you are still on the list from ages ago to get alerts when a cab gets G.INP and it's ECI.... Not seen one yet.
MyDSLWebStats (MDWS) is closing down on Monday 12th March 2018
It is with some regret that I have to announce the closure of MyDSLWebstats. There are many reasons behind this but it's mostly due to the fact that it's taken over my life to the extent that it is about to become a victim of its own success as it's just proving too much for me to cope with. The server is also showing signs of overload recently with a rapidly increasing user base and would likely need a rewrite to get over this. I also have increasing difficulty coding/concentrating these days now I'm 73.
Another major problem is the looming implementation of GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) on May 25th. Since I am advised that even as an individual I hold sufficient data on everyone Registered as using MDWS to come under its umbrella, I just don't have the resources or effort needed at my age to get involved in meeting the many requirements it enforces or face the possible penalties it imposes so all that data has to go.
MDWS started as a pure experiment in 2014 with no idea if it was even feasible but it eventually was up and running with a lot of unpaid effort from all those involved (BaldEagle1, roseway, Ronski and tbailey2). We have since lost contact with one of the founding contributors (BaldEagle1) who wrote HG612 Modem Stats which now runs unsupported, which has put more pressure on roseway when changes are needed to DSLStats.
So on Monday 12th March 2018 MDWS will become unavailable. If anyone wants a refund of any recent donation(s) they made I can do so on request but please do so quickly. Please cancel any standing orders related to donations and you will need to stop uploading by the cessation date else you will just be wasting your bandwidth.
MDWS is no longer accepting Donations or new Registrations as of today.
Thanks for your support over the years and hope the facility was useful to you.