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[mr_chris]

It's quite a worry the way children are growing up with a lack of respect.

In a child's eyes, an adult has to earn their respect - now I don't mind that at all, lets face it some adults deserve no respect whatsoever. What I do mind is the way they now behave towards adults before they decide that the adult has 'passed the test'.

A lot of these kids are brought dragged up in a way that teaches them no morals, no basic compassion, no sensitivity, no sense, because they are left to their own devices, young parents will go out and leave them, we've got kids at the school whose parents have various harmful addictions - what fit state are they in to bring up a child and teach them right from wrong?

And don't get me started on primary school - this is not in any way aimed at primary school teachers, who I think do a fabulous job in the main. But, the ever-changing government led teaching ideas etc are basically turning primary schools into nurseries for up to 11 year olds. They can pretty much do what they want, whenever they want - and they learn this. So when they come to secondary school, and are suddenly expected to sit quietly whilst the teacher explains something, some of them simply don't know how to do that.

So unfortunately a combination of discipline (or lack thereof), added to the fact that I've noticed a sharp demise in my lifetime of respect for people's possessions - along with the fact that children do seem to have / exercise too many rights over the wrong people, is worrying on a few counts:

1. Scumbag kids are running riot more than ever before, and nobody can seemingly do anything about it. Unfortunately some kids, however much you do for them, have been programmed wrongly too early and would need drastic measures (think dog borstal for kids!) to get them back on track.

2. This has been happening for long enough that some of the same type of kids we're referring to, are now adults themselves! Scary.

3. Some people (not necessarily referring to people on the forum, just in general) are in danger of tarring all children with the same brush. This is also scary in two ways - one that most kids are still actually pretty normal, and two that 'borderline' kids who could go either way, are seeing this general attitude towards kids, and decide (using the very limited logic they have) well, they won't give me a chance anyway, so I might as well go and have some fun with me mates, "playing" in people's gardens.

All in all, we as a country do have a bit of a problem with some children, there just aren't the measures in place to deal with it effectively. Police would rather be out catching motorists driving 33mph, it's safer, easier and a lot more return for investment. But don't get me started....

[UncleUB]

And people wonder why some of us have absolutely no sympathy for this type of person animal.

UB,
Does your council run a A.S.B (Anti Social Behaviour) hot-line service where you can phone in and report these incidents?
If they do, give all your neighbours the phone number and ask them to phone at the slightest incident.
Only when they receive a volume of calls from the same area might they do anything about it.

Or just phone the police each time something "seems unnatural" they will soon do something when the quantity of calls that get logged start to mount up.
Where I live, the problem is that nearly all the other people can't be bothered, so nothing seems to happen.

Yes they do OF,I am in constant touch with the main man.The trouble is the ringleader is 9 years old so he can't be touched legally till he's 10(and he knows it).As I have mentioned before he is Sheffields biggest ASB case.The council can't evict them because it is a property owned by an housing association.
The thing they are trying to do is get him taken in to care but this is ongoing.
He has been running wild on our estate for over a year now.

[tickmike]

Do not forget there is always Crimestoppers.
You can contact Crimestoppers anonymously by calling 0800 555 111 or filling out  online Giving Information Form on there site :-
http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/giving-information/how-to-give-information

[jeffbb]

"Or just phone the police each time something "seems unnatural" they will soon do something"

Maybe if not too busy ! with  paperwork ,snooker ,mandatory  tea break  etc etc.to answer the phone .Mind you ,criticise the government or heckle a government minister that is different then plenty police available to raid your home or escort you out of meeting .

[oldfogy]

1. Scumbag kids are running riot more than ever before, and nobody can seemingly do anything about it. Unfortunately some kids, however much you do for them, have been programmed wrongly too early and would need drastic measures (think dog borstal for kids!) to get them back on track.

Lobotomy is one word that comes to mind.

UB.
Like I said earlier, it needs as many people as possible to keep complaining, "keeping a log of contact details will also help eventually". Plus, don't forget that the "Anonymous witness statement" does not mean that the people making complaints have to stand-up in court and be recognised in able to give evidence.

When there is constantly just one or two people you get dismissed as the moaning people from ......

Housing associations also have A.S.B policy's written into their tenants terms of references, so they can't use that as an excuse for not evicting people.
The problem is they don't want to use it because it means transferring the problem elsewhere.

And don't forget, the tenant of a property is responsible for the actions of their visitors and/or guests.

[guest]

Re : PCSOs

My advice is to simply refuse to cooperate with them.

What you need to remember is that in most cases PCSOs are people who have failed multiple times to gain entry to the police force. We have one useless article who to my certain knowledge failed the entry test eight times and was even turned down as a special constable as he was "temperamentally unsuited". Now if he couldn't even become a "free" copper then what possible use is he as a PCSO?

Oh and please do the same with any "community volunteers" - we have some of these muppets now - as they are simply there to appear on some spreadsheet which is solely intended to make the police look better. It may seem harsh but there's no point in these people, absolutely none whatsoever.

[UncleUB]

  @ Rizla.

Just to prove your point Rizla,I had a Police sargeant call at my home on Friday evening(just to re assure me that steps are being taken to sort the problem out) I said to him that the PCSO desk at the local nick is a waste of time and guess what,he agreed with me.
My own assestment of them is that they all strut about like Bruce Willis,yet no one on the streets takes any notice of them as they are not 'proper' coppers.