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[Alex Atkin UK]

I'm interested to see how prices compare to the likes of youfibre. Still paying £49 pcm for 2gb/2gb with fixed ip.

My understanding is it inherently can't be competitive due to OFCOM rules, specifically to allow alt-nets to be economically viable.

[dee.jay]

Yeah the OR and BTw checkers will show two different results because ultimately OR is offering 1.2 and 1.8 tiers to ISP's that want them but as of yet only EE is offering it over BTw.

I asked AA back in March and was told BTw were not selling the higher tiers yet, which smacks of anti competitiveness to me, but what do I know.

[j0hn]

My understanding is it inherently can't be competitive due to OFCOM rules, specifically to allow alt-nets to be economically viable.

Pretty much this.

There was a lot of push back on the Openreach Equinox 2 discount, which was just then lowering the wholesale price of their FTTP to providers.

Even that Equinox discount that was eventually approved keeps OR's wholesale price way above current Youfibre offerings.

It's very much regulated to keep the OR price high to allow others to compete.

[j0hn]

I asked AA back in March and was told BTw were not selling the higher tiers yet, which smacks of anti competitiveness to me, but what do I know.

Openreach weren't even selling it back in March, so BTw couldn't.
It was still in trial phase then with EE being the only provider to participate.

[dee.jay]

So, one assumes that this will change soon, then?

[Dwight]

So, one assumes that this will change soon, then?

News article on ISPreview about this. (27/04)
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/04/broadband-isps-prep-fttp-plans-for-openreachs-1-2gbps-and-1-8gbps-tiers.html