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[g3uiss]

I’m not sure it works the same as copper there is no separate “line” for want of a suitable word back to the head exchange so the redundancy may only be over a very short part of the circuit

[Chrysalis]

I also wouldnt bond unless you need the performance specifically, as you dealing with packet ordering and other complexities.

When you get FTTP weaver, it probably would be good enough to have 4G as a backup with a lower routing priority so it still kicks in if the FTTP goes down automatically.  That would be better resilience as its actually over different infrastructure.

[displaced]

Like others, I’ve signed up to an FTTP service that costs about the same as my existing VDSL.

Currently on Vodafone, getting 55/10 for £24

Will move to YouFibre, 500/500 for £25.

That’s a special offer though — that price would normally get 150/150.  I’ll see what happens after the 18-month contract’s up and see what’s available for a similar price then!

[Reformed]

Unfortunate that the LAN devices are using A&A public addresses. Issues with them are a point of failure that true provider diversity would mitigate.

Anyway the backhaul itself isn't that big a deal. BTW will be resilient in its own right, part of a ring. TalkTalk having anything there is dubious, having a resilient ring more so.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I was only reading last night someone in Florida who lost their FTTP twice, and it took out cell service both times too to his property.

It seems they have a problem with drunk drivers hitting poles and taking out the fibre and the theory was that the same poles also feed his local cell site, so both would fail.  If he went outside his property, cell service would resume, presumably as he moved into range of a different tower.

So yeah, I think mobile backup is always going to be more practical, as there is at least a chance it wont be the same fibre route.  Makes me a little sad as mobile backup, at least on pfSense, is kinda sketchy because packet loss can cause the whole firewall to restart, even if nothing is using it at the time.  The alternative being to disable gateway action, which then means if it fails for some reason it wont automatically try to re-establish the gateway, which kinda sucks too.

I assume the Firebricks are more intelligent somehow, seeing as Weaver has already had a solid experience with mobile backup.